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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:42:14 +0200, Werner -the Christian Agnostic-
Kurator <werner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>john w in <cfcnc2po3d95p4bc71iopg9mn664a29bmq@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>on 2006-07-29 announced this statement:
>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:48:39 +0200, Werner -the Christian Agnostic-
>> Kurator <werner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>>john w in <d0skc25n87ioion6vnrhb2p5rt0tee75dl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>on 2006-07-28 announced this statement:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:30:27 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>>> author
>>>>>***ually inappropriate comments duly noted and archived:
>>>>>July 28,2006
>>>>
>>>> delusions of self-im****tance by one Elaine Merle Matthews noted and
>>>> archived.
>>>>
>>>> (like, who gives a ****, Elaine?)
>>>
>>>Still the same Dude......
>>
>> Amazing isn't it, how many of my posts you skipped over ENTIRELY
>> before you found THIS one to comment on!
>
>It just happened that this afternoon I marked the group ACC as read,
>and when I started to read it again some time ago, I found your
>post, no need to search, and so I just read it, which as it
>turned out was a mistake...
Fair enough!
Would it then be acceptable for me to apologize?
I am sincerely sorry if I offended you!
Forgive me!
:-)
God bless!
john w
>
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>> Jesus put it this way:
>>
>> "Seek and you shall find."
>
>Sorry what I'm seeking I haven't found in any of your posts.
>So knowing that not much has changed I'll *ignore* you again.
>If you feel worthwhile you may respond, just know I'll may be
>not reading it...
>
>I'm just wondering if you gave the following advice to another
>single Christian mom?
>
>== quote:
>>>>>>Go warm up your vibrator, darlin',
>>>>>>be sure the batteries are fresh,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>and then have ***ual intercourse with yourself!
>>>>>
>>>>>>(You must have the strongest wrists in Canada. You know! From all
that
>>>>>>vibrator action! )
>
>== end quote
>
>>
>
>
>Werner Kurator
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:38:12 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
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author
>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:07:04 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>wrote:
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>>
>>But you'll still have to deal with "insane Elaine' and "Crazy Colonel
>>Jimmy Agar".
>>
>
>GOSSIP ALERT!! GOSSIP ALERT!!
?????
if you can express YOUR opinion (and you do), why can't anyone else?
tsk tsk!
Elaine Matthewsevenless's control issues re-appear!
;-)
>
>>OTOH, I have complained for 6 YEARS now (the length of my sojourn here
>>thus far) that this place is not fit for Christians. Too many
>>atheists, too many demoniacs, too many psychotics.
>>
>Yes, we all know you're psychotic. a raving lunatic.. when do you ever
>plan on getting treatment?
>
>>But, at least you know who they are!
>
>We sure do - YOU.
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:39:47 +0100, "Jani" <jani@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>
>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:v7cnc25trbai9f5pcqi6namnp4rlub0mou@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:15:45 +0100, "Jani" <jani@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>>
>>>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>news:bi3nc253dh9u55q952mu2h085naif2fqg5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:15:57 +0100, "Jani" <jani@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>>> author
>>>>>Still inappropriate, whoever reposted it.
>>>>
>>>> The nice thing about Usenet; I can post as I please, you can not
read
>>>> my posts.
>>>>
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> And to think, there was a time you were actually a nice person.
>>>>
>>>> oh well!
>>>
>>>I still am. But don't you think it's a bit sad that one of the "banned
>>>items" on my kids' Net access is christian groups?
>>
>> Sad?
>>
>> I think it's sad that you wish to make OTHERs responsible for YOUR
>> choices!
>>
>> If you find my posts (or others) that distasteful, perhaps you'd bring
>> your child(ren) in here and point to some names and say, "Now, don't
>> download those! Download that one!"
>
>Yes, I could do that.
GOOD!
Then we agree!
:-)
Wasn't that easy?
:-)
But what I'm saying, John, is that if Christians
>*themselves* are behaving badly on Usenet,
#1 Why do you call them "Christians"?
How do you know that EVERYONE in here who calls themselves "Christian"
is one? (names that come to mind that are VERY doubtful would include
CB, Elaine, Jim Agar, Scout Lady)
Isn't it up to YOU to weed out the wheat from the chaff?
Also, you perhaps need to take the "ugly behavior " in context. If the
ONLY two stories you EVER read about Jesus were
one about the day He yelled at Simon, "Get behind me, SATAN!" (in our
modern jargon, "Get out of my face, Satan!)
one about Him going into the temple one day, shrieking "This is a
house of prayer! But YOU have turned it into a den of THIEVES!" and
then VIOLENTLY driving them out with brute PHYSICAL force!
if those were the only two stories you ever read, would you STILL have
become a Christian?
I likely would not!
Then there's the forgotten one about, "and when you go into a town and
preach, and they don't listen, and you go house to house, and 100
people slam their doors in your face with greetings like, "_____ _____
_____ ____ _____ ______ you Christian _____ _____ loony _____ _____!
(expletives deleted)
You are to WHAT?
You are to leave that city, kick the dust off your feet. (don't even
look back with regret). The sky's about to fall on them!
isn't it up to the christians to
>present themselves in a manner which is suitable for children?
What makes you believe that this is an environment suitable for
children?
Like I said, with OBVIOUS atheists, agnostics, demoniacs, (and maybe
even Satan himself) in here, how are "true Christians supposed to
act?"
Have you ever actually WATCHED someone cast a demon out of someone?
VERY CHRISTIAN behavior, but NOT suitable for watching by children!
I saw part of an exorcism once, before I -- and 500 others -- were
asked to leave the room (to be certain no non-believers would be
there, and so the demon(s) wouldn't have an available body to escape
into)
Before I left, it got UGLY.
Christian behavior, but not pretty!
How else are
>the children going to gain a positive impression of christianity?
At church. At home.
Try to not "elder the group". I have tried that AND FAILED miserably.
>
>
>>
>> You are MORE than welcome to kill file me!
>>
>> :-)
>
>Naw, I wouldn't do that.
Nor would I killfile you. When I catch you in a good mood, you're very
nice.
And as you may have noticed, when you're nice to me, I'm nice to you.
(one of MY personality flaws/part of my illness is that I find myself
unable to smile when I'm being cursed, accused, or beaten on)
>>
>> But you'll still have to deal with "insane Elaine' and "Crazy Colonel
>> Jimmy Agar".
