>>THAT, or the President is FULLY authorized to take command of the
Guard!
>
>Again you are in error, there must be legal grounds where the civil
>authority is incapable of enforcing the law or protecting the
population.
>He may request troops to be activated, but those troops are under the
>direct command of the state governor until such time as Congress as we
are
>a state of war. At that time, they automatically convert to federal
>control instead of state control. The legal concept is contained in
>[watch me screw up the spelling] posse commitus, which forbids the
>military from arbitrarily being involved in civil affairs.
>
>>All he has to do is send in a FEDERAL (US Army) commander who OUTRANKS
>>the local commander. IF the Guard commander is an LC, the President can
>>send in a "Bird Col" to relieve him.
>
>Again, you are in error which is really nothing new.
>
>>See how that works?
>
>Apparently you do not, yet that will not stop you from pretending to
know
>what you are talking about as your posting history verifies beyond
>reasonable doubt.
>
>>I knew you would!
>
>And everyone knew you would say that due to your over inflated ego due
to
>your an inability to understand that you do not know as much as you
>think..
>
>>While YOu are preaching "crackpot theory", I've LIVED it, pal!
>
>Actually, you are still living it.
>
>
>>>> IF we have an emergency in Tokyo, and our nearest friendlies are in
>>>> Tampa, Florida, "we're screwed."
>>>
>>>Why would "we" have an emergency in Tokyo?
>
>>Do you understand (obviously, you do not) EXAMPLES?
>
>Do you understand that examples refer to situations that are feasible or
>realistic and not hypothetical? Of course you did not.
>
>> then, didn't we send the Marines when we had that tsunami a couple
>>of years back ? (we did send the Marines)
>
>We, in use in presidential and congressional powers now?
>
>>Why on EARTH didn't we send US Marines and the Airborne to LEBANON to
>>rescue some 20,000 US CITIZENS stranded in Lebanon when war broke out a
>>couple of weeks ago?
>
>>(we did send the Marines and the Airborne)
>
>I didn't send anybody so you are either pregnant or assuming royal airs
>they do not have the authority for which for you, is par for the course.
>
>>Were you sleeping?
>
>actually, I have been living my life, an activity you are not famous for
>doing on your own.
>
>>Or just suffering HUA disorder?
>
>Are you trying to insinuate that others are as mentally incapacitated as
>yourself or that they have opti-rectitus as bad as you do do?
>
>>In fact, when the Marines got to Lebanon a couple of weeks ago, and
they
>>began evacuating THOUSANDS of Americans and foreign nationals ( you
mean
>>we rescued NON-Americans??? OhMYGod!!)
>
>It's call a humanitarian effort, and is not unique to the United States
>alone.
>
>>One Marine commander was INTERVIEWED (fancy THAT!) by the media. He was
>>asked how he felt to have COMBAT troops in NON-combat roles?
>
>>He said, 'we train for both, and I believe I can speak for my team when
I
>>say, we'd MUCH rather be RESCUING people than SHOOTING at them!"
>
>> If there is a tsumani in
>>>Tokyo, it's the repsonbility of the Japanese government to deal with
>>>clean up,
>
>>Yep! And one thing the Japanese and many other nations do is,"Be sure
>>that emergency first call you make for help is to the White House!"
>
>In reality, that is not what Japan does, it does accept international
aid
>during times of emergency but it does not request it. Japan has a
history
>of trying to take care of itself as best it can before asking for
>assistance. Even the criminal element gets involved with soup lines
such
>as that as was witnessed during the Kyoto earthquake.
>
>Snip remainder of tail chasing & self congratulatory prose.
>
>which wannabe this time jw, the failure who has decided that he is now
the
>international relation****p expert, as well as knowing all about the
usages
>of the United States military in spite of having been booted out of
them?
>
>walksalone who is never surprised at the audacity of jw when he has the
>chance to spout his nonsense, never mind whether he knows anything about
>the subject are not because he is used to faking it by now.
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:22:12 -0500,
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author
>In <agljd2ln6efb5ebdgikrrja9cp9fq530km@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, on 08/09/06
> at 05:52 AM, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> in a hurry to display his
>ignorance of historical activities that occurred during his childhood
and
>pretend that as an adult he did what he cannot have done according to
his
>deceptions also known as lies, left the following evidence behind.
>Follow-up will be sent to the trolls one group as well as excess
verbiage
>[175 lines to say nothing?] removed.
>
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>Subject: Re: Cease Fire
>Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 05:52:44 -0700
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>>x-no-archive: yes
>>On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 05:16:41 GMT, "Daniel S. Vieira"
>><email-in-sig@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this article
>>may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the author
>>>john w <johnw wrote:
>>>
>>> > By planning ahead, when we need a strike force of say 10,000 fully
>>>> armed forces with equipment in Atlanta, Georgia, we don't have to
wait
>>>> until they can be ****pped in from Las Vegas, Nevada.
>>>
>>>A "strike force" in Atlanta to do...what, exactly?
>
>>I was giving the LOSEST of examples.
>
>> Shoot Americans?
>>>There is something called the "National Guard" that is deployed when
>>>domestic emergencies happen, and they are to be under local law
>>>enforcement agencies.
>
>>I am fully aware of that. I served with National Guard when I went
>
>& what is the address of this National Guard, is it male or female. Or
>you were you referring to a member of one state National Guard, referred
>to the National Guard. With a master wordsmith such as yourself, it is
>hard to figure out if you know what you were talking about. It would
help
>if you knew yourself.
As I have just explained to someone else, crawls, I am not up to this
at this time.
I have a serious heart ailment, which I have mentioned several times
(A-Fib), and it kicked in and kicked my butt Sunday evening.
I nearly died. (not that you care)
But it has left me limp and mentally foggy.
I will return to the fray at some time in the future when I can give
reasonable responses.
I have read over my posts the last 2 days and it's gibberish.
apologies.
>
>
>>through boot camp and advanced training as a jet aircraft mechanic.
>
>You claimed to have been US Air Force, only two branches of the services
>have a boot camp. The Navy & the USMC. You also have claimed to work on
>environmental control systems which is not the same thing as a jet
>aircraft mechanic. Or are you saying you were so incompetent in your
>primary skill group, that the Air Force had to move you to a less
>demanding skill group in order to protect their aircraft & pilots.
>
>>>What in the world are you talking about?
>
>>What in the WORLD am I talking about?
>
>
>People have been asking that says about the year 2000.
>
>>hehehe.
>
>>Let's see, which state was it where the GOVERNOR, one George Wallace,
had
>>the National Guard at his disposal, but REFUSED to obey a LAWFUL U S
>>Supreme Court order? To integrate?
>
>You're thinking of Alabama were indeed he was not happy about the order.
>But as usual, in your confusion you have conflated Mississippi with
>Alabama, where President Eisenhower ordered in the National Guard of
>Mississippi to permit Negroes to attend the university there. Of
course,
>that's what you really meant but you did not how to say it as usual.
