>the natural trauma of life and (b) self-esteem, you would not need
>'building up'.
>
>
>> You are
>> being used by Satan to bring me down
>
>Again, this is classic externalising: All things one cant cope with are
>not part of you, are bad, need to be pushed away.
>
>You should be aware that such externalising is a key aspect of many
>mental illnessess.
chuckle!
In the past few years, I have read NUMEROUS comments about how YOU,
mis- are obviously VERY mental!
chuckle.
So far, Christianbeauty seems like about the sanest person here!
smirk!
"KICK BOOTY, CB!"
;-)
>
>
>> I dont need to believe in anything. I choose to because i
>> believe in doing what is right. Jesus is what is right.
>
>This is bordering on circular reasoning.
>Do you understand what circular reasoning is?
>
>
>
>> if my faith is wrong at least i didnt
>> waste my life
>
>You would 'beleive' rather than question?
>You would 'follow' rather than inquire?
>And you would call my life a waste????
>
>
>
>> Get over your atheist thinking and
>> stubborness and wake up bc you could die tomorrow.
>
>I find you calling stubborn interesting, and quite hypocritical, for my
>thoughts are flexiable: yours are founded in inflexibilty, and a
>dogmatic adherence to them shows you are the stubborn one.
>
>I could die tommorrow, and I would do so knowing that I have lived life
>to the full. I would have thought, pondered, and explored, as opposed
>to a shallow reciting of descredited mantras
>
>
>I note you have still not addressed my questions: Does mere
>questioning frighten or scare you?
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author
>In <ihdid2h4jknqtphhbi5ubj3qa5qlu10vvf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, on 08/08/06
> at 06:16 PM, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> jw he did a courting go, he
has
>not been this enthusiastic since he ran Peggy off.
>
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>
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>>On 8 Aug 2006 13:41:50 -0700, "christianbeauty"
>><southernbelle729@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this article
>>may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the author
>>>I assure you John i lay my hands heart and soul on the Bible itself I
>>>am 17. and thanks for the encouragement and rescuing on my topic ...i
>>>was getting tired of David...he is so superfluous
>
>>hugs n kisses, m'love!
>
>> Call me your "big bro'" or your "Uncle" or your "grandpa", whichever
>>floats your boat!
>
>Or she could call you with majority of people call you, liar.
You don't know "the majority of people" who know me
liar.
And if you don't like my posts, demoniac, you are not required to read
them.
I DO miss your long COLLECTIONS of my posts, tho! Would you please
start doing that again?
:-)
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Subject: Re: try as i may, i just can't like some Christians.
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author
>In <ihdid2h4jknqtphhbi5ubj3qa5qlu10vvf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, on 08/08/06
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> jw he did a courting go, he
has
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>
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>
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>>On 8 Aug 2006 13:41:50 -0700, "christianbeauty"
>><southernbelle729@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this article
>>may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the author
>>>I assure you John i lay my hands heart and soul on the Bible itself I
>>>am 17. and thanks for the encouragement and rescuing on my topic ...i
>>>was getting tired of David...he is so superfluous
>
>>hugs n kisses, m'love!
>
>> Call me your "big bro'" or your "Uncle" or your "grandpa", whichever
>>floats your boat!
>
>Or she could call you with majority of people call you, liar. Now can
she
>not, retired Sergeant E5, United States Air Force, who received a
>discharge from the Air Force under undesirable conditions about the same
>time he retired if one can believe that. What's that you say, you are
not
>a liar. Now how did I know you are going to say that. Allow me to
>refresh your memory as to when you claimed to be a retired Sergeant E5.
WOW! For someone "keeping track", you sure have garbled everything a
lot!
;-)
(but no doubt you're aware of that)
I note that you are very good with mis-quoting, but not so good with
posting PROOF of what you say I said.
;-)
And as good as you are with posting the misquotes (demoniacs would do
that), you are not NEARLY so good about responding to my CORRECTIONS
of your garbled posts!
;-)
but, you probably knew THAT, too!
And SEVERAL Others have jumped on you and corrected your
mis-information and your TWISTS of information, and your out-and-out
LIES, and you have NUMEROUS times backpedaled like you had invented a
new Olympic S****T, "backpedaling".
;-)
but, you know THAT, too!
Which makes ME not "the liar!" It makes YOU the PATHOLOGICAL liar!
;-)
which you ALSO knew!
Now, to be specific, you sewer crawling s**** (hence my nick for you,
"crawls")
I said I was a "retired E-5 Sergeant" until someone pointed out
(correctly) that I didn't "retire". I was "let go."
Fine. I was an E-5 upon separation. I don't know how many times I have
said that OPENLY, and yet you STILL prefer to go back to the ORIGINAL
statement which I already ADMITTED was not correct.
Which means you are now LYING about what I said.
>
>It started when you made a claim for a Baptist church being physically
>present in England before Baptist were even in England.
And THEN, SOMEONE asked me, "were you sure it was a Baptist church?
Perhaps it was just a church."
And I said, "good point! It was a church, with a cornerstone that said
"525 AD." I cannot swear that it was a Baptist church in the 6th C.
AGAIN, you prefer to IGNORE my admissions and CORRECTIONS, because,
with your skull full of PUSS, and not gray matter, you MUCH prefer
accusing to getting the FACTS.
And-- dirtbag (I'm being nice)-- WHEN we square off in court (if I can
ever FIND your cowardly, hiding ass), I will BURY you!
;-)
( I DO SO hope you're rich, you cretin)
Of course, you
>are questioned by people who happen to live in England and one of them
>made an effort to locate this church, and to no one's surprise, he
failed.
"To no one's surprise?" Try speaking for yourself, dirtbag! He also
said (admitted) he'd never been to the area!
Didn't he?
And he didn't go to the base I said the church was at, DID he?
(no, he did not) I said, it was PROBABLY at Alconbury (since
confirmed). He went to Lakenheath, as I recall.
Someone else DID go to Alconbury, and sent me several dozen photos.
The church was not in the photos, for reasons I don't know. However, I
have FINALLY found a way to go MYSELF. And in the next 6 or 12 months,
I plan on making the trip myself.
>He took his own personal time to do this, it made a site stop at one of
>the two possible bases that you claimed while on the way to his friend's
>wedding.
