>
>> You didn't mean a single word of it! You "apologized" to see if I
>>would become "compliant." When I didn't bow to your supreme will, you
>>are right back to the cheap shots and the LIES and accusations!
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>INSTEAD, you are "digging up dirt."
>>>>
>>>The only dirt I dig up is what you tried to bury.
???????
>>>
>>>What goes around COMES AROUND.
>>>
>>>You haven't seen anything yet, liar-johnnie.
^ ^ ^ I'll take THAT as a threat!
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: ELAINE: Why Are You So OBSESSED With Lying? We Are Told To
Seek TRUTH!
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:07:52 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:45:07 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:33:23 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:50:34 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:44:20 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>ARCHIVED!
>>>
>>>>On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:44:19 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>>>may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:20:36 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ELAINE:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why Are You So OBSESSED With Lying? We Are Told To Seek TRUTH!
>>>>>>
>>>>>I AM NOT A LIAR, JOHN.. BUT 'YOU' ARE. THAT'S A WELL KNOWN, PROVEN
>>>>
>>>> That's a lie!
>>>>
>>>> And you are a proven LIAR!
>>>
>>>Dream on, liar-johnnie, dream on.
>>
>> ^^ LIke I said, your "truce" was EXTREMELY short-lived, and the
>>"ugly names and ugly accusations " are right back.
>>
>>>If it makes you feel like you're a man, go ahead and falsely claim
>>
>> "feel like a man?" I don't need to put you in your place to "feel
>>like a man."
>>
>>>what a liar I supposedly am!
>>
>> You lied about apologizing.
>>
>>>
>>>Most of us have proven your lies,
>>
>> lie. Your false claims-- even if you repeat them 10 MILLION times--
>>will not become truth.
>>
>> Congratulations, Elaine! You didn't even make it 24 hours!
>>
>> The UGLY name-calling you just REPENTED has returned FULL FORCE.
>>
>> Just as I predicted!
>>
>>
>>and on hundreds of occasions. You
>>>haven't proven any so-called lie I've 'told' because I've told none.
>>
>> ^ ^ lie.
>>
>>>We ALL know that.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>FACT.
>>>>>Oops- sorry caps locked----- corrected.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Just wondering about that!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You should be reading your Bible every day, seeking Truth and
applying
>>>>>>it to your life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>I DO read the Bible every day, and I DO apply it to my own life. You
>>>>>have no way of knowing that, liar-johnnie.
>>>>>
>>>>>>INSTEAD, you are "digging up dirt."
>>>>>>
>>>>>The only dirt I dig up is what you tried to bury.
>>>>>
>>>>>What goes around COMES AROUND.
>>>>>
>>>>>You haven't seen anything yet, liar-johnnie.
>
>
>
>THREE TIMES, you have used the same post dated:
>
>===========================================================
>On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:44:19 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>===========================================================
>
>in your sick attempts to make yourself think you won anything.
???
I didn't repost any posts!
You "offered an olive branch." You "apologized" for the
name-calling, and you ADMITTED it was wrong, and hurtful, and NOT a
Good Christian witness.
I said "we'll see."
It wasn't an hour or two later that you BLATANTLY said that I was
lying about something. You just can't control yourself!
It wasn't 24 hours before you had called me
"liar"
"liar-johnnie"
and
"short bus"
What did I "win?"
Nothing.
I just said your "truce" was a LIE (it was). I just said your
"olive branch" was bull pucky. It was.
You offered a "truce" so long as I kept my mouth shut and let you
continue to lie and falsely accuse me...
just like always.
You LIED and said I tried to HURT you when I sent the complaint to
your employers.
I EXPLAINED that I wasn't trying to HURT you; I was trying to protect
those in your care!
You simply can't HANDLE THAT TRUTH, so you started the
"liar","Liar-johnnie" crap again.
You simply don't change.
Your life is about LYING.
>
>
>This is truly sick, John.
> Your temper outbursts are not only getting worse,
What tempter outbursts? I'm not the one who offered "the olive
branch." I'm not the one who tossed it in the mulcher when you were
CONFRONTED.
You HATE confrontation.
And when you're confronted with your sins, you pathologically fight
like a prize fighter!
"gloves off" time because I DARED to confront you!
And now you're right back to twisting REALITY and lying.
Queen Liar Elaine has returned!
"Welcome back!"
but your mental
>state is sinking even lower.
Actually, Queen Liar Elaine, I was just evaluated!
"never better."
>
>Go play with someone else's posts. You don't fool me.
smirk. You certainly don't fool me!
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>
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Subject: Re: To Tell The Truth
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:00:26 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:51:17 -0500, Rod <freelance74601@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:30:43 GMT, Rod <freelance74601@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:20:25 -0500, Rod <freelance74601@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Winter didn't make his accusations behind the shelter of an AOL
proxy
>>>>> and you do.
>>>>
>>>> Where is Winter, anyway - haven't seen him in here for weeks.
>>> He is on a the simple machines forum, I believe it is called
>>> the truth of the bible. He is the administrator for the forum.
>>>
>>> http://www.TheTruthOfTheBible.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Rod
>> Ah -- so he has his own moderated forum, now does he? I guess that way
>> he can always ensure that he will get the last word in!! :O)
>
> Thats what he has always wanted ! The last word !
Yep! In that respect, you and Elaine and Little Stevie Winter have a
lot in common. (requiring / DEMANDING "the last word.")
Y'see? I DID notice!
;-)
>
>
> Rod
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Subject: Re: To Tell The Truth
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:04:52 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:30:43 GMT, Rod <freelance74601@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:20:25 -0500, Rod <freelance74601@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Winter didn't make his accusations behind the shelter of an AOL
proxy
>>>> and you do.
