>
>
>
>> I have news for you!
>
>
> It probably isn't news I would want to hear,
> just another of your damned lies......I really
> get tired of you lying all the time. You should
> learn to write some good sci fi or fantasy and
> get the lying crap out of your system.
>
>
>
> Rod
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:23:44 -0700
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On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:04:27 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 15:09:04 GMT, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:38:16 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(RedFox)
wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> In article <1185736746.069847.114220@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>>>> "<~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>"
>>>>> <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> No, you're the one in denial - about so many things (including who
you
>>>>>> really are, which is why you protest against me, my "lifestyle"
and
>>>>>> call me demeaning, ***ually harassing names as much as you do).
>>>>> Cutting through all this I just spent lunchtime with a friend and
>>>>> neighbour who is gay. She has just broken up with her partner.
>>>>>
>>>>> The real abomination in Christianity is the bigotry that bases
itself on
>>>>> antiquated theology -
>>>> the theology of Christianity is solid.
>>> Cough...cough...choke! The dead raising from the grave is
>>> SOLID ??
>>
>> The correct verb would be, "The dead RISING from the grave...."
>
> I'm sorry, how inconsiderate of me. "The dead rising from the
grave",
> is that better ?
>
>
>>
>> Prove He didn't.
>
> That isn't necessary, or for that matter possible
> to prove
>
>
>
>
>> HUNDREDS of eyewitnesses saw Him die. Hundreds of
>> eyewitnesses saw Him alive several days later.
>
> I don't care if 5000 people saw Him turn back flips
> and cartwheels.
It is utterly astounding how you go to such pains to turn such a
profound moment in history into a crude, flippant comment.
The key words in your statement above would actually be, (as I've
said REPEATEDLY) your words:
"I don't care..."
You simply do not care if He died on Friday afternoon and if He
rose again on Sunday morning.
You "do not care."
That is the truth of it, as I've suggested NUMEROUS times.
"You do not care!"
>
>
>
>
>>
>> There can be only one explanation, if one has actually bothered to
>> STUDY the issue historically.
>> A whole lot of people (hundreds) died rather than say, "No, I didn't
>> see Him after He rose from the dead!"
>> Why would they rather be executed than recant?
>>
>> They wouldn't!
>
> You don't get the point I'm trying to make. Rising from the grave
> isn't a solid science, or a solid anything for people. It's hard to
> accept on face value, thats asking an awful lot of people!
What makes you think I "don't get the point" you're trying to make?
You seem to think that YOU are the ONLY one who is capable of making a
point!!
You're not!
I am saying, If Jesus died on Friday, and LITERALLY rose the 3rd
day, it MATTERS.
You-- pal-- are absolutely UNWILLING to deal with that issue!
And that event is so im****tant to the WORLD that time is divided by
the day He rose.
Yet it doesn't matter to YOU!
Because, in the final analysis, you're a petty little person.
I have said, and I say to YOU, Jesus could come today, and He could
knock on your front door. You could open your door and find Him
levitating a foot off the ground. He could show you His scars and He
could say, "BELIEVE!"
All YOU would do is slam the door in His face and yell, "LEAVE ME
ALONE!"
>>
>> And you and I sincerely have nothing to say to each other!
>
> I wasn't aware that you had dedicated yourself to making
> me happy ?
>
>
>
>>
>> Your comments indicate NO serious study, but a MOUNTAIN of unfounded,
>> baseless, unproven ASSUMPTIONS.
>
> I think I should go to Vera from now on if I want to
> speak with you.
>
>>
>> And you laugh and poke your middle finger at HUNDREDS/ THOUSANDS of
>> years of SERIOUS scholar****p!
>
> At serious scholar****p ? No. At you ? Since when is anything you do
> called "scholar****p" ? You're not worth the effort it would take to
> raise my middle finger.
>
> Okay, this week you're a scholar. What will you be next week ? Pope
> Gregory II,or Rumpelstiltskin ?
>
> Rod
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: The Topic is Mr. John Weatherly
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:12:11 -0700
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 22:52:41 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybeck61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
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>On Aug 2, 10:09 pm, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> She then called me a narcissist.
>
>You are
tsk tsk
And if I acted similarly towards YOU, you'd be IRATE!
snip
enough!
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Here's more proof where liatrjohnnie claimed Jesus 'sloshed'
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:02:00 -0700
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On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 10:29:15 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:38:06 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> You asked for it, old liar johnnie- here it is.
>>>
>>> Re: Here's more proof where liatrjohnnie claimed Jesus 'sloshed'
>>
>> ^ ^ I see you now backtrack. I caught you in a LIE!
>> (again)
>>
>> Yesterday you claimed that I said Jesus was a drunk!
>>
>> I never said that.
>>
>> Today, you LIE and change the wording of your accusation.
>>
>> "BAD GIRL!"
>>
>> God's gonna punish you for your lying!
>>
>>>
>>> QUOTE:
>>>
>>> From: John Weatherly <john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
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>>>
>>>> heehe!!!
>>>> Dunno!!! ALL of the Baptist pot lucks that I have attended never had
>>>> spirits of any kind other than the HOLY Spirit.......... no hootch,
>>>> nothing!!!!!!
>>> Me, neither. They go to GREAT lengths to keep from the flock that
>>> Christ actually made wine and then DRANK it! Oh! Shock!
>>> I can show you where Jesus sloshed!
>>> In Christ!
>>>
>>> John W
>>
>> I have never denied that I said the above! ^ ^
>>
>> YOU claimed yesterday that I said Jesus got DRUNK, or that He was a
>> DRUNK!
>> That's a lie.