>
>>When the GOVERNOR breaks the law (I guess that's before YOUR time; it's
>>not before MY time)
>
>According to you, & your posting history, very little is before your
time,
>as long as it is obscure enough, you'll pretend to have knowledge about.
>
>>Then the President must send in FEDERAL troops (US Army, Airborne
>>Rangers) to enforce FEDERAL LAWs (a U S Supreme Court decision
ordering
>>integration would be one example)
>
>No, the president is not given that privilege, and in fact he is
>restricted from using federal troops short of a declaration of the state
>of emergency by the state governor. It's a legal concept that is beyond
>your ability so don't worry about it.
>
>>THAT, or the President is FULLY authorized to take command of the
Guard!
>
>Again you are in error, there must be legal grounds where the civil
>authority is incapable of enforcing the law or protecting the
population.
>He may request troops to be activated, but those troops are under the
>direct command of the state governor until such time as Congress as we
are
>a state of war. At that time, they automatically convert to federal
>control instead of state control. The legal concept is contained in
>[watch me screw up the spelling] posse commitus, which forbids the
>military from arbitrarily being involved in civil affairs.
>
>>All he has to do is send in a FEDERAL (US Army) commander who OUTRANKS
>>the local commander. IF the Guard commander is an LC, the President can
>>send in a "Bird Col" to relieve him.
>
>Again, you are in error which is really nothing new.
>
>>See how that works?
>
>Apparently you do not, yet that will not stop you from pretending to
know
>what you are talking about as your posting history verifies beyond
>reasonable doubt.
>
>>I knew you would!
>
>And everyone knew you would say that due to your over inflated ego due
to
>your an inability to understand that you do not know as much as you
>think..
>
>>While YOu are preaching "crackpot theory", I've LIVED it, pal!
>
>Actually, you are still living it.
>
>
>>>> IF we have an emergency in Tokyo, and our nearest friendlies are in
>>>> Tampa, Florida, "we're screwed."
>>>
>>>Why would "we" have an emergency in Tokyo?
>
>>Do you understand (obviously, you do not) EXAMPLES?
>
>Do you understand that examples refer to situations that are feasible or
>realistic and not hypothetical? Of course you did not.
>
>> then, didn't we send the Marines when we had that tsunami a couple
>>of years back ? (we did send the Marines)
>
>We, in use in presidential and congressional powers now?
>
>>Why on EARTH didn't we send US Marines and the Airborne to LEBANON to
>>rescue some 20,000 US CITIZENS stranded in Lebanon when war broke out a
>>couple of weeks ago?
>
>>(we did send the Marines and the Airborne)
>
>I didn't send anybody so you are either pregnant or assuming royal airs
>they do not have the authority for which for you, is par for the course.
>
>>Were you sleeping?
>
>actually, I have been living my life, an activity you are not famous for
>doing on your own.
>
>>Or just suffering HUA disorder?
>
>Are you trying to insinuate that others are as mentally incapacitated as
>yourself or that they have opti-rectitus as bad as you do do?
>
>>In fact, when the Marines got to Lebanon a couple of weeks ago, and
they
>>began evacuating THOUSANDS of Americans and foreign nationals ( you
mean
>>we rescued NON-Americans??? OhMYGod!!)
>
>It's call a humanitarian effort, and is not unique to the United States
>alone.
>
>>One Marine commander was INTERVIEWED (fancy THAT!) by the media. He was
>>asked how he felt to have COMBAT troops in NON-combat roles?
>
>>He said, 'we train for both, and I believe I can speak for my team when
I
>>say, we'd MUCH rather be RESCUING people than SHOOTING at them!"
>
>> If there is a tsumani in
>>>Tokyo, it's the repsonbility of the Japanese government to deal with
>>>clean up,
>
>>Yep! And one thing the Japanese and many other nations do is,"Be sure
>>that emergency first call you make for help is to the White House!"
>
>In reality, that is not what Japan does, it does accept international
aid
>during times of emergency but it does not request it. Japan has a
history
>of trying to take care of itself as best it can before asking for
>assistance. Even the criminal element gets involved with soup lines
such
>as that as was witnessed during the Kyoto earthquake.
>
>Snip remainder of tail chasing & self congratulatory prose.
>
>which wannabe this time jw, the failure who has decided that he is now
the
>international relation****p expert, as well as knowing all about the
usages
>of the United States military in spite of having been booted out of
them?
>
>walksalone who is never surprised at the audacity of jw when he has the
>chance to spout his nonsense, never mind whether he knows anything about
>the subject are not because he is used to faking it by now.
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Subject: Re: Cease Fire
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 23:41:42 -0700
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:17:57 -0400, mikeburt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Michael)
wrote:
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article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>In article <qtgkd21uic8r3n0imf2r6knmvj8lnevicr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:59:03 -0400, mikeburt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Michael)
>> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>> >In article <5h3id2h9q8oqnv2d41uqhb78q4hqk48lf7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
>> ><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >
>> >> x-no-archive: yes
>> >> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:15:54 -0400, mikeburt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Michael)
>> >> wrote:
>> >> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> >> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the
>> >> author
>> >> >In article <b1nhd2d78f8s85jb3pvai558ogc6ncdt2s@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
>> >> ><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> x-no-archive: yes
>> >> >> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:16:36 GMT, "Daniel S. Vieira"
>> >> >> <email-in-sig@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> >> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> >> >> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the
>> >> >> author
>> >> >> >Michael wrote:
>> >> >> >> With everyone so focused on cease fires and troop
withdrawals,
>where are
>> >> >> >> the folks to advocate:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> 1) a cease fire in Iraq to stop all of the terrorism
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Actually, the Iraqi government has done that, allowing full
>amnesty for
>> >> >> >militias that agree to put their arms down. However, with the
>militias
>> >> >> >seeing things like ****'ite death squads in towns like Basra,
>along with
>> >> >> >the government security forces using Fedayeen style
interrogation
>> >> >> >tactics, that's probably not going to happen any time soon.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> 2) Pull out of troops in North Korea. After all, they have
>already been
>> >> >> >> there for 60 years.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >I totally agree (meaning South Korea of course)! And get
troops
>out of
>> >> >> >all the myriad places in the world they are in and concentrate
on
>> >> >> >keeping our homeland safe,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Something you perhaps have not thought about.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The reason-- once again-- that we have troops in so many diverse
>> >> >> places is to "infiltrate" hostile territory IN ADVANCE. And to
be
>> >> >> where they may be needed for emergencies -- like aiding and
evacuating
>> >> >> flood / and tsunami victims. In advance of the emergencies.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Where in the Constitution is a standing army authorized for the
purposes
>> >> >of aiding and evacuating foreign nationals from alien disasters?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> ???
>> >>
>> >> Where in the Constitution is it authorized for Catholic high school
>> >> students to ride the PUBLIC school buses?