>
>I don't know Jimmy Agar,
Try to avoid him.
but I've said to Elaine that I don't agree with a
>lot of her posts, and she's not had a problem with that.
"You don't agree with a lot of her posts." ???
She's certifiably insane!
>
>>
>> OTOH, I have complained for 6 YEARS now (the length of my sojourn here
>> thus far) that this place is not fit for Christians. Too many
>> atheists, too many demoniacs, too many psychotics.
>>
>> But, at least you know who they are!
>
>See, I'm not saying that you, or anyone, should censor their own posts
>because of who might be reading; I'm saying that posters *themselves*
should
>consider what kind of impression they're giving.
And I'm saying that I will respond to the negativity at its level.
That's how I'm made. (how God made me, I might point out) I also
believe STRONGLY that Jesus did that, as did Peter, Paul, and a dozen
prophets I can name.
If my responding with a kind word to a kind word, and if my responding
with a kick to the groin for a kick to my groin offends you (I call it
"an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth"), don't read my posts.
those who point out the Golden Rule to me fail to account for the FACT
that I've been weathering the storm in here for 6 YEARS now, trying to
share Christ with a mostly hostile audience.
And they FORGET that Jesus ALSO taught "do not cast your pearls to the
pigs."
If you want to hit me in the head with a brick (metaphorically),
expect me to knock you on your butt.
"That's how it is."
And when I overdo it, I pray for repentance.
>>
>> And, see?
>>
>> We have now had a nice conversation!
>
>Heh. We usually do, don't we? :-)
Frankly, as I have admitted, I have memory issues, and I remember your
NAME VAGUELY.
I seem to recall nice conversations, and one or two accusations. ??
However, "today is a new day", and today, I love you and wish only
God's best for you!
>
>Seriously, I am careful about what my kids access on the Net, purely and
>simply because I think it's down to *parents* to do that, not rely
totally
>on net-nanny programs and the like.
I'm SO glad to hear that!
When my son finally confessed to me (some 6 months ago) that he'd
been looking at some "soft ****" (****d ladies, as young males will
do) "at a friend's house" (an unsupervised friend's house, I presume)
on their computer...
I realized, "I can do only so much, and then I must leave my little
boy in God's hands."
I however, cut him off at the pass. I said, "If you are about to ask
me to show you some hardcore **** on my computer, the answer is "NO!"
He didn't reply for a moment, and then said, "That isn't what I was
going to ask you."
And we moved on.
But I also think it's genuinely sad that
>religious ngs, and especially christian ones, have to be on the list of
>"things you're not allowed". You see my point?
As I said, dear, I have been complaining about that for YEARS. And
MANY have come in here asking if there truly ARE CHRISTIAN chat rooms
anywhere?
I personally am not interested. Nor am I interested in THIS place
particularly. I have reasons to be in here, but it has nothing to do
with "fun". I am here-- to put it tactfully, and not spill my beans--
because God has put me here.
But-- YES-- I FULLY agree, there should be Christian chat rooms.
In that light, I HIGHly recommend that you search for SPECIFICALLY
"Christian Chat" in half-a-dozen engines, including Goggle.
DO be aware, however, that the Internet-- like the world-- is NOT
necessarily friendly towards your idea.
;-)
And-- to put it frankly-- you may have detected by now that I am not a
particularly "social creature". That's the bi-polar disorder. I was
diagnosed YEARS ago as "essentially, John, you are a "natural-born
HERMIT."
I do not LOOK for or ENJOY the company of others!
AGAIN, I am here because I believe God has put me here.
And that is all I can say about that.
I WILL say that the half-d0zen "Christian Chat rooms" I have found
were
1. boring
2. non-starters ("What do you want to talk about?" "I don't know! What
do YOU want to talk about?" "Nothing! I was hoping YOU'd have a
topic!" "A N Y B O D Y have a topic?"
3. too many "hecklers" just like in here.
like you're trying to get into "what do you think Titus 2:3 actually
means? (just for example)
And you get 5
_____ _____ _____ ____ ______ _____, _____ _____
_____ _____ _____ ____ ______ _____, _____ _____ _____ _____ _____
____ ______ _____, _____ _____, _____ _____ _____ ____ ______ _____,
_____ _____ _____ _____ _____ ____ ______ _____, _____ _____!!
(expletives deleted.
And you are left thinking, " I THOUGHT this was a Christian chat
room!"
However, I DO wish you well in your search for "Christian
company/conversation on-line."
God speed!
John w
>
>Jani
>
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author
>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:35:09 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>Now let's see if Elaine apologies to John Weatherly for the false --
>>PARANOID -- DELUSIONAL -- accusation.
>>
>
>Why should I?
Because you falsely accused me of something.
YOU have still not answered my question.
>
>DID YOU TRY TO HAVE UJIE'S ACCOUNT NICKED?????
Jimmy, your lover, just told you what happened!
SHEESH!
You are sooooooooooooooo paranoid! And delusional!
And when did you EVER earn the right to ask me the time of day?
Psycho *****!
>
>Yes or no?
>
>>I'm betting she won't bother.
>>
>>She's not that nice, and she's not Christian, either.
>>
>You're no judge of me, old boy.
Go have ***ual intercourse with yourself!
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>In article <p32nc29l4vafeh2hlvjo67d6a1k97ovg9c@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> you psycho ATTENTION WHORE!
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>> smirk!
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>FEEL THE LOVE!
Well, at least if you have to be retarded, demented, and demon
possessed,
you're original!
;-)
chuckle.
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>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:11:50 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>you psycho ATTENTION WHORE!
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>
>more weatherJERKless insanity showing again, I see...
ME?
It wasn't a post to YOU, Matthewsevenless!
Attention WHORE!
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Subject: Re: Georgie Bush has a new neighbor -- November Is Referendum On
Impeachment
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:31:03 -0700
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:20:21 -0700, Joseph wrote:
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>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:59:04 GMT, Nostra****ingdamus
><nucularbombs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>On 28 Jul 2006 22:03:57 -0700, robbin hood zorrro wrote:
>>
>>> Do a google on "Hitler Prescott Bush CIA assassination JFK MLK"
smirk.
