>>
>> YOU have still not answered my question.
>>>
>>>DID YOU TRY TO HAVE UJIE'S ACCOUNT NICKED?????
>>
>>Jimmy, your lover, just told you what happened!
>>
>>SHEESH!
>>
>>You are sooooooooooooooo paranoid! And delusional!
>>
>>And when did you EVER earn the right to ask me the time of day?
>>
>>Psycho *****!
>>
>TRANSLATION:
> Yes, I DID try to have Ujie's account ruined, but he was too clever
>for me, poor stupid liar-Johnnie-DD-weatherless!!
You are just SOoooo good at speaking for everyone BUT yourself!
>>
>>Go have ***ual intercourse with yourself!
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Usual insanity and ***ual obsessions again duly
>noted..... and archived.
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:58:55 +0200, Werner -the Christian Agnostic-
Kurator <werner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>john w in <7i8oc29ei4qmcdiqt72mb969v7a7dg49o1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>on 2006-07-30 announced this statement:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:42:14 +0200, Werner -the Christian Agnostic-
>> Kurator <werner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>>john w in <cfcnc2po3d95p4bc71iopg9mn664a29bmq@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>on 2006-07-29 announced this statement:
>>>
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:48:39 +0200, Werner -the Christian Agnostic-
>>>> Kurator <werner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>>> author
>>>>>john w in <d0skc25n87ioion6vnrhb2p5rt0tee75dl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>on 2006-07-28 announced this statement:
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:30:27 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the
>>>>>> author
>>>>>>>***ually inappropriate comments duly noted and archived:
>>>>>>>July 28,2006
>>>>>>
>>>>>> delusions of self-im****tance by one Elaine Merle Matthews noted
and
>>>>>> archived.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (like, who gives a ****, Elaine?)
>>>>>
>>>>>Still the same Dude......
>>>>
>>>> Amazing isn't it, how many of my posts you skipped over ENTIRELY
>>>> before you found THIS one to comment on!
>>>
>>>It just happened that this afternoon I marked the group ACC as read,
>>>and when I started to read it again some time ago, I found your
>>>post, no need to search, and so I just read it, which as it
>>>turned out was a mistake...
>>
>> Fair enough!
>>
>> Would it then be acceptable for me to apologize?
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sincerely sorry if I offended you!
>
>You should apologize to the person *you* really offended, namely
>the woman "Elaine".
The woman "Elaine' gets offended every time I scratch my backside.
[ I apologize Elaine! I just scratched my butt again!]
>
>You see John, I didn't really believe that you were a
>*****-author* as some-one accused you of.
There are a variety of perspectives on that issue. As I have said,
there is "****' in the Bible, if you read Hebrew.
And the "romance novels" that have flooded a certain segment of the
market are "mass market" "feminine POV ****."
Now having read the
>*advise* you gave to her, I think you are guilty as charged...
"Guilty?" hardly.
But you are certainly entitled to be a narrow-minded bigot!
>
>EOD for me on this point.
>
>>
>>
>> Forgive me!
>>
>>:-)
>>
>> God bless!
>>
>> john w
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jesus put it this way:
>>>>
>>>> "Seek and you shall find."
>>>
>>>Sorry what I'm seeking I haven't found in any of your posts.
>>>So knowing that not much has changed I'll *ignore* you again.
>>>If you feel worthwhile you may respond, just know I'll may be
>>>not reading it...
>>>
>>>I'm just wondering if you gave the following advice to another
>>>single Christian mom?
>>>
>>>== quote:
>>>>>>>>Go warm up your vibrator, darlin',
>>>>>>>>be sure the batteries are fresh,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and then have ***ual intercourse with yourself!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(You must have the strongest wrists in Canada. You know! From all
that
>>>>>>>>vibrator action! )
>>>
>>>== end quote
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Werner Kurator
>>
>
>
>Werner Kurator
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:34:37 +0100, "Jani" <jani@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>
>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:4s6oc253tm5iv9eam36sue3902eboul4jc@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:39:47 +0100, "Jani" <jani@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
><some snips cos it was getting unwieldy>
>
>[]
>
>> But what I'm saying, John, is that if Christians
>>>*themselves* are behaving badly on Usenet,
>>
>> #1 Why do you call them "Christians"?
>> How do you know that EVERYONE in here who calls themselves "Christian"
>> is one? (names that come to mind that are VERY doubtful would include
>> CB, Elaine, Jim Agar, Scout Lady)
>
>That's true, I don't - but on the whole, people who don't consider
>themselves christians say so. I don't make any bones about being
agnostic,
>for instance. I do think it's possible for someone to be a christian and
>behave badly; that just makes them a christian who's currently behaving
>badly, it doesn't mean they're not a christian.
>
Now, to answer some of these points.
I didn't realize/remember you're an agnostic.
Let me say this about that. I find that agnosticism is far more
intellectually honest than atheism, which I consider
morally/spiritually dishonest.
The atheist can't prove "there is NO God!" And he can't even do***ent
"there's not even any EVIDENCE that there's a God."
And all the "arguments" and "reasons" they produce that "prove there's
no proof" are circular. All I've seen anyway.
They all seem to boil down to this: There's no God. So there can't be
any evidence that there's a God! So even if you are absolutely
CERTAIN that there's a God, since we already ESTABLISHED that there
ISN"T one, you must be MISTAKEN about your belief that there's
1. a God (there isn't)
2. there's evidence (there can't be "evidence" since "everyone knows
there's no God)
Circular.
(example)
Since we all know there aren't any garguts, you can't produce any
evidence that there are actually garguts, because we all know there
are no garguts.
Problem:
I have a gargut here in my hand! Look!
Answer:
You cannot POSSIBLY have a gargut in your hand, because there are no
garguts. So, NO! I will NOT look at your gargut, because there simply
aren't any.
( refusing to look at your gargut)
(an example)
The agnostic (as I understand agnosticism) simply states, honestly, "I
don't know if there is a God or not. But I am open to any proof you
might have."
THAT is honesty!
I might add that down through the years, I've had friends of both
brands!
>>
>> Isn't it up to YOU to weed out the wheat from the chaff?
>>
>> Also, you perhaps need to take the "ugly behavior " in context. If the
>> ONLY two stories you EVER read about Jesus were
>>
>> one about the day He yelled at Simon, "Get behind me, SATAN!" (in our
>> modern jargon, "Get out of my face, Satan!)
>>
>> one about Him going into the temple one day, shrieking "This is a
>> house of prayer! But YOU have turned it into a den of THIEVES!" and
>> then VIOLENTLY driving them out with brute PHYSICAL force!
>>
>> if those were the only two stories you ever read, would you STILL have
>> become a Christian?
>>
>> I likely would not!
>
>Well, I'm not christian anyway,
( I forgot. I told you, memory is an issue)
but I'd certainly agree that there's more to
>the christian scriptures than one or two stories.
There you go! I get angry and pop off at someone. One of MY
weaknesses ("frailties") is my "foul mouth", and I will cuss someone
out if they push the wrong button (which my detractors and would/be
tormenters now DELIGHT in doing) like they're playing with a trained
monkey.
