>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
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>>>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:19:06 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>
>>>>><NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> wrote:
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>><NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:40:20 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> He said that we are to stay away from "mediums."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh? Show where, old boy. Put your money where your fat mouth is
for
>>>>>>>> once in your rotten, festering life.
>>>>>>>> Psychics help Police solve crimes as well---- so in your eyes,
>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>> a 'sin', is it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>FYI
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Do not turn to mediums or seek out spiritists, for you will be
defiled
>>>>>>>by
>>>>>>>them. I am the LORD your God.
>>>>>>>(Lev. 19:31)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I will set my face against the person who turns to mediums and
>>>>>>>spiritists
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>prostitute himself by following them, and I will cut him off from
his
>>>>>>>people.
>>>>>>>(Lev. 20:6)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put
to
>>>>>>>death.
>>>>>>>You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads.
>>>>>>>(Lev. 20:27)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>When you enter the land the LORD your God is giving you, do not
learn
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. Let no one be
found
>>>>>>>among
>>>>>>>you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices
>>>>>>>divination
>>>>>>>or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts
spells,
>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>who
>>>>>>>is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does
>>>>>>>these
>>>>>>>things is detestable to the LORD
>>>>>>>(Deut 18:9-12)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Psychic Communication and the Dead
>>>>>>>http://www.christianinformation.org/article.asp?artID=61
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So are you saying, Cathy - that psychics who help the authorities
>>>>>> solve long-cold crimes are to be put to death?
>>>>>>
>>>>>Doesn't scripture warn that satan masquerades as an angel of light?
>>>>
>>>> Cathy, you continue to attempt to advise someone who is no more
open
>>>> to other points of view than YOU are!
>>>> john w
>>>>
>>>You are confused again as I was responding to Elaine rather than to
you.
>>
>> "Cute!" NOT! I was referring to your attempting to advise ELAINE.
>> She's no more open to other POVs than YOU!
>>
>You are projecting again John.
Just following your example! Cathy!
:-)
It goes like this: If you can project (and you do), I can, too!
>
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Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:59:19 -0700
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>On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 01:53:16 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> It's AMAZING how a published author like you (with some 20 titles to
>>your credit), gets so bent out of shape over a TYPO!
>
>
>When did I claim I had 'some 20 titles to my credit', liar-johnnie?
I'm simply making fun of you, Elaine!
:-)
You do it to me daily!
How's a little backacha?
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:59:19 -0700
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 01:53:16 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> It's AMAZING how a published author like you (with some 20 titles to
>>your credit), gets so bent out of shape over a TYPO!
>
>
>When did I claim I had 'some 20 titles to my credit', liar-johnnie?
I'm simply making fun of you, Elaine!
:-)
You do it to me daily!
How's a little backacha?
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Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:58:32 -0700
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wrote:
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>On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 01:54:53 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>>You give me no respect because I haven't earned it!
>>
>> True, Elaine! You haven't earned any respect!
>
>
>Nice try at changing my original wording, old boy, but it won't work.
Just doing to you what you do to me FREQUENTLY!
:-)
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:58:32 -0700
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>On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 01:54:53 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>>You give me no respect because I haven't earned it!
>>
>> True, Elaine! You haven't earned any respect!
>
>
>Nice try at changing my original wording, old boy, but it won't work.
Just doing to you what you do to me FREQUENTLY!
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Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:57:56 -0700
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>In article <1185736746.069847.114220@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>"<~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>"
><ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>> No, you're the one in denial - about so many things (including who you
>> really are, which is why you protest against me, my "lifestyle" and
>> call me demeaning, ***ually harassing names as much as you do).
>
>Cutting through all this I just spent lunchtime with a friend and
>neighbour who is gay. She has just broken up with her partner.
>
>The real abomination in Christianity is the bigotry that bases itself on
>antiquated theology -
the theology of Christianity is solid. The concepts are as today as
the 21st Century.
most especially the bigotry that takes the form of
>homophobia - that even makes it necessary to create such a label
And "homophobia" is a false label, in that it falsely accuses people
of "being afraid" of homo***uals, which is typically NOT the case, and
is certainly not the case for Christians.
For the Christian, homo*** is spiritually as well as physically
unclean. It's not somethine we fear.
>
>I have known my friend for some ten years now . She is a fine, loving,
and
>honest, caring person who it is a delight to know
No doubt you think so! I am betting not all people who know her
agree.
Just like she undoubtedly thinks YOU are wonderful, but not everyone
who is aware of YOU agrees with her!
>
>How can anyone be expected to respect - let alone believe - a religion
>that has shown itself so incapable of getting this kind of interpersonal
>hatred and scorn under control.
How can people like you continue to lie and distort what Christianity
stands for?
You continue to peddle your LIES as the truth. You continue to
peddle your totally WARPED view of the world as "the truth." They're
not "The Truth." They're your twisted opinions.
I love my friend and will not let any
>mental disorder masquerading in the name of "Christianity" stand in the
>way of that love.
?????
What the HECK are you talking about? It's your twisted view of
Christianity that gets in the way.
No Christian and no Christianity will hinder you from loving your
friend!
I have had more than one friend who was homo***ual!
If love is a sentence to hell in any religion then it
>is that religion itself that stands condemned to an eternal and well
>deserved oblivion. In Jesus name bring it on!
A preacher, you're not!
You really think you can shake your fist in God's face and not bear
the penalty?
tsk tsk
Anyway, now that you've ranted, are you feeling better?
john w
>
>Thank God Christianity has people like Bishop Spong prepared to speak
out
>
>Without them it truly has nothing to offer
>
>Salvation - kiss my arse - No religion that allows the bigotry of
>homophobia has that on offer.
>
>QUOTE
>
>We are living in a time when a new consciousness is arising in which
there
>is a growing recognition that for homo***ual people their only "sin"
seems
>to be that they were born with a ***ual orientation different from that
of
>the majority. Yet we now know that orientation to be perfectly normal.
>
>It is like other minority positions within the human family:
>left-handedness, red hair. Minority positions, when not understood, tend
>to frighten people, and in their fear people strike out to protect
>themselves by rejecting and sometimes killing the different ones. That
is
>understandable; we know why it happens. But it is evil nonetheless, and
>when it is validated with appeals to God and "God's Word," its evil
>reaches demonic levels.
>
>That is where this debate now lies inside the religious institutions of
>the Western world. The entrenched fear is that if something the Bible
>calls an abomination becomes acceptable, then that which makes religious
>people different will disappear and the defining "Word of God" in the
>Bible will collapse, leaving believers unsure about who they are. The
>battle rages and ultimately the Bible quoters will lose. When they do,
>their religion will either change or it will die.
>
>Overwhelming scientific and medical knowledge exists today pointing to
an
>inescapable conclusion. ***ual orientation is not a moral choice. It is
>something to which people awaken. It is therefore not morally culpable.
>
>The texts in Leviticus 18 and 20 are simply wrong. They are morally
>incompetent because they are based on ignorance.
>
>They should be viewed, as should so much else in Leviticus and the rest
of
>the Torah, as stages in human development that we have outgrown, that we
>have been educated beyond and have therefore abandoned. To quote these
>texts to justify our prejudices and even our violence destroys the very
>essence of what Christians say they believe about God.