I did. I got 5 hits, all based on ONE post!
cough, choke
chuckle.
this
>>> is no lone bloggers casting mud. What you have here is exposing a
>>> crime family that has been so powerful that only a few have been
>>> unafraid to confront them with the truth. And few suspected how much
>>> destruction they would reap on the U.S. and the world. For some other
>>> useful links google on "Bush Crime Family"
>>>
>>> The Bush Crime Family IS the "Mountain of Corruption" on which all
the
>>> other war-profiteering and government corruption lives... cut off the
>>> head of the s****... after impeachment pursue the Bush Crime Family
>>> until all their hidden money is gone. This may take generations. It
>>> has taken generations for the Bush Crime Family to get here.
>>>
>>> NOVEMBER IS A REFERENDUM ON IMPEACHMENT... do your part to save
>>> mankind.
>>> Make sure YOU KNOW who the local Republicans are!
>>>
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----------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>>From UPI, 7/28/06:
>>> http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=us&q=bush&btnG=Search+News
>>>
>>> Jul 28, 2006
>>>
>>> Peace activist moves to Bush ranch town
>>>
>>> CRAWFORD, TX, United States (UPI) --
>>>
>>> Peace activist Cindy Sheehan, whose son died in the Iraq war,
>>> re****tedly plans to move to Crawford, Texas, the site of U.S.
President
>>> George Bush`s ranch.
>>>
>>> The Waco (Texas) Tribune re****ts Sheehan, who has expressed her
liking
>>> for Crawford in the past, has purchased five acres along State
Highway
>>> 317 in the Central Texas town, several miles west from Bush`s ranch.
>>>
>>> ____________________________________________________
>>>
>>> Ya think Georgie'll be sending out the welcome wagon?
>>>
>>>
>>> Harry
>>> (see all of Harry Hope's excellent posts as they break, put this link
>>> in your browser, use it, this is a search on google groups, on the
>>> author Harry Hope sorted by date... nothing fancy):
>>> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=-
nIhFBQAAACtBOUGAhN9cSve8yYdFJBuOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A&
>>>
>>> With history moving so fast these days you might also want to sort
>>> Harry Hope's posts by "relevance" particulary if the lies and
>>> misdirection that we are all being sujected to by the extensive Bush
>>> Crime Family Propagand machine are confusing you. Using the "sort by
>>> relevance" option has a way of letting you take in the big picture.
>>> http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&enc_author=-
nIhFBQAAACtBOUGAhN9cSve8yYdFJBuOPANdqfI6prRsqjc7uCt1A&
>>
>>November is nothing but a test of the strength of Diebold's hold over
the
>>voting equipment...
>
>
>***Right on target! Americans are in for a big surprise come November.
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>
>Mike Painter wrote:
>> You may also be able to think of some nice way to acknowledge that
this is a
>> copyright violation.
>
>Not to mention a violation of Christian ethics (which he likely had to
>take a course in at Simpson).
Again, if he had permission to copy and modify pages from another
Christian source/ or non-Christian source, it's not illegal.
Some presume SOOOOO much!
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>On Fri, 16 May 2003 02:23:59 -0700, John W <joh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>On Fri, 16 May 2003 07:50:47 +0100, Alan Ferris
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>>>On Fri, 16 May 2003 05:10:36 GMT, Joseph Lovell <subd...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>If you were talking about Beowulf I could agree with you. Chaucer is
a
>>>>toss up as his surviving works are truly Middle English, idioms and
>>>>idiosyncratic spelling enough to drive one to distraction, but with a
>>>>modest amount of effort it becomes understandable, about 2/3 of it is
>>>>understandable without any effort at all. As for the language of the
>>>>KJV, especially the most common version from the late 1700s, being
like
>>>>a foreign language, hogwash, Sir. Almost all the words used in the
KJV,
>>>>even the 1611 version, are in common use today with exactly the same
>>>>meaning. If you can follow the instructions for using a computer or
a
>>>>video game, you should be able to understand the KJV. In fact, it
>>>>should be a bit more understandable as there are only around 5000
words
>>>>used in it (in fact, I believe it may be closer to 4500, been a while
>>>>since I've checked on that bit of trivia), and does not deal with
>>>>technical subjects. I will grant that some of the books of the
prophets
>>>>may be difficult to understand, but then they would be difficult to
>>>>understand no matter which translation one uses.
>>>
>>>Like with any book you read, if you find a word you do not understand,
>>>go look up its meaning. This is as true for reading chaucer, KJV or a
>>>21st century novel.
>>>
>>>I feel that many are becoming lazy and wanting everything given to
>>>them rather than having to work and maybe learn.
>>>
>>>
>>>And to those who do not like the KJV, this is not a dig saying you
>>>must read it, if you are happy with your modern bibles then stick with
>>>them.
>>
>>That is EXACTLY what you did!
>
>Please show where you think I said you must read it.
>
>>many are "becoming lazy" and wanting everything given to
>>>them rather than having to work and maybe learn.
>>
>>What is THAT if not a dig?
>
>Damn right it is a dig. People are wanting to re-write shakespeare
>because they find it hard to read!
>
>>John W
>>
>>>
>>>The problem is those people who reject reading books simply because
>>>they are hard to read, or require learning new words.
>>
>>You continue to prove my point. You just don't get it. The snobbery of
>>the KJV lover.
>
>Strange you think I love the KJV, I suggest you read my sig.
>I simply object to people rejecting reading something because they
>find it hard, or dislike the language used.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh! You argue and you pontificate, and you argue and you
debate and you fume, and then with your summation, you reiterate my
points for me, proving them AGAIN.
John W
>
>>John w
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>"John Weatherly" <john_weatherl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> How many times must you repeat the same anti-scripture post/question.
>> I got it the first time. You are the apostate. Exodus 31:16-17 says
>> Sabbath is for Jews.
>>
>> John Weatherly
>>
>> On Sat, 10 Aug 2002 18:09:30 -1000, Michael Scheifler
>> <mike...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> > An invitation for John Weatherly:
>> >
>> > Isa 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I
>> > will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall
your
>> > seed and your name remain.
>> > Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon
to
>> > another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh
come
>> > to wor****p before me, saith the LORD.
>
>"FROM one Sabbath TILL the next" means continuous wor****p, and is
expressed
>in the religious language of the people for whom the book was written at
the
>time. "ON one Sabbath AND the next" has an entirely different meaning,
and
>is NOT what is being said here.