Supposedly, my use of "the King's English" "proves" that I am not a
Christian. In spite of the fact that my view of Christianity is that
there's quite a bit of cursing in the Bible, if you know where to
look!
>
>[]
>
>> isn't it up to the christians to
>>>present themselves in a manner which is suitable for children?
>>
>> What makes you believe that this is an environment suitable for
>> children?
>
>On the whole, I don't believe that Usenet *is* suitable for young
children.
There you go! "By Jove, I think she's got it!"
;-)
>However, some groups *could* be, if the participants chose to make them
so.
Ah, how quick we are to moderate others!
(good luck with that) or, to quote one of my all time favorite
films, "In the Heat of the Night", good luck with that, "ya heah?"
>
>>
>> Like I said, with OBVIOUS atheists, agnostics, demoniacs, (and maybe
>> even Satan himself) in here, how are "true Christians supposed to
>> act?"
>
>I've had christians treat me (an agnostic) with politeness and courtesy,
Which I hope I'm doing. As long as you treat me nicely (and allow
some roughness around the edges/ I do not claim to be good with
people), I will treat you nicely. And if you are 85% nice, I can make
allowances for the occasional rip.
>whilst remaining firm in their own beliefs. You've done it yourself,
>although you might not remember.
I dearly hope so. I've been trained by some of the best!
;-)
>
>>
>> Have you ever actually WATCHED someone cast a demon out of someone?
>>
>> VERY CHRISTIAN behavior, but NOT suitable for watching by children!
>>
>> I saw part of an exorcism once, before I -- and 500 others -- were
>> asked to leave the room (to be certain no non-believers would be
>> there, and so the demon(s) wouldn't have an available body to escape
>> into)
>>
>> Before I left, it got UGLY.
>>
>> Christian behavior, but not pretty!
>
>Exorcism is very uncommon here in Britain. It seems to be mainly
confined to
>a few small, non-mainstream African christian churches.
Ah! Britain! My homeland! I lived there during VietNam! I was at
Alconbury, and then I was at Lakenheath.
If you are anywhere close to Alconbury, there's actually a 6th C AD
church at the main gate (a 5 minute walk from the gate). The
cornerstone actually says "525 AD". I found out later that the
inscription is "wrong." Seems "the Roman Catholic church didn't
invent the AD numbering system until 25 years later!"
Now they have to explain that church! (they explain it by pretending
it's not there)
;-)
Regarding exorcisms in GB, most "churches" over there likely are so
liberal they don't believe in demons, so they wouldn't practice
exorcisms.
If you are looking for a good church, at Alconbury (when I was there),
there was a LARGE Southern Baptist church some 3 miles from the base
(down the same road the OLD church is on, on the OTHER side of the
road from the old church.) The old church is on the RIGHT side of the
road, and looks like an old house, except for the steeple on top.
The BIG newer church is down the road on the LEFT. It's where the
Brits mix it with the base's Christians.
If you're close, you could check it out. They're real Christians
there.
Otherwise, look for a Southern Baptist church near you. They're a wee
bit extreme, but the teaching is solid.
(anti-alcohol, anti-dancing, conservative dress)
>
>
>> How else are
>>>the children going to gain a positive impression of christianity?
>>
>> At church. At home.
>
>What of children who are not christian themselves?
You can SEND your children to a good Christian church, or TAKE them,
if there's one close to you. (it may be a BIT of a drive. But AGAIN,
look for a Southern Baptist church. They were colonizing the island
when I was there. )
See, I don't think that
>kids should be left to form negative opinions of other cultural /
religious
>/ethnic groups, when it's evident (to me, at least) that all such groups
>will include good individuals and bad ones.
Well said.
I wouldn't want my kids to base
>their opinion of the whole of Islam on the small sector of Muslims who
are
>terrorists, for instance.
Exactly.
In fact, just yesterday (Friday, actually), there was a shooting in
Seattle. A Palestinian Muslim from the Tri-Cities (hundreds of miles
away) drove all the way to Seattle, bought two pistols on the way,
broke into a Jewish charity, screamed "I hate Jews!" and shot 6 of
them, one fatally.
The local Arabs and Palestinians said, "We divorce this guy! We want
NO part of this violence! There's enough of the violence already!"
He's in jail now. Got an unusually high bail. $5 MILLION.
He's being charged with murder, attempted murder, and a hate crime.
(hate crimes are SERIOUS business in the US) Plus he grabbed a 13-year
old little girl who he held at gunpoint to force his way into a secure
building. (she had access)
So now he gets kidnapping.
>
>>
>> Try to not "elder the group". I have tried that AND FAILED miserably.
>
>Oh, believe me, I'm not. People can and should post as they wish. I'm
just
>commenting on the impression given by some of the posts, that's all.
( I said that before remembering you're agnostic)
>
>
>>>> You are MORE than welcome to kill file me!
>>>>
>>>> :-)
>>>
>>>Naw, I wouldn't do that.
>>
>> Nor would I killfile you. When I catch you in a good mood, you're very
>> nice.
>>
>> And as you may have noticed, when you're nice to me, I'm nice to you.
>> (one of MY personality flaws/part of my illness is that I find myself
>> unable to smile when I'm being cursed, accused, or beaten on)
>
>Yes, I shouldn't have been snippy with you. I do know that you don't
respond
>well to that, and I should have remembered. My bad.
Well, I hope I responded nicely. I sensed SOME hostility, but you
were pretty nice, so I let it slide and tried to make a joke of it.
( I considered it a gentle slap, rather than a punch that knocks teeth
loose)
:-)
>
>[]
>
>> but I've said to Elaine that I don't agree with a
>>>lot of her posts, and she's not had a problem with that.
>>
>> "You don't agree with a lot of her posts." ???
>>
>> She's certifiably insane!
>
>She's always been reasonable and polite with me; I appreciate that your
>experience is different.
Well, understand that mass murderers are typically "friendly, nice,
family folk who get along WONDERFULLY with their neighbors."
Elaine and I got along fine until she couldn't tolerate my differences
of opinion on a dozen issues.
One of her favorite words is "fool!" which she's called me a hundred
times, (and she's called others)
in spite of Jesus saying,
22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be
subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, `Raca, '
is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, `You fool!' will
be in danger of the fire of hell.
I and a dozen others have pointed out that her use of the word "fool"
invites hellfire.
She excuses herself by saying "Jesus meant you can't call Christians
that, and you're not a Christian!"
She is willing to take that chance to have her own way.
I call her "insane" because if you understand, sane people have a
sense of self-preservation. They're cautious in many cases "just in
case". " I won't step out of this blind alley, JUST in case there's
a car coming."
Elaine has NO sense of self-preservation, NO sense of caution. She's
the bull in the china shop.
She also throws around a LONG list of RULES for BEHAVIOR that apply to
EVERYONE but herself.
Jesus said, "before you criticize, look in the mirror." Elaine
absolutely refuses to self-examine.
And she gets along with many people FINE.
She simply despises ME, so I get all her daily venom.
That's fine! At least she isn't pouring it all over someone she could
potentially hurt!