>
> No, actually it is not a lie.
Yes, it was a lie! I didn't use the word "drunk."
To slosh is assigned a derogatory
>meaning by commonality,
^^ ^ WHAT?
You're going to be even MORE absurd than normal and tell me what I
meant to say?
"Rod" / Elaine, you grow more ridiculous with every passing day!
and in saying that you referred to him AS
>a drunkard.
Lie! And you're a liar!
It may not have been deliberate on your part,
???
I didn't call Jesus a liar, and you are AGAIN being a total jerk.
but it
>WAS ignorant and you DID LIE>
???
You are EXTREMELY stupid, and now you are giving even MORE proof
that you are Elaine!
"lie" by DEFINITION is DELIBERATE!
You can't say I said something by ACCIDENT and then call it a lie!
Stupid person!
>
>
> Now deal with the guilt....
??????? What "guilt?"
You know what, stupid person! Never mind!
>
>
> Rod
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Concerning the actions of Mr. Weatherly
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:58:22 -0700
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:48:07 -0400, Peter Winslow <peter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>Just returned back from a conference, and I notice that you, Mr.
>Weatherly, are still posting as rudely as before.
>
>Your vile language is on the increase,
Actually, that's not true.
and your lies continue to form a
>pile that no person should be proud to brag about.
What lies?
>
>You still refer to females as *****es.
Occasionally, I call some *****y females "*****."
There are worse words I could use. I don't.
>You are still posting threats.
???
>
>I think it best to re-contact 800 Jefferson Street's administration team
>and remind them of how you are giving the Elder Health home such a bad
name.
smirk.
"Go for it!"
>
>Something needs to be done about you.
Something needs to be done about YOU!
Maybe I'll call the Army and arrange a hit team!
:-)
>
>Pete
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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Another JW lie exposed!
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:54:20 -0700
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wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 17:24:57 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> You are a liar, and you are killfiled!
>
>
>I won't hold my breath, liar short-bus johnnie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Changed my mind!" like you do so often!
;-)
(if you can, I can, you pathological LIAR!)
>
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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Another JW lie exposed!
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:53:13 -0700
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 09:55:29 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(RedFox) wrote:
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>>In article <8fu6b396n3smtbdaa9aa58o7l6ev5uhgn0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
>><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I can recall when you once discussed Christian topics.
>>>
>>
>>I have NEVER seen you discuss a Christian topic John
>>
>>YOu shout and scream and pout and sulk - throw things and accuse people
of
>>being demoniac if they don't agree with the crap your deranged mind
labels
>>as "Christianity " - ChristINSANITY more like!
>>
>>As far as Christian discussion are you are a piece of trolling ****
>>
>>Had enough of you
>>
>>Were I Elaine I really would have your arse in court on a libel charge
-
>>seek to make it criminal libel and demand you have a psychiatric
>>*****sment
>>
>>Why don't you crawl back under the rock
>
>Liar-johnnie isn't worth the effort, Redfox.
smirk.
I'm betting YOU are, Queen Liar Elaine!
> His feeble attempts at trying to have my license to practice
>'revoked' was all hogwash.
Don't count chickens that haven't hatched yet!
HAD my license ever been questioned, the
>College would have notified me well in advance in order to allow me to
>prepare do***entation, witness to allegations, etc!
Actually, I wrote two letters, but you "put the fix in", which means
you simply jeopardized the careers of those foolish enough to "cover
your ass!"
Now, when I DO drag your ASS into court, there will be half-a-dozen or
so conspirators (your "buddies") who will be called to answer for why
they didn't do something about YOU!
;-)
He was all mouth
>and no action. He had no action because he had nothing to go on.
As is usual, you're a LIAR.
But you know that!
>
>Anyone wi****ng to check with the College will quickly learn I have an
>untarnished history,
"So far!"
But once a dozen of the patients you ABUSED are interviewed, you may
well spend some time in PRISON!
;-)
much to liar-johnnie's chagrin.
>
>
>He CLAIMED he would have my license pulled....... yes----- but the
>poor fool
^ ^ that's libel!
had nothing but his LIES to back him up. ''Needless to say,
You DID say when you were working that QUITE a few (I don't recall
you giving a #) of your patients were "faking it." That's not for you
to say!
>I retired quite gracefully last year, from the profession which I
>chose and worked diligently at since 1974.
I CAN ensure that you never get back into the profession!!
Shall we see if I can?
;-)
>
>The crud isn't WORTH trying to sue, since he was unable to do me any
>personal harm, either to profession or reputation.
>
> But thanks for your concern. :o)
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Another JW lie exposed!
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 23:48:52 -0700
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(RedFox) wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>In article <8fu6b396n3smtbdaa9aa58o7l6ev5uhgn0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>>
>> I can recall when you once discussed Christian topics.
>>
>
>I have NEVER seen you discuss a Christian topic John
>
>YOu shout and scream and pout and sulk - throw things and accuse people
of
>being demoniac if they don't agree with the crap your deranged mind
labels
>as "Christianity " - ChristINSANITY more like!
>
>As far as Christian discussion are you are a piece of trolling ****
>
>Had enough of you
>
>Were I Elaine I really would have your arse in court on a libel charge -
>seek to make it criminal libel and demand you have a psychiatric
>*****sment
>
>Why don't you crawl back under the rock
I'll believe you have finally succeeded in hurting my feelings!
.......
Nope! I was wrong!
And if YOU weren't TROLLING, Phar Lap, you wouldn't need to worry
your psycho self about my posts!
;-)
demoniac!