>> >
>> >The Constition is not communistic law where everything not
specifically
>> >allowed is prohibited, it is a Christian Common Law document where a
>> >anything not prohibited is allowed.
>> >
>> >
>> Last I heard, it was illegal to provide public funds to private
>> schools. (since my son goes to a private high school, I know something
>> about that)
>
>Not sure that that was a topic of what he was talking about, but since
the
>public schools are failing, it will be an interesting topic to watch.
>Public schools did not exist prior to the past hundred years or so. IN
>the NW Ordinance, passed by the same Congress who ratified the
>Constitution, both Christianity and ecucation were encouraged and felt
to
>be necessary for good government, but it was not a federal issue
granted
>Congress to become involved.
Gee whiz! Get me on a topic I REALLY know, like our federal government
continuing to REFUSE to fund or HELP fund religious education in ANY
form,
and you sidestep, sidestep, sidestep.
You were subtle, but I caught you!
;-)
And I didn't depart FAR from the discussion. I brought in a collateral
issue.
>
>
>>
>> If the public school buses are made available to private (Catholic)
>> school children, that is essentially public dollars funding private
>> education trans****tation.
>
>Which is a far stretch from the mythical separation of church and state
>allowing Congress to violate the restrictions on Congress in the 1 st
>amendment to prohibit free religious expression in public schools where
>Congress has no delegated authority from either the states nor the
people.
>
>>
>> And I KNOW this is how the law works because in OTHER states where I
>> have brought this up (Wa****ngton, for one), I have been told
>> #1 it isn't happening/ didn't happen; you are therefore MISTAKEN (no
>> mistake)
>> #2 that's ILLEGAL!
>
>That is the political and religious opinion of the radical religious
left
>who believe that the religious beliefs of atheism are the only religious
>opinion tolerated in public.
>
>
>>
>> ( I already knew / know it's illegal, which is why I brought it up
>> to begin with)
>
>It is only 'illegal' by the imputation to the Constitution of words that
>are not there, but do come directly from the constition at paragraph 52,
>of the religiously atheistic USSR.
>
sidestep sidestep sidestep.
Where'd you learn THAT dance?
:-)
>>
>> >>
>> >> Yet that is EXACTLY what is happening (or was) when I was in high
>> >> school in the 60s in Maryland!
>> >
>> >During the life the Founding Fathers, prayers opened Congree and the
Court
>> >(and still do),
>>
>> Last I heard there are no public $$$s being paid to someone to pray in
>> Congress or at the Court.
>
>Perhaps, but isn't it interesting that the prayers, started by the
>Founding Fathers are still being done? The logic of the Supremes in
>Everson would probably find the Founding Fathers unconstitutional, but
>hey, the Supremes gave us Dredd Scott, which was dead wrong also.
>
>>
>> In fact, I take that back. HOWEVER, you should know that the
>> government is IMMUNE from the laws it passes for the rest of us!
>
>More true than not.
>
>>
>> Congress passes dumb laws every year that our Senators and
>> Congressmen/women are not subject to!
>
>At least Cynthia McKinney is finding out that there is a limit.
>
>>
>> they opened all public school days which is not prohibited
>> >by the 1st amendment, in fact, the Constitution ratified in the Year
of
>> >America's Lord 1787 purpose was to prevent Congree from ending
prayerin
>> >public schools.
>>
>> You have changed the subject.
>
>Not really.
>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Don't throw the Constitution at me!
>> >
>> >Perhaps you haven't read it.
>>
>> smirk.
>>
>> YOu keep dodging!
>
>Interesting isn't it?
>
>>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> If you were a tourist in Tokyo when a 100 foot tsunami-generated
tidal
>> >> wave hit, and you needed help NOW, I don't think you'd be terribly
>> >> upset and scream "CONSTITUTION" when 20,000 US Marines ran ashore
and
>> >> dropped from the sky to elp an hour later.
>> >
>> >Didn't say that I would. If there were there, that wold be a nice
thing to
>> >do. It is not their job to be there just in case there is another
>> >tsunami.
>>
>> No, they are there because Japan is an ally, and they allow us space
>> to put bases there which also benefit the Japanese (both for national
>> defense and the local economy)
>
>They are there to occupy Japan and to protect Japan, not from tsunami's
>but from foreign invasion because the Japanese constitution prevents
Japan
>from haveing an army at the occupying allies request. Perhaps it is
time
>for Japan to pick up their own tab with North Korea knocking at their
>door.
Perhaps. But I doubt seriously if changing Presidents would change
that foreign policy! It hasn't changed with the last 5 changes of
Presidents!
World War 11 is over. At least World War III hasn't started yet
It hasn't?
?????
Are you living in a cave with no TV news?
>and waits to begin officially when France surrenders.
>
>>
>> For being so educated, I see no indication of any education.
>>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Nor would you be so narrow minded as to yell, "Don't help that JAP!
>> >> You're here to help Yankees ONLY!"
>> >
>> >True, but that is quite off topic to the subject.
I think I have tired of your side-step. VERY FEW threads I've read or
participated in have stayed "on-topic" for very long.
All you are really saying is, "I don't have an answer for that!"
I already knew that!
;-)
john w
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Subject: Re: Mary's Commands for Catholics 1
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><larry4355@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>
>
>> Please show where in scripture that says Mary was assumed body and
>> soul into heaven.
>
>Please explain why it must be in scripture.
:-(
With virtually every post you post, "bam", you prove why there is no
reason whatever to call you "Christian."
And if you don't know why it must be in scripture, it would be kind of
silly to explain!
But, DO be prepared to answer why you had the knowledge and you
rejected it!
In favor of old wives' tales!
:-(
>
>BAM
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Subject: Re: Mary's Commands for Catholics 1
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><larry4355@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 20:51:13 -0400, "bam"
>> <mcca5761@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>>>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:26:17 -0400, "bam"
>>>> <mcca5761@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>>> author
>>>>>
>>>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> I DO find Jesus saying, "If you love me, obey ME!"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Then how come you disobey Jesus?
>>>>
>>>> ?????
>>>>
>>>> I don't know one single Christian-- never have-- who would say, " I
>>>> live a life of PERFECT obedience to Christ!"
>>>
>>>>
>>>> The day Jesus said, "... but *I* say, if you so much as LOOK at a
>>>> woman and lust, you have ALREADY committed adultery!"
>>>>
>>>> He showed us that NONE of us can live by the law.
>>>>
>>>> Which is why He died on the cross at Calvary, to redeem us from the
>>>> sins we cannot help commit.
>>>>
>>>> I don't know of a person alive who would say, " I have NEVER been
>>>> cornered / trapped into telling a lie!" Yet Heave has no room for
>>>> liars (that's in the epistles).
>>>>
>>>> AGAIN, if it were up to us to "be perfect" our way into Heaven,
Heaven
>>>> would be empty!
>>>>
>>>> We do the best we can, and we daily call upon His grace when we
>>>> INEVITABLY fall short!
>>>
>>>And confess your sins to a priest and do penance????