;-)
( I can take it)
>
>[]
>
>
>>>> And, see?
>>>>
>>>> We have now had a nice conversation!
>>>
>>>Heh. We usually do, don't we? :-)
>>
>> Frankly, as I have admitted, I have memory issues, and I remember your
>> NAME VAGUELY.
>>
>> I seem to recall nice conversations, and one or two accusations. ??
>
>No, we parted on good terms last time.
I meant that I VAGUELY recall some harsh words EARLY in our dialogues.
Perhaps not.
And I don't want to go BACK, I want to go FORWARD!
>
>>
>> However, "today is a new day", and today, I love you and wish only
>> God's best for you!
>
>Thank you.
Yer wel***!
;-)
>
>
>>>Seriously, I am careful about what my kids access on the Net, purely
and
>>>simply because I think it's down to *parents* to do that, not rely
totally
>>>on net-nanny programs and the like.
>>
>> I'm SO glad to hear that!
>>
>> When my son finally confessed to me (some 6 months ago) that he'd
>> been looking at some "soft ****" (****d ladies, as young males will
>> do) "at a friend's house" (an unsupervised friend's house, I presume)
>> on their computer...
>>
>> I realized, "I can do only so much, and then I must leave my little
>> boy in God's hands."
>>
>> I however, cut him off at the pass. I said, "If you are about to ask
>> me to show you some hardcore **** on my computer, the answer is "NO!"
>>
>> He didn't reply for a moment, and then said, "That isn't what I was
>> going to ask you."
>>
>> And we moved on.
>
>Heh. Sensible. How old is your son?
Unfortunately, since I have so many enemies in here, I can't get into
much detail about that. One such BITTER enemy is in fact ALREADY
interrupting this conversation.
He's a teen. If he'd been a pre-teen, I'd have called the police on
his friend, and on his mother.
I assume he's a teenager?
Yes.
If the worst
>thing he's up to is looking at a few nekkid ladies, he's obviously not a
bad
>lad ...
Yes, of course, there are those "Christians" in here who would CLAIM
that they've never looked at nekkid ladies in magazines.
"right"
liars all!
I can remember going to my pastor when I was in my 30s. I was single,
and I confessed, Dr _____, I am having a problem! I find I can't
resist buying a Penthouse every month. I just can't get past this
BURNING need to look at ****d women!"
My pastor chuckled. "John, you scared me for a minute! I thought you
were going to tell me you were looking at pictures of ****d men! I'd
have a problem with THAT! Go enjoy your Penthouse! That urge is
God-given, m' boy!"
Now THERE was an understanding, kind-hearted pastor.
And when I DID ask my son if he'd seen any "hard ****", he said, "not
interested."
I wasn't offering, but I liked his answer. So we're good.
>
>>
>>
>> But I also think it's genuinely sad that
>>>religious ngs, and especially christian ones, have to be on the list
of
>>>"things you're not allowed". You see my point?
>>
>> As I said, dear, I have been complaining about that for YEARS. And
>> MANY have come in here asking if there truly ARE CHRISTIAN chat rooms
>> anywhere?
>>
>> I personally am not interested. Nor am I interested in THIS place
>> particularly. I have reasons to be in here, but it has nothing to do
>> with "fun". I am here-- to put it tactfully, and not spill my beans--
>> because God has put me here.
>
>Fair enough.
post your e-mail, and we'll talk about it.
>
>> But-- YES-- I FULLY agree, there should be Christian chat rooms.
>>
>> In that light, I HIGHly recommend that you search for SPECIFICALLY
>> "Christian Chat" in half-a-dozen engines, including Goggle.
>>
>> DO be aware, however, that the Internet-- like the world-- is NOT
>> necessarily friendly towards your idea.
>>
>> ;-)
>
>As it happens, we have family friends who are christian, and are very
>knowledgeable about the faith.
If you hadn't picked up on it, I am an elder, and I've had both
seminary and LOTS of training "at the knee" of some 2 dozen scholars.
You and I might have some VERY interesting chats, and I could likely
answer some questions for your kids as well.
I might brag a little on me.
I have several Muslim friends in my building. So far, 2 of them have
told me that they find me VERY knowledgeable, and that I am the first
Christian they've talked to who was able to answer all their
questions, and "make it all make sense.'
They had gotten too many "I don't know's" until I came along.
In the right light, Christianity actually makes a LOT of sense.
One who convince ME of MANY things is one of your countrymen, Dr Clive
S Lewis, "Mere Christianity."
That book is a CLASSIC.
So my own kids aren't "deprived" of
>discussions about christianity (or about other faiths, if it comes to
that).
Very good. I studied comparative religion in church for many years
(with scholar pastors), and then took it in seminary
>Not everyone is so lucky, though.
Very true. Many don't have pastors who are scholars. I have not had a
pastor yet who didn't have half-a-dozen Ph Ds after his name and a Dr
in front.
>
>
>> And-- to put it frankly-- you may have detected by now that I am not a
>> particularly "social creature". That's the bi-polar disorder. I was
>> diagnosed YEARS ago as "essentially, John, you are a "natural-born
>> HERMIT."
>
>Nothing wrong with being a hermit. Constant socialising has its
limitations
>;)
lol !!
Actually, I miss human company/companion****p. But I have not been
blessed in that regard. So I have learned to be "best friends with me"
>
>>
>> I do not LOOK for or ENJOY the company of others!
>>
>> AGAIN, I am here because I believe God has put me here.
>>
>> And that is all I can say about that.
>>
>> I WILL say that the half-d0zen "Christian Chat rooms" I have found
>> were
>> 1. boring
>> 2. non-starters ("What do you want to talk about?" "I don't know! What
>> do YOU want to talk about?" "Nothing! I was hoping YOU'd have a
>> topic!" "A N Y B O D Y have a topic?"
>>
>> 3. too many "hecklers" just like in here.
>>
>> like you're trying to get into "what do you think Titus 2:3 actually
>> means? (just for example)
>>
>> And you get 5
>>
>> _____ _____ _____ ____ ______ _____, _____ _____
>> _____ _____ _____ ____ ______ _____, _____ _____ _____ _____ _____
>> ____ ______ _____, _____ _____, _____ _____ _____ ____ ______ _____,
>> _____ _____ _____ _____ _____ ____ ______ _____, _____ _____!!
>>
>> (expletives deleted.
>>
>> And you are left thinking, " I THOUGHT this was a Christian chat
>> room!"
>
>Well, talking about separating wheat from chaff, I must admit there are
some
>posters that I always look for, because they offer thoughtful, reasoned
>perspectives rather than mud-slinging.
Agreed. I look for Larry's posts, because he typically has some REAL
gems.
People who can disagree without
>beating each other up, in other words ;)
The two of us, eh?
(not you, I meant me and the other guy) ( joke)
;-)
chuckle
>
>
>> However, I DO wish you well in your search for "Christian
>> company/conversation on-line."
>
>Not really searching for it; as I said, I do pretty well for discussions
>about christianity.
Ah ! sorry! I missed that point!
gotcha
I was just having a brief snarl about a single post I
>happened to come across, and you're right, I probably shouldn't have
pounced
>on it quite as snappily as I did.
