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by walksalone <spamstopper@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 11, 2008 at 01:57 PM

>> >> >> everyone else!  (the Non-Roman Catholics)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In other words, if you're not a Roman Catholic, and you claim to 
be
>a
>> >> >> Christian, then you're a "cafeteria Christian."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If ever there was a "cafeteria Christian", it's a Roman Catholic
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Immersion, believers' baptism (in the Bible)
>> >> >>   don't believe in it
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Salvation by grace through faith in Christ (John 3:16)
>> >> >>   don't believe in it
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Have NO other gods before me!
>> >> >>
>> >> >>   don't believe in it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I could give you 50 - 75 examples without even trying!
>> >> >>   "don't believe that!"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If ever there was a "cafeteria Christian", it's a Roman 
Catholic.
>> >> >
>> >> >Actually, the term is usually used to describe a Catholic who 
picks
>and
>> >> >chooses what parts of Catholic teaching he will believe or follow.
>> >>
>> >> I was being facetious. The times I've heard "Cafeteria Christian" 
it's
>> >> been a put-down from a Roman Catholic who has been wrongly taught 
that
>> >> all Christians must believe these 550 things. If you only believe 
549
>> >> of them, you can't be a Christian!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> I see in scripture, that we must believe certain "core teachings",
>> >> such as the Trinity, the Deity of our Lord, His virgin birth, etc.
>> >>
>> >> Yet even a CORE teaching among MOST denominations of Christians, 
the
>> >> final authority of scripture as taught by the Holy Spirit,
>> >
>> >To each individual?
>>
>> Here we go again! I've discussed this REPEATEDLY, and yet you STILL
>> can't wrap your head around it!  After I've discussed it from 50
>> different angles, it remains a complete MYSTERY to you!
>>
>> Why is that?
>>
>> Even if you disagreed, you SHOULD be able to understand it! Yet your
>> continued questions about the "priesthood of the believer" (Let each
>> of you make up his own mind) indicate you just don't get it!
>
>Let each person make up their own mind and theology.

You obviously
1. didn't look up the passage.
2. looked it up, but with your obvious spiritual blindness, you didn't
get it.

  That's how Baptists
>work, it seems.  You included.  It's all arbitrary.

Not at all!

We are free to decide for ourselves on non-essentials. ALL the topics
in that passage are NON-ESSENTIALS.

feasts
holidays
foods to eat/avoid
days to wor****p

NON-essentials!

And I am betting you STILL don't get it!

(because you are so brainwashed you can only "comprehend" information
that's stamped "Rome Approved!"


ah hem.

john w

snipped the ongoing rantings and bs of Steven


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Subject: Re: Baptism as requirement for member****p set for church vote
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On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 19:24:55 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
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author
>On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 04:52:20 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>Hey, numb-nuts - 

Hey, numbnuts, yourself !  (you act like a man, may as well treat you
like one)

>YOU
>are not qualified to attempt to diagnose ANYONE!

You are less qualified than I am , but that never stopped you!

AT least I don't use a nursing credential to play shrink!

;-)

john w
>>
>>Thanks, Larry!  But if you have not yet come to grips with it yet,
>>Elaine has had what is called "a psychotic break", that only
>>medication, a proper diagnosis, and LONG-term INTENSIVE care will even
>>HOPE to help.
>>
>>But she must first ADMIT she's sick. And sadly, people who are as sick
>>as she is are the LAST to seek help.
>>
>>(she thinks the whole world is off-kilter). However, you may have
>>noticed that those with whom she has chosen to align (Dave, crawls,
>>Phar Lap, Jim Agar) are as psychotic as she is.
>>
>> "Guilt by association."
>>
>>God bless, Larry!
>>
>>john w


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snip

>> >> >The Trinity is debatable
>> >>
>> >> Not if you're a Christian, it's not!
>> >>
>> >> - see many Jehovah's Witness-related threads.
>> >>
>> >> And why on EARTH do you consider Jehovah's Witnesses "Christians?"
>> >> Last I was aware, the discussion was amongst CHRISTIANS. Jehovah's
>> >> Witnesses are NOT Christians.
>> >
>> >In other words, you've just admitted that it's debatable by debating 
it.
>>
>> Oh, you DO LOVE to play games and you never give one inch!
>
>Not to the likes of you, no.

Interesting comment.
>
>> I am not debating you!  I informed you that you are incorrect in your
>> belief that Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians!
>>
>> Why can't you stay on topic?
>
>Why can't you?

Interesting comment.
 Did you stick your tongue out and blow me a raspberry?
 Did you put your finger on your nose and wiggle your hand at me?

>
>>   Or do you PREFER being "cutesy?"
>>
>> >
>> >> If you EXAMINED Jehovah's Witnesses "doctrine" (as you choose to
>> >> mis-label it), Jehovah's Witnesses not only reject the teaching
>> >> regarding the Trinity, they reject the teaching that Jesus Christ 
was
>> >> God/man.  They teach that he was a created being, an ANGEL.
>> >>
>> >> NO matter what else you are confused about, if you reject the Deity 
of
>> >> the Lord Jesus Christ, you are "preaching another gospel."
>> >>
>> >> John 1, The Word WAS GOD, and The Word became flesh.
>> >>
>> >> >Transubstantiation is debatable - see your own statements.
>> >>
>> >> To YOU, transubstantiation is "debatable'. To me, it's not, as it's 
a
>> >> myth.  Unnecessary "magic."
>> >
>> >In other words, you've just admitted that it's debatable by debating 
it.