>>>
>>>>>But you will find a command to honor one's father and mother. So
Jesus
>>>>>honors Mary
>>>>
>>>> AGAIN, you express nothing but BLINDNESS. You are a student of the
>>>> traditions of ROME; you are OBVIOUSLY not a serious student of the
>>>> Bible, regardless of the lies you have been told.
>>>
>>>So you don't honor the Mother of God?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Jesus "obeyed" His mother on ONE RECORDED occasion that we know of.
On
>>>> the OTHER RECORDED occasion where she DEMANDED that He "hop to and
>>>> comply", He sent her away with a rebuke.
>>>>
>>>> At the feast, "His time had not come," and for reasons we will have
to
>>>> ask Him one day, he complied with her request.
>>>>
>>>> Once His ministry started, when she came to Him and DEMANDED He
leave
>>>> what He was doing (ministering to a crowd in someone's home), He
>>>> rebuked her and sent her away.
>>>>
>>>> "Lord, your mother is outside WITH YOUR BROTHERS, and she is
INSISTING
>>>> that you come out and speak with her."
>>>>
>>>> He replied, "Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?"
>>>>
>>>> He refused to see her, thereby sending her on her way!
>>>
>>>Refused to see her? Sent her on her way? Surely you have added to
>>>scripture
>>>which as you know is totally forbidden.
>>>
>>>> And I can even think of another passage where she rebuked Him
PUBLICLY
>>>> for "being somewhere OTHER than" where she wished for Him to be.
>>>>
>>>> Can you find it, or do you need me to lead you by the hand? Again?
>>>
>>>Don't know what you're talking about. Amazing that you have to
denigrate
>>>Mary in order to elevate yourself.
>>>
>>>> - why shouldn't you?
>>>>
>>>> #1 She isn't my mother.
>>>
>>>That's unfortunate.
>>>
>>>> #2 She's been dead now for over 2,000 years. What has Mary to do
with
>>>> me?
>>>
>>>Mary was assumed body and soul into heaven. The Catholic Church
guarantees
>>>that.
>>>
>>>BAM
>>>
>>
>> Please show where in scripture that says Mary was assumed body and
>> soul into heaven.
>
>The letters ( Epistles) of the Popes to the Churches.
Ummmmm.. I can't find it in the epistles, either ! Which epistle is
it in ?
Oh! You must mean the writings of the Roman Catholics.
chuckle.
They're not "scripture", and they have ZERO authority!
;-)
Oh! And I think you're lost!
The Roman Catholic group is that way
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Subject: Re: Mary's Commands for Catholics 1
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On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 20:51:13 -0400, "bam"
<mcca5761@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:26:17 -0400, "bam"
>> <mcca5761@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>>
>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote
>>>
>>>> I DO find Jesus saying, "If you love me, obey ME!"
>>>
>>>
>>>Then how come you disobey Jesus?
>>
>> ?????
>>
>> I don't know one single Christian-- never have-- who would say, " I
>> live a life of PERFECT obedience to Christ!"
>
>>
>> The day Jesus said, "... but *I* say, if you so much as LOOK at a
>> woman and lust, you have ALREADY committed adultery!"
>>
>> He showed us that NONE of us can live by the law.
>>
>> Which is why He died on the cross at Calvary, to redeem us from the
>> sins we cannot help commit.
>>
>> I don't know of a person alive who would say, " I have NEVER been
>> cornered / trapped into telling a lie!" Yet Heave has no room for
>> liars (that's in the epistles).
>>
>> AGAIN, if it were up to us to "be perfect" our way into Heaven, Heaven
>> would be empty!
>>
>> We do the best we can, and we daily call upon His grace when we
>> INEVITABLY fall short!
>
>And confess your sins to a priest and do penance????
What on EARTH are you talking about?
I confess my sins to GOD! I have no need for a "middle-man."
Let me tell you a joke, pal! IT truly goes to the heart of things!
A Baptist and a Roman Catholic are discussing their religious beliefs,
and how they're similar and how they're different.
(now I don't mean to be 100000 % accurate here; I'm making a point)
The Catholic asks how Baptists handle "sin and confession."
The Baptist explains that "well, when Baptists sin, and the Holy
Spirit makes us aware of that sin, we go to God in prayer, we confess
our sins, we ask for forgiveness, and God hears our prayers and
forgives us."
He then asks the Catholic, "How do YOU guys do it?"
The Catholic starts out, "well, once a week, we go to confession. We
confess to the priest, he gives us 20 Hail Marys and 25 Our Fathers to
chant. Then once a week, the priest goes to the bishop. He confesses
our sins to the bishop, and the bishop gives him 30 Hail Marys and 45
Our Fathers to chant. Things work their way up the food chain, and
the bishop confesses our sins to the arch-bishop, who gives him Hail
Marys and Our Fathers to chant, then every 6 months or so, the
archbishop goes to the cardinal. He confesses our sins to the
cardinal, who gives him some Hail Marys and some Our Fathers to chant,
and then once a year, the cardinal goes to Rome and seeks an audience
with the Holy Father, the pope.
The pope hears all these confessions, and then he gives the
cardinals some Hail Marys and some Our Fathers, and then the pope, the
Holy Father, goes to his prayer closet, and he kneels down and
confesses and repents those thousands of sins to God, and asks for
forgiveness, DIRECTLY FROM GOD.
The Baptist chimes in, "Oh! So your pope, your "Holy Father", he goes
directly to God?"
"YES!" the Roman Catholic responds, his chest swelling with pride.
"So, your pope, is a BAPTIST!" the Baptist declares. "He goes
direct!"
;-)
>
>>>But you will find a command to honor one's father and mother. So Jesus
>>>honors Mary
>>
>> AGAIN, you express nothing but BLINDNESS. You are a student of the
>> traditions of ROME; you are OBVIOUSLY not a serious student of the
>> Bible, regardless of the lies you have been told.
>
>So you don't honor the Mother of God?
>
I believe I answered that. "What "Mother of God?" I do not find that
wording in the Bible.
( and if you ever read the Bible, you'd know that)
:-(
>
>> Jesus "obeyed" His mother on ONE RECORDED occasion that we know of. On
>> the OTHER RECORDED occasion where she DEMANDED that He "hop to and
>> comply", He sent her away with a rebuke.
>>
>> At the feast, "His time had not come," and for reasons we will have to
>> ask Him one day, he complied with her request.
>>
>> Once His ministry started, when she came to Him and DEMANDED He leave
>> what He was doing (ministering to a crowd in someone's home), He
>> rebuked her and sent her away.
>>
>> "Lord, your mother is outside WITH YOUR BROTHERS, and she is INSISTING
>> that you come out and speak with her."
>>
>> He replied, "Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?"
>>
>> He refused to see her, thereby sending her on her way!
>
>Refused to see her? Sent her on her way?
There is NO INDICATION WHATSOEVER from the text that He got up and
left those to whom He was ministering and spoke to her OUTSIDE! There
is NO indication WHATSOEVER FROM THE TEXT that He invited her in!