Ah! I hope it wasn't one of mine.
I DO like you, ya know!
I figure, as I've told friends where I live, we can gnash our teeth at
each other on Monday, and then on Tuesday, "it's a new day", and we
can LOOK FORWARD and be friendly again.
IT's the people who are CONSTANTLY saying, "but look how you were last
month!" who don't grow or move forward.
(guess who I'm talking about)
>
>But thanks for the good wishes, it's appreciated.
Deep bow!
john w
>
>Jani
>
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:34:37 +0100, "Jani" <jani@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
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author
>
>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:39:47 +0100, "Jani" <jani@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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><some snips cos it was getting unwieldy>
>
>[]
"unwieldy?"
:-(
Moi?
>
>> But what I'm saying, John, is that if Christians
>>>*themselves* are behaving badly on Usenet,
>>
>> #1 Why do you call them "Christians"?
>> How do you know that EVERYONE in here who calls themselves "Christian"
>> is one? (names that come to mind that are VERY doubtful would include
>> CB, Elaine, Jim Agar, Scout Lady)
>
>That's true, I don't - but on the whole, people who don't consider
>themselves christians say so. I don't make any bones about being
agnostic,
>for instance. I do think it's possible for someone to be a christian and
>behave badly; that just makes them a christian who's currently behaving
>badly, it doesn't mean they're not a christian.
>
>>
>> Isn't it up to YOU to weed out the wheat from the chaff?
>>
>> Also, you perhaps need to take the "ugly behavior " in context. If the
>> ONLY two stories you EVER read about Jesus were
>>
>> one about the day He yelled at Simon, "Get behind me, SATAN!" (in our
>> modern jargon, "Get out of my face, Satan!)
>>
>> one about Him going into the temple one day, shrieking "This is a
>> house of prayer! But YOU have turned it into a den of THIEVES!" and
>> then VIOLENTLY driving them out with brute PHYSICAL force!
>>
>> if those were the only two stories you ever read, would you STILL have
>> become a Christian?
>>
>> I likely would not!
>
>Well, I'm not christian anyway, but I'd certainly agree that there's
more to
>the christian scriptures than one or two stories.
That's for sure! And one of the reasons I am so unpopular (read
"hated") in here, by the likes of such as Elaine, is that I have been
taught enough over the decades by the scholars of our age that I have
learned to study and learn quite on my own.
I have made some FASCINATING discoveries in my own Bible studies (just
me, my Bibles, and the Holy Spirit)
As my confirmation that I am not "imagining things" when I study and
"find new gems", I will call or e-mail a friend in Japan or Germany or
Russia or wherever, and I'll say, very excitedly,
"Hey! I just found POLYGAMY in the 1st Century Church! Paul preached
a mini-sermon on it! One verse, but a CRUCIAL, PIVOTAL verse, if you
understand what Paul is saying!"
The person will get back to me 24 hours later with, "I prayed over
that passage, and the Holy Spirit said the same thing to me! Thanks!
I'd never seen that in that verse before!"
That to say this:
I am not at liberty to give you my e-mail address.
However, if you DARE to post yours, I will respond via e-mail.
If you would like a nice, gentle, mature adult take, (bearing in mind
my stated shortcomings), I DO know my Bible, if I take some passages
differently.
I correspond with SEVERAL people with whom I share their view as well
as mine.
It has over the years turned in to a RICH mutual sharing and mutual
love.
I wilt not try to convert you, (but frankly, I believe I can prove
that God is real to anyone with an open mind) And if God is real, we
can believe in Jesus Christ as God/man with little extra effort.
That said, I await your e-mail address.
(and if you're uncomfortable giving me a "real" one, go to Yahoo,
invent one for JUST THIS PURPOSE -- they're free-- and get back to me.
We can then exchange OTHER e-mail addresses (I have a dozen e-mail
addresses for a dozen different purposes, like eBay)
In the meantime, a Christian
Hug!
John
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<doldridg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:58:39 GMT, Dave Oldridge
>> <doldridg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>>"Bible John" <john.doggett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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>>>
>>>> As the director of a national growing web ministry that is focused
>>>> on providing resources for bible education, we have not had the time
>>>> to hunt out every false teacher and belief system (unlike some
>>>> apologetics centered ministries) such as Deception in the Church,
>>>> Biblical Discernment Ministries, CRI and many others that only focus
>>>> on false teachers and belief systems.
>>>>
>>>> However just today in the mail Grace to You (one of CERMS most
>>>> trusted sources) has sent out a mailing and is offering a free CD or
>>>> tape that speaks about exposing the false doctrines of the Mary
>>>> wor****ppers and of Roman Catholicism. When we receive this CD we
>>>> will listen to it, and Lord willing provide a article on CERM's
>>>> website in our apologetics section on Roman Catholicism.
>>>>
>>>> I'll also send out a post to these groups Lord willing on the
>>>> article update.
>>>>
>>>> So stay tuned. I know many of you struggle with this, and certainly
>>>> the Roman Catholic Church has more more influence than some little
>>>> cult like the Way International, OneNess Pentecostalism, Christian
>>>> Scientism, or such.
>>>
>>>And probably more than your own heretical cult. Which may explain
>>>your bigotry.
>>>
>>>Do you know of the Nicene Creed? Do you believe what it says? Do you
>>>think it outlines what a Christian must believe or do you think
>>>something should be added?
>>
>> Some believe in and recite the Nicene Creed, some believe in and
>> recite the Apostle's Creed.
>>
>> Since neither is found in the Bible, and since both contain false
>> teaching-- such as a teaching of the "ever-virgin Mary", many of us
>> REJECT both.
>
>But you accept sola scriptura in spite of the fact that it is not found
>in the Bible.
There is no mention whatever of an "ever-virgin Mary." Yet you believe
that.
There IS teaching IN the Bible that SUGGESTS strongly (to say the
LEAST) that the Bible is our sole authority.
It comes down to basically, "you choose to believe this, you choose to
NOT believe that."
Like the teaching AGAINST idols is VERY clear.
But since ALL YOUR teaching comes from ROME, and since Rome teaches
"idols are good things, we simply must re-define them", you are happy
as a clam to redefine "idols."
You reject transubstantiation in spite of the fact that it
>is biblical.
That is your interpretation/misinterpretation, and I have MANY times
pointed to the Old Testament derivation of the symbols used, and you
have never BOTHERED to READ about the Old Testament Paschal feast, or
comment on it.
"IF Rome says it", that's good enough for you!
Well, it ain't good enough for me, and I ask AGAIN, why are you in the
Baptist group?
>
>Seems to me that you are a bibliolater who is not particularly faithful
>to the false bible-god.
Seems to me that you like to label anyone who doesn't agree with you.
I don't "wor****p the Bible" which is ANOTHER in a LONG list of Roman
Catholic LIES you hold dear!
I simply believe it as it states, that it is the sole authority on
earth (besides the Holy Spirit, of Whom you have no knowledge)
>
>The Bible is a tradition of the Church.
Says you!