Interesting. I give you some VITAL information PROVING that the
Jehovah's Witnesses aren't Christians by YOUR standard, and you IGNORE
it!
 You are playing games.

>>
>>  I am not debating transubstantiation.
>
>Not here, but you do.  So that proves it's debatable.

As I said,

Interesting. I give you some VITAL information PROVING that the
Jehovah's Witnesses aren't Christians by YOUR standard, and you IGNORE
it!
 You are playing games.

>
>> And I will leave you here.
>>
>>   AGAIN, you waste my time with "cutesy."
>>
>> tsk tsk
>>
>> I am trying to get into some SERIOUS discussion here. You prefer
>> trolling and playing patty cakes!
>
>Just demonstrating your theology so that others can see it for what it 
is.

smirk.  You have NO clue!

And I think I will watch for your sig for the next week and avoid you.
You are a troll, and you aren't contributing. at the moment, in fact,
I think you are being little more than an attention whore.

john w
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: In Fact, Mark Bilbo...
Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 05:05:19 -0700
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In fact, Mark, one of the stories on the web (Katrina and unused
buses) pointed out
that there were some 200 buses (or more) in a parking lot UNDER THE
MAYOR's direct control, some 5 miles from the Dome in N O. There was
NEVER ANY OBSTACLE OF ANY KIND between the parking lot and the Dome.

Yet the Mayor whined and shrieked "Wa****ngton, come save us", and he
let his citizens DROWN because he was too INCOMPETENT to go get those
buses! He could have moved 26,000 people with the school buses and the
municipal buses!

Instead, he whined and did NOTHING!

Shall I post those DOZEN links again, or are you going to SHUT UP and
apologize like the MAN you aren't!?

All you're good for is opening your maw and cursing!

You are a HATER! Plain and simple!

An unformed, uneducated, illiterate HATER.

You know it, everyone else knows it!

;-)



john w


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Subject: Hey! Mark Bilbo!  Dumbass!  I Posted Half-a-Dozen links about 
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Hey! Mark Bilbo!  

Dumbass!  

I Posted Half-a-Dozen links about the buses!

Where'd you go?

You said my story about the buses in N O just plain "didn't happen."


I posted half-a-dozen links, and 2 stories, one by MSNBC.

Is MSNBC a source you'd believe?

It was by a Senior Correspondent.

You made NO comment.

Proving you're the IGNORANT, arrogant, loud-mouthed LIAR I said you
were!

;-)





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On Fri, 4 Aug 2006 05:13:31 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:31:01 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
>> <gmail@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>>On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:26:03 -0700, john w in
>>><ebj4d2pqlnh9a6lg6shu5m8cptdlruroui@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>
>>>> Bilbo is either utterly, criminally insane (foam at the mouth, white 
of
>>>> the eyes), or a demoniac, or both.
>>>
>>>Talk about projection ***** ****o boy...
>>
>>
>> That's called libel, dumbass!
>>
>> Try proving it.
>
>Been there, done that.  Posts are archived. It's been proven repeatedly. 
>Your point?
>>
>> What REALLY happened in New Orleans.
>
>Mark lived through it.  You?  Sitting on your ass in your welfare hotel. 
>So, shut the **** up.

I note that you're as ignorant, and as big a LIAR as Mark!

 I also note with amusement that you -- like Mark -- snipped all the
links!

;-)

You freakin' PHONY!


>
>BTW, post your evidence about man co-existing with dinosaurs yet?

Why would I post it for YOU?

( I wouldn't)

If someone who matters asks, I might.

(that DOES leave you out, Elaine)

;-)




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On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 03:14:33 GMT, "Mike Painter"
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>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
> >>
>>>> in the same way the 50 foot tall flesh-eating dinosaur threatened
>>>> the 10 foot tall dinosaur and the 4 foot tall "primitive man" ???
>>>
>>> Humans and dinosaurs existed millions of years apart dimwit.
>>
>>
>> That is a theory, dumbass.  It is ONLY a theory.
>>
>> Else, I am sure you will provide me the do***entation from the men who
>> wrote it who "weren't there at the time."
>>
> I've got a nickel that says John can't tell us what a theory, as used 
by 
>science is in his own words.
>I've got a dime that says he does not understand the concept. 
>


Mikey, for ONCE try to remove your head from its cozy spot in your
rectum and focus.

I don't CARE what you think!

In the several years I've known of you, I have YET to detect any
observable sign of intelligence!

You are a DRONE pal!

john w

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>On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:45:50 -0700, john w wrote:
>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:45:02 -0700, Frank Mayhar <frank@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> wrote:
>>  © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>>On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 13:28:27 -0700, john w wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 08:15:06 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
>>>> <gmail@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>Humans and dinosaurs existed millions of years apart dimwit.
>>>> That is a theory, dumbass.  It is ONLY a theory.
>>>
>>>I would say that the evidence sup****ting the theory that you're a 
dimwit
>>>is overwhelming. 
>> 
>> If you're trying to hurt my feewings, snif, you're succeeding.
>
>I couldn't possibly care _less_ about your "feewings."  You used the 
words
>"only a theory," thereby proving that you don't even know what the word
>means.
>
>> I'd say, you're not off to a good start with this "communicating"
>> stuff!
>
>Says the guy that snipped my entire post to snipe at me.