>>>
>>>
>>> Where is Winter, anyway - haven't seen him in here for weeks.
>>
>> He is on a the simple machines forum, I believe it is called
>> the truth of the bible. He is the administrator for the forum.
>>
>> http://www.TheTruthOfTheBible.com
>>
>>
>> Rod
>Ah -- so he has his own moderated forum, now does he?
I guess that way
>he can always ensure that he will get the last word in!! :O)
You know all about that! "Getting the last word in!"
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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: To Tell The Truth
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:58:12 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:57:23 -0500, who me? <littleal@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:23:17 -0700, john w wrote:
>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:58:47 -0500, Rod <freelance74601@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>john w <johnw wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 05:40:28 -0500, Rod <freelance74601@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> Rev. BR Collins wrote:
>>>>>> On Aug 8, 12:07?pm, Rod <kc0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>> You also have claimed to be a scholar, a pastor and the Lord only
>>>knows what else!
>>>
>>> Produce or SHUT UP!
>>
>> You also have claimed to be a scholar,
>
>> Yes, I have. "scholar":
>
>& here we have the typical cherry picking of jw, the variety that allows
>only one definition & that one he can abuse to make himself look good.
>
>> Oxford:
>> " A person with great knowledge in a particular subject."
>
>Other than lying, that left you out.
>
>
>> Whether YOU or anyone else in here thinks so, I have a VAST
>> knowledge of the Bible, and can expound pretty extensively on a LONG
>> list of Bible topics, and passages.
>
>Easy to claim, by those standards I can claim to be a mathematician who
is
>greater than those that ever were here before me.
>You just tried to make acceptable standards apply to you. They don't.
Remind us all who you are again. What are your credentials again?
Anonymous coward!
>
>> That makes me a Bible scholar, according to Oxford. MANY who
>> actually KNOW me agree. My Bible knowledge is vast and impressive.
>
>For its lack maybe. Everything you display from that line indicates
rote
>learning or quote mining. No original thought, no knowledge of the
subject.
>But like your claims for the trinity being declared in the Hebrew
Bible.
>
>> a pastor
>
>> Pastor?
>
>Yes, pastor, not substitue.
>
>> Another word for "pastor" is "elder." Chronologically, I am an elder
>
>There were at one time standards that were applicable to those the
churches
>called Elder. You fail to meet those.
>Among them were honesty & integrity, characteristics noticeable by their
>absence in your daily efforts.
>An elder you are by insinuation only.
>
>> as I approach my 60th year, and I've been a Christian now for some 55
>> YEARS. By just about any accounting, I am an elder.
>
>Except those requirements for knowledge, favorable personal
>characteristics, honesty, personal integrity & those moral
characteristics
>associated with good people.
>
>> I was briefly an ordained associate pastor, so I have actually been
>
>Sounds like you were appointed.
>
>> an ordained pastor. I was also an ordained Sunday School teacher for
>> several years at a church that requires one to be appointed by the
>> other elders and then elected ("approved") by the congregation.
>
>So you were a bull ****er back then a well, assuming you aren't lying
per
>your usual.
>
>> So I have pastored at TWO churches.
>
>No, you substituted for the pastor of the church, if you are not lying.
>
>> and the Lord only
>>>knows what else!
>>
>> evangelist, teacher, preacher...
>
>& not one shred of evidence, just the claims of a known liar.
>
>> I think that's a good place to leave it.
>
>It should have been left in the dumpster, the one you got your steak
dinner
>from.
>
>>>
>>> Rod
>
>Don't know you Rod, but the boy has yet to provide evidence to back its
>mouth.
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Subject: Re: To Tell The Truth
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:47:17 -0500, Rod <freelance74601@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>Rev. BR Collins wrote:
>> On Aug 9, 4:01?pm, Rod <freelance74...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> Rev. BR Collins wrote:
>>>> On Aug 8, 7:41 pm, NOs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:33:05 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> You still don't get it, Elaine The Insane; you likely never will!
>>>>>> You are too insane with unresolved RAGE.
>>>>> Take your meds, John...
>>>> Why should that s***bag take any advice from a militant lesbian like
>>>> yourself, Merle?
>>>> You're big mouth is the reason you can't find a man, Merle. IF you
>>>> ever got a man, he'd have his hands full getting you lined out.
>>> You need your miserable trap slapped shut, why don't you just tell
>>> me where you are and I'll make that a reality.- -
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Now THAT would be a mistake of monumental pro****tion on your part,
>
>
> Says the lying cretin who continues hiding behind the the aol proxy
>server # 205.188.116.197 cache-dtc-ad03.proxy.aol.com
>
>Don't worry my pedophile friend, I'll be contacting AOL about you. If
>there is any way at all possible I'll get your name and location.
>
>You've felt like harassing and antagonizing people that don't want to
>participate in your destructive little games from the security of
>anonymity,
But... but... YOU are doing PRECISELY that, Rod!
I don't read headers, so I don't know how to find YOU!
I AM hoping you find your way to my door, however!
:-)
lets see how you deal with a dozen or so any citizens that
>are wanting to lynch you who are anonymous, eh ?
>
>Yea, you're such a brave one, you little internet coward! But then
>thats your MO isn't it ?? Strike out and hide, preferable women and
>children first, right pedophile s*** ??? Anyone at all for any reason
>seems to be fair game for you. The thing is, I'm not the only one on
>usenet that wants to get their hands on you, so when I do find out who
>you are I'm going to advertise it to those people.