>
>The God who is love, the God who is heard through the words of Jesus
>promising life more abundantly, the description of the way others will
>recognize our desire to follow Jesus "by our love," all are violated if
>the texts of Leviticus 18 and 20 are given legitimacy.
>
>The time has come for all Christians to decide whether a person can
follow
>Christ and still maintain his or her homophobic prejudices. I do not
>believe that is possible. Deep down all of us know this to be true. The
>decision is not both/and; it is either/or. We can either follow Christ
or
>maintain our prejudices. There can be no compromise. The contending
>positions are mutually exclusive. There must be no wavering. Leviticus
18
>and 20 cannot be allowed to remain in the lexicon of Christian behavior.
>
>It is also no longer a morally defensible argument for hierarchical
>figures to protect the destructive homophobia of some leaders and church
>members in order "to preserve the unity of the church." A church unified
>in prejudice cannot possibly be the Body of Christ. Can anyone imagine a
>church preserving its unity by tolerating slavery in its midst? Is there
>any difference between that situation and tolerating homophobia? Any
>prejudice based upon who a person is, his or her very being as a child
of
>God, cannot be a part of the church's life. Quoting Leviticus to justify
>our prejudices is no longer an option. '
>
>John Shelby Spong (Bishop of Newark retired)
>
>From "The Sins of Scripture"
>
>Posted as a recommendation
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:57:56 -0700
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On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 14:38:16 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(RedFox) wrote:
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>In article <1185736746.069847.114220@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>"<~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>"
><ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>> No, you're the one in denial - about so many things (including who you
>> really are, which is why you protest against me, my "lifestyle" and
>> call me demeaning, ***ually harassing names as much as you do).
>
>Cutting through all this I just spent lunchtime with a friend and
>neighbour who is gay. She has just broken up with her partner.
>
>The real abomination in Christianity is the bigotry that bases itself on
>antiquated theology -
the theology of Christianity is solid. The concepts are as today as
the 21st Century.
most especially the bigotry that takes the form of
>homophobia - that even makes it necessary to create such a label
And "homophobia" is a false label, in that it falsely accuses people
of "being afraid" of homo***uals, which is typically NOT the case, and
is certainly not the case for Christians.
For the Christian, homo*** is spiritually as well as physically
unclean. It's not somethine we fear.
>
>I have known my friend for some ten years now . She is a fine, loving,
and
>honest, caring person who it is a delight to know
No doubt you think so! I am betting not all people who know her
agree.
Just like she undoubtedly thinks YOU are wonderful, but not everyone
who is aware of YOU agrees with her!
>
>How can anyone be expected to respect - let alone believe - a religion
>that has shown itself so incapable of getting this kind of interpersonal
>hatred and scorn under control.
How can people like you continue to lie and distort what Christianity
stands for?
You continue to peddle your LIES as the truth. You continue to
peddle your totally WARPED view of the world as "the truth." They're
not "The Truth." They're your twisted opinions.
I love my friend and will not let any
>mental disorder masquerading in the name of "Christianity" stand in the
>way of that love.
?????
What the HECK are you talking about? It's your twisted view of
Christianity that gets in the way.
No Christian and no Christianity will hinder you from loving your
friend!
I have had more than one friend who was homo***ual!
If love is a sentence to hell in any religion then it
>is that religion itself that stands condemned to an eternal and well
>deserved oblivion. In Jesus name bring it on!
A preacher, you're not!
You really think you can shake your fist in God's face and not bear
the penalty?
tsk tsk
Anyway, now that you've ranted, are you feeling better?
john w
>
>Thank God Christianity has people like Bishop Spong prepared to speak
out
>
>Without them it truly has nothing to offer
>
>Salvation - kiss my arse - No religion that allows the bigotry of
>homophobia has that on offer.
>
>QUOTE
>
>We are living in a time when a new consciousness is arising in which
there
>is a growing recognition that for homo***ual people their only "sin"
seems
>to be that they were born with a ***ual orientation different from that
of
>the majority. Yet we now know that orientation to be perfectly normal.
>
>It is like other minority positions within the human family:
>left-handedness, red hair. Minority positions, when not understood, tend
>to frighten people, and in their fear people strike out to protect
>themselves by rejecting and sometimes killing the different ones. That
is
>understandable; we know why it happens. But it is evil nonetheless, and
>when it is validated with appeals to God and "God's Word," its evil
>reaches demonic levels.
>
>That is where this debate now lies inside the religious institutions of
>the Western world. The entrenched fear is that if something the Bible
>calls an abomination becomes acceptable, then that which makes religious
>people different will disappear and the defining "Word of God" in the
>Bible will collapse, leaving believers unsure about who they are. The
>battle rages and ultimately the Bible quoters will lose. When they do,
>their religion will either change or it will die.
>
>Overwhelming scientific and medical knowledge exists today pointing to
an
>inescapable conclusion. ***ual orientation is not a moral choice. It is
>something to which people awaken. It is therefore not morally culpable.
>
>The texts in Leviticus 18 and 20 are simply wrong. They are morally
>incompetent because they are based on ignorance.
>
>They should be viewed, as should so much else in Leviticus and the rest
of
>the Torah, as stages in human development that we have outgrown, that we
>have been educated beyond and have therefore abandoned. To quote these
>texts to justify our prejudices and even our violence destroys the very
>essence of what Christians say they believe about God.
>
>The God who is love, the God who is heard through the words of Jesus
>promising life more abundantly, the description of the way others will
>recognize our desire to follow Jesus "by our love," all are violated if
>the texts of Leviticus 18 and 20 are given legitimacy.
>
>The time has come for all Christians to decide whether a person can
follow
>Christ and still maintain his or her homophobic prejudices. I do not
>believe that is possible. Deep down all of us know this to be true. The
>decision is not both/and; it is either/or. We can either follow Christ
or
>maintain our prejudices. There can be no compromise. The contending
>positions are mutually exclusive. There must be no wavering. Leviticus
18
>and 20 cannot be allowed to remain in the lexicon of Christian behavior.
>
>It is also no longer a morally defensible argument for hierarchical
>figures to protect the destructive homophobia of some leaders and church
>members in order "to preserve the unity of the church." A church unified
>in prejudice cannot possibly be the Body of Christ. Can anyone imagine a
>church preserving its unity by tolerating slavery in its midst? Is there
>any difference between that situation and tolerating homophobia? Any
>prejudice based upon who a person is, his or her very being as a child
of
>God, cannot be a part of the church's life. Quoting Leviticus to justify
>our prejudices is no longer an option. '
>
>John Shelby Spong (Bishop of Newark retired)
>
>From "The Sins of Scripture"
>
>Posted as a recommendation
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist,free.christians
Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:51:57 -0700
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 14:23:20 -0700, "Vernono O" <Here @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>
>"Scout Lady" <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:5hefbgF3kjns7U3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> "Vernono O" <Here @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:46b1fb90$0$20153$882e0bbb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> "Scout Lady" <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> news:5heb92F3i4hstU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>
>>>> "John Henry" <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>> news:f8qdbs$he$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Scout Lady wrote:
>>>>>> "<~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>"
>>>>>> <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1185816516.590017.192240@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 9:55 am, NOs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you're a lesbian, as you have yourself admitted, you do.