I snipped your post because it's a mile high pile of rodent feces.


watch!

here it comes again!

john w
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> wrote:
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>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
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>> >"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> x-no-archive: yes
>> >> On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 22:27:32 +0200, "Stephen Korsman"
>> >> <skorsman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >>  © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> >> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of 
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>> >> author
>> >> >
>> >> >"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> >news:ad80d2t766teq53nfui0c91183s9qvvgu8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >> x-no-archive: yes
>> >> >> On 1 Aug 2006 18:43:29 -0700, "God established the Catholic 
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>for
>> >> >> All" <catholic_gods_church@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> >>  © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> >> >> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of 
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>> >> >> author
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>> >> >> >> On 1 Aug 2006 15:17:04 -0700, "God established the Catholic
>Church
>> >for
>> >> >> >> All" <catholic_gods_church@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >You have also missed the part where Jesus said,
>> >> >> >> >"This is My Body, This Is My Blood, Do this.."
>> >> >> >> >Couldn't be any clearer, but yet when You read that
>> >> >> >> >passage, you don't see it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> What part of SYMBOLIC don't you understand?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Jesus made it very clear that He meant what He said,
>> >> >> >"This IS My Body."
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Actually, He didn't!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Because, AFTER He SAID, "This is my body, this is my blood", He 
THEN
>> >> >> said, "so every time you eat this BREAD, and drink this CUP..."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> meaning, you believe what you WANT to believe, and what you are 
TOLD
>> >> >> to believe!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I could list a DOZEN things He said and MEANT, but you IGNORE 
those
>> >> >> things!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And, I continue to have a question, which ALL Roman Catholics 
AVOID.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If He TRULY wanted us to eat His flesh, and drink His actual 
blood,
>> >> >> why didn't He rip an arm off, roast it, feed it to the apostles, 
and
>> >> >> grow a new one?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Maybe He couldn't!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why didn't He use a sharp rock to open a vein, and give them His
>> >> >> ACTUAL BLOOD?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why was He reduced to MAGIC?
>> >> >
>> >> >But what about the mystical power you said comes from baptism?  
You
>> >believe
>> >> >in magic too.
>>
>> Sad.  YOU see no difference between the words "mystical", and "magic."
>>
>> tsk tsk
>
>The problem is that you use them incorrectly.
>
>> The discernment we get from the Holy Spirit, where is that?
>>
>> You have NONE!
>>
>> A first year Bible student who has the Holy Spirit guiding him has
>> more spiritual understanding than you do, Steve!
>
>And all the first year students who have the Holy Spirit telling them
>contradicting things have more understanding?
>
>Hmm ... I doubt it's the Holy Spirit.
>
>> >>
>> >> I was using the term "magic" here in a negative way.
>> >>
>> >> There is nothing negative or "magical" (sleight of hand) or occult
>> >> about baptism.
>> >
>> >There is something mystical, though, you tell us.  A mystical power.
>Yours
>> >is mystical power, ours is magic ... so saith John W.
>>
>> AGAIN, Steve, I see utterly NOTHING to be gained from this
>> "discussion".
>
>Then don't waste your time.
>
>> You simply do not give one single inch.   I have in the past few weeks
>> conceded SEVERAL points. IN the past YEAR, I believe you have conceded
>> one TINY one.
>
>I do not bow to your idols.

No, Steve, you bow to YOUR idols!

And-- for the record-- dumbass LIAR-- I don't have any idols in my
life.

You have a whole city full, in Rome!

>
>God bless,
>Stephen


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>> >> <skorsman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >>  © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> >> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of 
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>> >> author
>> >> >
>> >> >"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> >> >news:ad80d2t766teq53nfui0c91183s9qvvgu8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >> x-no-archive: yes
>> >> >> On 1 Aug 2006 18:43:29 -0700, "God established the Catholic 
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>for
>> >> >> All" <catholic_gods_church@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> >>  © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> >> >> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of 
the
>> >> >> author
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>> >> >> >> On 1 Aug 2006 15:17:04 -0700, "God established the Catholic
>Church
>> >for
>> >> >> >> All" <catholic_gods_church@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >You have also missed the part where Jesus said,
>> >> >> >> >"This is My Body, This Is My Blood, Do this.."
>> >> >> >> >Couldn't be any clearer, but yet when You read that
>> >> >> >> >passage, you don't see it.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> What part of SYMBOLIC don't you understand?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Jesus made it very clear that He meant what He said,
>> >> >> >"This IS My Body."
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Actually, He didn't!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Because, AFTER He SAID, "This is my body, this is my blood", He 
THEN
>> >> >> said, "so every time you eat this BREAD, and drink this CUP..."
>> >> >>
>> >> >> meaning, you believe what you WANT to believe, and what you are 
TOLD
>> >> >> to believe!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I could list a DOZEN things He said and MEANT, but you IGNORE 
those
>> >> >> things!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And, I continue to have a question, which ALL Roman Catholics 
AVOID.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If He TRULY wanted us to eat His flesh, and drink His actual 
blood,
>> >> >> why didn't He rip an arm off, roast it, feed it to the apostles, 
and
>> >> >> grow a new one?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Maybe He couldn't!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why didn't He use a sharp rock to open a vein, and give them His
>> >> >> ACTUAL BLOOD?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why was He reduced to MAGIC?
>> >> >
>> >> >But what about the mystical power you said comes from baptism?  
You
>> >believe
>> >> >in magic too.
>>
>> Sad.  YOU see no difference between the words "mystical", and "magic."
>>
>> tsk tsk
>
>The problem is that you use them incorrectly.

rotflmao!