The Bible PREDATES the Roman Catholic Church (it AIN'T the only one)
by several HUNDRED years, in spite of the LIES you have been taught.
It is not God and it is not
>infallible,
It IS His PERFECT written word.
not even as a source of doctrine,
of course, THAT is where Rome comes in, "to fill in all the Gaps God
left!"
"How convenient!"
"We have found God's 10,000,000,000,000,000 mistakes, and we ALONE
have repaired all those mistakes! "
We ALONE, we in Rome!
You and your chums in Rome are so full of yourselves! You're full of
SOMETHING!
;-)
though we certainly consult
>it for that. But by making it your idol, you become an idolater.
smirk. I have NEVER bowed down to and wor****pped my Bible! So THAT is
a lie!
and you are TAUGHT that so that you are TAUGHT to HATE and LIE about
all of us who hold it in the high esteem YOU save for
Mary and Peter!
By
>being nasty about it and making up untruths about the way other people
>wor****p,
I am nasty to those who distort Christianity (that would be you)
you descend into the sin of false witness (yet again, what a
>surprise).
I don't lie about your faith. YOU do!
;-)
Until you repent your own very real sins, you cannot claim to
>be a member of God's community.
When do we get around to discussing YOUR idol wor****p, and your
wor****p of Mary and Pete?
The ONLY One I wor****p is God!
;-)
(YOu can't say that)
hehe
At best, you're a wannabe--an onlooker.
I bet God has blessed me at LEAST with as many miracles as He has
blessed you with!
Likely more!
Because while YOU waste time praying to Mary or Pete or St Whosis, I
pray directly to God!
;-)
You should try it sometime!
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> wrote:
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>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:46:09 GMT, "Mike Painter"
>> <mddotpainter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>> >john w wrote:
>> ><snip>
>> >
>> >> How in HELL would YOU know if I know how to do research or not,
>> >>
>> >> you PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!
>> >
>> >We have absolutely no way of knowing if you know how to do research.
>> >As with all your other claims of brillance, of family, and of
fortune, we
>> >have no evidence for it.
>>
>> And so far, neither you nor your boybuddy Dave motivated me one iota
>> do prove the sky is blue and cherries really are red!
>
>Of course, neither Mike nor I nor anyone else has asked for those
>things, but regardless of Weatherly's lame attempt at cleverness, it
>only comes out to be an attempted rationalization of avoidance and
>cowardice. The idea of having the intellectual courage and integrity
>and back up what one says is obviously a completely alien concept to
>Weatherly.
>
>> >If you do know how to do reesarch, you hide it well.
>>
>> lol!!
>>
>> Only YOU can hurt me like that!
>>
>> :-(
>>
>>
>> And what on EARTH makes you think I'd waste my time and energy to do
>> research that I'd post in HERE?
>
>There have been a few claims which would be the results of research,
>were they true. Posting the research is, as I said above, an
>indication of intellectual courage and integrity and even the "courage"
>part wouldn't be much of a big deal if Weatherly were to provide
>sup****ting information for some of his claims (e.g., the issue of
>extant Bible manuscripts). This is what intelligent people do.
You are still confusing me with someone who gives a rat's ass what you
think!
tsk tsk.
And you actually think that if you continue to call me "liar, coward,
lunatic", you are going to intimidate me.
larf larf.
I have done the research, s****t! ;-)
I have LIVED it! I am one who is WRITING the history of that time.
As I have said several times, I am putting a LOT of this in my
AUTOBIOGRAPHY! Publisher/agent ALREADY lined up!
So, NO! I'm NOT going to publish my RESEARCH in here!
Which makes your remarks STUPID! How do I PUBLISH and GET PAID for it
if I GIVE IT AWAY in HERE!???
You are stupider than a rock!
Or you think I am!
>
>What liars like Weatherly do is make claims and then run from them,
>using various means,
Do you have this all in a folder somewhere, and you cut-and-paste it?
I'd SWEAR you've used PRECISELY these two paragraphs a thousand times!
(we writers notice those things)
when challenged. If one thinks about it, how
>quickly would the arguments end if Weatherly would simply respond to
>calls for evidence *with* *evidence* instead of his usual "MYOB" and "I
>don't have to prove anything to *you*," along with the requisite
>name-calling?
Read the above, s****t. And then you can BUY a copy when it comes out!
;-)
*That* would sure show up his critics! But he never
>does it...because he can't.
What critics? The word "critic" suggests that the person
"criticizing" is saying something of worth that folks want to read.
rotfl!
The CRITICS haven't read my book yet!
:-)
I'm aiming for the New York Times book list!
Maybe even Oprah!
>
>> You sound stupider and stupider with every post (I didn't think THAT
>> was even POSSIBLE)
>
>Feel the love.
Give it, receive it!
>
>> tsk tsk
>>
>> One of the things you learn to do in getting a university degree in
>> Journalism, s****t, is RESEARCH. I excelled as what is called
>> "Investigative Re****ting" or "Investigative Journalism".
>
>Ah, yes...another boast.
Ah, more pure green envy!
You have no degree, so you envy the HELL out of mine!
:-(
But given that Weatherly has shown no
>capacity for critical thought,
smirk..
Cut-n-paste venom all right!
R U sure your other nick isn't "crawls?"
(reason I asked is, you're both equally psychotic)
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© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:20:13 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
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>>
>>
>>Jesus would not have made a POINT of being baptized, and THEN turning
>>around and baptizing a number of His first disciples (likely the 12)
>
>
>JESUS NEVER BAPTIZED.
Sure He did!
THE BIBLE SAYS IT.
>
Since there is no evidence that you read the Bible, how would you
know?
And why does it matter so much that you CONTROL what everyone else
believes?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Control freak!
> Learn to read, weatherless, and STOP trying to teach falsely in here.
>
>
>John 4:2 (Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
>
>Jesus baptized not — John being a servant baptized with his own hand;
>Christ as the Master, “baptizing with the Holy Ghost,” administered
>the outward symbol only through His disciples.
>
>You are erroneously referring to John 3.
>
>John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the
>land of Judea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
>
>
>baptized — in the sense explained in John 4:2.
>
>Jesus NEVER baptized anyone with water. The Disciples DID.
>
>IF you intend to continue trying to pass yourself as a Christian,
>please stop teaching falsely.
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>NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:46:09 GMT, "Mike Painter"
>> <mddotpainter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>> john w wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> How in HELL would YOU know if I know how to do research or not,
>>>>
>>>> you PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!
>>> We have absolutely no way of knowing if you know how to do research.
>>> As with all your other claims of brillance, of family, and of
fortune, we
>>> have no evidence for it.
>>>
>>> If you do know how to do reesarch, you hide it well.
>>>
>>
>> Just as he also hides his 'fortune' well- he's always griping about
>> being so broke all the time- where are those hundreds of thousands the
>> old growl claimed to have made for his 'writing' !! ??
>
>you'd think if he was any good he get residuals for all his great
writings
chuckle. "good one."
Actually, I don't think many of us have seen any evidence that you
THINK, retard!