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Hello--I'm new to the group
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:19:34 -0700
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>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:53:48 -0400, John Henry <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:45:13 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:11:56 -0400, John Henry
<johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:02:52 -0000, jknbt2
>>>>>>> <TRINITYONLINEBIBLESTUDY@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>> Hello--
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm new to the group--Hi to all...I'm from Baytown, Tx, USA,
work in a
>>>>>>>> chem plant as a tech, about to mold with all the rain-rain-and-
more-
>>>>>>>> rain this goofy global warming is causing....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> anyhow, I just put up a cool web site (little graphix, lotsa
text) on
>>>>>>>> the subject of the Trinity...see:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://trinityonlinebiblestudy.googlepages.com/home
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's still so new that the web crawler probably hasn't found it
yet...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> anyhow, I have some insights to share on the Trinity...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> discussion invited...
>>>>>>> Okay.
>>>>>>> I see several problems right off the bat.
>>>>>> You do? But three days ago you said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "YOU, however, are such a jackass that you will jump in and skin
>>>>>> someone at the very outset, when if you BOTHERED to read to the
end,
>>>>>> he's agreeing with you!"
>>>>>> ---John Weatherly (07/24/2007)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you ever read what you write?
>>>>> Mis-applied bad advice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just because your car would look good painted read doesn't mean
>>>>> your face would!
>>>> Sorry! Typo. Should say:
>>>>
>>>> Just because your car would look good painted red doesn't mean
>>>> your face would!
>>>>
>>> "Okay. I see several problems right off the bat" (07/27/2007 - you
>>> speaking from one side of his mouth).
>>>
>>> "YOU, however, are such a jackass that you will jump in and skin
someone
>>> at the very outset" (07/24/2007 - AND you speaking from the other
side
>>> of his mouth).
>>>
>>> Why did you jump right in, hmm?
>>
>> J H, I will never live long enough to come up with a lower blow than
>> you can! I just don't lower myself like you will!
>>
>> "You win!" Low blow World Champion!
>
>In other words, you can't explain why it's suddenly OK for you to "jump
>in and skin someone at the very outset" AFTER strongly implying that I
>shouldn't, huh?
????????
I've explained it multiple times already, John! You're just too
DAMN stupid to get it, you small-town country HICK!
>>
>> (Jesus is just so .... PROUD of you right now)
>
>And now you're pretending to actually know what He's thinking?
"That's"
>really "rich!"
>>
>>> "I admit to not having read the entire page" (07/27/2007 - you
speaking
>>>from one side of his mouth).
>>> "I frequently read an entire post" (07/24/2007 - AND you speaking
from
>>> the other side of his mouth).
>>>
>>> What happened to your frequently reading the entire thing, hmm?
>>>>>> Do you ever do what you write?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I admit to not having
>>>>>>> read the entire page, but I saw some issues immediately.
>>>>>> You do? But three days ago you said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The point is, I frequently read an entire post to see where it's
>>>>>> going."
>>>>>> ---John Weatherly (07/24/2007)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you ever read what you write?
>>>>>> Do you ever do what you write?
>>>>>>> For some reason, there are some today who insist on using the
KJV
>>>>>>> rather extensively. And since they use the KJV, they use the
archaic
>>>>>>> language whether they realize it or they don't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IF we can call Jesus "Jesus" and not "Yeshua" (as did the 1st C
>>>>>>> Christians and Jews), then we have "modernized" the name of our
Lord.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we can modernize the name of our Lord to "Jesus" and not
"Yeshua",
>>>>>>> then we should likewise be permitted to modernize the name of the
3rd
>>>>>>> Person of the Trinity, as "The Holy Spirit" and NOT "The Holy
Ghost",
>>>>>>> which was the terminology of the King James scholars.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You use "The Holy Ghost" rather extensively, as what APPEARS to
be
>>>>>>> "the preferred name/title." I don't think a real case can be
made
>>>>>>> that the proper nomenclature of the 3rd Person is "The Holy
Ghost."
>>>>>>> Also, as another pointed out the other day, today, the word
"ghost"
>>>>>>> has very negative connotations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To move along, I believe you mis-use the term "The Godhead". It's
my
>>>>>>> understanding (I'm not a scholar familiar with the languages),
but I
>>>>>>> understand from my study WITH scholars that "The Godhead" is NOT
a
>>>>>>> reference to "God", so much as it's a reference to the collective
>>>>>>> "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hence, as you are trying to defend the Trinity doctrine, Col 2
>>>>>>> becomes a POWERFUL statement (and I've checked this with numerous
>>>>>>> scholars), that Jesus Christ was the Father, the Son, and the
Holy
>>>>>>> Spirit, ALL in flesh.
>>>>>>> That is, ALL that God could be in human flesh, Jesus Christ
was.
>>>>>>> Jesus Christ was NOT JUST the Son. Jesus was the Son, He was
The
>>>>>>> Father, and He was The Holy Spirit all wrapped up in human flesh
and
>>>>>>> bone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> God bless, and thanks for making the effort!
>>>>>> *Skin 'em, bless 'em, and thank 'em!*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> JohnHenry
>>>>>>> john weatherly
>>>>>>>> see ya!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jay
>>
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Hello--I'm new to the group
Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 21:18:26 -0700
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>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:16:15 -0400, John Henry <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:37:11 -0400, John Henry <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 11:11:56 -0400, John Henry
<johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 02:02:52 -0000, jknbt2
>>>>>>>> <TRINITYONLINEBIBLESTUDY@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>>> Hello--
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm new to the group--Hi to all...I'm from Baytown, Tx, USA,
work in a
>>>>>>>>> chem plant as a tech, about to mold with all the rain-rain-and-
more-
>>>>>>>>> rain this goofy global warming is causing....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> anyhow, I just put up a cool web site (little graphix, lotsa
text) on
>>>>>>>>> the subject of the Trinity...see:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://trinityonlinebiblestudy.googlepages.com/home
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's still so new that the web crawler probably hasn't found it
yet...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> anyhow, I have some insights to share on the Trinity...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> discussion invited...