 I certainly do not need a pagan Roman Catholic to define terms for
me!

>
>> The discernment we get from the Holy Spirit, where is that?
>>
>> You have NONE!
>>
>> A first year Bible student who has the Holy Spirit guiding him has
>> more spiritual understanding than you do, Steve!
>
>And all the first year students who have the Holy Spirit telling them
>contradicting things have more understanding?

You are describing a hypothetical. In my 50+ years of being a
Christian, I have witnessed what I describe countless times. I have
not witnessed your HYPOTHETICAL (foolishness) yet.


>
>Hmm ... I doubt it's the Holy Spirit.

Did I say I cared a rip what you think?
(I don't)

>
>> >>
>> >> I was using the term "magic" here in a negative way.
>> >>
>> >> There is nothing negative or "magical" (sleight of hand) or occult
>> >> about baptism.
>> >
>> >There is something mystical, though, you tell us.  A mystical power.
>Yours
>> >is mystical power, ours is magic ... so saith John W.
>>
>> AGAIN, Steve, I see utterly NOTHING to be gained from this
>> "discussion".
>
>Then don't waste your time.

I checked back to see if there had been the SLIGHEST change to your
"knows all" attitude.

there wasn't.

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On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:01:20 GMT, cactus <bm1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:
>> RCC Examined 26
>
><snipped bigotry>
>> "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 
8:32).
>
>More hatespeech from one of the most intransigent bigots in this NG


Actually, bigot, IKH claims to be a Christian. He claims Jesus Christ
as Lord and Savior, which is more than could be said about you. And
since this post IS in the baptist group, what in HELL are YOU doing in
here?

john w

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On Fri, 04 Aug 2006 06:08:51 GMT, cactus <bm1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On 3 Aug 2006 13:59:36 -0700, "God established the Catholic Church for
>> All" <catholic_gods_church@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>  © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>> IKnowHimDoYou- A. wrote:
>>>> RCC Examined 26
>>>>
>>>> 4. The Use of the Rosary- The rosary is a device consisting of a 
chain of
>>>> beads used in the ritualistic counting of repetitious prayers such 
as Hail
>>>> Marys and the Lord's Prayer.
>>> You forgot that the meditations of the Rosary are the Gosples,
>> 
>> Someone lied to you!
>> 
>> You will not find "The Rosary" ANYWHERE in the Bible
>> 
>> And it's not "a meditation". It's  a repetitious CHANT (forbidden)
>> designed for self-hypnosis, so that you will be more receptive to
>> demon possession.
>> 
>
>Hello jw, nice to see you again. Where have you been?
>
>One suggestion - keep your nose out of meditative issues.

A suggestion for you!  Keep your nose out of Christian issues.
chanting (mantras of ALL types, INCLUDING the rosary) are CLEARLY
forbidden in scripture! 
  Scripture FORBIDS repetitive "prayers" and chants EXACTLY of the
nature of the Rosary, and for VERY good reason, as history and
experience show that MANY who practice chanting/rosary repetitions
leave themselves WIDE open to demon possession and oppression.

You really should do some reading on the subject from the Christian
perspective (which I have done) before you open your maw about things
you actually know NOTHING about.

 You are 
>clearly ignorant of mantras 

YOu only wish I were.

What? Did I stomp on one of YOUR spiritual issues? Do YOU chant?  It's
even forbidden for Jews to do, because Yhwh knows / knew how VERY
destructive and DANGEROU it is!

and their ability to facilitate prayer.

They don't "facilitate prayer."  God doesn't need for us to recite the
23rd Psalm 50 times in 30 minutes! He's not deaf!

Jesus condemnation and forbidding of chanting immediately preceded His
instruction on how to pray (The Lord's Prayer)

And if we pray as He instructed us (from the heart) we don't / won't
need to chant mantras.

    MT 6:5 "And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they
love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to
be seen by men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward
in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and
pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is
done in secret, will reward you. 
--> 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, <--
-->for they think they will be heard because of their many words. <--
-->8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before
you ask him. <--

    MT 6:9 "This, then, is how you should pray:

  " `Our Father in heaven,
  hallowed be your name,

  MT 6:10 your kingdom come,
  your will be done
    on earth as it is in heaven.

  MT 6:11 Give us today our daily bread.

  MT 6:12 Forgive us our debts,
    as we also have forgiven our debtors.

  MT 6:13 And lead us not into temptation,
  but deliver us from the evil one. '

MT 6:14 For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your
heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive
men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
>
>> ;-)
>> 

You certainly have just revealed a LARGE part of your spiritual
problem. You do the FORBIDDEN (forbidden for VERY good reasons), and
your heart has grown rock hard and ice cold.  You are one who "does as
you damn well please, INSTEAD of as directed by Yhwh.