;-)
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>On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:46:09 GMT, "Mike Painter"
><mddotpainter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>>john w wrote:
>><snip>
>>
>>> How in HELL would YOU know if I know how to do research or not,
>>>
>>> you PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!
>>
>>We have absolutely no way of knowing if you know how to do research.
>>As with all your other claims of brillance, of family, and of fortune,
we
>>have no evidence for it.
>>
>>If you do know how to do reesarch, you hide it well.
>>
>
>Just as he also hides his 'fortune' well- he's always griping about
>being so broke all the time- where are those hundreds of thousands the
>old growl claimed to have made for his 'writing' !! ??
I HAVE answered that question a dozen times already, Elaine.
Evidently, you had stuffed your head "back up" and didn't see the
reply.
Now you can wait and read the book!
;-)
Short answer:
#1 I thought the $$$ would last forever (it didn't), and VERY
FOOLISHLY spent a LOT of it. I was married at the time (to a
gold-digger), and SHE spent a LOT of it.
#2 divorce. What she didn't SPEND, she STOLE.
I'm SURE 95 people in here relate to BOTH.
#3 I became too ill (bi-polar and undiagnosed heart disorder
(Wolfe-Parkinson-white) to work.
And the above answer was not for Elaine or Dave or Mike Painter. The
answer above was for WORTHY folk who are curious and who are too new
to have seen my answer in the past.
Yes, there was a time I had a LOT of money. It didn't last.
I've heard of more than one person who's been there.
In fact, recently (a few years ago) a study was done of some 50 people
who'd won the lottery. As I recall, several were in prison. Only one
or two of the 50 was still "rich."
Most BLEW the money, like I (and my gold-digger ex-) did.
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>>>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 13:50:32 -0400, Colonel Panic
>>>> <kernelpanic@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>>> author
>>>> >In article <k02nc29k0paig34ttj25uodto66ftrtcrg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> ><wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> >> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:47:25 GMT, John Wesley Asquith
>>>> >> <johnasquith6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> >> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>> >> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the
>>>> >> author
>
>snip
>
>>>> >> Why was Clinton NEVER IMPEACHED FOR CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS, a
FELONY
>>>> >> that REQUIRES IMPEACHMENT?
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I think some are too quick to impeach Republicans for SNEEZING,
and
>>>> >> too eager to dismiss Presidential ABUSES if the Prez happens to
be a
>>>> >> Lefty.
>>>> >
>>>> >Damn, you must be on some strong medication to believe all that.
>>>>
>>>> Unlike some (read YOU), I am a news HOUND. I was sitting watching 4
>>>> networks and cable news when you were out barfing your beer at the
>>>> local s****ts pub.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> john w
>>>>
>>>> And I don't need to "do***ent" THAT any more than I need to
"do***ent"
>>>> the destruction of the Twin Towers on 9-11. Some of this stuff is
>>>> PURE COMMON KNOWLEDGE.
>>>>
>>>> So pull your head out!
>>>>
>>>
>>>I guess that's a "no credible cite available".
>
>>I said what I intended to say. You do not have permission to misquote
me.
>
>Why would anybody even want to quote you to start with is the question
you
>fail to ask. Inasmuch as you are a bit famous for making statements you
>cannot back up,
Nah! Actually, that's YOUR department!
You will snip 5 pages of do***entation, and then (like your buddy,
Elaine), you'll say, "Where's your proof?"
;-)
I'm onto you! You will never be as smart as I used to be!
;-)
but, you knew that!
smirk.
And I AM impressed that it actually took you TWO posts to spout all
your Satanic hate and lies this time!
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On 30 Jul 2006 09:07:09 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>NOs...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 02:35:57 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >FINALLY got you to open up and admit that you're an ignorant,
>> >uninformed, uneducated, loud-mouth, bigot and HATER!
>> >
>> The ignorant, uniformed, uneducated, loud-mouthed bigot and
>> hate-filled individual is YOURSELF, weatherless.
>
>The funniest part is that Weatherly, in effect,
Wow! Ain't this great? !!
Two Weatherly haters meet up! What will you two name the kids?
;-)
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:52:02 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 02:35:57 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
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>>
>>FINALLY got you to open up and admit that you're an ignorant,
>>uninformed, uneducated, loud-mouth, bigot and HATER!
>>
>The ignorant, uniformed, uneducated, loud-mouthed bigot and
>hate-filled individual is YOURSELF, weatherless.
Now that you've sweet talked me, where are we going for dinner,
sweety?
And your place or mine "after?"
;-)
>
>You project your own inadequacies onto others, all the while trying in
>vain to show yourself as the hero, the clever one, the hail-well-met
>happy sort of individual who is loved, admired, adored, and even
>emulated by everyone who encounters you.
Hmmmm.. sounds like you're projecting again.
;-)
Anyway, to snip the redundancy (hate dump)
feeling better now?
I'm glad!
didn't hurt me a bit!
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On 30 Jul 2006 07:03:44 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
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author
>john w wrote:
>
>> FINALLY got you to open up and admit that you're an ignorant,
>> uninformed, uneducated, loud-mouth, bigot...
>
>The real bigotry, here, is practiced by Weatherly. Only a religious
>bigot would ever presume to tell another that not being a member of a
>specific religion makes one unqualified to speak about that religion or
>to have an informed opinion about it.
Actually, only a religious bigot like YOU would make such a ridiculous
remark!
You, an OBVIOUS mentally incapacitated, evidently confined jerk,
presume to tell me that you-- an atheist-- understand the finer points
of Christianity FAR better than an avid student who has devoted his
life to its study.
larf larf
You ARE a card!
;-)
Only sadly, YOU take yourself SERIOUSLY!
tsk tsk
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On 30 Jul 2006 07:01:44 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
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author
>john w wrote:
>
>[Snip]
>
>> >> And PLEASE tell us all what in HECK makes YOU an "expert" on ANY
>> >> Christian topic?
>> >
>> >I'm not sure I necessarily made any claims to expertise
>>
>> FINALLY got you to open up and admit that you're an ignorant,
>> uninformed, uneducated, loud-mouth, bigot and HATER!
>
>Which, of course, is not what I wrote. Weatherly snipped that away and
>now misrepresents it--deliberately.
Nah! I just summarized! Like YOU like to pretend to do!
You just don't have the gray matter or the writing skills to
summarize.
So... where one like me can boil it down to two sentences, you take
those two sentences and ramble it into two BOOKS!
;-)
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>In <onvoc2t8s9tb5mukfvetvau373maequfrb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> desired to verify for the
>audience that he cannot read in context, nor does he understand
historical
>context for his particular mythology. Of course, this is nothing new.
>Follow-ups set to trolls home group, the Baptist one if anyone is in
>anyway curious.
>
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>>On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 05:43:16 GMT, "Mike Painter"
>><mddotpainter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this article
>>may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the author
>>>john w wrote:
>
>snip, jw had already wasted 131 lines in its going to get worse.
>
>>>This inability to believe anybody goes well with your christian image.
>>>While some may indeed "wor****p" Mary, it is *not* RCC doctrine and is
not
>>>taught in catechism, even when the nuns do it.