>>>>>>> So then, by default (and using your own twisted "reasoning"), as
a
>>>>>>> alleged "STRAIGHT" woman, you look at men lustfully.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Correct?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I sure as hell do but only the really hot hunks.
>>>>> Scout, this time, would you please answer my question? It might or
it
>>>>> might not help me make a point with Kelly. I'll paste it in here.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you could not open your eyes, and a splendid assortment of
"really
>>>>> hot hunks" walked by you, could you still lust after them? (Oh,
and
>>>>> let's assume that you're neither Super Girl nor Wonder Woman, thus
>>>>> without superhuman powers.)
>>>>>>
>>>> Of course I could, probably even more so.
>>>>
>>>> As for you and Kelly I am not sure what you are arguing about. Maybe
>>>> this will help
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yu5wbn
>>>>
>>>> BTW, there must be a reason that most **** is marketed to males and
>>>> romance novels are marketed for women.
Then there's the theory that "romance novels" are women's ****!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Lust, physical and imaginary.
>>> Or
>>> Self gratification for what is perceived to be missing.
>>> Or
>>> Psycho ego.
>>>
>> Although you are correct I was making the point that men seek visual
means
>> while women seek emotional means.
I don't think there's a hard rule that says "...men..." "...while
women...". More like, "..many men..." ".. while many women..."
>
>Yes, I understood that as a good statement.
>
>Either way they both actually have physical responses. No, I'm not
>referring to anything external or crude.
>Another variation is tem****ary vs. possibly days reaction. I've seen
women
>react for days over a story or movie.
>
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist,free.christians
Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:51:57 -0700
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 14:23:20 -0700, "Vernono O" <Here @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>
>"Scout Lady" <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:5hefbgF3kjns7U3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> "Vernono O" <Here @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:46b1fb90$0$20153$882e0bbb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> "Scout Lady" <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "John Henry" <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>> news:f8qdbs$he$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Scout Lady wrote:
>>>>>> "<~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>"
>>>>>> <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:1185816516.590017.192240@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> On Jul 30, 9:55 am, NOs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you're a lesbian, as you have yourself admitted, you do.
>>>>>>> So then, by default (and using your own twisted "reasoning"), as
a
>>>>>>> alleged "STRAIGHT" woman, you look at men lustfully.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Correct?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I sure as hell do but only the really hot hunks.
>>>>> Scout, this time, would you please answer my question? It might or
it
>>>>> might not help me make a point with Kelly. I'll paste it in here.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you could not open your eyes, and a splendid assortment of
"really
>>>>> hot hunks" walked by you, could you still lust after them? (Oh,
and
>>>>> let's assume that you're neither Super Girl nor Wonder Woman, thus
>>>>> without superhuman powers.)
>>>>>>
>>>> Of course I could, probably even more so.
>>>>
>>>> As for you and Kelly I am not sure what you are arguing about. Maybe
>>>> this will help
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yu5wbn
>>>>
>>>> BTW, there must be a reason that most **** is marketed to males and
>>>> romance novels are marketed for women.
Then there's the theory that "romance novels" are women's ****!
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Lust, physical and imaginary.
>>> Or
>>> Self gratification for what is perceived to be missing.
>>> Or
>>> Psycho ego.
>>>
>> Although you are correct I was making the point that men seek visual
means
>> while women seek emotional means.
I don't think there's a hard rule that says "...men..." "...while
women...". More like, "..many men..." ".. while many women..."
>
>Yes, I understood that as a good statement.
>
>Either way they both actually have physical responses. No, I'm not
>referring to anything external or crude.
>Another variation is tem****ary vs. possibly days reaction. I've seen
women
>react for days over a story or movie.
>
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:14:24 -0700
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:46:03 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
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>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:12:18 GMT, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:01:17 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:20:42 GMT, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:00:27 -0700, "<~(Hey,
>>>>>>>> WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>"
<ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 5:23 pm, NOs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am - and a STRAIGHT one.
>>>>>>>>> Well, at least you're admitting that it's possible to be
Christian and
>>>>>>>>> gay. But it does seem that you are working real hard to
convince me
>>>>>>>>> that you're "STRAIGHT".
>>>>>>>> Actually, she's likely A-***ual. Rumor is that she's 55 or so,
and a
>>>>>>>> VIRGIN.
>>>>>>> Good for her !
>>>>>> LOL!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It takes class to remain intact and moral,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you think she's a virgin by choice?
>>>>>> rotflmao.
>>>>> Yes. R U a retard by choice ???
>>>> I'm not a retard, Rod!
>>>
>>> R u then a male whore by choice ? Thats what men become
>>> when they lay with every woman they can get their hands
>>> on, and they certainly don't hesitate to use that same
>>> term on women when they have more than one partner!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> But you can continue to prove that you're as childish, as
>>>> pathological as Elaine, if you like!
>>> And you continue in your idiocy..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ADULTS and the mentally HEALTHY are prone to be BETTER as they
age.
>>>
>>> What stunted your growth ??
>>>
>>>> Children and the mentally unhealthy such as you and Elaine
>>>> deteriorate.
>>>
>>> A diagnoses from "Mr.Bipolar"! I need to frame this one....
>>
>> Rod, all you prove by such comments, AND by your posting history,
>> is that you are a sociopath (you could not care less how your UGLY
>> words are received), and that you are simply among the walking
>> un-diagnosed.
>> And un-treated.
>>
>> There IS hope for your unresolved RAGE, Rod.
>
>
> This may be the only time you've been partially right about me,
> sociopathic I'm not as I have a conscience and know right from
> wrong, so I can't exercise that excuse.
Before you write me off yet AGAIN, let me assure you that I did my
graduate studies in psychology. I got as far as diagnostics before I
had to quit. But I am roughly 1/2 the way to a MFC, with the goal of
being a Licensed Clinical Psychologist (Ph D)
A sociopath (Adolph Hitler, Mussolini, Idi Amin, Charles Manson) is
bright enough (the exception would be Charlie) to know right from
wrong. The sociopath simply DOES NOT CARE.
You, Rod, strike me (I could be wrong), but you strike me as one who
simply does not give a damn.
If it were otherwise
> the guy that killed my mom would be dealing with me from behind
> the walls of the pen.
zzzzzz it is easy to express bravado from your keyboard. Many a
JERK in here has said the ugliest things to me over the web. When I
pointed out that I didn't believe for a moment that they'd fly to
Seattle and say such to my FACE, they backed down. You were one such,
as I recall.
The sociopath (you, I believe) does things in anger (no visible
restraints) that the healthy person THINKS about, but restrains
himself from.
When you find it CUTE to accuse me of being "queer" (about the
lowest blow one male can throw at another), you prove that you don't
give a G* damn what I think about that, or how I receive it.
You are QUICK to call me psychotic, because you think that's cute.
"find a mentally ill person, and call him a "psycho", just for fun!"
It doesn't hurt me (not that you care), but it does say a LOT about
YOU!
>
> In December of 2012 this guy is up for parole. He receievd a life
> sentence with possibility of parole after 40 years, and mom is in
> the grave forever.
And since you still have 5 years, I suggest that you find yourself
some intelligent, working therapy. You just AGAIN expressed
un-resolved RAGE.