And you have reaped the reward by a hard heart that RUNS to do evil.


Crawl back under your rock and leave spiritual issues to we who are
spiritual.


john w
>> 
>>  i.e.
>>> the life of Christ.   (another poster mentions this, just wanted to
>>> post it again).
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> You seem to have gotten lost.
>> 
>> The RCC group is  that way!
>> 
>> < ----------------------------
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> 
>>>> "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" 
(John 8:32).
>>> Well "IKnowHim" it's time you listened to the words of John 8:32, and
>>> stop
>>> spreading outright lies.
>> 


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> wrote:
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>
>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On 3 Aug 2006 14:19:13 -0700, "God established the Catholic Church for
>> All" <catholic_gods_church@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>  © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>> >
>> >checker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >> On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:29:13 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:27:20 -0600, checker@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>>Sobut the protest_er church wasn't around 2000 years ago when 
Christ
>> >> >>>started his Church with the Mass, 7 sacraments, and the Papacy.
>Your church
>> >> >>>started about 500 years ago.
>> >> >
>> >> >>Jesus never started His church with any mass, 7 sacraments, OR 
the
>> >> >>papacy.
>> >> >
>> >> >Sure he did.  It's scriptural.
>> >>
>> >> SHOW us a papacy in scripture.
>> >
>> >"Thou art Peter (Rock); and upon this rock I will build my church."
>> >(Matt.16:18, Dy)
>> >
>> >
>> >> SHOW us a mass.
>> >
>> >In the Bible, Jesus said, "This Is My Body, this Is My Blood, do
>> >this...."
>> >This is the most im****tant part of the Mass.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> SHOW us 7 sacraments (define your term first, please)
>> >
>> >Start another thread and take them one by one, less chance
>> >you can confuse others.
>>
>>
>> Kindly delete the Baptist group from your cross-posted spam next time.
>
>Kindly delete the Catholic group from your cross-posted spam next time.

There you go again, dumbass!

I have NO way of knowing which group this jerk posted from. It IS
apparent from the list, however, that he DID cross-post!

IF I am going to be certain that he sees my objection to his
cross-posting, then I must send my reply to every group he
cross-posted to!

You are sure dumb!

But then, it's no wonder! You're just another Roman Catholic drone!

"Obnoxious, arrogant, and on auto-pilot; no brain activity necessary!"


>
>God bless,
>Stephen


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>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrotesnip
>>
>> I just think you're even more full of it than he is!
>>
>> At LEAST vern OCCASIONALLY makes sense!
>
>Unlike you.

Funny stuff!  Your comment-- what there was of it-- indicates that you
UNDERSTOOD what I just said!

;-)

You liar!




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On 3 Aug 2006 21:24:54 -0700, olrik666@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>Robibnikoff wrote:
>> "john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>> > x-no-archive: yes
>> > On 2 Aug 2006 20:54:42 -0700, "Olrik" <olrik666@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> > article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> > author
>> >>
>> >>Vernon wrote:
>> >>> "Dubh Ghall" <puck@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> >>> news:hn52d2hl89jamqg7oeuhtaus3crc9b0bhs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> > On 2 Aug 2006 13:42:08 -0700, "Neil Kelsey" 
<neil_kelsey@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> >>> > wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> >>And will you make a public apology to us on Aug 24th if we're 
all
>> >>> >>still
>> >>> >>here?
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> To the idiots, I NEVER mentioned or even implied ANYTHING about us 
not
>> >>> being
>> >>> here .
>> >>>
>> >>> Actually the 22 or 23 are im****tant, but more im****tant is the 
inability
>> >>> of
>> >>> those here to read with any comprehension.
>> >>
>> >>Read *what*, moron? Care to actually say what you think will happen 
for
>> >>the dates in question?
>> >
>> > You have now posed a most loaded question. If vern is truly an idiot
>> > (he DOES give that impression at times, and that he is a bigot)
>> >
>> > but if he is an idiot, he not only doesn't have the gray matter with
>> > which to make any sense,
>> >
>> > but if he is truly an idiot, why does one with as much native
>> > intellect as you express even bother to ATTEMPT communication?
>> >
>> > Hmmmmmm...
>>
>> Blah, blah, blah.  Was there a purpose to this long-winded babble or 
do you
>> do it just to go back and read your own posts?
>
>The guy sets his posts to expire in 6 days. I understand why.

Actually, you probably DON'T understand why!

And rather than ASSUME (you know what they say about "ass"uming), you
could perhaps ASK me why, unless you truly prefer making ridiculous
remarks like the one above, and proving you prefer your "opinions" to
reality.

The FACT is, I am a writer, and a LOT of what I post in here is
intended as ROUGH DRAFTs of stuff I will LIKELY use elsewhere.

At any rate, WHY I don't archive is not really anyone's concern but
mine, now is it!

;-)

john w
>
>;-)
>
>Olrik
>
>> --
>> Robyn
>> Resident Witchypoo
>> Atheist Bastard Extraordinaire
>> #1557


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On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 22:27:01 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 15:06:47 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>   If you don't want me to come back and kick your ass, then get
>>control of yourself.
>
>You've never succeeded in kicking my ass so far 

  I've kicked your ass MANY times. You're just too stubborn /stupid to
admit it.