16 The Israelites are to observe the Sabbath, celebrating it for the
generations to come as a lasting covenant. 17 It will be a sign
between me and the Israelites forever, for in six days the LORD made
the heavens and the earth, and on the seventh day he abstained from
work and rested.' "
It says, "Sabbath is for the Jews." "Sabbath is for the Jews" in two
accompanying verses. Why do you suppose God chose to say this twice?
It means, "HEY! Pay Attention! This is Im****tant" "Today, I mark my
people Israel with the symbol of my Sabbath Day!" This henceforth
means when you see Jews wor****pping on Sabbath, that reminds you that
the Jews are God's."
Any other meaning is ridiculous.
>
>Also, Adventists do not fulfil this text's prophecy if the SDA meaning
is
>the right one - SDAs don't keep new moons.
But you HAVE made a number of man-made laws which are contrary to
scripture, making your cult apostate. You forbid food and beverages
which the Bible doesn't forbid.
John Weatherly>
>God bless,
>Stephen
>
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author
>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:41:39 -0500, CB <country2000@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:26:24 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>>x-no-archive: yes
>>>On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:48:17 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>>><witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>>author
>>>>
>>>>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>snipo
>>>>> I have QUITE LITERALLY sat in a Journalism (advanced English) class
>>>>> during my university days, and the professor gave us a story to
read
>>>>> and "fix." Reading and re-reading the story several times, it
seemed
>>>>> to be saying one thing.
>>>>
>>>>"Belch, fart, brag, brag, brag"
>>>
>>>At least I have stuff to brag ABOUT, Elaine, darlin'!
>>
>>OK.
>>How many women have you had that you didn't have to force (rape)?
>>Since everyting you say is somehow related to ***, I thought I might
give you
>>an op****tunity to brag.
>
>Old boy weatherless has boasted about 'having nearly FIFTY different
>***ual partners'-- how disgusting.
jealousy is such an ugly thing! And from a virgin no less!
tsk tsk.
>
> No wonder the courts saw fit to remove Doug from his 'custody'.
And how your warped, diseased, atrophied brain can connect one to the
other is anyone's guess!
You freak of nature!
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On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:41:39 -0500, CB <country2000@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
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author
>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:26:24 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>x-no-archive: yes
>>On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:48:17 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>><witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>author
>>>
>>>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>snipo
>>>> I have QUITE LITERALLY sat in a Journalism (advanced English) class
>>>> during my university days, and the professor gave us a story to read
>>>> and "fix." Reading and re-reading the story several times, it
seemed
>>>> to be saying one thing.
>>>
>>>"Belch, fart, brag, brag, brag"
>>
>>At least I have stuff to brag ABOUT, Elaine, darlin'!
>
>OK.
>How many women have you had that you didn't have to force (rape)?
>Since everyting you say is somehow related to ***, I thought I might
give you
>an op****tunity to brag.
>OH, lest I forget: How many were not ugly?
Was that intended to be funny, Ohh Spiritual Giant?
chuckle.
( I rate you 1/10th of a half-laugh.
>>
>>;-)
>>
>>All we get from YOU is ***** envy!
>>
>>I mean, you certainly TRY to be a man! You just don't manage it!
>>
>>But you DO carry a razor for castrating!
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>Acts 26:8 "Why is it considered incredible among you
>people if God does raise the dead?
>
>
It continues to be a real laugh fest how you quote scripture while
living like anything BUT a follower of Jesus Christ!
but, you knew that!
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> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
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>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:48:17 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>> <witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>> >
>> >"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> >snipo
>> >> I have QUITE LITERALLY sat in a Journalism (advanced English) class
>> >> during my university days, and the professor gave us a story to
read
>> >> and "fix." Reading and re-reading the story several times, it
seemed
>> >> to be saying one thing.
>> >
>> >"Belch, fart, brag, brag, brag"
>>
>> At least I have stuff to brag ABOUT, Elaine, darlin'!
>
>I think that any survey of Weatherly's writings and the responses to
>them refutes this idea.
lol!!
That was Funny!
(my lie for the day)
>
>> All we get from YOU is ***** envy!
>
>Who's surprised that Weatherly is back to talking about *****es and
>"***** envy?"
>
>> I mean, you certainly TRY to be a man! You just don't manage it!
>
>Even if the above statement was true (and it's probably just Weatherly
>being a misogynist and seeing such an attack as effective), who's
>surprised that Weatherly could not introduce the argument without a
>reference to "***** envy?"
>
>> But you DO carry a razor for castrating!
>
>Feel the love?
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> wrote:
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>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:50:11 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>> >On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 13:38:00 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>I have QUITE LITERALLY sat in a Journalism (advanced English) class
>> >
>> >Anybody can SIT in one, weatherless------- but not everyone LEARNS
>> >anything, which obviously, YOU have not...
>>
>> Funny stuff, Elaine!
>>
>> How you chopped a very interesting story about what I DID learn, just
>> so you could
>>
>> LIE!
>
>Weatherly chops up the words of others quite frequently. It's amusing
>to watch him complain about someone else doing it, but it's fully
>within his character.
>
>And if Elaine lied, I don't see it. Simply relating an observation
>that one has made doesn't qualify. A lie is a deliberate deception.
>The only one engaging in that, pretty much full-time in these groups,
>is Weatherly.
>
>For example, "Journalism," complete with a capital "J," is not
>"advanced English"), and anyone who has taken the sequence of courses
>leading either to an English degree or a journalism degree would know
>the difference. Not having done either of those things (my bachelor's
>degrees are in psychology and biology, respectively, my master's is in
>information systems,
What a total waste of money!
You OBVIOUSLY ( to quote your girlfriend, Elaine) didn't learn a damn
thing!
;-)
Doctoral?
From a mail order catalog I bet!
smirk.
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>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:02:07 -0400, ujb <ujb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>Scout Lady wrote:
>>> <NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>> news:rm5nc2pntjp0lea060qt4pl3q37gs3qlk3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:23:46 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>> MYOFB!
>>>> ^^^More nice, decent CHRISTIAN language, liar-johnnie?
>>>>
>>> "You see nothing if you believe a lying B---- like scout ****!"