>
>>They don't ADMIT to wor****pping Mary, but since you aren't even a
>>Christian, there is no point WHATEVER in you and me getting into it.
>
>Frequently, the best people to study and understand xianity are those
who
>do not follow the mythology. You are an excellent example of why xians
>should not attempt to discuss a mythology in public the people that do
>understand it.
>
>>>> Likewise, point out the idols in your "churches" and the Roman
>>>> Catholic merely REDEFINES "idols" so that the term "no longer
>>>> applies."
>>>>
>>>Your definition of an idol.
>
>>No. The Bible's definition. If you own a Bible, look it up.
>
>Not everyone has a grimorie for you color in the pretty pictures with
your
>crayons
Aw! When you talk dirty like this, you just... well, you just get me
all hot and bothered!
;-)
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> wrote:
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>john w wrote:
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>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:49:22 -0500,
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>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>> In <7u2oc25lpnt933kgb305s996mblm2j8l3r@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, on 07/29/06
>>> at 06:31 PM, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> decided it was time to
play
>>> his I had family in high places joke one more time, and this is the
>>> result.
>>>
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>>> From: john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.religion.christian.baptist
>>> Subject: Re: Bush and Blair See An Op****tunity for Sweeping Mideast
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>>> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:31:07 -0700
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>>>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 11:26:39 -0500, PK & AMM <agent@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article
>>>> may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the author
>>>>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:47:25 GMT, John Wesley Asquith
>>>>> <johnasquith6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure, you bet. Just like they saw an op****tunity for sweeping
regime
>>>>>> change in Afghanistan, Iraq and are now focusing on Iran and
Syria.
>>>>>> Not to mention the mess they've got with North Korea and Pakistan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bush should have been impeached long ago for the felonies he has
>>>>>> committed (yes, he has violated entrenched federal law and abused
the
>>>>>> Constitution galore). Except for the Republican goons being in
power
>>>>>> and aligned with the right-wing-religious-wackos he would have
been
>>>>>> impeached too. Just wait until November. Things will change.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And once Bush would be impeached, Blair would be booted out by his
own
>>>>>> party in Parliament. Sad us, we have to wait for the op****tunity
that
>>>>>> comes only once each 4 years. Alas!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the response of the Lebanese ambassador on a recent
interview:
>>>>> "You act like the troubles started just 10 days ago!"
>>>>>
>>>>> But I'm sure the president of this great nation has an infallible
plan
>>>>> to solve the crisis once and for all.
>>>
>>>> Being a "DC brat" (born and raised in our nation's capitol), and
having
>>>> had family IN THE ADMINISTRATION during JFK's brief term, let me
tell you
>>>> something.
>>> Yes, the audience has heard this before.
>>
>> It wasn't said for your benefit, cute stuff!
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> And I AM totally chagrined that your archiving and posting of my every
>> word suddenly stopped when I told you I was using your archives for my
>> next book!
>>
>> You really are trying to inhibit my ability to recreate not only my
>> history, but to do***ent your pathological nonsense, aren't you?
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> I really AM onto you!
>
>Your my hero daddy!
You're my hero, too, General!
Sa lute!
(and that's my lie for the day. However, I am sure you'll tell 100
more)
>suny
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:59:54 -0400, Colonel Panic
<kernelpanic@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>In article <uvuoc25jm8g9mqgmdtaqknvl0jnrt3d5g9@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 00:56:20 -0400, Colonel Panic
>> <kernelpanic@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>> >In article <33cnc25vsg9s71irsf1a4a7iukoiof56dq@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
>> ><wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >
>> >> x-no-archive: yes
>> >> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 13:50:32 -0400, Colonel Panic
>> >> <kernelpanic@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> >> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the
>> >> author
>> >> >In article <k02nc29k0paig34ttj25uodto66ftrtcrg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
>> >> ><wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> x-no-archive: yes
>> >> >> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:47:25 GMT, John Wesley Asquith
>> >> >> <johnasquith6@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> >> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> >> >> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the
>> >> >> author
>> >> >> >Sure, you bet. Just like they saw an op****tunity for sweeping
regime
>> >> >> >change in Afghanistan, Iraq and are now focusing on Iran and
Syria.
>> >> >> >Not to mention the mess they've got with North Korea and
Pakistan.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Bush should have been impeached long ago for the felonies he
has
>> >> >> >committed
>> >> >>
>> >> >> chuckle.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> So when are you going to discuss Clinton's TREASON?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yes, TREASON.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> He OPENLY accepted ILLEGAL campaign contributions from two of
our
>> >> >> nation's mortal ENEMIES, North Korea and Red China! (we got it
on
>> >> >> videotape, remember?) The ONLY thing that kept Clinton and
AlGore out
>> >> >> of federal prison was one of the most LEFT wing Congresses in US
>> >> >> history!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> But go ahead and PRETEND to be outraged!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Did you remember that Clinton was ORDERED by Congress (the same
>> >> >> assembly that IMPEACHED Nixon, you may recall) to turn over
crucial
>> >> >> do***ents (some 100 do***ents REMAIN MISSING TO THIS DAY!)
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Why was Clinton NEVER IMPEACHED FOR CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS, a
FELONY
>> >> >> that REQUIRES IMPEACHMENT?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think some are too quick to impeach Republicans for SNEEZING,
and
>> >> >> too eager to dismiss Presidential ABUSES if the Prez happens to
be a
>> >> >> Lefty.
>> >> >
>> >> >Damn, you must be on some strong medication to believe all that.
>> >>
>> >> Unlike some (read YOU), I am a news HOUND. I was sitting watching 4
>> >> networks and cable news when you were out barfing your beer at the
>> >> local s****ts pub.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> john w
>> >>
>> >> And I don't need to "do***ent" THAT any more than I need to
"do***ent"
>> >> the destruction of the Twin Towers on 9-11. Some of this stuff is
>> >> PURE COMMON KNOWLEDGE.
>> >>
>> >> So pull your head out!
>> >>
>> >
>> >I guess that's a "no credible cite available".
>>
>>
>> I said what I intended to say. You do not have permission to misquote
>> me.
>
>I didn't misquote you and I don't need your permission to do anything.
You need my permission to misquote me and then say that your twist of
my words is what I said.
>I interpreted
You misinterpreted.
your insults and ranting as an indication that you have
>no facts to back up your claims.
Nor do your rants and insults reflect what I said.
To disagree with you is not a sin or a crime.
Get a life, and in the meantime, go have ***ual intercourse with
yourself!
>
>
>> Were you so interested in the FACTS, rather than your current HUA
>> disorder, the information should be READILY available on the Internet!
>>
>> Why don't you do some research, rather than lie?
>
>
>You made a bunch of outlandish claims you can't back up.
Actually, I didn't. "common knowledge."
Not "outlandish claims."
And if you didn't have your nose so far up sick wily's butt, you might
know a few things you don't know!
;-)
At any rate, you'll find plenty of do***entation (hard copy) in
William Bennett's famous treatise on the Clinton's "The Death of
Outrage."
Burden of
>proof is yours.
See above, mental amoeba.
>
>Why don't you start with the one about "one of the most left wing
>congresses in history"?