>
>I promise you my little AOL faggot, I'll see to it personally that you
>end up in queer brothel in south america as some fags *** slave. A
>fitting end for someone that enjoys attacking women, and everyone else
>from hiding. Terrorists use the same tactics, so I can see you being
>just that.
>
>Getting rid of you won't be a favor, it will be a public SERVICE !
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> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Aug 9, 4:01?pm, Rod <freelance74...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Rev. BR Collins wrote:
>> > On Aug 8, 7:41 pm, NOs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:33:05 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >>> You still don't get it, Elaine The Insane; you likely never will!
>> >>> You are too insane with unresolved RAGE.
>> >> Take your meds, John...
>>
>> > Why should that s***bag take any advice from a militant lesbian like
>> > yourself, Merle?
>>
>> > You're big mouth is the reason you can't find a man, Merle. IF you
>> > ever got a man, he'd have his hands full getting you lined out.
>>
>> You need your miserable trap slapped shut, why don't you just tell
>> me where you are and I'll make that a reality.- -
>>
>>
>
>
>Now THAT would be a mistake of monumental pro****tion on your part,
>"Reprobate Rod". You aren't quite man enough to do that, little swine.
>
>
>But hey, it's nice to be physically threatened by a cowardly piece of
>slime like yourself, "Reprobat Rod".
chuckle.
Would it be ok, Rev, if I added a "smirk?"
I know you called me a s***bag, but can't we be buddies in our mutual
scorn for Rod the coward?
>
>The truth hurts, doesn't it "Reprobate Rod".
>
>
>Just to review, "Rod" is a cowardly liar that can't keep his lies
>straight. I will say that you are a "chip of the ole block". Winter
>taught you well.
>
>
>Have a BLESSED Day,
>
>
>Rev. BR Collins
>
>
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Subject: Re: To Tell The Truth
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>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>Rev. BR Collins wrote:
>> On Aug 8, 7:41?pm, NOs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:33:05 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> You still don't get it, Elaine The Insane; you likely never will!
>>>> ?You are too insane with unresolved RAGE.
>>> Take your meds, John...
>>
>> Why should that s***bag take any advice from a militant lesbian like
>> yourself, Merle?
>>
>> You're big mouth is the reason you can't find a man, Merle. IF you
>> ever got a man, he'd have his hands full getting you lined out.
>
>
>You need your miserable trap slapped shut, why don't you just tell
>me where you are and I'll make that a reality.
Wow! Rod, who accuses ME of being violent, is VERY violent!
I'm now probably the 5th person he's threatened with physical
violence in the past 2 weeks, and he's threatened ME several times.
I had one comment, and I say it again: "Bring it!"
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On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 21:29:00 -0700, "Rev. BR Collins"
<rev.brcollins@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Aug 8, 7:41?pm, NOs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:33:05 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >You still don't get it, Elaine The Insane; you likely never will!
>>
>> > ou are too insane with unresolved RAGE.
>>
>> Take your meds, John...
>
>Why should that s***bag take any advice from a militant lesbian like
>yourself, Merle?
I'm not a s***bag, and I bet I have more friends than you!
And as many faults as Elaine has (insanity being one), I have seen
and heard NO evidence from ANY source that she's a lesbian.
At LEAST when I say things about her that she doesn't like, I'm being
HONEST, and applying labels (like "liar") that fit!
You're just plain being RUDE!
>
>You're big mouth is the reason you can't find a man, Merle. IF you
>ever got a man, he'd have his hands full getting you lined out.
Elaine is like my ex-. My ex- would rather DIE and be buried than
admit she's wrong.
We TRIED couples counseling BRIEFLY. One session. I complained that
in 7 years, she had NEVER ONCE admitted she was wrong about ANYTHING.
She would rather get DIVORCED and be SINGLE than admit she was wrong
about ANYTHING, including the color of the paint on the wall. (just
like Elaine)
My wife (at the time) looked at the therapist and said with a straight
face, "If John had ever been right in 7 years, I'd have said so! He
was never right, so I never said he was!"
She would rather have been DIVORCED than admit ANY fault. Ever.
^ ^ ditto Elaine.
Elaine has this idea that if she ever admits she's wrong, the ground
is going to open up and swallow her.
And I've only seen her admit she's wrong some 5 times in 5 YEARS.
In my case, she always --- ALWAYS -- takes it back!
She admitted the name-calling was wrong a couple of days ago, and
within 24 HOURS, she was after my head with a razor again.!
(No, Elaine, I don't mean a LITERAL razor)
>
>
>
>Have a BLESSED Day,
>
>
>Rev. BR Collins
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>On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 17:33:05 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>You still don't get it, Elaine The Insane; you likely never will!
>>
>> You are too insane with unresolved RAGE.
>>
>>
>Take your meds, John...
Yep, the "olive branch" is LONG gone, and you're right back to your
RUDE, UGLY comments that you just got done apologizing for a couple of
DAYS ago.
Thankfully, it's all archived, so when you try to deny it, I have
black-and-white proof. And you've now done this some 6 times in 5
years!
You are definitely not playing with a full deck!
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 05:43:35 -0500, Ma'at <ma'at@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>On Wed, 08 Aug 2007 08:11:11 -0700, john w wrote:
>
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>> On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 06:41:18 -0500, Ma'at <ma'at@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 20:38:06 -0700, john w wrote:
>>>
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 19:06:30 -0700, Mark Fox
>>>> <thufir_dufas.hawat@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>On Aug 7, 8:51 pm, "Carl" <sai...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>snip
>
>>>> Actually, He didn't! The chief unbelievers of His day were called
>>>> "Pharisees." We see FREQUENT head-to-head, nose-to-nose
>>>> confrontations between Jesus and the Pharisee non-believers of His
>>>> day!