BIG DEAL! He also apologized for not getting to both bases! A FACT
you dismiss.
Shortly after that you posted in the retired military newsgroup
>that you are a retired Sergeant E5 from the U.S. Air Force and attempted
>to play on military to to camaraderie of the military community to do
your
>work for you and provide the evidence you could not.
So what? If you had ever been in the military -- you obviously have
not-- you would understand the camaradarie you don't understand. I
have no problem asking current members and past members of the
military who have been stationed at Alconbury.
And SEVERAL who are no longer there REMEMBERED the tiny church! A
FACT YOU chose to IGNORE!
When this was found
>out you into a song and dance about that being a misstatement, your
quote
>was you had misspoken. The fact is you flat out lied in an attempt to
get
>someone else to do your work for you. To date, you have yet to provide
>any of the photographs that you have promised would be forthcoming.
Rubbish! I said I would provide photos, but as you have REPEATELY
shown yourself to be NOTHING but a cretin, an anus, and a total jerk,
I promised you YOU would never see them!
* ( like I care what YOU think!! )
dirtbag!
Of
>course, you qualified that promise with people that were worthy to see
>them, which effectively means no one will ever see them because they do
>not exist in spite of your claims.
When you get to Izmir, you can call me a liar. When you get to Little
Stukeley, you can call me a liar,
demoniac!
>
>
>>And as long as I've been in here, kickin' booty, I'm by your side so
long
>
>Here is another light you don't mind telling in public, you do not take
>any booty instead,
I kick YOUR butt frequently, as I am doing now.
snip
And you have AGAIN used up your two minutes, once again with no
indication of any brain activity.
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<southernbelle729@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
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>you have no life do you?
lol!!
Actually "walksalone" ( I call him "crawls" as in, he crawls on his
belly like a serpent (Satan) has a life. His life is devoted to
thinking his silliness bothers people like me!
He and others like him with no lives continue to ignore the FACT that
what he is doing (long-term Internet harassment and stalking) are
illegal.
;-)
Hiya, CB!
:-)
john w
>walksalone@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> In <243id2hh0g4vsulfik4vr3267arskkun70@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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article
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>> >>
>> >>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >>> I am saying when I knock on someone's door to present the gospel,
a
>> >>> "not interested" is one thing, and I can take the hint. I've had
that
>> >>> happen a hundred times.
>> >>>
>> >>> When the person opens the door and throws boiling water at me, and
>> >>> then lets loose the string of expletives I suggested earlier (that
HAS
>> >>> happened to me), that is an indication of demonic activity.
>> >>>
>> >>> PEOPLE simply have no reason to act that way.
>> >>
>> >>Johnny it's your obstinate, unbending, high minded
>> >>and uppity personality here on Usenet that is the true
>> >>indication of why someone once tried to give you
>> >>a 212°F H2O cleansing douche.
>>
>> >Who is this "Johnny?" My name is "John." And YOU don't know me, so
don't
>> >call me a silly nickname!
>>
>> Why should you not be called a silly nickname, you attempt to do that
to
>> others, and it's much kinder than St. John the liar. Not as accurate,
but
>> kinder.
>>
>> >And let me clarify something. I was talking about people tossing
boiling
>> >water as an EXTREME form of abusive behavior. No one has ever tossed
>> >boiling water at me in such a situation, though I brought it up
because I
>> >HAVE heard of it happening to others (friends of mine). I'd hate for
one
>> >of my friends from that church to one day see this thread and say,
"John!
>> >That didn't happen to YOU! It happened to Ralph and Mary!"
>>
>> >" IT DIDN'T HAPPEN TO ME!"
>>
>> Oh but it did according to you on Monday.
>>
>> *******************************************
>> I am saying when I knock on someone's door to present the gospel, a
"not
>> interested" is one thing, and I can take the hint. I've had that
happen a
>> hundred times.
>>
>> When the person opens the door and throws boiling water at me, and
then
>> lets loose the string of expletives I suggested earlier (that HAS
happened
>> to me), that is an indication of demonic activity.
>>
>>
***********************************************************************
>> Subject: Re: try as i may, i just can't like some Christians. Date:
Mon,
>> 07 Aug 2006 18:36:40 -0700
>> Message-ID: <pbqfd25r0qc6ikeoldbjddcbs09gtrsjte@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> has the critical information
>>
>> >I HAVE been repeatedly cursed out and have had doors slammed in my
face,
>> >but that didn't happen a LOT. Perhaps 3 times.
>>
>> >I just want to clarify that now that it's been mentioned several
times.
>>
>> In other words, you do not tell the lie you told, is that a correct
>> summarization of what you are claiming?
>>
>> >NO, no one ever threw boiling water at me! I merely used the
experience
>> >of a friend at church as an example.
>>
>> In other words, you had lied again, and someone was paying attention.
>>
>> >I HAVE had a bucket of ice water thrown at me, but only as a joke.
>>
>> The joke was on the bucket of water.
>>
>> > In fact, reading
>> >>your many earlier postings and rantings lends me to
>> >>believe that you are probably among the most despised
>> >>people on your block or neighborhood. How is it that
>> >>someone like you can be full of so much vinegar and
>> >>anger can still get up to breathe oxygen another day?
>>
>> >WOW! I have a new fan! However, I suspect that this is an old fan
using
>> >ANOTHER assumed sig.
>>
>> Well, that's one more than you ever had before.
>>
>> >((|))
>>
>> There, I corrected your smiley for you, was that not nice of me?
After
>> all, you would not want people to think you are not what you are, an
>> ordinary asshole hiding behind the cloak of being a xian and preaching
the
>> word of god.
>>
>> >Hi!
>>
>> You must be to post the tripe you post expect people to believe it.
>>
>> which wannabe this time jw, the totally befuddled individual that
cannot
>> keep his lies straight and is upset when others do?
>>
>> walksalone who has seen many tragedies in his life, but quite possibly
jw
>> being allowed access to the USENET is one of the worst.
>>
>>
>> --
>> The Hadith Qudsi 6
>>
>> The first of people against whom judgment will be pronounced on the
Day of Resurrection will be a
>> man who died a martyr. He will be brought and Allah will make known to
him His favours and he will
>> recognize them.