>>> ---Merle Elaine Matthews 07/28/2006
>>>
>>> Using ---- doesn't make you any less of a potty mouth Elaine. Why do
you
>>> rebuke John when your language is just as disgusting? Why do you
remain
>>> silent when one of your pals uses the same potty word yet you jump
all over
>>> John for writing it?
>>
>>I really love being back on cable so I can read all the posts! ;)
>>ujb
>Madam **** is merely trying to see if it can get me to reply to it. as
>it can plainly see, I did not use the cuss word, but only a
>reasonable facsimile!!
Oh! In that case, you're a f*in hypocrite! Because I didn't spell out
the word then, or when I typed.
GFY!
Only YOU get to make the rules, right, Elaine?
You psycho, sick f'in control freak!
;-)
but, you already knew that!
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>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:23:46 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
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>>x-no-archive: yes
>>On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:47:36 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>><witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>author
>>>
>>>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>snip
>>>>
>>>> All because you don't know enough to insert one simple COMMA! ( , )
>>>
>>>What are you *****ing about, you ****ing hypocrite? You can't even
>>>comprehend the idea of capitalizing letters.
>>
>>What are YOU *****ing about?
>>
>^^^More nice, decent CHRISTIAN language, liar-johnnie?
>
>> I know enough about grammar to choose when to use and not use it.
>>
>Too bad you didn't know when to stop wasting everyone's time with your
>computer.
>
>>John Wolf has NO clue as to the rules, PERIOD.
>>
>YOU certainly don't either, weatherless- you're just as clueless as
>Wolfie.
Only YOU can hurt me this way, Elaine!
Only you!
snif.
>
>>Nor do YOU!
>>
>>MYOFB!
>
>^^^More nice, decent CHRISTIAN language, liar-johnnie?
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On 29 Jul 2006 08:38:12 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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author
>john w wrote:
>
>[Snip]
>
>> MYOFB!
>
>Feel the love...and note that Weatherly still just doesn't get Usenet.
Actually, you have yet to learn the trick in Usenet in which you don't
bother to read the posts of people you don't agree with.
You'd rather break the law by your non-stop harassment. (which is
illegal, you moron)
;-)
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> wrote:
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>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:47:36 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>> <witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>> >
>> >"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> >snip
>> >>
>> >> All because you don't know enough to insert one simple COMMA! ( ,
)
>> >
>> >What are you *****ing about, you ****ing hypocrite? You can't even
>> >comprehend the idea of capitalizing letters.
>>
>> What are YOU *****ing about?
>>
>> I know enough about grammar to choose when to use and not use it.
>
>Which is among the larger hypocrisies. Weatherly claims that knowing
>the rules means that he can break the rules, pretty much at his whim.
AB SO LUTE LY correct!
It is when one knows the rules that one knows how to break them
CREATIVELY.
You obviously don't know a thing about creativity.
Before you LEARN the rules, you're simply uneducated, ill read, and
sloppy.
Once you learn the rules, you can use and mis-use them creatively.
That is called "art."
dumbass.
>I don't think that anyone is surprised at that kind of attitude. He
>does the same with the rules of Christianity, quite frequently.
There are rules in Christianity that you can break (we all do it), and
there are rules we cannot break.
And as someone who isn't a Christian at all, you don't even know what
I am talking about.
but, you knew that!
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On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 08:44:19 -0400, ujb <ujb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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author
>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 07:06:08 -0400, ujb <ujb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>> john w wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:19:38 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>>> author
>>>>> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:52:43 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>>>>> <witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> <NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:9risc2dim1q1oofvj75igsh2o0lvs3qgok@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:42:51 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>>>>>>> <witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>>>> Now let's see if Elaine apologies to John Weatherly for the
false --
>>>>>>>>> PARANOID -- DELUSIONAL -- accusation.
>>>>>>>> You mean like when you accused me of making prank phone calls to
your
>>>>>>>> house?
>>>> I don't recall putting YOU on that list, sweety! Perhaps you're a
bit
>>>> confused!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or when you accused me of canceling your email accounts?
>>>> I don't recall putting YOU on that list, sweety! Perhaps you're a
bit
>>>> confused!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> You too, Robyn? I'm sorry I didn't include you in the list then
-- I
>>>>>>> knew the old growl accused Jim and myself - I was not aware he
tried
>>>>>>> to blame you as well.
>>>> That was called an educated guess. I still plan on finding out,
>>> Do you want for sweet sweet to tell ya, sweet knows all!?!?
>>
>> Since when did you ever ask anyone's permission to do anything?
>>
>>>> when
>>>> other more urgent issues pass. I will then prosecute whoever did it.
>>>> This insane group (that includes you) has NOTHING to do with my e-
mail
>>>> account.
>>>> And whatever cretin lied and got my accounts cancelled is
>>>> prosecutable.
>>> You know so little daddy!
>>
>> chuckle.
>>
>>>>>>> Welcome to the club!!!!!! ;)
>>>>>> Yes, that was a while back.
>>>> Yes, it certainly was. About a year ago, now.
>>>>
>>>> He's just a LITTLE paranoid.
>>>>
>>>> It's not paranoid, darlin', when you KNOW there are cretins like
Jimmy
>>>> and Robib and Elaine lurking in the shadows.
>>> You're to funny!
>>
>> You used the wrong word, genius.
>>
>> s/b "You're too funny!"
>>
>> You used the preposition (to) as in "to the store".
>>
>> You WANTED the adverb (too) as in, "too funny."
>>
>> dumbass.
>
>Daddy - me; much like you're peer Bible John,
This time (ho hum) you used the wrong form of "your".
"You're" is the contraction of "you" and "are", the apostrophe ( ' )
indicating that a letter ( "a") has been removed in the joining of two
words into one "contraction."
Dumbass.
don't really care witch 2
>I use, or how u feel about it...
>suny
>
>
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Subject: Re: Baptism as requirement for member****p set for church vote
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>On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:05:45 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>x-no-archive: yes
>>On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:19:21 -0500, Mike I
>><hope2basaint@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>author
>>>Since this topic was recently discussed in these NG's. I thought I
>>>would bring this to your attention.
>>>
>>>It appears the discussion of immersion is on going even among Baptist.
>>>Oklahoma's biggest Baptist church in Edmond Oklahoma has raised the
>>>question. For the record they did postpone the vote to give others a
>>>chance to speak.