>>>
>>>They were competitors for the suckers money, theologically they were
the
>>>same.
>>
>> I see! So you openly admit that you're an anti-Christ!
>
>Really, where did I say that.? Not where did you imagine that, but where
>did I say that.
>
>> Thanks for being so honest about that!
>
>About what, my comments were about the theology of your missing messiah.
>That you don't know what that is, or how to find out, is your problem.
A
>problem you expect others to overlook, & make allowances for. i don't
>choose to do either.
Your comments that involve ridiculing Christ and Christianity...
"They [ Jesus and the Pharisees ] were competitors for the suckers
money, theologically they were the same..."
indicate that you are anti- Christ.
Not The Anti-Christ, but an anti- Christ.
>
>> You were saying. But wait, you don't do history,
>
>> ??
>
>A discipline just about required if you're going to pretend to be a
>scholar & know what you are talking about.
I'm glad you admitted that you're pretending.
And you are unworthy of any more of my time. Your 5 seconds to
impress me with your wit has passed.
>
>> or theology,
>
>> ???
>
>Again, a subject you pretend to kn w by calling dogma theology, &
expecting
>everyone to applaud you for your dismal failures when you tout out the
>evidence.
>
>> or
>>>apparently, much beyond Jack Chick & ICR tracts.
>
>> ??? I'm no fan of Jack Chick!
>
>Didn't say you were. I suspect he uses to many big words for you.
However,
>there are strong similarities in the basic approach to conversation
>involving your myth, a total lack of knowledge for starters.
>
>> And I have written to him, VERY critical of what he's doing. I got
>> no response. He-- like you -- isn't listening!
>
>Say what, he isn't listening to the world renown International author?
>Now, I see the garbage you pretend to be works of great though & deep
>understanding of your myth, & realise they are but the same intellectual
>effort as one exercise if one is excessively bothered by loose bowels,
>Which translated for you, is where am I going to **** next or now.
>
>>>> You must be reading a different Bible. (or you aren't reading it
at
>>>> all, and you are pretending and LYING.
>
>>>If all I read was Bible, it would be the only authorized one, the
Hebrew
>>>Bible.
>
>> What ARE you talking about!??
>
>Things you will never understand, & things you deny when they are
pointed
>out by others. As I said, you are ignorant about the founding's of your
>myth & why your personal wacky doo version of a messiah is impossible on
>several fronts.
>
>> Never mind!
>
>Why would anyone mind you? That is, anyone with a spine & a brain.
>
>> I probably don't want to know!
>
>Probably, but even sadder, you can not understand or accept, that way
lies
>the truth & you fear that for your house of cards will fail if you see &
>understand to much of it.
>
>> At least you have proven that YOU don't know what you're talking
>> about!
>
>No, I have shown that you don't know what I am talking about. Still, it
is
>you that doesn't know, & can not.
>
>> john w
>
>
>snip. the child could not respond to any of the prior, nor the snipped
>****tion. Hardly news but there it is.
>
>Ma'at
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Subject: Re: Just saw this! "Please Help Find Madeleine!" 946,000 pounds
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Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:39:42 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:19:48 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>news:d7mmb39a3a04dk1jf77o3j5jp94hu0oq3b@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:46:06 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:30:43 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>>><witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sadly, this tragedy will at the very least serve as reminder that you
>>>>should
>>>>NEVER leave your children alone in a hotel room (especially at such a
>>>>young
>>>>age) while you go across to street to have dinner.
>>>
>>>Is that how Madeleine was abducted? How foolish of the parents if they
>>>did that.
>>
>>
>> As a non-parent, I think your comment is a bit of a stretch, Elaine.
>>
>> Particularly when you are admitting UP FRONT to not knowing the
>> details.
>>
>> You seem quite ready to JUMP in and blame the parents, and you know
>> nothing about it!
>>
>> They were within a 2-minute walk (or less), they took a dinner break,
>> ON VACATION, and she was left with the governess/babysitter. They
>> weren't being irresponsible at all.
>
>Where the hell did you get your information?
I wasn't talking to you.
john w
They left their three kids
>alone while they went to a restaurant across the street. There was NO
baby
>sitter!
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Just saw this! "Please Help Find Madeleine!" 946,000 pounds
reward
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:38:16 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:16:35 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>news:i3mmb3dmmt6vd1itd5j6rltugh3md0rbpa@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:28:44 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>> <witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>news:ptnkb31vjoddel400canmi3obkr3sf9dr3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:55:32 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(RedFox)
wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>In article <pi3jb3h2rsjcscb2hb1496i3atj7aaveku@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
>>>>><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.findmadeleine.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>I'll join you in this, John
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for your efforts
>>>>>
>>>>>A very upsetting case
>>>>>
>>>>>Please everyone do look at the webpage
>>>>>
>>>>>Love
>>>>>
>>>>>Redfox
>>>>
>>>> make note, folks. This precious baby girl ( I believe she's 6 years
>>>> old) isn't even American!
>>>
>>>She's three and no, she's not.
>>
>> Why should that matter.
>>
>> It doesn't matter to me.
>>
>> My point was that she's not even American, and she's ALL OVER the
>> American news and special re****ts.
>
>Yeah, so what?
>
>>>
>>>I feel bad for the family too. Too bad that one simple mistake on
their
>>>part has probably doomed their daughter.
>>
>>
>> I don't know that them taking a 30-minute break and leaving her in
>> her bed was "a mistake."