>>
>> The Almighty will say: And what did you do about them? He will say: I
fought for you until I died a
>> martyr. He will say: You have lied - you did but fight that it might
be said [of you]: He is courageous.
>> And so it was said.
>>
>> Then he will be ordered to be dragged along on his face until he is
cast into Hell-fire.
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Subject: Re: try as i may, i just can't like some Christians.
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On 9 Aug 2006 10:32:01 -0700, "christianbeauty"
<southernbelle729@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>your questions are not mere. they are exactly what any non believing
>demon would want to know. evidently you have a bad past..one with hurt
>and pain...am i right?...Im sorry that you are an idiot but please do
>not bring my parents in this..and if your parents had any sense when
>they were raising you( as if saying Satan had sense=he did question and
>try to take on God) they would have felt a little compassion for your
>lost soul(as i am trying to have) and help you. but maybe they just got
>sick of your idiotic comments and gave up..(which is what im not guna
>do) Sorry you are going to lose you may as well just quit posting!
rotflmao!
Go gitem, CB!
Yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy! CB!
:-)
>misanthropic_curmudgeon wrote:
>> christianbeauty wrote:
>>
>> > i dont need a crutch . im not a weak person. God builds me up.
>>
>> If your parents had taught you (a) basic coping mecahnisms to deal
with
>> the natural trauma of life and (b) self-esteem, you would not need
>> 'building up'.
>>
>>
>> > You are
>> > being used by Satan to bring me down
>>
>> Again, this is classic externalising: All things one cant cope with
are
>> not part of you, are bad, need to be pushed away.
>>
>> You should be aware that such externalising is a key aspect of many
>> mental illnessess.
>>
>>
>> > I dont need to believe in anything. I choose to because i
>> > believe in doing what is right. Jesus is what is right.
>>
>> This is bordering on circular reasoning.
>> Do you understand what circular reasoning is?
>>
>>
>>
>> > if my faith is wrong at least i didnt
>> > waste my life
>>
>> You would 'beleive' rather than question?
>> You would 'follow' rather than inquire?
>> And you would call my life a waste????
>>
>>
>>
>> > Get over your atheist thinking and
>> > stubborness and wake up bc you could die tomorrow.
>>
>> I find you calling stubborn interesting, and quite hypocritical, for
my
>> thoughts are flexiable: yours are founded in inflexibilty, and a
>> dogmatic adherence to them shows you are the stubborn one.
>>
>> I could die tommorrow, and I would do so knowing that I have lived
life
>> to the full. I would have thought, pondered, and explored, as opposed
>> to a shallow reciting of descredited mantras
>>
>>
>> I note you have still not addressed my questions: Does mere
>> questioning frighten or scare you?
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Subject: Re: try as i may, i just can't like some Christians.
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On 9 Aug 2006 10:36:56 -0700, "christianbeauty"
<southernbelle729@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>who are you to question someones faith? John is no saint . if he truly
>born again he righteous only in Christs eyes. and you are still a poor
>lost soul in Christs eyes. Maybe you should find faith before you find
>fault in others. no one is perfect...
Sorry, CB! :-(
Here I must correct you! Elaine is perfect! Just ask her!
;-)
john w
>NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:41:13 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> >I LONG ago left the Southern
>> >Baptists due to precisely that teaching and others.
>>
>> So what faith are you falsely claiming to be this week, weatherless?
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>
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Subject: Re: try as i may, i just can't like some Christians.
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:57:51 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 18:16:01 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>>I also have a different take on "vulgarity". I believe several
>>prophets got VERY vulgar, I believe Jesus got very vulgar, and I
>>believe Peter and Paul did as well.
>
>
>ENOUGH LIES.
>Like you were corrected B4------- YOU ARE NOT FIT TO TEACH ANYTHING
>CONCERNING THE BIBLE.
>
enuf of your filthy ranting, psycho*****!
you are not qualified to correct me on ANY level.
;-)
>
>redundant 'froups removed
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Subject: Re: Angry with People
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On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 08:58:57 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 09:12:15 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>> <witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>>
>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>>>> On 7 Aug 2006 15:53:16 -0700, "christianbeauty"
>>>> <southernbelle729@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>>> author
>>>>>John i think i love you..lol
>>>>
>>>> I'm flattered!
>>>>
>>>> blush.
>>>>
>>>> come back and tell me what you think after you turn 18.
>>>
>>>Have you been fantasizing that she's your sister?
>>
>> If you have no respect for yourself, or for the living, perhaps you
>> could show some respect for the dead.
>>
>> My sister died the night before the millennium, a year earlier.
>> December 31, 1999.
>
>Sorry, toots - Not psychic. Didn't know you had a sister much less that
she
>was dead.
Well, I have tried on multiple occasions to "move on" and be nice, and
YOU aren't having any!
On the SEVERAL occasions when you were BRIEFLY nice, I made every
attempt to reciprocate. Yet you always chose to go back to being nasty
for the FUN of it.
And you should know by now when you come in here for one purpose, to
find people to throw rocks at, eventually, you're going to hit
something!
I loved my sister DEARLY. She was one of my closest friends, and
there's a HUGE hole in my heart where she was.
When my mom died, I was briefly suicidal. When my sister died, I was
briefly suicidal AGAIN.
I know you think the bit about "*****" is funny, but I can ASSURE you
I didn't post that!
I certainly could explain/ and HAVE explained, how that LIKELY got
onto the Internet, and when it COMES to that, I will be HAPPY to
explain -- AND DEMONSTRATE what happened for a JUDGE.
IF you consider that --at that time-- I had DIALUP service, it's the
EASIEST thing to STOP a post by merely unplugging the phone, which is
what I did when I found the pedophile ON LINE and looking at ****!
He used MY account, with all the "plugged in" automatic text, my
signatures and everything, and I get left looking like a pervert!
Kindly leave my family members out of future insults.
Even if I were a mass murderer, that has nothing to do with my sister
or my son!
john w
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Subject: Re: Weatherlys latest Christian outburst - Judas Incarnate
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>
>"christianbeauty" <southernbelle729@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>> why is it disgusting to quote something that you or someone like you
>> with a mindset as small and leashed as your own would say? and maybe
>> you should follow it ..it would be one less of your type is here
>
>Honey, there's this little thing called a "killfile". Learn to use it.
Hey, cupcake! There's a thing called a "kill filter". Learn to use it!