>>>
>>>Baptism as requirement for member****p set for church vote
>>>Jul 24, 2006
>>>By Staff
>>>Baptist Press
>>>
>>>OKLAHOMA CITY (BP)--In three services over the weekend of July 29-30,
>>>members of Henderson Hills Baptist Church in Edmond, Okla., will vote
>>>on a proposal to eliminate baptism as a requirement for church
>>>member****p. Announcement of the vote has sparked a flurry of debate -–
>>>a discussion reflected on the pages of The Baptist Messenger, news
>>>journal of the Baptist General Convention of Oklahoma.
>>>
>>>In a column published on the news journal’s website,
>>>www.baptistmessenger.com, Henderson Hills pastor Dennis Newkirk
>>>explains that, while the congregation’s elder council believes “the
>>>New Testament commands every believer to be baptized by immersion,
>>>subsequent to salvation,” they are questioning whether baptism should
>>>be required “as an initiatory rite of church member****p.”
>>>
>>>The proposal, Newkirk writes, “is not intended to excuse people from
>>>the sin of refusing baptism. Instead, our concern is for Christians in
>>>two categories, those who physically cannot experience immersion due
>>>to a disability, and for those who are under the mistaken conviction
>>>that sprinkling is baptism.”
>>
>>I certainly sympathize with those who are physically incapable of
>>being immersed. I believe that Christ and the apostles taught the
>>necessity of being OBEDIENT in immersion, believers' baptism. That
>>means one obeys when it is possible to comply.
>
>I see so are the lost if they are not immersed. That is the question
>these group is asking. You or they almost sound like they are
>espousing a doctrine of baptism by desire.
>
I believe that I have stated my POV quite clearly.
>>
>>When one is MISTAKEN (hard of heart perhaps) about the MODE of
>>baptism, it would seem to a RATIONAL person that it would be ADVISABLE
>>to be baptized in the way
>>1. Jesus chose to be baptized
>>2. in the way Jesus chose to baptize the first of His followers.
>>
>>Isn't it sound practice doctrinally, that "when in doubt" play it
>>safe?
>>
>>The person who REFUSES to be immersed as a believer because they "feel
>>that being sprinkled should be sufficient" is not "obeying in all
>>things." They are looking for excuses to NOT comply.
>>
>>That is, "if my eating meat offends you, I should not eat meat in your
>>presence."
>>
>>By the same token, if I believe it is appropriate for you to be
>>immersed as an OUTWARD SYMBOL to the body that you wish to be known as
>>a FOLLOWER, and then you REFUSE such a simple thing... how then do you
>>qualify as a "follower?"
>>
>>You don't. You are saying, "I will follow in THIS matter, but not in
>>this matter. I will do this, but I won't do this."
>>
>>john w
>
>
>But john w, they are Baptist... you sound like some one who is saying
>they are in error because they don't agree with your take on
>Scripture. They and their elders find Scripture to mean something
>other than what you do. You even sound like you are calling the
>"cafeteria Baptist"...
>
>If they believe they are following the guidance of the Holy Spirit and
>have a true understanding of Scripture which, one of you is correct?
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Subject: Re: Baptism as requirement for member****p set for church vote
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> wrote:
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>On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:16:16 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>x-no-archive: yes
>>On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:32:03 -0500, Mike I
>><hope2basaint@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>author
>>>On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:19:21 -0500, Mike I
>>><hope2basaint@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Since this topic was recently discussed in these NG's. I thought I
>>>>would bring this to your attention.
>>>>
>>>>It appears the discussion of immersion is on going even among
Baptist.
>>>>Oklahoma's biggest Baptist church in Edmond Oklahoma has raised the
>>>>question. For the record they did postpone the vote to give others a
>>>>chance to speak.
>>>>
>>>>Baptism as requirement for member****p set for church vote
>>>>Jul 24, 2006
>>>>By Staff
>>>>Baptist Press
>>>>
>>>>OKLAHOMA CITY (BP)--In three services over the weekend of July 29-30,
>>>>members of Henderson Hills Baptist Church in Edmond, Okla., will vote
>>>>on a proposal to eliminate baptism as a requirement for church
>>>>member****p. Announcement of the vote has sparked a flurry of debate -
–
>>>>a discussion reflected on the pages of The Baptist Messenger, news
>>>>journal of the Baptist General Convention of Oklahoma.
>>>>
>>>>In a column published on the news journal’s website,
>>>>www.baptistmessenger.com, Henderson Hills pastor Dennis Newkirk
>>>>explains that, while the congregation’s elder council believes “the
>>>>New Testament commands every believer to be baptized by immersion,
>>>>subsequent to salvation,” they are questioning whether baptism should
>>>>be required “as an initiatory rite of church member****p.”
>>>>
>>>>The proposal, Newkirk writes, “is not intended to excuse people from
>>>>the sin of refusing baptism. Instead, our concern is for Christians
in
>>>>two categories, those who physically cannot experience immersion due
>>>>to a disability, and for those who are under the mistaken conviction
>>>>that sprinkling is baptism.”
>>>>
>>>>Like many Southern Baptist churches, Henderson Hills deals with
people
>>>>who would like to join but are members of churches that sprinkle
>>>>infants, rather than immersing individuals who have consciously
chosen
>>>>to follow Christ. The vast majority of Southern Baptist churches
would
>>>>require such inquirers to offer evidence of salvation and submit to
>>>>baptism by immersion.
>>>>
>>>>Although Newkirk’s column says that “in 31 years of ministry, I have
>>>>never met a believer who adamantly refused baptism,” he argues that
>>>>the requirement of rebaptism is an obstacle to ministering to such
>>>>people.
>>>>
>>>>“We often sacrifice our op****tunity to teach and influence those
>>>>mistaken Christians by rejecting them or we unintentionally promote
an
>>>>unbiblical motive for baptism, making it little more than a rite of
>>>>initiation into church member****p,” Newkirk writes. “Why not allow
>>>>them the blessings, responsibilities and protection of church
>>>>member****p, and then teach, pray, and influence them towards biblical
>>>>baptism?”
>>>>
>>>>The proposal coming before the congregation would strike the phrase,
>>>>“has been scripturally baptized,” from a church bylaw that currently
>>>>reads, in part: “Member****p will be granted to anyone who offers a
>>>>biblical testimony of salvation, has been scripturally baptized and
>>>>agrees to accept the responsibilities of member****p.”