>
>Well, duh, dumb****, obviously it WAS! Because, if they hadn't done it,
>they'd still have their child.
Well, dumb****, I see you're one of those psychopaths who believe that
-- no matter what happens--- you MUST BLAME SOMEONE!
You never heard "Stuff happens."
I had pathological in laws a few years ago. They were like you. No
matter what had happened, they were looking for someone to blame!
>
>> Parents DO have to take breaks every once in awhile.
>
>Gee, really? Wow, in the 9 years of raising my daughter, I must has
missed
>that.
That's YOUR problem.
john w
>
>BTW, that was sarcasm.
>
>However, leaving your YOUNG CHILDREN in a hotel room while you go across
the
>street to enjoy yourself is just plain stupid in my opinion.
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Help: If You Recall The Hymn "Give Me That Old Time
Religion... I am looking for "a lost verse"
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:33:24 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:16:20 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(RedFox) wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>In article <f9gb5b$td9$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, ujb <ujb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> > On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:34:11 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> the verse that starts with
>> >> " I was young, but I remember..."
>> >>
>> >> Please post it.
>> >> I have already done a web search (the best I can do)
>> >> I have stated MANY times that one of my talents is NOT
>> >> searching on the web.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> john w
>> >
>> >
>> > In the interim, I found this. You can listen to midi hymns for free:
>> >
>> > http://newsongonline.org/midi-hymns.html
>> >
>> > I also noticed Red Fox found a song with the "I was young but I
>> > remember" intro --- is that the one you were after?
>>
>> Poor stupid seems to be having another flashback from a dream,
>everything about him
>> is scrambled...
>
> I suspect that is why he thinks I'm mocking him and passses it of as a
bar song
If you could get over your HATE of me, I have now explained MY error
AND APOLOGIZED to you twice.
I am sorry two apologies aren't enough.
That's called unresolved RAGE on your part.
>
>It is further indication he is indeed scrambling memory
It's an indication that I didn't / don't expect any help from YOU,
and so I disregarded what you posted!
I apologize AGAIN, not that you are worthy.
With the LONG list of VERY ugly things you've said about ME (even in
this post) I don't feel like I owe you any apologies, but I have
apologized AGAIN.
>
>By the way he probably heard it riding the subway in Ephesus on the way
to
>a first century church in another part for Izmir. He later used it to
>disarm a Oneness Pentecostalist who leapt out shouting "Jesus loves you"
>
>I was young but I remember
>I was young but I remember
>I was young but I remember
>That Effysus ain't Izmir
>
>But I say its elementary
>That the church is still first century
>Though you're praying expernentially
>Its still found in Izmir.
>
>Oh my brain it's done got scrambled
>By the way that its been handled
>It's like its done got vandaled
>But its good enough for me
>
>If its good enough for me
>Then its good enough for you
>So although I'm posting poo
>Well its good enough for me
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Help: If You Recall The Hymn "Give Me That Old Time
Religion... I am looking for "a lost verse"
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:31:09 -0700
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On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:36:08 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:23:02 -0400, ujb <ujb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:34:11 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> the verse that starts with
>>>> " I was young, but I remember..."
>>>>
>>>> Please post it.
>>>> I have already done a web search (the best I can do)
>>>> I have stated MANY times that one of my talents is NOT
>>>> searching on the web.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> john w
>>>
>>>
>>> In the interim, I found this. You can listen to midi hymns for free:
>>>
>>> http://newsongonline.org/midi-hymns.html
>>>
>>> I also noticed Red Fox found a song with the "I was young but I
>>> remember" intro --- is that the one you were after?
>>
>>Poor stupid seems to be having another flashback from a dream,
everything about him
>>is scrambled...
>
>
>I've looked everywhere I can -----
YOu can stop bothering. I'm sure it sticks in your craw to help the
likes of me!
even posted a request for the
>lyrics in a Christian forum
So did I!
- still nothing.
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: fRe: Help: If You Recall The Hymn "Give Me That Old Time
Religion... I am looking for "a lost verse"
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:30:03 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 08:23:10 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(RedFox) wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>In article <deemb3p2ortve20vqht4s2t7d7127qejg5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:23:13 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>> >On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:34:11 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> the verse that starts with
>> >> " I was young, but I remember..."
>> >>
>> >> Please post it.
>> >> I have already done a web search (the best I can do)
>> >> I have stated MANY times that one of my talents is NOT
>> >> searching on the web.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> john w
>> >
>> >
>> >In the interim, I found this. You can listen to midi hymns for free:
>> >
>> >http://newsongonline.org/midi-hymns.html
>> >
>> >I also noticed Red Fox found a song with the "I was young but I
>> >remember" intro --- is that the one you were after?
>>
>> Ummm. No. If you didn't tune in, "Red Fox" was posting a BAR song
>> (teasing me). While I appreciate the SOH (sort of),
>>
>>
>
>You are so ****ing pathetic John and YES I am furious with you
>
>I actually spent half an hour searching and found the particular item on
a
>bluegrass Gospel site - the suggestion that it was a bar song I used to
>taunt you and tease you is a piece of filthy ingratitude on the part of
>one of the nastiest people I have ever encountered
Thanks! I feel the same way about you!
:-)
>
>You really are filth
Thanks! I feel the same way about you!
:-)
>
>I carried out the search because I do have a talent for finding things
>other people can't find
Evidently not.
(including Ephesus it seems :-) here I am teasing
>and admit it)
That wasn't funny, and I still plan on going back to that church and
do***enting it.
and in some areas I have closed access (not necessary in
>this case)
>
>Get over yourself John and don't be such a miserable filthy tempered
wanker
I already apologized if I falsely accused you.