>>>>>>>> Okay.
>>>>>>>> I see several problems right off the bat.
>>>>>>> You do? But three days ago you said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "YOU, however, are such a jackass that you will jump in and skin
>>>>>>> someone at the very outset, when if you BOTHERED to read to the
end,
>>>>>>> he's agreeing with you!"
>>>>>>> ---John Weatherly (07/24/2007)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you ever read what you write?
>>>>>> Mis-applied bad advice.
>>>>> Uh-huh, yet you keep giving it.
>>>>>> Just because your car would look good painted read doesn't mean
>>>>>> your face would!
>>>>> How long have the MAACOs in Seattle been carrying "read" paint? Oh
>>>>> look, not only is your face painted "read," but it now has egg on
it,
>>>>> too. [Scrambled, right?]
>>>> Wow! Do YOU go ape over a typo!
>>> You're a journalist, professional writer, and aspiring author, so you
>>> will always be held to a much higher standard. Get used to it.
>>
>> From YOU?
>
>Am I the only one here correcting you?
>>
>> LOL!!
>> roll on floor laughing.
>> How come I'm such a LIAR, but you NOW BELIEVE that I'm a journalist,
>> a professional writer, and an aspiring author?
>
>If proof was ever needed that journalists, professional writers, and
>aspiring authors are not without their liars, you'd be it.
You have yet to prove that I'm a liar, dirtbag.
And you MAY just have to!
Don't forget, asshole, when it comes time to serve your ass, I know
WHO you are, and I know WHERE you are!
;-)
john w
> >
>> As for "a higher standard", I wasn't aware that you'd gone past
>> 9th grade.
>
>You aren't aware, period.
>>
>>>> I understand! That helps you sidestep the REAL issue!
>>> You can't even understand that you were just do***ented being a total
>>> hypocrite again,
>>
>> By YOU? The BIGGEST HYPOCRITE in ARCB?
>> that's rich!
>
>And you're projecting and being delusional.
>>
>> [but *everyone* does understand that you have REAL issues.]
>>>>>>> Do you ever do what you write?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I admit to not having
>>>>>>>> read the entire page, but I saw some issues immediately.
>>>>>>> You do? But three days ago you said:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The point is, I frequently read an entire post to see where it's
>>>>>>> going."
>>>>>>> ---John Weatherly (07/24/2007)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you ever read what you write?
>>>>>>> Do you ever do what you write?
>>> <snip>
>>
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>
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Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
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>On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:27:31 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> On THAT, we agree!
>>
>> john w
>
>
>'You' have NO opinion to offer, short bus.
Who in the HELL do YOU think YOU are to call ME "retarded?"
That's about as low as you can crawl, Elaine!
>Now take your meds, hug Teddy, and go beddies. there's a good little
>fellow.
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Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 05:18:09 GMT, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 11:50:57 -0700, "<~(Hey,
>> WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> On Jul 30, 11:43 am, Rod <kc0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually John, few people in my life have been as nice as
Elaine
>>>> is regardless of my beliefs, and would very much like to hug
her
>>>> for being such a good person and friend.
>>>> Yes John, I'd like to squeeze you until your fricking
>>>> skull explodes and your ribs SNAP!!like twigs on hot summer day
!@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> You're a sick, sick man, Rod.
>>
>> On THAT, we agree!
>>
>> john w
>>
>>
>
> Oh the irony.......
"Oh! The irony!"
You think just because you can point your finger at me (in your
rage) and say, "that guy's odd!" that then you can say You're not?
tsk tsk
Just because you've noticed your neighbor's car is blue doesn't mean
YOUR car can't also be blue!
You pretend to be smart, Rod, but actually, you're pretty dumb!
Dumb and self-absorbed!
It would simply never occur to you in 1 BILLION years that anyone
else has had it tough!
Nope! You're the ONLY one!
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday, Scout Lady
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 23:13:08 -0700
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 10:19:17 -0400, "Col. Sneak"
<colsneak@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 22:17:05 -0400, John Henry <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Fri, 03 Aug 2007 12:42:12 -0400, John Henry <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 08:31:13 -0400, John Henry
<johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>> May it be one of your best, if not the best, ever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JohnH
>>>>>> I am amazed! You would call her a heretic to her face, John H!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But her birthday comes, and you GUSH!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hypocrite!
>>>>> I've called Scout Lady a heretic?
>>>> I didn't say ^ ^ that!
>>> Then what did you mean?
>>
>> ????? Why are you asking me? You're one of the ones who tells ME
>> what I meant!
>>
>>
>>>> AGAIN, you prove that you are hysterical, given to exaggeration,
and
>>>> a LIAR!
>>>> And the truth isn't in you!
>>> Projection!
>>
>> Actually, John H, that's simply too convenient! I was talking about
>> YOU!
>>
>> I didn't say what you said I said! I cracked a joke, which YOU chose
>> to take VERY literally, and then you FALSELY ACCUSED me (as usual)
>
>tell us again the the joke about the church with the cornerstone, that's
a good one...
Which church are you referring to, General Agar?
There were two that I saw with cornerstones.
??? But one thing is puzzling! I don't remember telling a joke about
either church!
Are you always this stupid, or do you work at it?