>>>>
>>>>You can read the rest of the story at:
>>>>http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/bpnews.asp?ID=23674
>>>>and
>>>>http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/7/282006h.asp
>>>>http://www.newsok.com/article/2822312
>>>>http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/9581346/detail.html
>>>
>>>
>>>Let me add one more site they have a PDF file online the explains
>>>there concerns.
>>>http://www.hhbc.com/Websites/25/Files/Biblical%20Material%20Sub-Team%
20Re****t.pdf
>>>
>>>I just skimmed the do***ent and found these lines interesting:
>>>
>>>Every instance of baptism in the New Testament does not necessarily
>>>refer to water baptism. Many instances refer to Spiritual baptism or
>>>immersion into something or someone’s authority or leader****p. Some
>>>passages about baptism are particularly difficult to understand...
>>>
>>
>>I disagree. I find only one place where a new believer was not
>>baptized by immersion. That was the thief on the cross. He was not
>>immersion baptized because he didn't have the op****tunity.
>>
>>Every other INSTANCE of baptism indicates immersion, believer's
>>baptism.
>>
>>In the various DISCUSSIONS on baptism, the mode may not always be
>>mentioned; however, that would certainly be a reasonable lapse, since
>>every instance of baptism MENTIONED is one of immersion.
>>
>>I believe the strongest statements we have on immersion of believers
>>in the Bible is the immersion of our Lord Himself. With people
>>practicing various water rituals all over the land, the FACT that
>>Jesus SOUGHT John out BECAUSE John was immersing people in water deep
>>enough to submerge them
>>
>>speaks volumes.
>>
>>Jesus was so committed to immersion baptism that John 3 says upon
>>being baptized by John, Jesus then took His followers to another part
>>of the river, and Jesus baptized them as He had been baptized (thereby
>>establi****ng a chain of authority). Jesus was baptized (and some form
>>of mystical power was transferred or bestowed upon Him -- in this
>>simple act of obedience) Jesus then TRANSFERS or BESTOWS that same
>>mystical power on His disciples by baptizing the first of them.
>>Thereby, the Christ was baptized, then baptized, then those whom He
>>baptized baptized others, and the "mystical power" was transferred
>>from Christ-- through the apostles-- to His followers.
>>
>>Those who refuse immersion end up being sprinkled by others who
>>refused, and that line of mystical power is LOST.
>>
>>
>>If there is POWER in Christianity (in following in His footsteps at
>>EVERY POSSIBLE op****tunity) then I want to avail myself of every bit
>>of the power that is available.
>>
>>And being immersed by one who has been immersed is such a SIMPLE thing
>>to do.
>>
>>
>>
>>>and
>>>Common Water Baptism Fallacies
>>>Although many verses mention water baptism, none explicitly address
>>>its meaning.
>>
>>Sure they do. "in baptism", Paul relates, "we are BURIED with Christ."
>>
>>Baptism then is intended to be a visual symbol of following Him to
>>death, into the grave, and out again.
>>
>>
>>
>> If the traditional view of Paul’s use in Romans 6:4 and
>>>Colossians 2:12 are argued as the meaning of water baptism, then they
>>>are to be taken literally.7 This would join water baptism with
>>>salvation and upset sola gratia and sola fide so accurately explained
>>>and defended elsewhere in Scripture.
>>
>>Not at all. A vital proof text that immersion believers' baptism--
>>while a VITAL act of OBEDIENCE-- is not ESSENTIAL-- would be the thief
>>on the cross.
>>
>>Never immersed, he received the only "baptism" that is REQUIRED. He
>>was baptized in the Holy Spirit the INSTANT he believed.
>>
>>You are babbling Roman Catholic NONSENSE that is utterly NOT
>>scriptural.
>
>John W this has nothing to do with the Catholic Church..
If your post is intended strictly for Roman Catholics (sure, it is),
then why is it posted to the baptist group?
Put your hate
>of all things Catholic aside.
I don't hate the Roman Catholic person; I hate the utter perversion of
pure 1st Century New Testament Christianity (what the Christ and the
12 left us) that the RCC represents.
It's as if God and Jesus made SO MANY MISTAKES that it's taken the RCC
2,000 years to correct all God's errors!
>
>The "nonsense" is coming from this Baptist Church in Edmond Oklahoma.
??
I'd find far less "nonsense" in a Baptist church that at least
ATTEMPTS to follow God's rule, than in an RCC "church" in which man's
rule is the order of the day, and when one mention's all God's laws
that are so DELIBERATELY VIOLATED and IGNORED, one gets a LONG list of
excuses.
>In fact if you click on the links and read; you would have found that
>they saying "water" Baptism isn't required to be a member of "the
>Church"
It isn't.
SOME churches require immersion baptism, others do not. I have joined
numerous churches, Baptist and a couple that were not Baptist, that
accepted me as a full member on what is called one's "statement of
faith," and assurance that one "has been immersion baptized as a
believer" in one's past.
There is no scriptural justification for requiring one to be
"re-baptized" if one was immersed as a believer in one's past.
There is also--in many Baptist churches-- no REQUIREMENT that one who
was SPRINKLED as a believer (as Lutherans do it, and Methodists) must
be IMMERSED to join.
Those churches ENCOURAGE immersion baptism, but wisely, leave it to
the conscience of the believer.
In my own home church, the one I was born into-- Metropolitan Baptist
(Southern) in Wa****ngton, D.C., we had a woman come forward when I was
a teenager, who had been a member (and deaconess, if I recall) in good
standing for some 30 years (?), who finally confessed that she had
never been "immersion baptized", and "it was time."
>
>Your argument is with the Baptist in Edmond not me or the Catholic
>Church.
I'll pick my arguments, thanks!
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> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:19:38 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:52:43 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>>> <witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> <NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>> news:9risc2dim1q1oofvj75igsh2o0lvs3qgok@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:42:51 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>>>>> <witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>> snip
>>>>>>> Now let's see if Elaine apologies to John Weatherly for the false
--
>>>>>>> PARANOID -- DELUSIONAL -- accusation.
>>>>>> You mean like when you accused me of making prank phone calls to
your
>>>>>> house?
>>
>> I don't recall putting YOU on that list, sweety! Perhaps you're a bit
>> confused!