;-)
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On 9 Aug 2006 11:00:01 -0700, "christianbeauty"
<southernbelle729@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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author
>why is it disgusting to quote something that you or someone like you
>with a mindset as small and leashed as your own would say? and maybe
>you should follow it ..it would be one less of your type is here
And by the way, CB, at least I used the asterisk ( * ) this time !! I
HAVE spelled it out the past!
"Bree" has used such remarks more than a few times and the names he's
called me and the crud he's accused me of!
tsk tsk.
(of course, monstrous behavior is ok if it's BREE doing it)
I personally think that Bree thinks WAY too much of himself!
Like the famous Paul Harvey said,
"oh, Bree! I'd LOVE to buy you for what you're worth, and then SELL
you for what you THINK you're worth! And then retire a wealthy man!"
>Bree wrote:
>> This man is disgusting
>>
>> Judas Iscariot incarnate!
>>
>>
>>
>> +++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>> In article <9isdd2d472v5a12e92t2kfgiqt88jr06g8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
>> <johnw<nospam>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Why don't you shut the f* up and go find some traffic to play in?
>>
>>
>> +++++++++++++++++
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On 9 Aug 2006 11:00:01 -0700, "christianbeauty"
<southernbelle729@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>why is it disgusting to quote something that you or someone like you
>with a mindset as small and leashed as your own would say? and maybe
>you should follow it ..it would be one less of your type is here
lol!!
You're beginning to get it, CB!
;-)
>Bree wrote:
>> This man is disgusting
>>
>> Judas Iscariot incarnate!
>>
>>
>>
>> +++++++++++++
>>
>>
>>
>> In article <9isdd2d472v5a12e92t2kfgiqt88jr06g8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
>> <johnw<nospam>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>
>> > Why don't you shut the f* up and go find some traffic to play in?
>>
>>
>> +++++++++++++++++
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Subject: Re: Religion-haters (was: Re: Judaism, not Islam, is the "best"
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:43:02 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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author
>On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:59:54 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>>You can always stop reading my posts, if they bore you so!
>>
>
>YOU could also stop reading mine, mental case. but you CAN'T . You're
>too paranoid to miss anything, and afraid.......
>
>>smirk
>^^^^^Yes- more idiocy noted!
I keep telling you, darlin'! You and a few others like Robib are my
daily laugh!
;-)
I am betting you can't find 2 people in this group who take you
seriously!
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Subject: Re: Mary's Commands for Catholics 1
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:41:26 -0700
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:44:43 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 13:14:43 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>smirk. I doubt if Mary's words were considered to be anything more
>>than a SUGGESTION. What "clout" or "authority" would a Jewish woman
>>in that time have had among 100 MALES?
>>Answer: NONE!
>
>>She had no "recognized authority" or even any "recognizable authority"
>>then; she most certainly has no "recognized authority" or even any
>>"recognizable authority" NOW!
>
>She didn't need authority. She was advising the stewards.
Oh, you Roman Catholics try SO hard to assert imaginary authority!
You know NOTHING of the ancient Jewish culture! Mary was a guest of
someone's! As I recall, she wasn't even a relative. I recall that
Jesus was attending the wedding of a friend, and he and his family
(mother, brothers, sisters) were all GUESTS.
He would have had NO status other than as a GUEST. Being a WOMAN in a
Patriarchal culture (that's one where MEN rule), Mary had NO status.
The servants did as she REQUESTED out of RESPECT for a guest, not out
of any COMPULSION.
At least SOME of them KNEW Jesus. He hadn't even worked any miracles
yet!
'
Her real stroke came
>when JESUS did as she advised.
smirk.
I am glad you revised the silliness to "she -- advised-- ".
That is ALL she did, nothing more!
>
>>Sometimes, you Roman Catholics CRACK ME U P with your blindness!
>
>You protest_ers
I'm not a "protester" dimwit. And if you don't want your Roman cult
insulted, don't insult non-Romans!
crack me up over your ignorance of Mary
What makes you think that I am "ignorant" of Mary? She was the mother
of the baby Jesus. What else is there to know?
, ARK of the New
>Covenant,
Where is that verse found? The one about the "Ark of the New
Covenant?"
I was just reading that silliness on a web page about "150 Reasons Why
I'm a Roman Catholic".
I'm now writing a response I am going to call "150 Reasons Why I am
NOT A Roman Catholic."
Mother of God, and Queen of Heaven.
She is NEITHER.
Otherwise, give me quotes from a NON_Roman Bible.
I'd THINK that after all these YEARS of you whackos proselytizing the
Baptist group, you'd have LONG since figured out,
"We ain't buyin' what you're sellin'! " ;-)
smirk.
Oh! And the Roman Catholic group went
< --------------------------- that away!
john w
>
>Haahaahaahaahaahaa.
>
>
>duke, American-American
>*****
>"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>Pope Paul VI
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Subject: Re: Mary's Commands for Catholics 1
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:34:23 -0700
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On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:26:17 -0400, "bam"
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> wrote:
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>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote
>
>> I DO find Jesus saying, "If you love me, obey ME!"
>
>
>Then how come you disobey Jesus?
?????
I don't know one single Christian-- never have-- who would say, " I
live a life of PERFECT obedience to Christ!"
The day Jesus said, "... but *I* say, if you so much as LOOK at a
woman and lust, you have ALREADY committed adultery!"
He showed us that NONE of us can live by the law.
Which is why He died on the cross at Calvary, to redeem us from the
sins we cannot help commit.
I don't know of a person alive who would say, " I have NEVER been
cornered / trapped into telling a lie!" Yet Heave has no room for
liars (that's in the epistles).
AGAIN, if it were up to us to "be perfect" our way into Heaven, Heaven
would be empty!
We do the best we can, and we daily call upon His grace when we
INEVITABLY fall short!
>
>> I don't find "IF
>> you love me, obey my mommy!"
>
>But you will find a command to honor one's father and mother. So Jesus
>honors Mary
AGAIN, you express nothing but BLINDNESS. You are a student of the
traditions of ROME; you are OBVIOUSLY not a serious student of the
Bible, regardless of the lies you have been told.
Jesus "obeyed" His mother on ONE RECORDED occasion that we know of. On
the OTHER RECORDED occasion where she DEMANDED that He "hop to and
comply", He sent her away with a rebuke.