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: A Serious Challenge
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:47:31 -0700
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:53:33 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:50:54 -0700, "<~(Hey,
>WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybeck61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>On Aug 6, 1:51 pm, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>> I suggest you both get your own behavior and attitudes in check,
and
>>> stop worrying about MINE!
>>>
>>> Hint: Neither of you can control ME, no matter how you wish you
>>> could!
>>> The only person either of you can control is yourself!
>>
>>Gee, what happened to the following:
>>
>>Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
>>From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:46:06 -0700
>>Local: Mon, Aug 6 2007 1:46 pm
>>Subject: Re: A Serious Challenge
>>
>>> Don't expect me to read or respond to your rants
>>> anymore.
>>
>>> john w
>>
>>Changed your mind in 5 minutes or less, did ya?
>
>
>He always does, Kelly!
You're gossiping again!
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: A Serious Challenge
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:47:01 -0700
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:50:54 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybeck61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Aug 6, 1:51 pm, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> I suggest you both get your own behavior and attitudes in check, and
>> stop worrying about MINE!
>>
>> Hint: Neither of you can control ME, no matter how you wish you
>> could!
>> The only person either of you can control is yourself!
>
>Gee, what happened to the following:
>
>Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
>From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:46:06 -0700
>Local: Mon, Aug 6 2007 1:46 pm
>Subject: Re: A Serious Challenge
>
>> Don't expect me to read or respond to your rants
>> anymore.
>
>> john w
>
>Changed your mind in 5 minutes or less, did ya?
Yep!
Women change their minds 50 times a day. Why can't men?
You are also making a HUGE assumption! (pathological people tend
to live their lives based on their false ASSUMPTIONS; making your
activities CLASSICALLY pathological)
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: A Serious Challenge
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:45:20 -0700
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 14:57:21 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybeck61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Aug 6, 1:46 pm, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> ??? "Gloat?"
>> That I pointed out your own words to you is "gloating?"
>
>Yep. You were reveling in the attention and you know it.
>
>> You are a sociopath.
>
>You still don't know what the term "sociopath" means, do you?
>
>> "Oh, sure, I admit! I'm doing bad! But I plan to continue."
>> You are living with unresolved RAGE.
>> And anyone (me) who pisses you off becomes an object of it!
>> You are just so **** MAD, that you refuse to admit YOUR fault!
>> For YOU, "it's always the other guy who makes you so MAD you could
>> just...."
>
>You really should stop projecting the diagnoses your shrinks give you
>onto other people.
You are now PRETENDING you know what my psychiatrist and I talk
about.!!!
It seems like everytime you get back from one of
>your lengthy sessions you always have plenty of advice for everyone
>else that's really meant for you.
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: A Serious Challenge
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:44:22 -0700
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 16:57:32 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:46:06 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> There you go AGAIN, telling me what I think, how I feel. There are
>>half-a-dozen of you. You, Elaine, Cathy, Robyn, John H.
>
>
>Someone has to!
??? You and half-a-dozen others in here must "tell me how I feel?"
You're pathological!
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: ANOTHER IDLE THREAT ARCHIVED....Was: Re: Hello--I'm new to
the group
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:38:40 -0700
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 18:15:43 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybeck61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Aug 6, 1:28 pm, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yesOn Mon, 06 Aug 2007 11:46:52 -0400, NOs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
>> >An Elder Health facility IS a home, in that it's a chain of homes for
>> >aged and frail.
>>
>> You actually have NO CLUE where I live!
>>
>> But please continue to foam at the mouth like you BELIEVE you do!
>
>I believe that Elder Health home he's afilliated with is a day-
>facility, not a residence facility. He lives elsewhere.
That's a baby step closer to reality! However, I see no reason to
tell anyone where I live or in what sort of facility!
That's definitely more info than any of you need!
I don't see any of you using the information for my benefit!
john w
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: John Weatherly
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:35:41 -0700
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 17:25:48 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybeck61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Aug 6, 4:58 pm, "Scout Lady" <scoutl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> Narcissists are totally and inflexibly authoritarian. In other words,
they
>> are suck-ups. They want to be authority figures and, short of that,
they
>> want to be associated with authority figures. In their hearts, they
know
>> they can't think well, have no judgment about what matters, are not
>> connected with the world they inhabit, so they cling fanatically to
the
>> opinions of people they regard as authority figures -- such as their
>> parents, teachers, doctors, ministers. Where relevant, this may
include
>> scientists or professors or artists, but narcissists stick to people
they
>> know personally, since they aren't engaged enough with the world to
get
>> their authoritative opinions from TV, movies, books or dead
>> geniuses/saints/heroes. If they get in trouble over some or another
opinion
>> they've put forth, they'll blame the source -- "It was okay with Dr.
>> Somebody," "My father taught me that," etc. If you're still thinking
of the
>> narcissist as odd-but-normal, this ****rking of responsibility will
seem
>> dishonest and craven -- well, it is but it's really an admission of
>> weakness: they really mean it: they said what they said because
someone they
>> admire or fear said it and they're trying to borrow that person's
strength.
>
>Positively textbook.
I see just because I haven't kissed your ass sufficiently, you've
now joined the haters!
Why am I not surprised?
There are roughly a dozen of you now who are LOSERS who are
pretending you're all psychiatrists!
I think that could very well be illegal.
I think it's time to find out!
Surely, if YOU're a licensed pastor, your congregation won't look
kindly on such OBVIOUS attempts to manipulate!