>>
>>
>>>>>> Or when you accused me of canceling your email accounts?
>>
>> I don't recall putting YOU on that list, sweety! Perhaps you're a bit
>> confused!
>>
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You too, Robyn? I'm sorry I didn't include you in the list then --
I
>>>>> knew the old growl accused Jim and myself - I was not aware he
tried
>>>>> to blame you as well.
>>
>> That was called an educated guess. I still plan on finding out,
>
>Do you want for sweet sweet to tell ya, sweet knows all!?!?
Since when did you ever ask anyone's permission to do anything?
>
>> when
>> other more urgent issues pass. I will then prosecute whoever did it.
>> This insane group (that includes you) has NOTHING to do with my e-mail
>> account.
>> And whatever cretin lied and got my accounts cancelled is
>> prosecutable.
>
>You know so little daddy!
chuckle.
>
>>>>> Welcome to the club!!!!!! ;)
>>>> Yes, that was a while back.
>>
>> Yes, it certainly was. About a year ago, now.
>>
>> He's just a LITTLE paranoid.
>>
>> It's not paranoid, darlin', when you KNOW there are cretins like Jimmy
>> and Robib and Elaine lurking in the shadows.
>
>You're to funny!
You used the wrong word, genius.
s/b "You're too funny!"
You used the preposition (to) as in "to the store".
You WANTED the adverb (too) as in, "too funny."
dumbass.
>
>>> Yupper-- a little paranoid,
>>
>>
>> smirk.
>>
>> Elaine looking in her mirror again!
>>
>>
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> wrote:
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>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 10:26:42 -0400, ujb <ujb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>> Dave wrote:
>>>> john w wrote:
>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:49:08 GMT, "Mike Painter"
>>>>> <mddotpainter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the
>>>>> author
>>>>>> john w wrote:
>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 17:20:49 -0700, "Bible John"
>>>>>>> <john.doggett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the
>>>>>>> author
>>>>>>>> Horn do you ever have anything nice to say? If not then why are
you
>>>>>>>> here? Jason got tired of you and so am I.
>>>>>>> John, why on EARTH do you waste your time and energy on such?
>>>>>>> Have you not YET figured out that Dave Horn is an ATTENTION WHORE
like
>>>>>>> Phar Lap and others?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He is here for ONE purpose: To waste your time, your energy, and
to
>>>>>>> antagonize you!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And--no-- he NEVER has anything good to say!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (he's likely a demoniac, whereas YOU are simply psychotic)
>>>>>> I'm tempted to ask which John is being addressed here.
>>>>>>
>>>>> I -- John Weatherly -- just said that John Wolf is psychotic.
>>>> Forgetting for the the moment that this is a bit of a PKB statement
>>>> *and* that Weatherly isn't qualified to make such a judgment...
>>> If 'poor stupid' could make *ANY* judgments he wouldn't be living in
a
>>> home for the crippled.
>>
>> All this time, Jimmy, I've been wondering, and so I thought I'd just
>> ask. What do you want to be if you grow up?
>
>Funny you should ask, I want to be just like you daddy.
It was a rhetorical question, dumbass.
(that means, you were not supposed to answer. A rhetorical question
is one whose answer is suggested in the question.)
The point was, you will never grow up.
tsk tsk
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> wrote:
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>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On 30 Jul 2006 07:28:06 -0700, horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>> ujb wrote:
>>>> Dave wrote:
>>>>> john w wrote:
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:49:08 GMT, "Mike Painter"
>>>>>> <mddotpainter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the
>>>>>> author
>>>>>>> john w wrote:
>>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 17:20:49 -0700, "Bible John"
>>>>>>>> <john.doggett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>>>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the
>>>>>>>> author
>>>>>>>>> Horn do you ever have anything nice to say? If not then why
are you
>>>>>>>>> here? Jason got tired of you and so am I.
>>>>>>>> John, why on EARTH do you waste your time and energy on such?
>>>>>>>> Have you not YET figured out that Dave Horn is an ATTENTION
WHORE like
>>>>>>>> Phar Lap and others?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He is here for ONE purpose: To waste your time, your energy,
and to
>>>>>>>> antagonize you!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And--no-- he NEVER has anything good to say!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (he's likely a demoniac, whereas YOU are simply psychotic)
>>>>>>> I'm tempted to ask which John is being addressed here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I -- John Weatherly -- just said that John Wolf is psychotic.
>>>>> Forgetting for the the moment that this is a bit of a PKB statement
>>>>> *and* that Weatherly isn't qualified to make such a judgment...
>>>> If 'poor stupid' could make *ANY* judgments he wouldn't be living in
a
>>>> home for the crippled.
>>> Indeed? What's *that* about?
>>
>> It's about Jimmy being a liar, and thinking he's funny, when he makes
>> fun of ( ridicules) those he sees as "inferior". Since I have
>> admitted being mentally ill, Jimmy is enough of an ignorant bigot that
>> he takes great joy in imagining he is "making my life miserable."
>>
>> chuckle
>>
>> He thinks that saying I live in a "home for the crippled" is just
>> another funny slice at me with his straight razor.
>>
>> I remind all SANE folk that being mentally ill (bi-polar) is not
>> FUNNY, and he SHOULD be thinking, "There, but for the grace of God, go
>> I!"
>>
>> As bi-polar is a GENETIC disorder that I got from my mom, it's not
>> exactly something I did to myself.
>>
>> Nor am I (nor are many) all that convinced that Jimmy is all that
>> mentally sound.
>>
>> ;-)
>
>But daddy, your little sweet sweet
snip
I wasn't talking TO you, moron!
I was talking about you!
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On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 18:48:09 +1200, colp <colp@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>Peace Crusader wrote:
>> Dear John and my Fellowmen,
>>
>> john w wrote:
>>
>>>I have not one single quibble with this post.
>>>
>>>Pax!
>>
>>
>> My reply:
>> Thank you, John. I hope our fellowmen will accept that the spirit in
>> us is neither male nor female. This spirit is the breath of life that
>> God breathed into us to make our inanimate physical body (which came
>> from the soil, hence should go back to the soil) move. It is the
>> physical body that is either male or female.
>>
>> Since the spirit came from God, we are like God. That is our likeness
>> of God -- as spirit.
>
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