MT 12:46 While Jesus was still talking to the crowd, his mother
and brothers stood outside, wanting to speak to him.
(some say Mary remained a virgin. This verse says she had other
children after she had Jesus. This passage refers to His sisters)
47 Someone told him, "Your mother and brothers are standing outside,
wanting to speak to you."
MT 12:48 He replied to him, "Who is my mother, and who are my
brothers?"
49 Pointing to his disciples, he said, "Here are my mother and my
brothers.
50 For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and
sister and mother."
MT 13:1 That same day Jesus went out of the house and sat by the lake.
[ There is NO indication from the text-- other than your
ASSUMPTIONS-- that Jesus left the meeting to go speak with His mother
and His siblings! ]]
2 Such large crowds gathered around him that he got into a boat and
sat in it, while all the people stood on the shore.
Surely you have added to scripture
>which as you know is totally forbidden.
I have added N O text that says OR suggests that Jesus met with His
mother on that occasion.!!
>
>> And I can even think of another passage where she rebuked Him PUBLICLY
>> for "being somewhere OTHER than" where she wished for Him to be.
>>
>> Can you find it, or do you need me to lead you by the hand? Again?
>
>Don't know what you're talking about.
lol!! I have NO doubt that you don't know the Bible, so you have NO
CLUE what I am talking about!
There is a passage early in the gospels where the 'Holy Family" (Mary,
Joseph, Jesus, and the rest of the relatives (no doubt His younger
siblings) traveled to Jerusalem when the boy was around 12 years old.
Does that AGE in a Jewish boy's life ring any bells for you?
( hint hint! Oh scholar, on this occasion, he would have FIRST met
with the elders and been thoroughly quizzed on His knowledge of the
scriptures (OT), after which he would have had a HUGE party in his
honor)
They had the long quiz regarding the scriptures, then He partied as
all 12-year old Jewish boys do at that time, then His family left for
home. Several days into their journey towards home, someone realized
the young man, Jesus, was not among them. They returned to Jerusalem,
looking for "the young Christ." They found Him in the temple, being
interviewed by the elders.
His mother started to scold Him. Why did you not stay with the family,
boy? Didn't you know you'd have us worried sick, looking for you?
You should be ashamed of yourself! Now come along!"
(again, poetic license)
46 After three days they found him in the temple courts, sitting among
the teachers, listening to them and asking them questions.
47 Everyone who heard him was amazed at his understanding and his
answers.
48 When his parents saw him, they were astonished.
-->His mother said to him, "Son, why have you treated us like this?
Your father and I have been anxiously searching for you." <--
[[ Mary SCOLDED Him for not staying with the family group!
He REBUKED her! v v ]]
LK 2:49 "Why were you searching for me?" he asked. "Didn't you
know I had to be in my Father's house?" 50 But they did not understand
what he was saying to them.
SURELY, bam, you should spend less time with your RCC Catechism (which
is NOT the Bible), and more time reading and STUDYING God's revealed
TEXT (the Holy Bible)
Amazing that you have to denigrate
>Mary in order to elevate yourself.
??????
I have not denigrated Mary!
You LIAR!!
I simply do not WOR****P her!
Nor do I "revere her". I revere and wor****p God!
>
>> - why shouldn't you?
>>
>> #1 She isn't my mother.
>
>That's unfortunate.
She didn't give birth to me, or to you!
I honored MY MOTHER!
Sad! Unfortunate!
If ONLY YOU honored God/Jesus the way you honor Mary!
:-(
>
>> #2 She's been dead now for over 2,000 years. What has Mary to do with
>> me?
>
>Mary was assumed body and soul into heaven.
?????
Please quote that verse. I can't find it in my Bible!
And-- again-- that RUBBISH is man-written, and explains why you
wor****p DEAD women!
The Catholic Church guarantees
>that.
Your "catholic church."
rose up from the PIT!
>
>BAM
By the way, I believe you are lost.
The Roman Catholic group went that way
< ------------------------
:-)
You're welcome!
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Subject: Re: Mary's Commands for Catholics 1
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author
>On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 20:51:13 -0400, "bam"
><mcca5761@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>news:uorkd2lc14fgpfop0nq85cflcevi9ti17v@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>> On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:26:17 -0400, "bam"
>>> <mcca5761@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>> author
>>>>
>>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote
>>>>
>>>>> I DO find Jesus saying, "If you love me, obey ME!"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Then how come you disobey Jesus?
>>>
>>> ?????
>>>
>>> I don't know one single Christian-- never have-- who would say, " I
>>> live a life of PERFECT obedience to Christ!"
>>
>>>
>>> The day Jesus said, "... but *I* say, if you so much as LOOK at a
>>> woman and lust, you have ALREADY committed adultery!"
>>>
>>> He showed us that NONE of us can live by the law.
>>>
>>> Which is why He died on the cross at Calvary, to redeem us from the
>>> sins we cannot help commit.
>>>
>>> I don't know of a person alive who would say, " I have NEVER been
>>> cornered / trapped into telling a lie!" Yet Heave has no room for
>>> liars (that's in the epistles).
>>>
>>> AGAIN, if it were up to us to "be perfect" our way into Heaven,
Heaven
>>> would be empty!
>>>
>>> We do the best we can, and we daily call upon His grace when we
>>> INEVITABLY fall short!
>>
>>And confess your sins to a priest and do penance????
>>
>>>>But you will find a command to honor one's father and mother. So
Jesus
>>>>honors Mary
>>>
>>> AGAIN, you express nothing but BLINDNESS. You are a student of the
>>> traditions of ROME; you are OBVIOUSLY not a serious student of the
>>> Bible, regardless of the lies you have been told.
>>
>>So you don't honor the Mother of God?
>>
>>
>>> Jesus "obeyed" His mother on ONE RECORDED occasion that we know of.
On
>>> the OTHER RECORDED occasion where she DEMANDED that He "hop to and
>>> comply", He sent her away with a rebuke.
>>>
>>> At the feast, "His time had not come," and for reasons we will have
to
>>> ask Him one day, he complied with her request.
>>>
>>> Once His ministry started, when she came to Him and DEMANDED He leave
>>> what He was doing (ministering to a crowd in someone's home), He
>>> rebuked her and sent her away.
>>>
>>> "Lord, your mother is outside WITH YOUR BROTHERS, and she is
INSISTING
>>> that you come out and speak with her."
>>>
>>> He replied, "Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?"
>>>
>>> He refused to see her, thereby sending her on her way!
>>
>>Refused to see her? Sent her on her way? Surely you have added to
scripture
>>which as you know is totally forbidden.
>>
>>> And I can even think of another passage where she rebuked Him
PUBLICLY
>>> for "being somewhere OTHER than" where she wished for Him to be.
>>>
>>> Can you find it, or do you need me to lead you by the hand? Again?