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: John Weatherly
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:33:52 -0700
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 19:58:59 -0400, "Scout Lady" <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
>"RedFox" <Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:Jesse-0708070934080001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> In article <1j6db3h1vu20h97ug0tc7poir3084u1s88@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
>> <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I may want to consult with you and your wife on several up-coming
>>> projects.
>>>
>>
>> There's no answer to that!
>>
>Sure there is.
>
>Narcissists are totally and inflexibly authoritarian.
My, my, the psycho "RN" is pretending to diagnose again!
tsk tsk
In fact, Carl and I are in contact off this group!
I merely alert him IN this group when I have sent him something, so
that he knows to watch for it!
TRULY, Cathy, there is life beyond putting me down (or attempting to)
john w
snipped the psychotic hate.
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>
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Subject: Re: "KING JAMES ONLY"
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:31:18 -0700
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:27:40 -0700,
bushhelpscor****ationsdestroyamerica <bushhelpscor****ations@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Aug 6, 8:19 pm, NOs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:31:38 GMT, publicm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Ted J L)
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Rome's Catechism as being equivalent.
>>
>> Rome's
>> catechism' argues with itself. Sorry, but IMNSHO, the romanist
>> 'catechism has NOTHING to do with God's BIBLE.
>
>king james was a faggot and ****ed st marys bloody **** hole
You're sick! You're twisted, and you need help!
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Subject: Re: "KING JAMES ONLY"
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:30:38 -0700
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:31:38 GMT, publicmien@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>In article <m8feb3p8aoii8ujnpggs6o7g3n8pf142md@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
>>
><SNIP>
>>Personally, I have many versions I like, the KJV Being one of them.
>> But I also read the NIV, ASV, NASB, NEB, et al.!! I do it because
>>each is a little different in its explanation of things, abd being the
>>inquisitive soul that I am, I love to compare versions.
>>Have a good day :o)
>
>I expect the one world church prophesied in Revelation
>will be doing the same, is doing the same[1]...as well as referencing
>something like Rome's Catechism as being equivalent.
>
>We can rely on King James version as being an uncorrupted
translation...not
>so with the modern versions.
As I have said, I can name you 20 - 30 scholars (Hebrew/Greek
authorities), who don't agree.
john w
I find the Defined King James to be exceptionally
>clear and easy to read,
Congratulations! Then there are those of us who can't make sense of
it. I can't read the KJV and get any meaning from it. To me, the
Elizabethan English might as well be Swahili.
And I've known a number of people, my upstairs neighbor for one (a
programmer/nuke sub radio man in his youth-- not a stupid man),
couldn't make heads or tails of the KJV,either.
Hence the vast number of modern translations.
The first Bible I could read was the Living Bible. When the NASB was
finally published in my freshman/sophomore year of university, I
bought it, and finally had a "translation" I could read and
comprehend. I DEVOURED it, with my pastor (Dr Fickett's) approval.
When the NIV came out, I got a copy of IT. Between the NIV and the
NASB, I finally got through the Bible for the first time, then the
2nd, then the 3rd, then the 4th.
If I had to depend on a KJV, I wouldn't read the Bible!
There are those-- perhaps you-- who would deprive me and perhaps
MILLIONS of others the right to read the Bible for myself, merely
because I can't read the KJV!
given that the words and phrases whose meaning
>has changed are bold and enumerated with pithy definitions given in
>the footer of each page, and most books have a 1/2 to 1 page summary of
>the modern grammatical equivalents to old verb endings (e.g. "change
most -eth verb
>endings to s. darken-eth is darkens,...)
IT's a LOT easier to read the Bible and study and appreciate it when
we aren't fighting an ancient, and obscure language.
We are commanded to read and memorize the Bible. Why throw up a
roadblock and DEMAND that we must all use a CENTURIES-old text?
We shouldn't!
And you falsely claim that the other translations are DISTORTED! I
big to differ! I find every truth I've been taught from my youth by
the SCHOLARS in my NIV and my NASB!
I see no reason to make the most basic of Christianity, the reading
of God's Word, an exercise in futility!
AND, you IGNORED my challenge. Show me one single prophesy in the
Bible that names the KJV as "the only reliable translation."
You adhere to a false, man-made teaching!
>.
>
>1. A REVIEW OF RICK WARREN’S "THE PURPOSE DRIVEN LIFE" by David Cloud
>http://www.wayoflife.org/fbns/review-rickwarren-purposedriven.html
>"In The Purpose Driven Life, Warren uses 15 different Bible versions,
>including two Roman Catholic ones (The New American Bible and the New
>Jerusalem Bible). His favorites are the "dynamic equivalency" versions
>such as the Living Bible, the New Living Bible, Today’s English Version,
>the Contem****ary English Version, and The Message. The latter seems to
be
>his most favorite."
who is "Rick Warren?"
I'd at least think you'd refer to some world-renowned scholar, Dr
John MacArthur perhaps?
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: PING! Carl !! Kindly watch your e-mail, sir! Thanks! :-)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:19:42 -0700
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 18:57:38 -0400, "Scout Lady" <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 10:20:42 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>> <witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>
>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrotesnip
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Carl, sir. I am sending you something Xtremely im****tant (to me).
>>>
>>>Where's the evidence that I threatened someone?
>>
>> What?
>>
>>>
>>>Failure to produce this proves that you are a liar.
>>
>> What?
>>
>> Do you understand, Stupid One, that you're being IGNORED?
>>
>Do you understand, Brillant One, that by answering her post you are not
>ignoring her?
You just don't get it! And you're not 1/10th as brilliant as you
like to think you are!
;-)
>
>> I'll try it again:
>>
>> You're being ignored.
>>
>> Now shut up, and go away!