At the feast, "His time had not come," and for reasons we will have to
ask Him one day, he complied with her request.
Once His ministry started, when she came to Him and DEMANDED He leave
what He was doing (ministering to a crowd in someone's home), He
rebuked her and sent her away.
"Lord, your mother is outside WITH YOUR BROTHERS, and she is INSISTING
that you come out and speak with her."
He replied, "Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?"
He refused to see her, thereby sending her on her way!
And I can even think of another passage where she rebuked Him PUBLICLY
for "being somewhere OTHER than" where she wished for Him to be.
Can you find it, or do you need me to lead you by the hand? Again?
- why shouldn't you?
#1 She isn't my mother.
#2 She's been dead now for over 2,000 years. What has Mary to do with
me?
>
>BAM
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>john w <johnw wrote:
>
>> Let's see, which state was it where the GOVERNOR, one George Wallace,
>> had the National Guard at his disposal, but REFUSED to obey a LAWFUL
>> U S Supreme Court order? To integrate?
>>
>> When the GOVERNOR breaks the law (I guess that's before YOUR time;
>> it's not before MY time)
>
>You should really crack open those history books, John.
I have to apologize and leave this for a few days.
I am recovering from a serious heart episode (Atrial Fib) recently,
and I am VERY foggy.
apologies.
>
>The incident you are refering to is Wallace's "Stand in the Doorway,"
>when he attempted to block access of two African-Americans (Vivian
>Malone and James Hood -- Malone became the first African-American to
>graduate from U of A, by the way). Deputy Attorney General Nicholas
>Katzenbach showed up with members of the U.S. Federal Marshalls, who
>would have arrested Wallace had he not stood aside and allowed the
>students access. The Alabama National Guard was on hand, but only to
>prevent a riot that very well could have broken out had things gone
>badly. The Marshalls were the law enforcement agents that handled the
>situation, and would have arrested anyone who blocked access.
>
>"See how that works? I knew you would!"
>
>> Why, then, didn't we send the Marines when we had that tsunami a
>> couple of years back ? (we did send the Marines)
>>
>> Why on EARTH didn't we send US Marines and the Airborne to LEBANON to
>> rescue some 20,000 US CITIZENS stranded in Lebanon when war broke out
>> a couple of weeks ago?
>
>Great, so my tax money is being used illegally, for missions that
>involve taking care of non-US citizens, or citizens that are stupid
>enough to go to a war zone. Great.
>
>How is it that other nations of the world can exist without having their
>armies flung around the world, but apparently we need to have every
>corner of the globe protected?
>
>> Yep! And one thing the Japanese and many other nations do is,"Be sure
>> that emergency first call you make for help is to the White House!"
>
>And we say, "sorry, no money for you. The generosity of American
>citizens giving private donations will have to suffice."
>
>By the way, in both the tsunamis and the devastation wrought by Katrina
>in New Orleans, it was private American charity that got there first and
>gave far more than federal aid was di****ng out. Americans are a very
>charitable people, whatever the popular stereotype is of the "greedy
>American." For example, for tsunami relief, the US Government pledged
>$950 million, while private donates doubled that at over $1.8 billion.
>
>In fact in New Orleans, the Red Cross and the Salvation Army were
>on-site with food, clothing and aid for the people almost immediately,
>and then FEMA put it's meddling nose in and tried to "federalize" the
>aid, bungled it totally, and the people of NO had to suffer far longer
>than necessary had the government stepped aside and let private charity
>deal with the crisis.
>
>> They may hate us, I will grant you THAT! (having lived/ been
>> stationed in SEVERAL foreign countries, I know that personally.
>>
>> When I was in England during Vietnam, I found out first hand that the
>> Brit on the street DESPISED Americans! (and me). When I was in Turkey
>> TDY, (where I saw the church), the Turks DESPISES Americans.
>>
>> HOWEVER, you forgot one detail! They MUST cooperate with us at some
>> VITAL levels (for both countries) if they want all those $$$ US to
>> keep flowing!!
>
>So the simple solution is "no money for you." Foreign aid is an
>unconstitutional practice that drains us of our vital resources. Trade,
>yes, aid, no. If people in the United States want to send private
>donations to various nations, that's their business, not mine. Why
>should my tax money subsidize nations that commit human rights
>violations on their people or impose tyrrany on them?
>
>> And the "Pre-emptive strike" on Iraq and on Afghanistan rewrote the
>> books on warfare!
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> And the President proved a vital point. His POWER as President
>> INCLUDES sending forces WHEREVER he believes they are needed, WITHOUT
>> advance permission. They may stay in the drop zone for like 90 days
>> BEFORE Congress authorizes it!
>
>Where exactly in the Constitution does the President get this power?
>
><snip TV quotes to end>
>
>Dan
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Subject: Re: Cease Fire
Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 13:32:27 -0700
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On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 05:52:44 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>x-no-archive: yes
>On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 05:16:41 GMT, "Daniel S. Vieira"
><email-in-sig@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>author
>>john w <johnw wrote:
>>
>> > By planning ahead, when we need a strike force of say 10,000 fully
>>> armed forces with equipment in Atlanta, Georgia, we don't have to
wait
>>> until they can be ****pped in from Las Vegas, Nevada.
>>
>>A "strike force" in Atlanta to do...what, exactly?
>
>I was giving the LOSEST of examples.
meant to say:
"the loosest of examples."
>
> Shoot Americans?
>>There is something called the "National Guard" that is deployed when
>>domestic emergencies happen, and they are to be under local law
>>enforcement agencies.
>
>I am fully aware of that. I served with National Guard when I went
>through boot camp and advanced training as a jet aircraft mechanic.
>
>>
>>What in the world are you talking about?
>
>What in the WORLD am I talking about?
>
>hehehe.
>
>Let's see, which state was it where the GOVERNOR, one George Wallace,
>had the National Guard at his disposal, but REFUSED to obey a LAWFUL
>U S Supreme Court order? To integrate?