>>
>>Don't know what you're talking about. Amazing that you have to
denigrate
>>Mary in order to elevate yourself.
>>
>>> - why shouldn't you?
>>>
>>> #1 She isn't my mother.
>>
>>That's unfortunate.
>>
>>> #2 She's been dead now for over 2,000 years. What has Mary to do with
>>> me?
>>
>>Mary was assumed body and soul into heaven. The Catholic Church
guarantees
>>that.
>>
>>BAM
>>
>
>Please show where in scripture that says Mary was assumed body and
>soul into heaven.
It's not in the Bible. IT's in the "writings of the popes", which the
Roman Catholic teaches is SUPERIOR to the Bible!
:-(
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Subject: Re: Jesus was crucified April 25, 31 AD
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:47:17 -0700
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>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>> I shall continue to trust the accounts of the eye-witnesses (found in
>> the gospels)
>
>
>There are no eyewitnesses, except perhaps Peter... who wrote nothing.
This MUST be Phar Lap!
You are the one guy I know of (or girl ? ) who knows absolutely
everything there is to know about absolutely everything!
:-)
(you certainly get MY vote as the world's most opinionated,
ego-inflated, self-im****tant bore)
>
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Subject: Re: Jesus was crucified April 25, 31 AD
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> wrote:
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>
>"Bree" <Shasta@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message news:Shasta-
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>> In article <q5gkd2l4qdo8mfqb2eg5it825ebn7eg38b@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
>> <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> > x-no-archive: yes
>> > On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:09:38 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
>> > <mams@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> > article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> > author
>> > >
>> > >"Dr Min PhD ThD" <anon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>....
>> > >
>> > >> As a matter of incontrovertible scriptural, profane historical
>> > >> and astronomical fact, Jesus Christ was crucified at about 9 AM
>> > >> LAT Wednesday April 25, 31 AD
>> > >
>> > >Oh dear... A nutter who doesn't understand that it wasn't until
nearly
>> > >500 years later
>> >
>> > Phar Lap, you TRULY should shut your pie-eating apparatus until you
>> > have personally paid a visit to the Izmir church (if your demons
will
>> > allow you to go)
>
>In the early 70's I visited some churches in Izmir, Istanbul, and Chigli
>while working a military operation in Turkey as sup****t to yet another
>of the ongoing Arab vs. Israeli fiascos.
>
You misspelled "Cigli", Phar Lap.
john w
>> You really are confused - I have no idea who David Morgan is
>
>Let me introduce myself. I'm just visiting. Yesterday I forgot the
>exact date and time Jesus was born... so I may as well leave, eh?
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Jesus was crucified April 25, 31 AD
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>In article <q5gkd2l4qdo8mfqb2eg5it825ebn7eg38b@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 18:09:38 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
>> <mams@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>> >
>> >"Dr Min PhD ThD" <anon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>....
>> >
>> >> As a matter of incontrovertible scriptural, profane historical
>> >> and astronomical fact, Jesus Christ was crucified at about 9 AM
>> >> LAT Wednesday April 25, 31 AD
>> >
>> >Oh dear... A nutter who doesn't understand that it wasn't until
nearly
>> >500 years later
>>
>> Phar Lap, you TRULY should shut your pie-eating apparatus until you
>> have personally paid a visit to the Izmir church (if your demons will
>> allow you to go)
>>
>
>You really are confused - I have no idea who David Morgan is
>
>Phar Lap is a sig I used several years ago - named after a rather superb
>racehorse that had far more and less diseased brains than you
I'll call you what I want to call you!
k?
k
>
>You seem to be harping on the Izmir Church again
As I have said, I am not the only person who has been to the site. And
the Smyrnan church is some 30 miles from the city I visited. ;-)
You TRULY should stick with the subjects you know about, which means
you should ONLY EVER talk about yourself!
;-)
And if you had a brain in your hollow skull, you could simply check
the book of Revelation, and you would note that John wrote to the
church at Ephesus and to the church at Smyrna SEPARATELY. Two
different churches in two different locations!
PLUS, you have not been there, STUPID person! I have!
I know you don't consider the Bible valid, but you certainly misquote
it often enough!
And what do YOU care if I'm wrong?
Does it TRULY turn the entire planet on its ear?
You seem to have this OBSESSION with ALWAYS BEING ABSOLUTELY
1000000000 % right about every teensy weeeeensy thing.
NO one is ALWAYS right about EVERYTHING, Phar Lap! Not even you!
(sorry)
john w
snip
And I have SEVERAL times posted the information on the web here! You
are simply MISREADING it!
;-)
now, run along little boy, and play in traffic like a good gnome!
;-)
ATTENTION W H O R E !!
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>>> APPLICATION TO JOIN misc.education.home-school.christian
>>> Amended 2006
>>> *Mandatory for all Newbies
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>
>
Thank GOODNESS, there are no uneducated, unread, uncultured,
uncivilized, illiterate, bigoted boobs in YOUR family!
They disinherited you!
tsk tsk
What happened to the good old fa****oned kind of humor that wasn't at
the expense of those you love to hate?
hmmmm?
>Congratulations Unemployed Deity!
>
>You have been accepted by the misc.education.home-school.christian
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>
>You are now a full member of misc.education.home-school.christian and
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>"Wooly Baa Lamb" chris@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>"Jayne Kulikauskas" jayne.kulikauskas@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>You also have access to mentoring by the following:
>
>
>"Wooly (sic) Baa Lamb" <chris@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> mentors in the Tew Homeskool
>Spellun Mehod which limits everything to three-letter words.
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>"Snapper" aka INAD davidvaridel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
mentors in 1001 ways to
>respell Aussie. He also mentors in becoming a Trew Homeskool Dickhead.
>
>The Welcoming Committee
>
>(Tar and feathering supplied free of charge!)
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author
>In article <ip4id2he5g2jje0rq72fd9e7v8e3oc94t2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
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>
>> Do be aware, "CB", that misanthropic is another who is a LIKELY
>> candidate for being "a demoniac." And conserve your strength for the
>> REAL battles.
>>
>In one post you say that demons haven't manifested themselves to you in
years.
>
>At the same time in another you claim to recognise that CB is demoniac
>
>Three things are for sure Weatherly
>
>You are the filthiest of liars
>
>You are NO Christian
>
>You are totally insane
>
>Train wreck coming in your life unless you seek urgent inhouse treatment
How about getting your obsessive-compulsive disorder treated?
You've been singing that song for 6 YEARS now, Phar Lap. When are you
going to figure out that only your fellow psychos are going for it?
tsk tsk.
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>In article <ip4id2he5g2jje0rq72fd9e7v8e3oc94t2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>> Do be aware, "CB", that misanthropic is another who is a LIKELY
>> candidate for being "a demoniac." And conserve your strength for the
>> REAL battles.
>>
>In one post you say that demons haven't manifested themselves to you in
years.
Even someone as stupid and as braindead as YOU should understand the
difference between confronting demons in PERSON, and suspecting people
of being demons
in here.