I could tell you a DOZEN such stories about MY life. Like the guy I
moved in with in Tacoma 5 years ago, who began plotting the day he met
me, "If I let this guy move in, I can STEAL EVERYTHING he owns!" I
happen to have been The Family Archive. Some 5 generations of family
pictures, and 100 years or so of family TREASURES (some of REAL value,
like 3 $500 bottles of French/Paris perfume)
he decided he could STEAL.
All those years of ac***ulated treasures (worth NOTHING to him) are
now GONE. What's not in a landfill, he SOLD for the MONEY!
You don't think I HATE?
Would I KILL him? No.
Beat him within an inch of his life? Probably.
>
> If he knows whats good for him he had better learn to love those
> bars.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your behavior most certainly has not "grown" or "evolved."
>
> I'll have plenty of time to de-evolve in the grave...
That's not an answer a healthy adult would give.
You are EXCUSING your rage rather than dealing with it. And anyone
who gives you a different take (like mine on gun owner****p)
becomes the wrong target of your displaced RAGE.
You COULD get help if you want it. But going after the guy in
prison, or coming after me... either could get YOU 6 feet under!
Give THAT some thought! What a waste of YOUR life that would be!
If you could put away the rage, you might even find yourself
CONTRIBUTING!
I have turned my anger into ART. Writing, poetry, photography.
>
>
> >
>>>>
>>>> You just a couple of days ago "turned over a new leaf."
>>> It wasn't a couple of days ago either..
>>
>> I was being generous. My mistake!
>>>
>>>
>>>> I said, "this I MUST see."
>>>>
>>>> True enough! It didn't take you a day to return to the childish
>>>> rants.
>>> Look who is talking !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> But, don't you EXPECT the "childish rants" from ME? After all, your
>> voice has certainly joined the cacophony of those who call me "crazy",
>> and 'insane."
>>
>> What if you're WORSE off than I am, but you are not diagnosed, and
>> not treated?
>>
>> If I were THAT bad off, I'd be in a locked facility! I AM in
>> treatment!
>>
>> YOU, however, like Elaine, like Galia, like Jimmy, like Cathy,
>> are undiagnosed, and untreated.
>
> Those folks don't appear to have these kinds of problems,
> if they do they are hiding it really well.
>
>
>
>>
>> So don't point fingers at me!
>
>
> Then stop doing it yourself.
>
>
>>
>> I was mentally ill from BIRTH, and yet I functioned and was
>> PRODUCTIVE for MANY years.
>
>
> I'm sorry John, but I'm glad to know YOU feel you've productive.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>> And what do you think is wrong with that ?
>>>> There is absolutely nothing wrong with CHOOSING to be celibate.
I
>>>> have known several people who have made that choice.
>>>>
>>>> HOWEVER, if you had been around 5 or 6 Years ago, when Elaine was
>>>> WHINING about being single, for Elaine, singleness and celibacy
have
>>>> NOT been "a choice."
>>>>
>>>> And so what if she has
>>>>> never married or had children ? Perhaps the right person never
came
>>>>> along, or maybe the right one did come along and hurt her! I'm
not
>>>>> going to rag on her about her choices,
>>>> That's entirely up to you!
>>>>
>>>> But as much as she rags on ME for no reason other than her RAGE,
I'm
>>>> not going go coddle her.
>>> I'll bet she's happy about that one, only in your case I'd
>>> wager a guess and say it would be more like groping and drooling
>>> then coddling!
>>
>> You're too kind! That's called the sociopathic result of untreated,
>> unresolved RAGE!
>> And-- as with most sociopaths, you are hurting only you!
>
> Sounds like you pulled this diagnosis out of thin air. Sounds
> kind of wimpy and weak to me.
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>> just like I couldn't find
>>>>> happiness being single she may not have found it being married.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Seriously, Rod, would YOU marry a HATER like her?
>>>>> Just because Elaine has the good sense not to get close to you
>>>>> doesn't make her a hater.
>>>> Rod, you TRULY should shut up when you know so little! I have
known
>>>> Elaine for some 7 YEARS now.
>>>
>>> And in that time you haven't learned a damned thing about anyone
>>> because you to busy flapping your gums and spreading lies and
>>> bull****!
>>>
>>>
>>>> All that has happened is one of two things:
>>>> 1. she has you completely fooled (wasn't all that difficult)
>>>>
>>>> 2. you're as crazy as she is.
>>>>
>>>> I can think of NO good reason whatsoever other than Elaine's
INSANE
>>>> ranting and unresolved RAGE for her to insult anyone (including me)
>>>> with such low blows as "short bus."
>
> Your diagnoses of me may possibly be one very good reason. A mental
> illness such as yours is distorts the perceptions enough to make
> it unreliable in many cases.
>
>
>
> Rod
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist,free.christians
Subject: Re: Get a life John.....
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:14:24 -0700
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 14:46:03 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 18:12:18 GMT, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 00:01:17 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 02:20:42 GMT, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 19:00:27 -0700, "<~(Hey,
>>>>>>>> WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>"
<ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 5:23 pm, NOs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am - and a STRAIGHT one.
>>>>>>>>> Well, at least you're admitting that it's possible to be
Christian and
>>>>>>>>> gay. But it does seem that you are working real hard to
convince me
>>>>>>>>> that you're "STRAIGHT".
>>>>>>>> Actually, she's likely A-***ual. Rumor is that she's 55 or so,
and a
>>>>>>>> VIRGIN.
>>>>>>> Good for her !
>>>>>> LOL!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It takes class to remain intact and moral,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So you think she's a virgin by choice?
>>>>>> rotflmao.
>>>>> Yes. R U a retard by choice ???
>>>> I'm not a retard, Rod!
>>>
>>> R u then a male whore by choice ? Thats what men become
>>> when they lay with every woman they can get their hands
>>> on, and they certainly don't hesitate to use that same
>>> term on women when they have more than one partner!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> But you can continue to prove that you're as childish, as
>>>> pathological as Elaine, if you like!
>>> And you continue in your idiocy..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> ADULTS and the mentally HEALTHY are prone to be BETTER as they
age.
>>>
>>> What stunted your growth ??
>>>
>>>> Children and the mentally unhealthy such as you and Elaine
>>>> deteriorate.
>>>
>>> A diagnoses from "Mr.Bipolar"! I need to frame this one....
>>
>> Rod, all you prove by such comments, AND by your posting history,
>> is that you are a sociopath (you could not care less how your UGLY
>> words are received), and that you are simply among the walking
>> un-diagnosed.
>> And un-treated.
>>
>> There IS hope for your unresolved RAGE, Rod.
>
>
> This may be the only time you've been partially right about me,
> sociopathic I'm not as I have a conscience and know right from
> wrong, so I can't exercise that excuse.
Before you write me off yet AGAIN, let me assure you that I did my
graduate studies in psychology. I got as far as diagnostics before I
had to quit. But I am roughly 1/2 the way to a MFC, with the goal of
being a Licensed Clinical Psychologist (Ph D)
A sociopath (Adolph Hitler, Mussolini, Idi Amin, Charles Manson) is
bright enough (the exception would be Charlie) to know right from
wrong. The sociopath simply DOES NOT CARE.