If I may admit to my mistake, I SKIMMED your "song", to see if it
"rang any bells". When it didn't, I FROM MEMORY, guessed it was a bar
song, and that you had posted it to mock me.
If I was wrong (I evidently was), I apologize, which you make very
difficult with your UGLY comments.
Ugly comments I'd expect from an angry 10 year old!
>
>No one can help you as you are
I'm getting help.
Perhaps, one day, it will occur to YOU to get the help you keep
demanding others get!
You are very obviously not a happy person.
You could be happy.
>
>And you really NEED that help
>
>Go rot in hell!
>
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: I DO love you as a person, John Weatherly.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:25:13 -0700
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wrote:
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>On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:21:01 -0400, "Scout Lady"
><scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>><NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>news:gfskb3ti4ektdbeor95q2nna7c9fc1ra91@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> John:
>>>
>>> On thinking over the previous posts for some time now, it has become
>>> increasingly apparent to me that I was wrong in calling you all the
>>> names I have.
>>>
>>> I am truly sorry, and ask you forgiveness for having done so.
>>>
>>> I do not ask for any apologies on your part, but hope you'll do the
>>> right thing and simply START OVER, posting peaceably.
>>>
>>> What is this argument getting us, and where is it leading?
>>> What good does it do, and what kind of witness does it offer towards
>>> Christ?
>>>
>>> Allow me to be the first to offer the hand of fellow****p, and hope
all
>>> past arguments can be erased.
>>>
>>> Sincerely:
>>> Elaine
>>
>>Wow, this is really beautiful Elaine.
>>
>Thank you, Cathy. I meant it sincerely,
No, you didn't!
As I said the day you posted your "apology", it shouldn't rise or
fall depending on how *I* act! If you are going to "turn over a new
leaf" and decide to "be nice" and "stop the name calling", you should
do so, without ANY regard for how I might respond!
I didn't respond like you DEMANDED I respond, so you're right back
to the lying and name-calling,
as I predicted you would.
but unfortunately, John
>doesn't believe it.
And I was right.
NOTHING has changed, but the names of your insane "fan club"
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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: I DO love you as a person, John Weatherly.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:23:07 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:21:01 -0400, "Scout Lady"
<scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
><NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:gfskb3ti4ektdbeor95q2nna7c9fc1ra91@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> John:
>>
>> On thinking over the previous posts for some time now, it has become
>> increasingly apparent to me that I was wrong in calling you all the
>> names I have.
>>
>> I am truly sorry, and ask you forgiveness for having done so.
>>
>> I do not ask for any apologies on your part, but hope you'll do the
>> right thing and simply START OVER, posting peaceably.
>>
>> What is this argument getting us, and where is it leading?
>> What good does it do, and what kind of witness does it offer towards
>> Christ?
>>
>> Allow me to be the first to offer the hand of fellow****p, and hope all
>> past arguments can be erased.
>>
>> Sincerely:
>> Elaine
>
>Wow, this is really beautiful Elaine.
It would seem so. But -- like so many times before -- it didn't last
but a few hours.
She's right back to the name-calling, and you're right back to being
in her fan club!
>
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: I DO love you as a person, John Weatherly.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:21:39 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:21:57 -0400, John Henry <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:05:59 -0400, John Henry <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>> Thank you for your concern, John H - but Iwould like to keep trying
>>>> if possible, and if worse comes to worst, then I'll simply ignore.
>>> Is it better or worse?
>>
>>
>> I see this morning he is much worse.
>> He's trying to frame me as a liar by using a post dated the day
>> BEFORE I posted the apology.
>> He uses that as his excuse to falsely accuse me of 'breaking the
>> truce' as he calls it.
>
>Looks like a pattern has developed here, does it not?
This post represents what has come to be called "The inmates
attempting to run the asylum."
John H, you're as insane as Insane Elaine.
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: I DO love you as a person, John Weatherly.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:20:19 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:59:19 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:26:14 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:15:21 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:07:27 -0400, ujb <ujb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:55:50 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That would be like Niagara Falls freezing!
>>>>>
>>>>> I HAVE seen Niagara Falls freeze, John. It was bitterly cold
winter,
>>>>> and the falls were frozen, despite the water trying to tumble down.
>>>>> Again, I tell the truth.
>>>>
>>>>true, it was March 29th 1848, I too remember it! 8-)
>>>
>>>No, Ujie - it was in the early fifties. It was bitterly cold winter,
>>>and the Falls DID freeze.
>>> I wish I had a picture of it.
>>>But it was so strange, because the colored floodlights behind the
>>>falls kept on changing color - and the ice even looked beautiful
>>>then.
>>>I'm not lying.
>>
>> Mark your calendars!
>>
>> "Elaine isn't lying."
>>
>> (You've called me a liar half-a-dozen times since your "apology"
>>yesterday.
>>
>> If you're going to call me a liar, I'm going to point out that you're
>>lying!
>
>
>That's because YOU ARE LYING, John.
I'm lying about what?
Nothing.
> You've falsely accused me numerous times since I posted that apology,
>which WAS sincere.
I pointed out that you called me a liar IMMEDIATELY after you
apologized for calling me a liar.
I pointed out that as I pointed out your bizarre behavior (which you
were doing as you posted, you called me a liar again.
ALL I was doing was pointing to your behavior. AGAIN, you REFUSE to
confess OR repent.
At least I have to now THANK you very much again for DO***ENTING YET
AGAIN what you've been doing for 5 YEARS.
> My conscience is clear,
What "conscience?"
but I KNOW yours is not.