 I also corrected your "affectation" slip.

  You acknowledged Cathy's correction, while you IGNORED mine!

  Just can't bring yourself to admit to ME that you made
    A N O T H E R mistake!

   (we all know, so it's ok)


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On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 07:51:37 -0700, Mark Fox
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> wrote:
>On Aug 3, 5:21 pm, "Carl" <sai...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> "®andy" <pulpitf...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> > Glenn <gamccl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Glenn proved himself to follow a false god long ago.
>
>There is only one God.  There are no "false gods" but only false
>preachers.

  Anything you wor****p (spend all your time with) INSTEAD of God
becomes your false god.

john w

>
>> I am glad I no longer have to deal with his nonsense....
>
>It seems that you find sharing the good news a burden?
>
>> I and other Christians have rejected Glenn's heresies and even though 
he has been
>> corrected by many Christians...
>
>Its not your job to correct anyone.  Pull the plank out of your own
>eye, you fool.
>
>
>> ...which leads we Christians to have nothing further to do with him...
>
>I see.  Only just you 4 and then no more.  I have seen your kind
>before.  Be sure to wear light clothing as I hear hell is hot.
>
>
>> May God bless,
>> Carl
>
>
>It appears that God hasn't blessed you with anything except for
>selfishness and impatience.
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 12:04:20 -0700, Mark Fox
<thufir_dufas.hawat@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
 © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Aug 4, 7:20 pm, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>>   Carl, do not lose heart!
>>
>>  We literally have FAR more power than they do!
>>
>>   Don't forget that!
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>   Your brother in the faith/fight!
>>
>>  john w
>
>And that's really what its all about for you.... Using God to amass
>power for yourself.

???
    We don't "amass power." We call on God's power, and He exercises
it as He sees fit.

  But for ANY Christian who understands, we DO have the power that
created the universe in our finger tips!

  Moses used it to strike a rock in the desert and draw water from
that rock to quench the thirst of THOUSANDS.

 Moses used that power to turn his staff into a s****.

  Moses used that power to part the sea, so the Jews could cross on
dry land.

  Jesus used that power to calm a raging storm at sea (likely a
hurricane)

  Jesus used that power to rise from the dead after 3 days!

  We use that power in all sorts of ways today! My mother used that
power to heal herself of terminal cancer!


>
>Thanks for being honest with us!
  
   I always am!



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On Sun, 5 Aug 2007 11:10:30 -0700, "Mike Painter"
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> wrote:
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>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Sat, 4 Aug 2007 18:02:08 -0600, "_ Prof. Jonez _"
>> <theprof@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>  >
>>  I think -- no matter what you believe-- I don't get why any person
>> who calls himself/ herself an adult needs to RIDICULE those who see
>> things differently or who believe different.
>
>It would seem that John does not call himself an adult.

   chuckle.  Have you ever tried stand-up, with that SOH?

   I'd say, "keep your day job."

>His riducule and insults are legion.

   Ummmmm  you're projecting.  And "ridicule" is spelled with 2 "i"s.

   Stupid!

>
>>
>>  I don't get what would motivate anyone to refer to someone's God as
>> "Jayzus."
>>
>>  ???  What kind of behavior is that?  It's not ADULT behavior!
>>
>>  So much for the notion that everyone is tolerant!
>>
>> "not on Usenet!"
>>
>> john w
>
>Spend a little time on free.christians to see how John acts to see how 
>amusing this is.
>   John says, "I have a philosophy, which is that I apply EVERYTHING I 
say 
>to  myself first. "
>
>I suggest you stop responding to me.
>
>I will use and or reproduce all or part of this post as I see fit and 
>without requesting permission from John Weatherly. 
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Subject: Re: A Serious Challenge
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>
>"Falcon" <Falcon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>I have been watching the group for a long time and it seems that the
>> same thing happens over and over.  Myself, guilty as well at times.
>>
>> Why does everyone allow John W to turn it into his show?
>>
>> A few recent threads, for example.
>>
>> Hello--I'm new to the group
>>
>> Why did everyone allow this to be about John W?
>>
>> Happy Birthday, Scout Lady
>>
>> An occasion for SL that has turned to a John W show.  Why?
>>
>> Get a life John.....
>>
>> Feeding frenzy continues and even has evolved into nothing but John W
>> and no end in sight.
>>
>> Why do you all keep feeding him?  Why do you let him hijack decent
>> topics only to sink to his level.  Ponder a bit.  Are you all unable
>> to ignore and engage in meaningful conversations?  Pretty lame excuse
>> that others must be warned about him, etc.  Anyone with more than 5
>> or 6 functioning brain cells can figure him out in two posts or less.
>>
>> I would challenge you all to let it go.  Do not respond to his
>> nonsense and inane ramblings.  There is far more to life and our
>> calling than to continually respond by banging your head against a
>> brick wall of someone who feeds you the bait and it turns into a
>> feeding frenzy of give John W all the attention he wants.
>>
>> Not that it means much to anyone but I am a little disappointed that
>> John W seems to control so many folks on this newsgroup.  He talks,
>> everyone jumps to answer and in the process sinks to his level which
>> only adds more food to his frenzy.
>>
>> My challenge to everyone is to let it go, he is a lost cause and no
>> need to let him control you and let him dictate what you want to say.
>>
>> -- 
>> Ciao,
>> Falcon
>
>Absolutely.
>Totally agree.
>He is singly responsible for ruining most threads. 

  smirk.