You, Rod, strike me (I could be wrong), but you strike me as one who
simply does not give a damn.
If it were otherwise
> the guy that killed my mom would be dealing with me from behind
> the walls of the pen.
zzzzzz it is easy to express bravado from your keyboard. Many a
JERK in here has said the ugliest things to me over the web. When I
pointed out that I didn't believe for a moment that they'd fly to
Seattle and say such to my FACE, they backed down. You were one such,
as I recall.
The sociopath (you, I believe) does things in anger (no visible
restraints) that the healthy person THINKS about, but restrains
himself from.
When you find it CUTE to accuse me of being "queer" (about the
lowest blow one male can throw at another), you prove that you don't
give a G* damn what I think about that, or how I receive it.
You are QUICK to call me psychotic, because you think that's cute.
"find a mentally ill person, and call him a "psycho", just for fun!"
It doesn't hurt me (not that you care), but it does say a LOT about
YOU!
>
> In December of 2012 this guy is up for parole. He receievd a life
> sentence with possibility of parole after 40 years, and mom is in
> the grave forever.
And since you still have 5 years, I suggest that you find yourself
some intelligent, working therapy. You just AGAIN expressed
un-resolved RAGE.
I could tell you a DOZEN such stories about MY life. Like the guy I
moved in with in Tacoma 5 years ago, who began plotting the day he met
me, "If I let this guy move in, I can STEAL EVERYTHING he owns!" I
happen to have been The Family Archive. Some 5 generations of family
pictures, and 100 years or so of family TREASURES (some of REAL value,
like 3 $500 bottles of French/Paris perfume)
he decided he could STEAL.
All those years of ac***ulated treasures (worth NOTHING to him) are
now GONE. What's not in a landfill, he SOLD for the MONEY!
You don't think I HATE?
Would I KILL him? No.
Beat him within an inch of his life? Probably.
>
> If he knows whats good for him he had better learn to love those
> bars.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Your behavior most certainly has not "grown" or "evolved."
>
> I'll have plenty of time to de-evolve in the grave...
That's not an answer a healthy adult would give.
You are EXCUSING your rage rather than dealing with it. And anyone
who gives you a different take (like mine on gun owner****p)
becomes the wrong target of your displaced RAGE.
You COULD get help if you want it. But going after the guy in
prison, or coming after me... either could get YOU 6 feet under!
Give THAT some thought! What a waste of YOUR life that would be!
If you could put away the rage, you might even find yourself
CONTRIBUTING!
I have turned my anger into ART. Writing, poetry, photography.
>
>
> >
>>>>
>>>> You just a couple of days ago "turned over a new leaf."
>>> It wasn't a couple of days ago either..
>>
>> I was being generous. My mistake!
>>>
>>>
>>>> I said, "this I MUST see."
>>>>
>>>> True enough! It didn't take you a day to return to the childish
>>>> rants.
>>> Look who is talking !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> But, don't you EXPECT the "childish rants" from ME? After all, your
>> voice has certainly joined the cacophony of those who call me "crazy",
>> and 'insane."
>>
>> What if you're WORSE off than I am, but you are not diagnosed, and
>> not treated?
>>
>> If I were THAT bad off, I'd be in a locked facility! I AM in
>> treatment!
>>
>> YOU, however, like Elaine, like Galia, like Jimmy, like Cathy,
>> are undiagnosed, and untreated.
>
> Those folks don't appear to have these kinds of problems,
> if they do they are hiding it really well.
>
>
>
>>
>> So don't point fingers at me!
>
>
> Then stop doing it yourself.
>
>
>>
>> I was mentally ill from BIRTH, and yet I functioned and was
>> PRODUCTIVE for MANY years.
>
>
> I'm sorry John, but I'm glad to know YOU feel you've productive.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>> And what do you think is wrong with that ?
>>>> There is absolutely nothing wrong with CHOOSING to be celibate.
I
>>>> have known several people who have made that choice.
>>>>
>>>> HOWEVER, if you had been around 5 or 6 Years ago, when Elaine was
>>>> WHINING about being single, for Elaine, singleness and celibacy
have
>>>> NOT been "a choice."
>>>>
>>>> And so what if she has
>>>>> never married or had children ? Perhaps the right person never
came
>>>>> along, or maybe the right one did come along and hurt her! I'm
not
>>>>> going to rag on her about her choices,
>>>> That's entirely up to you!
>>>>
>>>> But as much as she rags on ME for no reason other than her RAGE,
I'm
>>>> not going go coddle her.
>>> I'll bet she's happy about that one, only in your case I'd
>>> wager a guess and say it would be more like groping and drooling
>>> then coddling!
>>
>> You're too kind! That's called the sociopathic result of untreated,
>> unresolved RAGE!
>> And-- as with most sociopaths, you are hurting only you!
>
> Sounds like you pulled this diagnosis out of thin air. Sounds
> kind of wimpy and weak to me.
>
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>> just like I couldn't find
>>>>> happiness being single she may not have found it being married.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Seriously, Rod, would YOU marry a HATER like her?
>>>>> Just because Elaine has the good sense not to get close to you
>>>>> doesn't make her a hater.
>>>> Rod, you TRULY should shut up when you know so little! I have
known
>>>> Elaine for some 7 YEARS now.
>>>
>>> And in that time you haven't learned a damned thing about anyone
>>> because you to busy flapping your gums and spreading lies and
>>> bull****!
>>>
>>>
>>>> All that has happened is one of two things:
>>>> 1. she has you completely fooled (wasn't all that difficult)
>>>>
>>>> 2. you're as crazy as she is.
>>>>
>>>> I can think of NO good reason whatsoever other than Elaine's
INSANE
>>>> ranting and unresolved RAGE for her to insult anyone (including me)
>>>> with such low blows as "short bus."
>
> Your diagnoses of me may possibly be one very good reason. A mental
> illness such as yours is distorts the perceptions enough to make
> it unreliable in many cases.
>
>
>
> Rod
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Mass murder threat from St ****o the disgusting
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:02:14 -0700
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 12:10:03 -0400, "Scout Lady" <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> wrote:
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>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>
>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:36:03 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>
>>>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:50:43 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>>>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
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>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:51:43 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>>>>>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:qe4ma3dr3bq11tdgll4qqbvjq29o9jr0u8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:15:58 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(RedFox)
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of
this
>>>>>>>>>> post
>>>>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
>>>>>>>>>> author.
>>>>>>>>>>>In article <h82la3tf1u6am655cfc745jki2uv3f7n8f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john
w
>>>>>>>>>>><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I see mass murder in your family in the future!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Only someone with your twisted mind could get "Mass murder
>>>>>>>>>> threat"
>>>>>>>>>> from what I said!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What I said was totally metaphorical, demon!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I said that I saw a mass murderer or two in Cathy's family!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> john w
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>From: John W <john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>>>Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
>>>>>>>>>Subject: So, As the News Blares This AM, that a 2nd Osama tape
has
>>>>>>>>>Appeared
>>>>>>>>>Message-ID: <hk5n4vcc276sgg559ddmtj9452i48f8nap@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>>>Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:07:57 -0800
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>So, As the News Blares This AM, that a 2nd Osama tape has
Appeared
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I see a nuclear launch by N Korea in the next week or so. I see
a
>>>>>>>>>response from our west coast, but my area, Seattle, will likely
be a
>>>>>>>>>first hit. That will be my answer to prayer; I'll be taken out
>>>>>>>>>first.