>
>When the GOVERNOR breaks the law (I guess that's before YOUR time;
>it's not before MY time)
>
>Then the President must send in FEDERAL troops (US Army, Airborne
>Rangers) to enforce FEDERAL LAWs (a U S Supreme Court decision
>ordering integration would be one example)
>
>THAT, or the President is FULLY authorized to take command of the
>Guard! All he has to do is send in a FEDERAL (US Army) commander who
>OUTRANKS the local commander. IF the Guard commander is an LC, the
>President can send in a "Bird Col" to relieve him.
>
>See how that works?
>
>I knew you would!
>
>While YOu are preaching "crackpot theory", I've LIVED it, pal!
>
>
>>
>>> IF we have an emergency in Tokyo, and our nearest friendlies are in
>>> Tampa, Florida, "we're screwed."
>>
>>Why would "we" have an emergency in Tokyo?
>
>Do you understand (obviously, you do not) EXAMPLES?
>
>Why, then, didn't we send the Marines when we had that tsunami a
>couple of years back ? (we did send the Marines)
>
>Why on EARTH didn't we send US Marines and the Airborne to LEBANON to
>rescue some 20,000 US CITIZENS stranded in Lebanon when war broke out
>a couple of weeks ago?
>
>(we did send the Marines and the Airborne)
>
>Were you sleeping?
>
>Or just suffering HUA disorder?
>
>In fact, when the Marines got to Lebanon a couple of weeks ago, and
>they began evacuating THOUSANDS of Americans and foreign nationals
>( you mean we rescued NON-Americans??? OhMYGod!!)
>
>One Marine commander was INTERVIEWED (fancy THAT!) by the media. He
>was asked how he felt to have COMBAT troops in NON-combat roles?
>
>He said, 'we train for both, and I believe I can speak for my team
>when I say, we'd MUCH rather be RESCUING people than SHOOTING at
>them!"
>
> If there is a tsumani in
>>Tokyo, it's the repsonbility of the Japanese government to deal with
>>clean up,
>
>Yep! And one thing the Japanese and many other nations do is,"Be sure
>that emergency first call you make for help is to the White House!"
>
>
>not America's (although, I would imagine that millions in
>>private charity would pour out of the United States again like when the
>>tsuamis hit Indonesia.)
>
>You truly don't know what time of day it is!
>
>>
>>> And whether the President is a Right-wing conservative or a Left-wing
>>> Democrat, MOST of those troops on foreign soil will stay right where
>>> they are!
>>
>>Yes, working to protect foreign governments that hate us but wait to
get
>>the next check from Uncle Sam, and scream when it's late.
>
>smirk. "Right!"
>
>They may hate us, I will grant you THAT! (having lived/ been
>stationed in SEVERAL foreign countries, I know that personally.
>
>When I was in England during Vietnam, I found out first hand that the
>Brit on the street DESPISED Americans! (and me). When I was in Turkey
>TDY, (where I saw the church), the Turks DESPISES Americans.
>
>HOWEVER, you forgot one detail! They MUST cooperate with us at some
>VITAL levels (for both countries) if they want all those $$$ US to
>keep flowing!!
>
>;-)
>
>We certainly do tolerate the "mutual hate" so long as we are able to
>maintain our bases (and listening posts), and have 30,000 Marines and
>20,000 Airborne stationed there, "striking distance" from wherever
>they may be needed.
>
>Don't you understand that probably 6 MONTHS before we "officially
>invaded" Afghanistan OR Kuwait, we had sent in "Advance Teams"
>stationed in friendly countries to "prep the landing zone." ??
>
>>
>>Our borders and homeland need to be protected, not a bunch of screaming
>>deadbeats in Hammababbastan or wherever else we send our tax dollars.
>
>"Right!" And of course, FAR better to station our forces 500 miles
>from our coats than to station them SECRETLY IN the enemy camp.
>
>You simply don't get national defense.
>
>And the "Pre-emptive strike" on Iraq and on Afghanistan rewrote the
>books on warfare!
>
>;-)
>
>And the President proved a vital point. His POWER as President
>INCLUDES sending forces WHEREVER he believes they are needed, WITHOUT
>advance permission. They may stay in the drop zone for like 90 days
>BEFORE Congress authorizes it!
>
>
>That, sir, includes the power to launch a "Pre-emptive strike."
>
>That is, if I suspect you're about to punch me in the nose, I have
>EVERY right to hit you FIRST!
>
>I watch court TV sometimes. I heard a case about two guys who got into
>a brawling argument outside a bar. The one guy got tired of arguing
>and the threats of bodily harm from the drunk, and he decked the guy.
>All the witnesses had to say was "this drunk threatened the guy about
>5 times, and the guy got tired of being threatened, was afraid of
>being hurt, and hauled off and knocked the drunk on his keester!"
>
>The judge said, "if you threatened this guy (he did), he had EVERY
>right to punch your lights out!"
>
>George W Bush felt THREATENED, and he struck FIRST!
>
>
>;-)
>
>>
>>Dan
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Subject: Re: Cease Fire
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>In article <rqkjd295j24lbv0unfp8ljgiiji3kgqor2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 05:21:35 GMT, "Daniel S. Vieira"
>> <email-in-sig@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>> >Michael wrote:
>> >
>> >> When did the US military get the authorizaton to do rescue work
from the
>> >> Constitution? It is a nice thing to do, but it is not the
responsibility
>> >> of the US military to rescue folks from natural disasters.
>> >
>> >Actually, the US Military has no authorization to do anything
>> >domestically at all. In theory (although not in practice), military
>> >units *on military bases* are not supposed to even carry weapons
around
>> >less they are acting solely as security agents for the base. Even
when
>> >the National Guard is deployed, they are to work under local law
>> >enforcement agencies or with the feds as necessary, not doing
anything
>> >themselves.
>> >
>> An EXCELLENT point!
>
>The National Guard is a state organizaation, not a federal one.
I am going to leave this one for awhile. I have had serious heart
trouble for several days now, and it affecting my memory.
I have typed a few things that don't even make sense to ME!
apologies.
>
>>
>> And should you or anyone else be confused, it's not the "US Army" who
>> lead the way when we need to forcibly integrate schools in Little Rock
>> (happened in my lifetime, and I watched it live on TV)
>
>Why would it have been as that ancient incident had nothing to do with
the
>federal government.
>
>>
>> The US NATIONAL Guard was used!
>
>Actually it was the Arkansas State National Guard under the direction of
>the Governor of Arkansas.