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>On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:44:33 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>In article <f94pqn$ls7$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>>
>>> "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do 
nothing."
>>> 
>>> JohnH
>>
>>Absolutely
>
>
>I agree.
> John W NEEDS to be confronted, and corrected.

  Actually, sweety, the person who needs confronting and correcting,
and likely incarceration and INTENSE chemical therapy is YOU!



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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 22:18:05 -0000, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <kaseybeck61@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On Aug 5, 2:49 pm, Je...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>> Grow up Carl
>
>That's pretty funny coming from the person who loves to create non-
>sensical threads and posts.
>
  I don't believe I've seen Phar Lap be able to stay on topic in a
thread YET! And I've been aware of his stench for some 7 YEARS now!



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>On Mon, 06 Aug 2007 07:29:25 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (RedFox) wrote:
>
>>I don't think they are idle
>
>
>I honestly do, RedFox.
> John Weatherly is not in any position to 'sue' anyone, considering
>the number of crimes he's committed on his own.

  smirk.
   You are delusional, short bus!  If I had committed "a number of
crimes", I'd LONG since have been locked up!

;-)

  This is just another of your MANY lies.

john w

>He'd lose, point blank, and he would be the one having to pay all
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 16:58:34 -0400, Bible Bob <biblebob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
>John,
>
>Despite our differences we do have some similarities; age, veterans,
>and loved by God despite our flaws.
>
>When the free.christians group was formed it wasn't long until you
>popped up.

 ?????
   I have never KNOWINGLY posted to the free.christians group.


  Back then you wrote some good stuff.

   I still write good stuff!

  Stuff that blessed
>me that I was grateful for.

  I'm not sure how I can "bless" someone who is FLAGRANTLY anti-
Christian!

  If you REJECT good scholar****p, if you REJECT the accepted meanings
of HUNDREDS of passages of scripture (from John through Revelation),
if you REJECT God's divine nature (Father/Son/Holy Spirit), if you
REJECT FLATLY the God-in-flesh nature of Jesus Christ, I don't see
that the Bible itself will bless you; it will condemn you!


  Then came the pissing contests

?????

   "pissing contests?"
   You are delusional!  I have said a hundred times that due to my
illness (which I won't RE-state here) I am NOT a tactful person, I am
NOT subtle, and I am NOT diplomatic.  Take that or leave it; it's how
God made me!

 and they
>have been going on ever since with numerous people, male and female,
>Christian and non-Christian.

  I confront those who call themselves "Christians" who don't show
love!  Do you suffer the delusion that every person Jesus encountered
(who He loved) was a nice, quiet, well-behaved person with no
personality issues?
  roll on floor laughing!
  That's not true! Why else would He COMMAND us to love the unlovely?
  Because the world shuns them!
  Love isn't always kissy-face "nice."  Love can be "tough."  As in,
telling YOU if you don't get your act together, if you continue to
give host to the demonic, unclean spirits, you are bound for Hell;
that is YOUR choice! Take responsibility, and don't cast blame on me
for "telling it like it is!"

>
>How about setting aside the pissing contests for a while and replace
>them with articles that have the potential to bless people?

  What I post that's uplifting blesses the 3 or 4 people it's intended
for.
  
  Would you prefer that I take those articles to e-mail?

  If I'm ripping into Jimmy or Elaine or Galia or Cathy, it's not
intended for you. It's intended as a last-ditch feeble effort to shake
them awake (my duty) before I leave this place, which will be SHORTLY!

  (and a HUGE "Hurrah!" went up).

  My health no longer permits me to be in here. I can LITERALLY feel
my blood pressure rise every time I post to _____'s like you!
 And Elaine! And Cathy!
  People who NEVER say ONE nice thing to ME, but who demand that I say
nice things to THEM! 
   Bi-polar disorder doesn't work like that!

  You are
>not only evil continually as the people of Genesis 6:5 were. 

   I will that a blessing, as I consider you not only evil, but
possessed by evil spirits.

john w

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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:30:15 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>  I'm a journalist, stupid person!  I continue to think you're Elaine!
>>
>Oh? Really liar-johnnie?
>
>What latest news event have you covered? What year?

   You don't even know what a journalist is, Elaine!

   In its simplest for, a "journalist"  "journals."

>
>>   "libel" is a lie.
>>
>Right- and no one has libeled you yet, you horses' arse.

  Liar!  Every time you call me "short bus", you libel me. I'm not
retarded.

  Every time you call me a liar, you libel me.

   You haven't yet proved that I'm a habitual liar!  

>
>
>>   And very little of what Elaine the Crazy says about me or anyone
>>else is "the truth."
>
>You're a liar, as usual, liar-johnnie short bus.

    ^^  3 lies!

>
> Everything you post is a lie, and the archives prove it.

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Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
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>On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:28:58 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>    I suspect the only way you're going to figure out that you're not
>>the center of the known universe is for some LUCKY dude to knock you
>>on your ass and loosen a few teeth!
>>
>> I hope it's on the news, so I can have a good laugh!
>
>
>Leave it to the mental misfit 

  You're talking about yourself ("projecting") again, Elaine the
Insane Paine!