>>>>>>>>>I pray my son will follow VERY shortly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Expect a hit on the Eastern seaboard, and a third, wherever the
Al
>>>>>>>>>Quaida have planted the one of 2 or 3 missing briefcase bombs.
>>>>>>>>>Nuclear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Whether Russia will join the nuclear fray is doubtful, but All
sides
>>>>>>>>>will probably stand down momentarily, and then enter State Left,
the
>>>>>>>>>Anti-Christ with a 7-year Peace Treaty in his hand.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Those who are attuned will be able to connect the dots. So far,
the
>>>>>>>>>scenario I've foreseen is happening.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The News just announced that the Muslim holy day has ended, and
as
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>this moment, 0504 PST, we can expect a nuclear attack on America
at
>>>>>>>>>any time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Pray for our nation as the war comes to our shores. Perhaps this
is
>>>>>>>>>America's payback for ther national sins, such as America
ignoring
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>children stolen by our corrupt governments.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Was there a point there somewhere, Cathy?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Didn't think so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You don't think John.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I gave my own honest opinion of what I saw coming at that time.
>>>>>> My opinion hasn't changed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>The fact that it didn't happen does not change anything for you?
>>>>
>>>> No. It doesn't. I understand (some scholars believe) that when the
>>>> apostles wrote their End Times prophesies (like about the 2nd
Coming),
>>>> they believed it was going to happen "any day."
>>>>
>>>> I also didn't say I was giving "prophesy." That was a
>>>> mis-interpretation (convenient) that several people made.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK......
>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, since I'm not a Roman Catholic, you see no reason to
pay
>>>>>> me any attention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>What does religion have to do with the fact that you claimed to see
>>>>>things
>>>>>that didn't happen?
>>>>
>>>> I didn't say when.
>>>
>>>Yes you did. On Feb 13, 2003 you wrote "I see a nuclear launch by N
Korea
>>>in
>>>the next week or so."
>>
>> Congrats! You got me! I had forgotten that I'd said "in the next
>> week or so."
>> Many believe that the apostles also indicated that the 2nd Coming
>> would take place within their lifetime.
>>
>
>So now you are comparing yourself to the Apostles?
"Double standard" (Jesus called it "two sets of weights")
>
>> So if you're gonna bust me, you have to bust "the first pope", too!
>>
>> Are you gonna bust the 12?
>>
>> I think you aren't!
>>
>I am not under the same impression that you are John, that is, I don't
>believe the Apostles taught falsely concerning the 2nd coming. I do know
>that you made a prediction based on what you claimed to have seen and it
was
>totally false since it never occurred.
>
>> But since you don't like me (that's fine/ I don't like you), you get
>> on MY back!
>>
>> smirk.
>>
>inappropriate affect
>>
>>>
>>>> And Noah's neighbors teased and taunted him until the rain started.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "That's perfectly fine with me."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am obligated to share my POV. You are not obligated to listen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>You are obligated to share your POV?
>>>>
>>>> Correct.
>>>>
>>>> To whom where you obligated to share
>>>>>such nonsense to?
>>>>
>>>> Such a question doesn't merit answering. (I don't care for your
>>>> tone)
>>>>>
>>>You are nuts.
>>
>> You are, too!
>>
>Yet only a nut thinks so.
>
>> Did you stick out your tongue at your monitor like I'm doing?
>>
>Of course not, I am an adult.
>
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Mass murder threat from St ****o the disgusting
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:02:14 -0700
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>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>news:5v43b39od22v6b9rtaumsp3evo705ktbq7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:40:14 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>
>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>news:k87ta3lcm5qoa2kv4ccir9so527e16pf9b@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:36:03 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>
>>>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 08:50:43 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>>>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:51:43 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>>>>>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:qe4ma3dr3bq11tdgll4qqbvjq29o9jr0u8@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 18:15:58 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(RedFox)
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of
this
>>>>>>>>>> post
>>>>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
>>>>>>>>>> author.
>>>>>>>>>>>In article <h82la3tf1u6am655cfc745jki2uv3f7n8f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john
w
>>>>>>>>>>><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I see mass murder in your family in the future!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Only someone with your twisted mind could get "Mass murder
>>>>>>>>>> threat"
>>>>>>>>>> from what I said!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What I said was totally metaphorical, demon!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I said that I saw a mass murderer or two in Cathy's family!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> john w
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>From: John W <john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>>>Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
>>>>>>>>>Subject: So, As the News Blares This AM, that a 2nd Osama tape
has
>>>>>>>>>Appeared
>>>>>>>>>Message-ID: <hk5n4vcc276sgg559ddmtj9452i48f8nap@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>>>Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 05:07:57 -0800
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>So, As the News Blares This AM, that a 2nd Osama tape has
Appeared
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I see a nuclear launch by N Korea in the next week or so. I see
a
>>>>>>>>>response from our west coast, but my area, Seattle, will likely
be a
>>>>>>>>>first hit. That will be my answer to prayer; I'll be taken out
>>>>>>>>>first.
>>>>>>>>>I pray my son will follow VERY shortly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Expect a hit on the Eastern seaboard, and a third, wherever the
Al
>>>>>>>>>Quaida have planted the one of 2 or 3 missing briefcase bombs.
>>>>>>>>>Nuclear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Whether Russia will join the nuclear fray is doubtful, but All
sides
>>>>>>>>>will probably stand down momentarily, and then enter State Left,
the
>>>>>>>>>Anti-Christ with a 7-year Peace Treaty in his hand.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Those who are attuned will be able to connect the dots. So far,
the
>>>>>>>>>scenario I've foreseen is happening.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The News just announced that the Muslim holy day has ended, and
as
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>this moment, 0504 PST, we can expect a nuclear attack on America
at
>>>>>>>>>any time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Pray for our nation as the war comes to our shores. Perhaps this
is
>>>>>>>>>America's payback for ther national sins, such as America
ignoring
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>children stolen by our corrupt governments.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Was there a point there somewhere, Cathy?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Didn't think so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You don't think John.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I gave my own honest opinion of what I saw coming at that time.
>>>>>> My opinion hasn't changed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>The fact that it didn't happen does not change anything for you?
>>>>
>>>> No. It doesn't. I understand (some scholars believe) that when the
>>>> apostles wrote their End Times prophesies (like about the 2nd
Coming),
>>>> they believed it was going to happen "any day."
>>>>
>>>> I also didn't say I was giving "prophesy." That was a
>>>> mis-interpretation (convenient) that several people made.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK......
>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course, since I'm not a Roman Catholic, you see no reason to
pay
>>>>>> me any attention.
>>>>>>
>>>>>What does religion have to do with the fact that you claimed to see
>>>>>things
>>>>>that didn't happen?
>>>>
>>>> I didn't say when.
>>>
>>>Yes you did. On Feb 13, 2003 you wrote "I see a nuclear launch by N
Korea
>>>in
>>>the next week or so."
>>
>> Congrats! You got me! I had forgotten that I'd said "in the next
>> week or so."