>>
>Continuing to respond to her after announcing that she is being ignored
>makes you look rather silly John.
>
>If you want her to shut up and go away then all you have to do is
killfile
>her or simply stop reading her posts.
>
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Subject: Re: To Jess.....a reply. blood and bones
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:32:17 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:31:55 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>name of LIAR JOHNNIE!!
>>
>> Just saw this nonsense!
>>
>
>You're not very bright, are you?
>Why else do you think so many of us call you SHORT BUS?
Thanks for admitting that you lied earlier AGAIN!!
You just got done saying that "short bus" refers to the buses
prisoners are trans****ted on.
You have just once again admitted that you call me "short bus" as
your UGLY comment on what you consider my lack of smarts.
Leave it to YOU, Elaine! You eventually get around to admitting
your lies!
;-)
>
>> Thanks, Elaine, for once again proving/ AND ADMITTING that you've
>>never had an original thought in your life!
>>
>According to 'you' perhaps.
??? But you're the one who said you got your insult from somebody
else! I can't think of an insult you've ever used that you didn't
STEAL from somebody else!
>
> By the way, old boy- you still haven't posted the 'evidence' where
>Robyn supposedly 'threatened you' - WHY NOT?
I don't dance on her strings. I don't dance on your strings!
>
>Don't tell me you haven't had enough time to think something up by
>now.
>
>> You're so STUPID that you even have to get your low blows from
>>someone else!
>>
>>john w
>
>Aw gee..... go take your meds, you raving madman.
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 18:51:01 -0400, "Cj" <someone@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message >
>>
>>garbage deleted<
>
>> john w
>
>
>You are a bigot and an ignorant one at that.
Thanks! I call that "persecution." You would like to deprive me of
my say!
And I think the Internet is WONDERFUL in one way. It allows me to
speak my peace, and it allows you to be a jerk!
I still can't figure out how I can be a "bigot", merely for
expressing my beliefs, and stating that I'd rather die than change!
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Good News!
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:11:45 -0700
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:20:45 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Tue, 07 Aug 2007 02:02:05 GMT, "Zadok" <nobler@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gospel Man" <drivel writer> wrote in message ...
>>>
>>> Jesus Christ came into this world to lay down His sinless life for
>>> YOU--
>>
>>Cute story!!
>>
>>Is that from Aesop??
>>
>>
>Zadok- I'm surprised at you. I thought you were a Christian.
???? You AGAIN prove you don't think!
"Zadok" has confronted me harshly MANY times; he does not believe!
I think, Elaine, if you didn't spend so much of your time attacking
certain people for NO reason other than HATE, you might be aware of
more people who don't believe! (they should be your primary concern)
john w
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Good News!
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:10:22 -0700
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On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 21:39:29 -0400, Truth-B-Told@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Gospel Man)
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
> Jesus Christ came into this world to lay down His sinless life for
>YOU--to pay for your sins because you couldn't. Jesus is your ONLY hope
>for salvation. Only by receiving Him as your Saviour can you enter the
>gates of Heaven. There is no other way. "Jesus saith unto him, I am the
>way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father but by me."
>(John 14:6) "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none
>other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."
>(Acts 4:12)
That's the sermon most of us have heard our whole lives. However,
let me play Devil's Advocate and ask you, what about the boy of 10,
who is born and grows up in the darkest corner of Africa, who lives
and dies without ever hearing the name of Jesus! Does he go to hell,
simply because he was unfortunate enough to have been born, lived, and
died someplace where the gospel hasn't reached yet?
I have MY answer! What is YOUR answer?
> The Lord Jesus Christ has come and PAID for your sins by shedding His
>own Blood on Calvary. By receiving Him as your Saviour, you can be
>WASHED from all your sins in His precious Blood (Rev. 1:5; Col. 1:14;
>Acts 20:28; I Pet. 1:18-19). Notice these im****tant words from Romans
>5:8-9: "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were
>yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by
>his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."
> Jesus PAID your way to Heaven! Your church cannot save you! Only by
>receiving Jesus Christ as your Saviour can you escape the damnation of
>Hell. Are you willing to forsake YOUR righteousness and receive Jesus
>Christ as your Saviour, your ONLY HOPE for Salvation? Romans 10:13 says,
>"Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Romans
>10:9 says, "That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
>and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead,
>thou shalt be saved."
> Why not pray right now and ask the Lord to come into your heart and
>cleanse you from all sin? He will save you just as He promised.
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Another JW lie exposed!
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 22:07:53 -0700
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 11:53:14 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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>On Mon, 6 Aug 2007 09:17:48 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
><witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no>
>>
>>snip
>>>
>>> Do YOU like to be referred to as "Queen Liar?"
>>
>>Why do you think she even cares?
>>
>>Stick and stones.
>
>
>Actually, I laugh every time the idiot calls me that, knowing it's
>just another of his lies,
You didn't find it so funny when people were calling you that some 6
years ago, when I first came in here.
I kept asking, "Why are all of you calling Elaine "Queen Liar"?
They kept saying, "stick around; you'll find out."
I did! Within a very few days, I saw you lying through your teeth
about little things that didn't even matter!
Some 5 years ago, you were saying I got a Dishonorable Discharge
(something YOU couldn't possibly know)
5 years ago, you were claiming that I didn't have an education!
and a result of his own lies piling on top
>of him. He's told so many whoppers, he actually believes they're all
>true, methinks!
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Another JW lie exposed!
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:53:40 -0700
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 12:00:30 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 06:38:41 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> You prove yet AGAIN that you are so psychotic that you are unable to
>>stay on topic.
>>
>> Nor do you mind LYING if you can land yet another LOW BLOW!