>Have your fun, John. You're the only child playing.
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: I DO love you as a person, John Weatherly.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:17:52 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:04:20 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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>On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:03:13 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
><witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>><NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>news:t6kmb3pp52m6c7genai48atuduhqaqmp23@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 13:09:17 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>>> <witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>John W said:
>>>>> I see YOU're back to your usual self, being a total asshole!
>>>>
>>>>Oh phooey. And here I thought you'd turned over a new leaf. Oh well
:(
>>>>--
>>>
>>> I Actually think he's angry with me for simply apologizing for my
part
>>> in the name-calling, Robyn.
>>>
>>> Methinks what Kelly and John H said was right on.... ignoring him as
>>> much as possible is probably the best thing to do.
>>
>>Absolutely. Shall we all give it a shot? ;)
>
>
>Sounds like a good idea, Robyn. I did answer him back several times
>this morning correcting his lies
You didn't "correct any lies" that I told, since all I did was point
out that you have returned to your bizarre behavior that you just got
done "apologizing" for.
on using a post previous to my
>apology
I see that you AGAIN admit that you apologized a few days ago.
So much for your apology.
four separate times in his attempt to brand me as a liar....
You are a liar. You said you weren't going to call me ugly names
anymore. That that had been wrong. And since then, you've lied and
called me a liar at LEAST a dozen times, merely because I pointed out
your LIES.
>It didn't work. He'll no doubt be enraged all the more for my pointing
>that out, but at this point, I don't care.I will not permit him to
>brand me as a liar when I ain't!!!
>
> But ignoring him does sound like an excellent plan.
>
>If he's ignored enough, no doubt he'll move on and try out another
>newsgroup where he can get the attention he craves.
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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: I DO love you as a person, John Weatherly.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:15:29 -0700
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wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
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>On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 13:09:17 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
><witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>John W said:
>>> I see YOU're back to your usual self, being a total asshole!
>>
>>Oh phooey. And here I thought you'd turned over a new leaf. Oh well :
(
>>--
>
>I Actually think he's angry with me for simply apologizing for my part
>in the name-calling, Robyn.
I'm bothered that your "apology" was only good for a few hours, and
you are now right back to doing it.
You want me to "behave", but YOU refuse to.
>
>Methinks what Kelly and John H said was right on.... ignoring him as
>much as possible is probably the best thing to do.
When do you plan to start?
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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: I DO love you as a person, John Weatherly.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:14:16 -0700
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wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:23:33 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Since YOU don't practice the Golden Rule, I don't practice it towards
>>you.
>
>
>John, that is a very CHILDISH attitude to take.
smirk. So I'm being childish, but YOU aren't?
lol
"right!"
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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: I DO love you as a person, John Weatherly.
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:05:01 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:06:26 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
><witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>news:rjkmb39b694v8l5p2gm1q3n59fpam68t6h@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>snip
>>> In YOUR opinion. And I remind you, one place where FREE speech is
>>> still permitted is Usenet.
>>>
>>> You don't control Usenet, and you have called me another ugly name.
>>
>>So what? Free speech and all that.
>
>
>I'd love to know 'what other ugly name' I supposedly called him!
?????
You have called me SEVERAL ugly names, and you don't remember?
"liar". "liar-johnnie". "short bus."
You're right back to ugly, childish, mean behavior that you just
apologized for 2 days ago!
So much for your "apology." Where is your "apology" now?
What happened to that "olive branch?"
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: I DO love you as a person, John Weatherly.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:11:27 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:06:26 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>news:rjkmb39b694v8l5p2gm1q3n59fpam68t6h@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>snip
>> In YOUR opinion. And I remind you, one place where FREE speech is
>> still permitted is Usenet.
>>
>> You don't control Usenet, and you have called me another ugly name.
>
>So what?
"So what?" She has just APOLOGIZED for calling me a list of ugly,
untrue, unnecessary names.
That's "So what."
She apologized (which was a LIE; she wasn't sorry), and then she
started doing it again, within a few hours.
Nor do I consider you any sort of "moral authority."
Free speech and all that.
Nor do I consider you any sort of "moral authority."
And there are limits to "freedom of speech."
What she is doing is called "libel."
She is saying things that aren't true, and things she can't prove.
That is called "libel."
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: I DO love you as a person, John Weatherly.
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:54:33 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:57:01 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:37:39 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(RedFox) wrote:
>
>>In article <j84nb3tfooa659noeg8uias2k5u7md34l5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 07:58:03 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(RedFox)
wrote:
>>>
>>> >In article <a4dmb3ho341e4tfeppn3cep1frhql5o7d5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
>>> ><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> I am believing that you are sincere this time, and that if I
don't
>>> >> react with 1,000 % enthusiasm, you will not revert.
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >See Elaine
>>> >
>>> >here it is
>>> >
>>> >If you have done psych nursing you can see what has happened here
>>> >
>>> >All you have done is opened the floodgates for John to say it is
about
>>> >other peoples behaviour and that there is a risk of THEM reverting
>>> >
>>> >Come on - remember your training
>>> >
>>> >You know how the game is played
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes I do, Red Fox - but it's no game.
>>>
>>> I've seen many patients in the situation he says he has been in; but
>>> the ONLY way they could possibly receive professional help was to be
>>> in daily in-house therapy sessions.
>>
>>Absolutely
>>
>>And in getting someone to accept this it all too often p***** through a
>>moment of violence
>>
>>I have only been involved peripherally in such matters but I have had a
>>glass smashed against my head and an attempt to batter me with a chair.