>> Many believe that the apostles also indicated that the 2nd Coming
>> would take place within their lifetime.
>>
>
>So now you are comparing yourself to the Apostles?
"Double standard" (Jesus called it "two sets of weights")
>
>> So if you're gonna bust me, you have to bust "the first pope", too!
>>
>> Are you gonna bust the 12?
>>
>> I think you aren't!
>>
>I am not under the same impression that you are John, that is, I don't
>believe the Apostles taught falsely concerning the 2nd coming. I do know
>that you made a prediction based on what you claimed to have seen and it
was
>totally false since it never occurred.
>
>> But since you don't like me (that's fine/ I don't like you), you get
>> on MY back!
>>
>> smirk.
>>
>inappropriate affect
>>
>>>
>>>> And Noah's neighbors teased and taunted him until the rain started.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "That's perfectly fine with me."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am obligated to share my POV. You are not obligated to listen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>You are obligated to share your POV?
>>>>
>>>> Correct.
>>>>
>>>> To whom where you obligated to share
>>>>>such nonsense to?
>>>>
>>>> Such a question doesn't merit answering. (I don't care for your
>>>> tone)
>>>>>
>>>You are nuts.
>>
>> You are, too!
>>
>Yet only a nut thinks so.
>
>> Did you stick out your tongue at your monitor like I'm doing?
>>
>Of course not, I am an adult.
>
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: The Topic is Mr. John Weatherly
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:58:29 -0700
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 14:26:17 -0400, "~²ºº²~ galia ~²ºº³~"
<galia@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 17:44:53 -0400, "~²ºº²~ galia ~²ºº³~"
>> <galia@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
><snipped>
>
>>>I know, truth hurts, so I forgive you for all your ugly remarks...
>>
>> Sincerely?
>> If you sincerely forgive me, then I forgive you as well. And I
>> also repent for the ugly things I've said to and about you.
>>
>> We will call August 1, 2007, the start of a new day, when you stop
>> saying ugly things about my psychiatric diagnosis,
>> and I stop calling you ugly things as well.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> God bless!
>>
>> If you are not sincere, then I'll simply kill file you.
>
>John, I have always been sincere with you, and have never accused you of
>anything out of pure malice. That you are unable to see it as well
deserved
>criticism, is a problem you need to work on. Under no cir***stances,
can
>you expect people to walk on egg shells in your presence, so you don't
have
>to do a damn thing about it. The problem is YOURS, John; nobody is
required
>to accommodate you!
Well, I see that your apology was not sincere. Your crap continues.
>
>If I say, I forgive you, is not a green light for you to continue as
usual,
>but it is meant as a reminder for you, that you are out of line.
It is UTTERLY out of line for you to go on the Internet and PRETEND
to diagnose me. And then to come in here and HARP on it as if you're a
professional psychiatrist-- which you aren't.
When I asked my therapist and my psychiatrist about your comments,
the jist I got was that the less/ the un-educated will go online and
read up and then PRETEND they can diagnose you.
Your words have been very deliberately hurtful. Hurtful in the way
that I TOLD you you were totally out of line (your words were
hurtful), and you didn't apologize or back off.
My problems are not HELPED by your UGLY accusations. Any
PROFESSIONAL knows that a proper diagnosis takes WEEKS of testing and
interviewing, which makes you a sociopath and a pretender.
You are a sociopath because you simply don't CARE how people react to
your low-minded meddling.
>Forgiveness is the most wonderful thing, it sends the darts right back
to
>the original source. If you think for one moment, that God is unable to
>distinguish between malice and constructive criticism, you are in big
>trouble.
Your criticism is not "constructive." It's destructive. You should
leave me to the professionals. You aren't professional, and you
refuse to leave me with those who are.
If you were a responsible, caring, CHRISTIAN adult, you would simply
stop reading my posts.
>
>If you want to make August 1, 2007 the start of a new day, I am willing
to
>work with you, if you are trying to do your part.
No! I shall simply stop reading YOUR Posts.
You have taken ZERO responsibility.
(note, I have not called you one name. I have commented on your
less-than adult, less than responsible, less than Christian behavior.)
Try now, to look inside yourself, rather than trying to fix ME over
the Internet!
killfiled.
Trading insults with you and others is simply a waste of my time and
energy. You are not going to single-handedly change me
And very obviously, YOU have NO intention of changing!
>Deal?
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: The Topic is Mr. John Weatherly
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:58:29 -0700
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 14:26:17 -0400, "~²ºº²~ galia ~²ºº³~"
<galia@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>news:uf43b3tnnho02s7fs6ijkd4dtjnc4b0rv7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Wed, 1 Aug 2007 17:44:53 -0400, "~²ºº²~ galia ~²ºº³~"
>> <galia@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
><snipped>
>
>>>I know, truth hurts, so I forgive you for all your ugly remarks...
>>
>> Sincerely?
>> If you sincerely forgive me, then I forgive you as well. And I
>> also repent for the ugly things I've said to and about you.
>>
>> We will call August 1, 2007, the start of a new day, when you stop
>> saying ugly things about my psychiatric diagnosis,
>> and I stop calling you ugly things as well.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> God bless!
>>
>> If you are not sincere, then I'll simply kill file you.
>
>John, I have always been sincere with you, and have never accused you of
>anything out of pure malice. That you are unable to see it as well
deserved
>criticism, is a problem you need to work on. Under no cir***stances,
can
>you expect people to walk on egg shells in your presence, so you don't
have
>to do a damn thing about it. The problem is YOURS, John; nobody is
required
>to accommodate you!
Well, I see that your apology was not sincere. Your crap continues.
>
>If I say, I forgive you, is not a green light for you to continue as
usual,
>but it is meant as a reminder for you, that you are out of line.
It is UTTERLY out of line for you to go on the Internet and PRETEND
to diagnose me. And then to come in here and HARP on it as if you're a
professional psychiatrist-- which you aren't.
When I asked my therapist and my psychiatrist about your comments,
the jist I got was that the less/ the un-educated will go online and
read up and then PRETEND they can diagnose you.
Your words have been very deliberately hurtful. Hurtful in the way
that I TOLD you you were totally out of line (your words were
hurtful), and you didn't apologize or back off.
My problems are not HELPED by your UGLY accusations. Any
PROFESSIONAL knows that a proper diagnosis takes WEEKS of testing and
interviewing, which makes you a sociopath and a pretender.
You are a sociopath because you simply don't CARE how people react to
your low-minded meddling.
>Forgiveness is the most wonderful thing, it sends the darts right back
to
>the original source. If you think for one moment, that God is unable to
>distinguish between malice and constructive criticism, you are in big
>trouble.
Your criticism is not "constructive." It's destructive. You should
leave me to the professionals. You aren't professional, and you
refuse to leave me with those who are.
If you were a responsible, caring, CHRISTIAN adult, you would simply
stop reading my posts.
>
>If you want to make August 1, 2007 the start of a new day, I am willing
to
>work with you, if you are trying to do your part.
No! I shall simply stop reading YOUR Posts.
You have taken ZERO responsibility.
(note, I have not called you one name. I have commented on your
less-than adult, less than responsible, less than Christian behavior.)
Try now, to look inside yourself, rather than trying to fix ME over
the Internet!
killfiled.