>
>And I know about the Guard because
>> when I was in my boot camp and my advanced technical training (jet
>> aircraft mechanic), I trained with a dozen "Guard". Some of us
>> "regulars" looked down on them, but the drill instructors made it VERY
>> clear that we needed a "civilian militia" as well as soldiers. The
>> National Guard are intended to be the "trained civilian militia" under
>> STATE authority (NOT FEDERAL)
>
>Agreed, bananna republics usually have only one military with the
ability
>to take over government. The several branches of the federal forces are
a
>form of check and balance, as are the 50 state national guards.
>
>>
>> Sadly, when I made an allegorical point (the Guard IS-- in FACT -- the
>> US Army, but they are under STATE control, NOT federal) of "sending
>> the Marines to Alabama (or wherever)
>
>Are you saying that the people of Alabama elected an incompetent
governor
>who is incapable of leading the Alabama National Guard?
>
>>
>> someone took the liberty and op****tunity to make a cheap shot RATHER
>> than ask for clarification.
>
>IOW, your corrected comment has no relevancy to the subject of pulling
>federal troops from North Korea?
>
>>
>> I certainly didn't meant to be taken LITERALLY.
>
>IOW, you expect people to read your mind?
>
>>
>> ON THE OTHER hand
>>
>> >I don't know what planet John W is from, but maybe one of the stones
on
>> >"one of the churches Paul built" fell on his head and did a lot more
>> >damage than he realizes.
>>
>> "The church IS there!"
>>
>>
>> ON THE OTHER HAND, if Governor _____ of Nevada has a MAJOR emergency
>> on his hands, and he realizes that 5,000 fully armed NAtional Guard
>> (those at his command) are not adequate, he is totally free AND
>> authorized to call the White House and ask the President for 'Federal
>> Troops". Which is what happened (as I recall) at Waco.
>
>No one is disagreeing, after Nagan parked the busses and Blanco told
Bush
>everying was under her capable control and Louisiana didn't neeed any
>help, this shows the incompetence of the government of Louisiana, not
the
>federal government.
>
>>
>> The governor called for "Federal Troops", and some 1,000 Regular Army
>> showed up. (IIRC)
>
>OK, but what does that have to do with pre positioning troops around the
>world to help tsunami victims in Japan, in case there is one?
>
>>
>> IIRC it also happened when we integreated the high school / and
>> college in the South in the 50s.
>
>Ancient history.
>
>>
>> There's an old saying with us veterans, "When the RAs (Regular Army)
>> shows up, you know the s* has -- indeed-- hit the fan!
>>
>> There may only be 5,000 National Guard available,
>>
>> but when another 5,000 Airborne Rangers drop from the sky,
>>
>> and another 20,000 Marines drive up in Abrams tanks,
>>
>> "I'd SURRENDER!"
>
>Who wouldn't, but what does that have to do with pre positioning troops
>around the world to help tsunami victims in Japan, in case there is one?
>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >Dan
>>
>>
>> And thanks for the kind words, Dan! I LOVE it when you folk who
>> haven't been to Izmir, Turkey or to Little Stukeley, England
>>
>> tell me (or others) what's there and what's not there!
>>
>> Boy, fella, are YOU going to be embarrassed!
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> But-- don't worry! I don't expect you to ever apologize!
>>
>> You don't have that much character!
>>
>> :-)
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>> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:15:54 -0400, mikeburt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Michael)
>> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>> >In article <b1nhd2d78f8s85jb3pvai558ogc6ncdt2s@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
>> ><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >
>> >> x-no-archive: yes
>> >> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:16:36 GMT, "Daniel S. Vieira"
>> >> <email-in-sig@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> >> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the
>> >> author
>> >> >Michael wrote:
>> >> >> With everyone so focused on cease fires and troop withdrawals,
where are
>> >> >> the folks to advocate:
>> >> >
>> >> >> 1) a cease fire in Iraq to stop all of the terrorism
>> >> >
>> >> >Actually, the Iraqi government has done that, allowing full
amnesty for
>> >> >militias that agree to put their arms down. However, with the
militias
>> >> >seeing things like ****'ite death squads in towns like Basra, along
with
>> >> >the government security forces using Fedayeen style interrogation
>> >> >tactics, that's probably not going to happen any time soon.
>> >> >
>> >> >> 2) Pull out of troops in North Korea. After all, they have
already been
>> >> >> there for 60 years.
>> >> >
>> >> >I totally agree (meaning South Korea of course)! And get troops
out of
>> >> >all the myriad places in the world they are in and concentrate on
>> >> >keeping our homeland safe,
>> >>
>> >> Something you perhaps have not thought about.
>> >>
>> >> The reason-- once again-- that we have troops in so many diverse
>> >> places is to "infiltrate" hostile territory IN ADVANCE. And to be
>> >> where they may be needed for emergencies -- like aiding and
evacuating
>> >> flood / and tsunami victims. In advance of the emergencies.
>> >
>> >
>> >Where in the Constitution is a standing army authorized for the
purposes
>> >of aiding and evacuating foreign nationals from alien disasters?
>> >
>>
>> ???
>>
>> Where in the Constitution is it authorized for Catholic high school
>> students to ride the PUBLIC school buses?
>
>The Constition is not communistic law where everything not specifically
>allowed is prohibited, it is a Christian Common Law do***ent where a
>anything not prohibited is allowed.
>
>
Last I heard, it was illegal to provide public funds to private
schools. (since my son goes to a private high school, I know something
about that)
If the public school buses are made available to private (Catholic)
school children, that is essentially public dollars funding private
education trans****tation.
And I KNOW this is how the law works because in OTHER states where I
have brought this up (Wa****ngton, for one), I have been told
#1 it isn't happening/ didn't happen; you are therefore MISTAKEN (no
mistake)
#2 that's ILLEGAL!
( I already knew / know it's illegal, which is why I brought it up
to begin with)
>>
>> Yet that is EXACTLY what is happening (or was) when I was in high
>> school in the 60s in Maryland!
>
>During the life the Founding Fathers, prayers opened Congree and the
Court
>(and still do),
Last I heard there are no public $$$s being paid to someone to pray in
Congress or at the Court.
In fact, I take that back. HOWEVER, you should know that the
government is IMMUNE from the laws it p***** for the rest of us!