  You wish harm and evil on me almost every day!

  ;-)

  john w

to always wish evil and physical
>violence. That's just another reason so many of us call you SHORT BUS
>WEATHERLESS.

   "so many?"

    You're being delusional again!  You are evidently paranoid
schizophrenic!!
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Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
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>On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 22:36:56 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:34:17 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
wrote:
>>> 
>>>>   What I just can't deal with is him praying on the toliet,
>>>>   I thought the laughter would never quit..
>>>>
>>>>    Rod
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rod-
>>>  It was me who prayed while I was on the toilet- sick as I was, I
>>> prayed to God, and immediately felt He would help me. Christians can
>>> pray ANYWHERE.
>>>
>>    I'm sorry Elaine, I thought is was John doing that, and yes I 
laughed
>>    because the toilet is the LAST place I would think of to be 
praying.
>>
>No apology necessary, Rod. 

   Rod needs to apologize to ME!  What cha wanna bet he won't?

  john w

>
>>    Naturally, this proves that i should go back to using outhouse 
excess
>>    as a news reader since I can follow the lines in Tbird.
>>
>>    At least in outhouse you can follow the lines.
>>
>Hehehe!! The only thing is--- an unheated outhouse is mighty chilly on
>the buns in winter!!!!!!
>>
>>> 
>>>  I know it may have sounded funny, and I'm glad you got a chuckle out
>>> of it.
>>
>>
>>    I did indeed. I had a picture of all the evil John has done 
catching 
>>him on the throne!
>>
>>
>Most likely he'd be sucked down and flushed!
>
>>> I do also, come to think of the location. But when a Christian
>>> is desperate, and hoping for God's intervention, a Christian will 
pray
>>> anywhere. I was not ashamed to admit it then, not ashamed of it now,
>>> and should it ever happen again, I will pray again to Him from there.
>>
>>   Please Elaine, don't do that! Do it BEFORE you go in there. It's not
>>   a confessional! Just kidding.....
>>
>>   Rod
>Nut!~ :O)


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Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
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> wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:34:17 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> 
>>>   What I just can't deal with is him praying on the toliet,
>>>   I thought the laughter would never quit..
>>>
>>>    Rod
>> 
>> 
>> Rod-
>>  It was me who prayed while I was on the toilet- sick as I was, I
>> prayed to God, and immediately felt He would help me. Christians can
>> pray ANYWHERE.
>>
>    I'm sorry Elaine, I thought is was John doing that, and yes I 
laughed
>    because the toilet is the LAST place I would think of to be praying.

   Like I said, that comment doesn't seem NEARLY so absurd once you
understand that it was your best human bud who made it, now does it?

  See what your unfounded bigotry does to your brain?  If I had said
that, it would be RIDICULOUS!!   Your BUD, Elaine, said it, and now
it's "profound!"

  It doesn't matter where you pray, so long as you pray, Mr
narrow-minded, hating BIGOT!

  Funny how you LOVE to call others bigots, but you don't like it
nearly so much when it's applied to you, now do you?

;-)

  john w

>
>    Naturally, this proves that i should go back to using outhouse 
excess
>    as a news reader since I can follow the lines in Tbird.
>
>    At least in outhouse you can follow the lines.
>
>
>
>> 
>>  I know it may have sounded funny, and I'm glad you got a chuckle out
>> of it.
>
>
>    I did indeed. I had a picture of all the evil John has done catching 
>him on the throne!
>
>
>> I do also, come to think of the location. But when a Christian
>> is desperate, and hoping for God's intervention, a Christian will pray
>> anywhere. I was not ashamed to admit it then, not ashamed of it now,
>> and should it ever happen again, I will pray again to Him from there.
>
>   Please Elaine, don't do that! Do it BEFORE you go in there. It's not
>   a confessional! Just kidding.....
>
>   Rod


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>On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 14:34:17 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>>   What I just can't deal with is him praying on the toliet,
>>   I thought the laughter would never quit..
>>
>>    Rod
>
>
>Rod-
> It was me who prayed while I was on the toilet- sick as I was,

   And yet Rod accused ME of saying it!

   That comment wasn't NEARLY so absurd now that you know your best
human friend -- Elaine -- made it, now is it, Rod?


 john w
 I
>prayed to God, and immediately felt He would help me. Christians can
>pray ANYWHERE.
>
>
> I know it may have sounded funny, and I'm glad you got a chuckle out
>of it. I do also, come to think of the location. But when a Christian
>is desperate, and hoping for God's intervention, a Christian will pray
>anywhere. I was not ashamed to admit it then, not ashamed of it now,
>and should it ever happen again, I will pray again to Him from there.
> 


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Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
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On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 18:37:23 GMT, "Mike Painter"
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 © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
> > On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 00:16:23 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>  <Snip>
>>   ???
>John says,
>"  I have a philosophy, which is that I apply EVERYTHING I say to
> myself first. "
>Then John says to himself,
> >  YOu are truly a numbskull!
>>
>>  You aren't "dealing with your HATE!"
>>   You express it for others daily!

   For being such a genius, you sure miss a lot!

  tsk tsk
>>
>and we agree with him. 
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