Trading insults with you and others is simply a waste of my time and
energy. You are not going to single-handedly change me
And very obviously, YOU have NO intention of changing!
>Deal?
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Especially for liar-johnnie
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:49:39 -0700
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:02:54 -0400, "Scout Lady" <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>news:7rs1b3dhfviai138kkq8cp1hd38sa4ujve@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:24:59 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>
>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>news:bkbta39jlc9nu286cqpknaql24vqhdjhiu@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:18:42 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Short answer to your question, Cathy (though you don't deserve any
>> answer at all); I do my best!
>
>If you are already doing your best then there isn't any hope for
>improvement.
Amen! Right backacha!
>
>> You must admit (actually, you don't admit ANYTHING), that when I
>> come in here, a dozen people (include yourself) VERY DELIBERATELY say
>> all manner of things merely to PROVOKE me.
>>
>You reap what you sow John.
???? We all do, Cathy! You do, too!
Are you lilly white? No.
Stop di****ng it out if you are unable to take it
>back.
Amen! Right backacha!
Your mental health excuse can only get you so far,
How far do I need to get in here?
You continue to give yourself WAY too much credit for being "a
negative force in my life."
And AGAIN, Cathy, I am diagnosed, and I am in treatment.
You are NEITHER!
if you were a kind
>person then others would find it easier to overlook a few quirks but you
are
>truly a nasty man.
If YOU were a kind person, oh, well, DITTO what you said!
>
>> I wonder how you would react to a non-stop barrage of "you're
>> nothing!" "You're a scuzz ball!" "You're psycho!" "You're a pile of
>> sheep dung!"
>>
>> etc.
>>
>I would simply leave the group.
YOu know where the exit is.
I choose to stay. Whether you like it or you don't, I have that
right, and there is nothing you can do about it, your threats to
"notify the authorities" are bull crap.
And you know that!
You need not concern yourself with why I stay.
You have one of several choices. You can leave, you can stop reading
my posts, or you can stop responding.
It makes NO sense for you to read my posts day after day after day
when you KNOW you're just going to get angry, when your words have N O
effect. (mine don't seem to have an effect on you, either)
>
>You have built a very strong wall and you continue to bang your head
against
>it in hope that it will move.
tsk
Can't put anything past YOU!
The wall isn't going to move thanks to your
>effort but you will feel so much better if you stopped banging your head
and
>simply walked away from the wall without ever looking back.
Or, you could simply stop reading my posts.
john w
at any rate, you've wasted enough of my time for one post.
You perhaps don't mind being talked down to; I do.
If you want to pretend to be some other adult's scolding mommy, find
someone else!
( I mean, SHEESH, Cathy! How many ways can you say the same thing
500 times?)
"John, you're basically a bad person, there is NO good in you, not
one single redeeming quality, and you should go away!"
X 500.
I got it after the first 10 times.
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Especially for liar-johnnie
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:49:39 -0700
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On Thu, 2 Aug 2007 11:02:54 -0400, "Scout Lady" <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>news:7rs1b3dhfviai138kkq8cp1hd38sa4ujve@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 09:24:59 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>
>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>news:bkbta39jlc9nu286cqpknaql24vqhdjhiu@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:18:42 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Short answer to your question, Cathy (though you don't deserve any
>> answer at all); I do my best!
>
>If you are already doing your best then there isn't any hope for
>improvement.
Amen! Right backacha!
>
>> You must admit (actually, you don't admit ANYTHING), that when I
>> come in here, a dozen people (include yourself) VERY DELIBERATELY say
>> all manner of things merely to PROVOKE me.
>>
>You reap what you sow John.
???? We all do, Cathy! You do, too!
Are you lilly white? No.
Stop di****ng it out if you are unable to take it
>back.
Amen! Right backacha!
Your mental health excuse can only get you so far,
How far do I need to get in here?
You continue to give yourself WAY too much credit for being "a
negative force in my life."
And AGAIN, Cathy, I am diagnosed, and I am in treatment.
You are NEITHER!
if you were a kind
>person then others would find it easier to overlook a few quirks but you
are
>truly a nasty man.
If YOU were a kind person, oh, well, DITTO what you said!
>
>> I wonder how you would react to a non-stop barrage of "you're
>> nothing!" "You're a scuzz ball!" "You're psycho!" "You're a pile of
>> sheep dung!"
>>
>> etc.
>>
>I would simply leave the group.
YOu know where the exit is.
I choose to stay. Whether you like it or you don't, I have that
right, and there is nothing you can do about it, your threats to
"notify the authorities" are bull crap.
And you know that!
You need not concern yourself with why I stay.
You have one of several choices. You can leave, you can stop reading
my posts, or you can stop responding.
It makes NO sense for you to read my posts day after day after day
when you KNOW you're just going to get angry, when your words have N O
effect. (mine don't seem to have an effect on you, either)
>
>You have built a very strong wall and you continue to bang your head
against
>it in hope that it will move.
tsk
Can't put anything past YOU!
The wall isn't going to move thanks to your
>effort but you will feel so much better if you stopped banging your head
and
>simply walked away from the wall without ever looking back.
Or, you could simply stop reading my posts.
john w
at any rate, you've wasted enough of my time for one post.
You perhaps don't mind being talked down to; I do.
If you want to pretend to be some other adult's scolding mommy, find
someone else!
( I mean, SHEESH, Cathy! How many ways can you say the same thing
500 times?)
"John, you're basically a bad person, there is NO good in you, not
one single redeeming quality, and you should go away!"
X 500.
I got it after the first 10 times.
snip
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: It is always against the so-called "fundamentalists" - why
this hate? I can tell you - THEY SAY THE TRUTH
Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 15:41:22 -0700
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:04:14 -0400, John Henry <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
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>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 08:43:55 -0400, John Henry <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> ~²ºº²~ galia ~²ºº³~ wrote:
>>>> "john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>> On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:33:16 -0800, Matt...
>>>>> <trdell1234@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> <snipped>
>>>>
>>>>>> Yes I have written of a friend that lives near my property in
Florida
>>>>>> he is both Calvinist and Baptist. He does make it Clear that he
>>>>>> dislikes many Christian denominations and to him they are not true
>>>>>> Christians.
>>>>> We would agree there, though we might not make up precisely the
same
>>>>> lists.
>>>>> Mormons (LDS) call themselves "Christians", but aren't.
>>>>> (LONG list of reasons why not)
>>>>> Jehovah's Witnesses call themselves "Christians", but aren't.
>>>>> (LONG list of reasons here, too)
>>>>> Roman Catholics call themselves "Christians", but aren't.
>>>>> (LONG list here as well)
>>>> ....and then there is jw who calls himself a "Christian", but
>>>> ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, lol
>>>>
>>> Good point, and I can see why you didn't spell that out.
>>> (A very, very, very, V_E_R_Y "LONG list of reasons why not")
>>
>> ALL of which could be said about John H, and about galia, and about
>> Jimmy the Crazy Colonel, and about Elaine the Insane Pain, and about
>> CB ("Crazy Boy"), and about Vern, and the list goes on and on.
>>
>> Why single out John Weatherly?
>>
>> There are so many in here who fall SOOOOOOO short!
>>
>> And Jesus died for / and loves us ALL!
>>
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