Where' s your brain, Phar Lap? And are you out hunting for it?
>
>At the same time in another you claim to recognise that CB is demoniac
I never ever claimed that Christianbeauty (the only CB I am talking
with these days)
is a demoniac.
That is YOUR title, Phar Lap!
>
>Three things are for sure Weatherly
You are a demoniac
you are psychotic
you aren't 1/100th as clever as you think you are!
Phar Lap. One more who is a legend in his own mind!
(come to Seattle, Satan's child, and I'll cast your demons out)
;-)
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<misanthropiccurmudgeon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>
>christianbeauty wrote:
>
>> i dont need a crutch . im not a weak person. God builds me up.
>
>If your parents had taught you (a) basic coping mecahnisms to deal with
>the natural trauma of life and (b) self-esteem, you would not need
>'building up'.
>
>
>> You are
>> being used by Satan to bring me down
>
>Again, this is classic externalising: All things one cant cope with are
>not part of you, are bad, need to be pushed away.
>
>You should be aware that such externalising is a key aspect of many
>mental illnessess.
chuckle!
In the past few years, I have read NUMEROUS comments about how YOU,
mis- are obviously VERY mental!
chuckle.
So far, Christianbeauty seems like about the sanest person here!
smirk!
"KICK BOOTY, CB!"
;-)
>
>
>> I dont need to believe in anything. I choose to because i
>> believe in doing what is right. Jesus is what is right.
>
>This is bordering on circular reasoning.
>Do you understand what circular reasoning is?
>
>
>
>> if my faith is wrong at least i didnt
>> waste my life
>
>You would 'beleive' rather than question?
>You would 'follow' rather than inquire?
>And you would call my life a waste????
>
>
>
>> Get over your atheist thinking and
>> stubborness and wake up bc you could die tomorrow.
>
>I find you calling stubborn interesting, and quite hypocritical, for my
>thoughts are flexiable: yours are founded in inflexibilty, and a
>dogmatic adherence to them shows you are the stubborn one.
>
>I could die tommorrow, and I would do so knowing that I have lived life
>to the full. I would have thought, pondered, and explored, as opposed
>to a shallow reciting of descredited mantras
>
>
>I note you have still not addressed my questions: Does mere
>questioning frighten or scare you?
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>In <ihdid2h4jknqtphhbi5ubj3qa5qlu10vvf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>On 8 Aug 2006 13:41:50 -0700, "christianbeauty"
>><southernbelle729@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this article
>>may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the author
>>>I assure you John i lay my hands heart and soul on the Bible itself I
>>>am 17. and thanks for the encouragement and rescuing on my topic ...i
>>>was getting tired of David...he is so superfluous
>
>>hugs n kisses, m'love!
>
>> Call me your "big bro'" or your "Uncle" or your "grandpa", whichever
>>floats your boat!
>
>Or she could call you with majority of people call you, liar.
You don't know "the majority of people" who know me
liar.
And if you don't like my posts, demoniac, you are not required to read
them.
I DO miss your long COLLECTIONS of my posts, tho! Would you please
start doing that again?
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>In <ihdid2h4jknqtphhbi5ubj3qa5qlu10vvf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, on 08/08/06
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> jw he did a courting go, he
has
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>
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>>On 8 Aug 2006 13:41:50 -0700, "christianbeauty"
>><southernbelle729@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this article
>>may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the author
>>>I assure you John i lay my hands heart and soul on the Bible itself I
>>>am 17. and thanks for the encouragement and rescuing on my topic ...i
>>>was getting tired of David...he is so superfluous
>
>>hugs n kisses, m'love!
>
>> Call me your "big bro'" or your "Uncle" or your "grandpa", whichever
>>floats your boat!
>
>Or she could call you with majority of people call you, liar. Now can
she
>not, retired Sergeant E5, United States Air Force, who received a
>discharge from the Air Force under undesirable conditions about the same
>time he retired if one can believe that. What's that you say, you are
not
>a liar. Now how did I know you are going to say that. Allow me to
>refresh your memory as to when you claimed to be a retired Sergeant E5.
WOW! For someone "keeping track", you sure have garbled everything a
lot!
;-)
(but no doubt you're aware of that)
I note that you are very good with mis-quoting, but not so good with
posting PROOF of what you say I said.
;-)
And as good as you are with posting the misquotes (demoniacs would do
that), you are not NEARLY so good about responding to my CORRECTIONS
of your garbled posts!
;-)
but, you probably knew THAT, too!
And SEVERAL Others have jumped on you and corrected your
mis-information and your TWISTS of information, and your out-and-out
LIES, and you have NUMEROUS times backpedaled like you had invented a
new Olympic S****T, "backpedaling".
;-)
but, you know THAT, too!
Which makes ME not "the liar!" It makes YOU the PATHOLOGICAL liar!
;-)
which you ALSO knew!
Now, to be specific, you sewer crawling s**** (hence my nick for you,
"crawls")
I said I was a "retired E-5 Sergeant" until someone pointed out
(correctly) that I didn't "retire". I was "let go."
Fine. I was an E-5 upon separation. I don't know how many times I have
said that OPENLY, and yet you STILL prefer to go back to the ORIGINAL
statement which I already ADMITTED was not correct.
Which means you are now LYING about what I said.
>
>It started when you made a claim for a Baptist church being physically
>present in England before Baptist were even in England.
And THEN, SOMEONE asked me, "were you sure it was a Baptist church?
Perhaps it was just a church."
And I said, "good point! It was a church, with a cornerstone that said
"525 AD." I cannot swear that it was a Baptist church in the 6th C.
AGAIN, you prefer to IGNORE my admissions and CORRECTIONS, because,
with your skull full of PUSS, and not gray matter, you MUCH prefer
accusing to getting the FACTS.
And-- dirtbag (I'm being nice)-- WHEN we square off in court (if I can
ever FIND your cowardly, hiding ass), I will BURY you!
;-)
( I DO SO hope you're rich, you cretin)
Of course, you
>are questioned by people who happen to live in England and one of them
>made an effort to locate this church, and to no one's surprise, he
failed.
"To no one's surprise?" Try speaking for yourself, dirtbag! He also
said (admitted) he'd never been to the area!
Didn't he?
And he didn't go to the base I said the church was at, DID he?
(no, he did not) I said, it was PROBABLY at Alconbury (since
confirmed). He went to Lakenheath, as I recall.
Someone else DID go to Alconbury, and sent me several dozen photos.
The church was not in the photos, for reasons I don't know. However, I
have FINALLY found a way to go MYSELF. And in the next 6 or 12 months,
I plan on making the trip myself.
>He took his own personal time to do this, it made a site stop at one of
>the two possible bases that you claimed while on the way to his friend's
>wedding.
BIG DEAL! He also apologized for not getting to both bases! A FACT
you dismiss.