Congress p***** dumb laws every year that our Senators and
Congressmen/women are not subject to!
they opened all public school days which is not prohibited
>by the 1st amendment, in fact, the Constitution ratified in the Year of
>America's Lord 1787 purpose was to prevent Congree from ending prayerin
>public schools.
You have changed the subject.
>
>>
>> Don't throw the Constitution at me!
>
>Perhaps you haven't read it.
smirk.
YOu keep dodging!
>
>>
>> If you were a tourist in Tokyo when a 100 foot tsunami-generated tidal
>> wave hit, and you needed help NOW, I don't think you'd be terribly
>> upset and scream "CONSTITUTION" when 20,000 US Marines ran ashore and
>> dropped from the sky to elp an hour later.
>
>Didn't say that I would. If there were there, that wold be a nice thing
to
>do. It is not their job to be there just in case there is another
>tsunami.
No, they are there because Japan is an ally, and they allow us space
to put bases there which also benefit the Japanese (both for national
defense and the local economy)
For being so educated, I see no indication of any education.
>
>>
>> Nor would you be so narrow minded as to yell, "Don't help that JAP!
>> You're here to help Yankees ONLY!"
>
>True, but that is quite off topic to the subject.
Another dodge!
Yawn!
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>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>> Sure he could have, if God-- who sees the future-- told Daniel what to
>> write.
>>
>> Nor did Daniel understand what he was writing!
>
>
>So who is a prophet, Daniel or Nostradamus ?
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>
>;-)
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>
chuckle, Phar Lap
The only "prophets" of which I am aware are the prophets (Daniel,
Ezekiel, Joshua, Jonah, Elijah, etc) of the Bible's Old Testament.
Nostradamus would not qualify. (many of his notions were disproved;
many were so vague as to be laughable)
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Subject: Re: Mary's Commands for Catholics 1
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>Mary's Commands for Catholics 1
>
>
>In the gospel of St. John we read of the marriage feast in Cana. Here
>Mary emphasizes the im****tantce of Jesus, her son, and the words that He
>speaks.
>
>Realizing that the wine was gone, and that she herself could not do
>anything, she tells Jesus, the ONLY ONE who could do something. Mary
then
>gives the servants A COMMAND, one that we all should consider: "His
mother
>saith unto the servants, WHATSOEVER HE SAITH UNTO YOU, DO IT." (John
2:5).
>
smirk. I doubt if Mary's words were considered to be anything more
than a SUGGESTION. What "clout" or "authority" would a Jewish woman
in that time have had among 100 MALES?
Answer: NONE!
She had no "recognized authority" or even any "recognizable authority"
then; she most certainly has no "recognized authority" or even any
"recognizable authority" NOW!
>
>This is the only recording in the Bible where Mary gives a command, so
>most certainly all Roman Catholics should take heed to her
>words..."WHATSOEVER HE SAITH UNTO YOU, DO IT."
Let me guess; you're a Roman Catholic, aren't you?
;-)
chuckle.
>
>Since the goal of all good Roman Catholics is to get to heaven, let us
>look in the Bible and do what Mary said to do; see what Jesus said what
to
>do and do it.
I DO find Jesus saying, "If you love me, obey ME!" I don't find "IF
you love me, obey my mommy!"
Nor do I find 'If you love my mommy, do what she commands!"
lol!!
rotfl!!
Sometimes, you Roman Catholics CRACK ME U P with your blindness!
chuckle.
john w
>
>Next: What Jesus says and what He did not say.
>
>
>Reference: http://www.baptistlink.com/godandcountry/html/maryscommand.0
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Subject: Re: Jesus was crucified April 25, 31 AD
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>"Dr Min PhD ThD" <anon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>> As a matter of incontrovertible scriptural, profane historical
>> and astronomical fact, Jesus Christ was crucified at about 9 AM
>> LAT Wednesday April 25, 31 AD
>
>Oh dear... A nutter who doesn't understand that it wasn't until nearly
>500 years later
Phar Lap, you TRULY should shut your pie-eating apparatus until you
have personally paid a visit to the Izmir church (if your demons will
allow you to go)
;-)
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>On 9 Aug 2006, "Peace Crusader" <acfernando@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>When was Jesus crucified?
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>As a matter of incontrovertible scriptural, profane historical
>and astronomical fact, Jesus Christ was crucified at about 9 AM
>LAT Wednesday April 25, 31 AD; He died about 3 PM LAT that same
>day, and his horribly tortured dead body was entombed well after
>sunset commencing the high sabbath (15 Nisan).
Thanks for the "impeccable" proof! :-)
I shall continue to trust the accounts of the eye-witnesses (found in
the gospels)
This is precisely
>and *thoroughly* do***ented
"I'm sure it is. "
john w
in my 'Historical Calendar of Jesus',
>which is free and available on-line in the popular "PDF" format,
>and is permanently archived on the Google Groups server, and on
>the U.S. Federal Government Net archives (pending public domain):
>
> http://www.freewebs.com/danieljosephmin/Mins_Historical_Calendar_Of_Je
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>Enjoy!
>Daniel Joseph Min
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> *Download Min's Banned (Freeware) Books:
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>Yesterday my friends came over and gave me a plant. It was a Bleeding
>Heart. It's such a pretty plant, the flowers white with red tips. It's
>now in the ground and next year should be pretty lush.
>
>Do conservatives plant bleeding hearts in their yards?
No conservatives pave over their yards with asphalt, park three or
four SUV's on the yard (doesn't matter whether or not it is the front
or back yard), and drink beer while chattering about how great America
has become under George Bush.
Then they go to church, perhaps a little tipsy, talk incessantly about
how abortion is so bad, rant about women reproductive rights, gay
equality, and how the NRA has saved America. They are goaded on by
Baptist bible-thumpers. Hallelujah.
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>In article <AQSBg.1343$Qf.1123@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>> I post for help, for genuine guidance, and this is what I get:
supposed
>> experts bickering and posturing over each other.
>>
>> Anyone else have any thoughts that are on topic?
>
> the problem is that John Weatherly disrupts every thread.
Actually, Mike, I suggest that you stop and take notice. You asked for
SPIRITUAL help, SCRIPTURAL help,
and now "Bree" is trying to REDIRECT you.
Why would he do that?
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