>>
>>
>> john w
>
>
>Dream on. Red Fox is hardly 'psychotic' for talking back to you and
>putting you in your proper place.
>
>If anyone tries (and always FAILS) to 'land a low blow', it's you.
>
>Like you've been told so often before, little man- if you tried to
>pull up your socks, you'd be blindfolded.
???
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: A Serious Challenge
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:51:34 -0700
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:36:36 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybeck61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
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>On Aug 6, 8:33 am, NOs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>
>> Well, Kelly- I did make the attempt to stop calling him short-bus,
>> which Ujie so accurately called him originally.
>> In my attempts not to continue, liar-johnnie only proceeded with more
>> insults, gutter mouth, and idle threats. Therefore, if he continues to
>> ACT like an idiot, he can certainly expect to be treated as one.
>>
>> Mentally challenged people are not idiots. He's not mentally
>> challenged from birth. He even admitted to faking his mental state in
>> another post WHICH I HAVE ARCHIVED.
>>
>> Prisoners being escorted to a work detail are also often trans****ted
>> in short buses..........
>
>This is true....Hmmm.
>
I suggest you both get your own behavior and attitudes in check, and
stop worrying about MINE!
Hint: Neither of you can control ME, no matter how you wish you
could!
The only person either of you can control is yourself!
>
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: A Serious Challenge
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:50:23 -0700
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 11:33:42 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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>On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 21:09:31 -0700, "<~(Hey,
>WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybeck61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>On Aug 5, 8:25 am, "Vernono O" <Here @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> "Falcon" <Fal...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:87fab352u313aj2k5hlrv70625nnju5oh6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >I have been watching the group for a long time and it seems that the
>>> > same thing happens over and over. Myself, guilty as well at times.
>>>
>>> > Why does everyone allow John W to turn it into his show?
>>>
>>> > A few recent threads, for example.
>>>
>>> > Hello--I'm new to the group
>>>
>>> > Why did everyone allow this to be about John W?
>>>
>>> > Happy Birthday, Scout Lady
>>>
>>> > An occasion for SL that has turned to a John W show. Why?
>>>
>>> > Get a life John.....
>>>
>>> > Feeding frenzy continues and even has evolved into nothing but John
W
>>> > and no end in sight.
>>>
>>> > Why do you all keep feeding him? Why do you let him hijack decent
>>> > topics only to sink to his level. Ponder a bit. Are you all
unable
>>> > to ignore and engage in meaningful conversations? Pretty lame
excuse
>>> > that others must be warned about him, etc. Anyone with more than 5
>>> > or 6 functioning brain cells can figure him out in two posts or
less.
>>>
>>> > I would challenge you all to let it go. Do not respond to his
>>> > nonsense and inane ramblings. There is far more to life and our
>>> > calling than to continually respond by banging your head against a
>>> > brick wall of someone who feeds you the bait and it turns into a
>>> > feeding frenzy of give John W all the attention he wants.
>>>
>>> > Not that it means much to anyone but I am a little disappointed
that
>>> > John W seems to control so many folks on this newsgroup. He talks,
>>> > everyone jumps to answer and in the process sinks to his level
which
>>> > only adds more food to his frenzy.
>>>
>>> > My challenge to everyone is to let it go, he is a lost cause and no
>>> > need to let him control you and let him dictate what you want to
say.
>>>
>>> > --
>>> > Ciao,
>>> > Falcon
>>>
>>> Absolutely.
>>> Totally agree.
>>> He is singly responsible for ruining most threads.
>>
>>He hasn't done it on his own. There are three other posters who,
>>practically without fail, bait him with constant beration. Pointing
>>out his errors and bringing unacceptable behavior to his attention is
>>one thing, but following him around the groups continually trading
>>childish insults and name calling is ridiculous. In fact, it actually
>>seems obsessive/compulsive in nature.
>>
>>I know that I am certainly guilty of chiding him uneccessarily, but my
>>behavior completely pales in comparison to the other three.
>
>
>Well, Kelly- I did make the attempt to stop calling him short-bus,
>which Ujie so accurately called him originally.
?????
"Accurately?"
You continue to make excuses for UGLY misbehavior.
> In my attempts not to continue, liar-johnnie only proceeded with more
>insults, gutter mouth, and idle threats.
In other words, if I don't perform like a dog for you, your ugly
misbehavior continues!
In other words, I control you!
Because you can't control yourself!
Therefore, if he continues to
>ACT like an idiot, he can certainly expect to be treated as one.
ditto!
As you continue to act like the sociopath you are, expect me to
continue to make arrangements to put you away!
You are dangerous! You are a walking time bomb!
>
> Mentally challenged people are not idiots.
????? So why do you keep calling me an idiot? Are you now
ADMITTING your many lies?
(you've called me an "idiot" MANY times)
He's not mentally
>challenged from birth.
Stupid One. If you read up on bi-polar, you are born with it.
He even admitted to faking his mental state in
>another post WHICH I HAVE ARCHIVED.
I admitted to some behavior a LONG time ago.
Leave it to YOU to twist what I said into a pretzel!
While you excuse YOUR aberrant, criminal behavior!
>
>Prisoners being escorted to a work detail are also often trans****ted
>in short buses..........
I'm not a prisoner, and I doubt seriously that that's how you meant
that!
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>
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Subject: Re: A Serious Challenge
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 08:29:21 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybeck61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Aug 6, 2:39 am, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> Now, what are you planning to do about it?
>
>Considering the fact that you had to gloat about this thread and ask
>"what [am I] planning to do about it?", maybe nothing.
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