Shortly after that you posted in the retired military newsgroup
>that you are a retired Sergeant E5 from the U.S. Air Force and attempted
>to play on military to to camaraderie of the military community to do
your
>work for you and provide the evidence you could not.
So what? If you had ever been in the military -- you obviously have
not-- you would understand the camaradarie you don't understand. I
have no problem asking current members and past members of the
military who have been stationed at Alconbury.
And SEVERAL who are no longer there REMEMBERED the tiny church! A
FACT YOU chose to IGNORE!
When this was found
>out you into a song and dance about that being a misstatement, your
quote
>was you had misspoken. The fact is you flat out lied in an attempt to
get
>someone else to do your work for you. To date, you have yet to provide
>any of the photographs that you have promised would be forthcoming.
Rubbish! I said I would provide photos, but as you have REPEATELY
shown yourself to be NOTHING but a cretin, an anus, and a total jerk,
I promised you YOU would never see them!
* ( like I care what YOU think!! )
dirtbag!
Of
>course, you qualified that promise with people that were worthy to see
>them, which effectively means no one will ever see them because they do
>not exist in spite of your claims.
When you get to Izmir, you can call me a liar. When you get to Little
Stukeley, you can call me a liar,
demoniac!
>
>
>>And as long as I've been in here, kickin' booty, I'm by your side so
long
>
>Here is another light you don't mind telling in public, you do not take
>any booty instead,
I kick YOUR butt frequently, as I am doing now.
snip
And you have AGAIN used up your two minutes, once again with no
indication of any brain activity.
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Subject: Re: try as i may, i just can't like some Christians.
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:24:06 -0700
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On 9 Aug 2006 11:17:18 -0700, "christianbeauty"
<southernbelle729@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>you have no life do you?
lol!!
Actually "walksalone" ( I call him "crawls" as in, he crawls on his
belly like a serpent (Satan) has a life. His life is devoted to
thinking his silliness bothers people like me!
He and others like him with no lives continue to ignore the FACT that
what he is doing (long-term Internet harassment and stalking) are
illegal.
;-)
Hiya, CB!
:-)
john w
>walksalone@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> In <243id2hh0g4vsulfik4vr3267arskkun70@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, on 08/08/06
>> at 03:18 PM, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
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>
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>> Subject: Re: try as i may, i just can't like some Christians. Date:
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>> 08 Aug 2006 15:18:39 -0700
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>> >On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 16:18:10 -0400, "dustbin"
>> ><9999dem@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article
>> >may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the author
>> >>
>> >>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>> >>news:pbqfd25r0qc6ikeoldbjddcbs09gtrsjte@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>>
>> >>> I am saying when I knock on someone's door to present the gospel,
a
>> >>> "not interested" is one thing, and I can take the hint. I've had
that
>> >>> happen a hundred times.
>> >>>
>> >>> When the person opens the door and throws boiling water at me, and
>> >>> then lets loose the string of expletives I suggested earlier (that
HAS
>> >>> happened to me), that is an indication of demonic activity.
>> >>>
>> >>> PEOPLE simply have no reason to act that way.
>> >>
>> >>Johnny it's your obstinate, unbending, high minded
>> >>and uppity personality here on Usenet that is the true
>> >>indication of why someone once tried to give you
>> >>a 212°F H2O cleansing douche.
>>
>> >Who is this "Johnny?" My name is "John." And YOU don't know me, so
don't
>> >call me a silly nickname!
>>
>> Why should you not be called a silly nickname, you attempt to do that
to
>> others, and it's much kinder than St. John the liar. Not as accurate,
but
>> kinder.
>>
>> >And let me clarify something. I was talking about people tossing
boiling
>> >water as an EXTREME form of abusive behavior. No one has ever tossed
>> >boiling water at me in such a situation, though I brought it up
because I
>> >HAVE heard of it happening to others (friends of mine). I'd hate for
one
>> >of my friends from that church to one day see this thread and say,
"John!
>> >That didn't happen to YOU! It happened to Ralph and Mary!"
>>
>> >" IT DIDN'T HAPPEN TO ME!"
>>
>> Oh but it did according to you on Monday.
>>
>> *******************************************
>> I am saying when I knock on someone's door to present the gospel, a
"not
>> interested" is one thing, and I can take the hint. I've had that
happen a
>> hundred times.
>>
>> When the person opens the door and throws boiling water at me, and
then
>> lets loose the string of expletives I suggested earlier (that HAS
happened
>> to me), that is an indication of demonic activity.
>>
>>
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>> Subject: Re: try as i may, i just can't like some Christians. Date:
Mon,
>> 07 Aug 2006 18:36:40 -0700
>> Message-ID: <pbqfd25r0qc6ikeoldbjddcbs09gtrsjte@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> has the critical information
>>
>> >I HAVE been repeatedly cursed out and have had doors slammed in my
face,
>> >but that didn't happen a LOT. Perhaps 3 times.
>>
>> >I just want to clarify that now that it's been mentioned several
times.
>>
>> In other words, you do not tell the lie you told, is that a correct
>> summarization of what you are claiming?
>>
>> >NO, no one ever threw boiling water at me! I merely used the
experience
>> >of a friend at church as an example.
>>
>> In other words, you had lied again, and someone was paying attention.
>>
>> >I HAVE had a bucket of ice water thrown at me, but only as a joke.
>>
>> The joke was on the bucket of water.
>>
>> > In fact, reading
>> >>your many earlier postings and rantings lends me to
>> >>believe that you are probably among the most despised
>> >>people on your block or neighborhood. How is it that
>> >>someone like you can be full of so much vinegar and
>> >>anger can still get up to breathe oxygen another day?
>>
>> >WOW! I have a new fan! However, I suspect that this is an old fan
using
>> >ANOTHER assumed sig.
>>
>> Well, that's one more than you ever had before.
>>
>> >((|))
>>
>> There, I corrected your smiley for you, was that not nice of me?
After
>> all, you would not want people to think you are not what you are, an
>> ordinary asshole hiding behind the cloak of being a xian and preaching
the
>> word of god.
>>
>> >Hi!
>>
>> You must be to post the tripe you post expect people to believe it.
>>
>> which wannabe this time jw, the totally befuddled individual that
cannot
>> keep his lies straight and is upset when others do?
>>
>> walksalone who has seen many tragedies in his life, but quite possibly
jw
>> being allowed access to the USENET is one of the worst.
>>
>>
>> --
>> The Hadith Qudsi 6
>>
>> The first of people against whom judgment will be pronounced on the
Day of Resurrection will be a
>> man who died a martyr. He will be brought and Allah will make known to
him His favours and he will
>> recognize them.
>>
>> The Almighty will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I
fought for you until I died a
>> martyr. He will say: You have lied - you did but fight that it might
be said [of you]: He is courageous.
>> And so it was said.
>>
>> Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is
cast into Hell-fire.
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Subject: Re: try as i may, i just can't like some Christians.
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On 9 Aug 2006 10:32:01 -0700, "christianbeauty"
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