I
>>have had to hold people back from violent assaults - it is dangerous
>>getting people into help sometimes which is whay most christians would
>>rather pray!
>>
>> I have known people who daily have been assaulted by their "clients"
and
>>been hospitalised
>>
>>No it is NOT a joke
>>
>>And the longer this is left!
>
>
>I understand completely what you're saying, yes. I see the anger in
>John increasing as he tries in vain to use a post written on the 7th
>of August to falsely accuse me of 'reverting back to name calling'.
>If he would care to observe, I made the apology on the evening of the
>8th of August.
Oh, big deal! I got the date off by one day! The point IS that you
"apologized" for your name-calling, and then within LESS than 24
hours, you were right back to the name-calling.
You didn't "turn over a new leaf." And the "olive branch" is LONG
gone!
but regardless, he tries to insist how 'predictable I
>am' and how 'he was right'..........
You are predictable, and I WAS right.
>The word salads are on the rise with him, and I can see the anger and
>increased frustration by his posts.
???? Liar!
You are AGAIN projecting.
>I really do believe he's a walking time bomb waiting to explode on the
>first unsuspecting person.
??? You have ALREADY exploded, and you're right back to your lies!
I'm not "ready to explode!" You already exploded!
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: If You Recall The Hymn "Give Me That Old Time Religion... I
am looking for "a lost verse"
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:51:56 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 10:25:29 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:48:33 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
><witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>><NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>news:kdkmb3ts93bod54mmgikq5e3laqtm3jpje@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:39:14 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>>> <witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Old Time Religion
>>>>Chorus:
>>>>Give me that old time religion (3x)
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>We will pray to Aphrodite
>>>>Even tho' she's rather flighty
>>>>And they say she wears no nightie
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>We will pray with those Egyptians
>>>>Build pyramids to put our crypts in
>>>>Cover subways with inscriptions
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>O-old Odin we will follow
>>>>And in fighting we will wallow
>>>>Til we wind up in Valhalla
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Let me follow dear old Buddha
>>>>For there is nobody cuter
>>>>He comes in plaster, wood or pewter
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>We will pray with Zarathustra
>>>>Pray just like we useta
>>>>I'm a Zarathustra booster
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>We will pray with those old Druids
>>>>They drink fermented fluids
>>>>Waltzing ****d thru the woo-ids
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hare Krishna gets a laugh on
>>>>When he sees me dressed in saffron
>>>>With my hair that's only half on
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'll arise at early morning
>>>>When the sun gives me the warning
>>>>That the solar age is dawning
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>
>>>
>>> Where the heck did you find this, Robyn!!!!!!!! ? heheh!
>>
>>From the web ;)
>
>
>Priceless! LOL!
Sort of! I wouldn't give a penny for it!
So much for your "olive branch."
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: If You Recall The Hymn "Give Me That Old Time Religion... I
am looking for "a lost verse"
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:51:17 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 09:48:19 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>news:9ilmb3d37q0mg6hmvsldh8iu33917cls5d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:41:32 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>On Thu, 9 Aug 2007 09:39:14 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>>><witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Old Time Religion
>>>>Chorus:
>>>>Give me that old time religion (3x)
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>We will pray to Aphrodite
>>>>Even tho' she's rather flighty
>>>>And they say she wears no nightie
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>We will pray with those Egyptians
>>>>Build pyramids to put our crypts in
>>>>Cover subways with inscriptions
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>O-old Odin we will follow
>>>>And in fighting we will wallow
>>>>Til we wind up in Valhalla
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Let me follow dear old Buddha
>>>>For there is nobody cuter
>>>>He comes in plaster, wood or pewter
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>We will pray with Zarathustra
>>>>Pray just like we useta
>>>>I'm a Zarathustra booster
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>We will pray with those old Druids
>>>>They drink fermented fluids
>>>>Waltzing ****d thru the woo-ids
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hare Krishna gets a laugh on
>>>>When he sees me dressed in saffron
>>>>With my hair that's only half on
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I'll arise at early morning
>>>>When the sun gives me the warning
>>>>That the solar age is dawning
>>>>And that's good enough for me
>>>
>>>
>>>Where the heck did you find this, Robyn!!!!!!!! ? heheh!
>>
>> Yeah! I asked for help; Bob chose to turn my request into a twisted
>> joke.
>
>Oh, for goodness sakes.
>
><flips coin> Here's a nickel. Go guy yourself a sense of humor.
You're
>sadly in need of one.
Well, what I think you may have missed, Bob, is that--- typically--
when one offers a good-natured joke (you didn't-- it WASN'T
good-natured)
One offers a good-natured quip, and then one offers help.
You never got around to offering help!
You just made a joke about it.
I call that your typical meanness, which YOU and your poor family
must live with.
You are a hater, pure and simple.
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: If You Recall The Hymn "Give Me That Old Time Religion... I
am looking for "a lost verse"
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 11:47:47 -0700
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On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:20:19 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(RedFox) wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>In article <f9gb5b$td9$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, ujb <ujb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> > On Thu, 09 Aug 2007 06:34:11 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> the verse that starts with
>> >> " I was young, but I remember..."
>> >>
>> >> Please post it.
>> >> I have already done a web search (the best I can do)
>> >> I have stated MANY times that one of my talents is NOT
>> >> searching on the web.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> john w
>> >
>> >
>> > In the interim, I found this. You can listen to midi hymns for free:
>> >
>> > http://newsongonline.org/midi-hymns.html
>> >
>> > I also noticed Red Fox found a song with the "I was young but I
>> > remember" intro --- is that the one you were after?
>>
>> Poor stupid seems to be having another flashback from a dream,
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