Self-evident. They legislated AWAY our gun rights. They were so
extreme that they outlawed the right to carry arms of some 20 % of our
nation's police and military. Emergency "clauses" had to be inserted
at the last minute when some noticed that our police were about to be
disarmed.
The same ill-advised (illegal bill, that I will challenge) was made
"Infinitely retroactive" ( violating the "double jeopardy" clause)
In other words, the "domestic violence" clause stated that, if a 45
year old man buys a gun, and when he's 50, it is determined that when
he was 14, he shoved his girlfriend against a locker one day at
school, RETROACTIVELY, he has "broken the domestic violence laws", and
30 years ago, he has now given up his right to own a gun!
If you don't know about THAT, you are simply uninformed.
In the same time-frame, he played with the military with the utterly
RIDICULOUS "don't ask, don't tell" policy allowing homo***ual in the
military to "remain in the closet" which too many refuse to do.
>Or maybe you can try to prove the one about illegal campaign
>contributions from China and North Korea.
AGAIN, slick, I am betting if you BOTHERED to look it up on the web,
you'd get 500,000 hits!
I'm not going to do your work for you! I might spend an HOUR gathering
links, and you'd just say, "don't believe you! Your 200 sources are
ALL biased."
You're a loser!
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:49:56 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:07:05 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>The woman was made in man's image.
>
>
>More weatherless insanity.........
In other words, if I disagree with you, or put something / ANYTHING
even SLIGHTLY differently than you would put it, your insane HATRED of
me causes you to declare me
NOT "wrong"
but "INSANE!"
tsk tsk
There simply is no warm water in your house, Elaine! It's either ice,
or it's steam! Only the EXTREMES for you!
Sad!
>
>The BIBLE disagrees with you:
>
>Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God
>created he him; male and female created he them.
I don't see a phrase or word string in the above verse that states,
>>
>> YOU have still not answered my question.
>>>
>>>DID YOU TRY TO HAVE UJIE'S ACCOUNT NICKED?????
>>
>>Jimmy, your lover, just told you what happened!
>>
>>SHEESH!
>>
>>You are sooooooooooooooo paranoid! And delusional!
>>
>>And when did you EVER earn the right to ask me the time of day?
>>
>>Psycho *****!
>>
>TRANSLATION:
> Yes, I DID try to have Ujie's account ruined, but he was too clever
>for me, poor stupid liar-Johnnie-DD-weatherless!!
You are just SOoooo good at speaking for everyone BUT yourself!
>>
>>Go have ***ual intercourse with yourself!
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Usual insanity and ***ual obsessions again duly
>noted..... and archived.
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Was >> Re: Faith and Science - The "One God" myth.
Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:57:40 -0700
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:58:55 +0200, Werner -the Christian Agnostic-
Kurator <werner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>john w in <7i8oc29ei4qmcdiqt72mb969v7a7dg49o1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>on 2006-07-30 announced this statement:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 21:42:14 +0200, Werner -the Christian Agnostic-
>> Kurator <werner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>>john w in <cfcnc2po3d95p4bc71iopg9mn664a29bmq@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>on 2006-07-29 announced this statement:
>>>
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:48:39 +0200, Werner -the Christian Agnostic-
>>>> Kurator <werner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>>> author
>>>>>john w in <d0skc25n87ioion6vnrhb2p5rt0tee75dl@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>on 2006-07-28 announced this statement:
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:30:27 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the
>>>>>> author
>>>>>>>***ually inappropriate comments duly noted and archived:
>>>>>>>July 28,2006
>>>>>>
>>>>>> delusions of self-im****tance by one Elaine Merle Matthews noted
and
>>>>>> archived.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (like, who gives a ****, Elaine?)
>>>>>
>>>>>Still the same Dude......
>>>>
>>>> Amazing isn't it, how many of my posts you skipped over ENTIRELY
>>>> before you found THIS one to comment on!
>>>
>>>It just happened that this afternoon I marked the group ACC as read,
>>>and when I started to read it again some time ago, I found your
>>>post, no need to search, and so I just read it, which as it
>>>turned out was a mistake...
>>
>> Fair enough!
>>
>> Would it then be acceptable for me to apologize?
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sincerely sorry if I offended you!
>
>You should apologize to the person *you* really offended, namely
>the woman "Elaine".
The woman "Elaine' gets offended every time I scratch my backside.
[ I apologize Elaine! I just scratched my butt again!]
>
>You see John, I didn't really believe that you were a
>*****-author* as some-one accused you of.
There are a variety of perspectives on that issue. As I have said,
there is "****' in the Bible, if you read Hebrew.
And the "romance novels" that have flooded a certain segment of the
market are "mass market" "feminine POV ****."
Now having read the
>*advise* you gave to her, I think you are guilty as charged...
"Guilty?" hardly.
But you are certainly entitled to be a narrow-minded bigot!
>
>EOD for me on this point.
>
>>
>>
>> Forgive me!
>>
>>:-)
>>
>> God bless!
>>
>> john w
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jesus put it this way:
>>>>
>>>> "Seek and you shall find."
>>>
>>>Sorry what I'm seeking I haven't found in any of your posts.
>>>So knowing that not much has changed I'll *ignore* you again.
>>>If you feel worthwhile you may respond, just know I'll may be
>>>not reading it...
>>>
>>>I'm just wondering if you gave the following advice to another
>>>single Christian mom?
>>>
>>>== quote:
>>>>>>>>Go warm up your vibrator, darlin',
>>>>>>>>be sure the batteries are fresh,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>and then have ***ual intercourse with yourself!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>(You must have the strongest wrists in Canada. You know! From all
that
>>>>>>>>vibrator action! )
>>>
>>>== end quote
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Werner Kurator
>>
>
>
>Werner Kurator
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:34:37 +0100, "Jani" <jani@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
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>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:39:47 +0100, "Jani" <jani@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> But what I'm saying, John, is that if Christians
>>>*themselves* are behaving badly on Usenet,
>>
>> #1 Why do you call them "Christians"?
>> How do you know that EVERYONE in here who calls themselves "Christian"
>> is one? (names that come to mind that are VERY doubtful would include
>> CB, Elaine, Jim Agar, Scout Lady)
>
>That's true, I don't - but on the whole, people who don't consider
>themselves christians say so. I don't make any bones about being
agnostic,
>for instance. I do think it's possible for someone to be a christian and
>behave badly; that just makes them a christian who's currently behaving
>badly, it doesn't mean they're not a christian.
>
Now, to answer some of these points.
I didn't realize/remember you're an agnostic.
Let me say this about that. I find that agnosticism is far more
intellectually honest than atheism, which I consider
morally/spiritually dishonest.
The atheist can't prove "there is NO God!" And he can't even do***ent
"there's not even any EVIDENCE that there's a God."
And all the "arguments" and "reasons" they produce that "prove there's
no proof" are circular. All I've seen anyway.
They all seem to boil down to this: There's no God. So there can't be
any evidence that there's a God! So even if you are absolutely
CERTAIN that there's a God, since we already ESTABLISHED that there
ISN"T one, you must be MISTAKEN about your belief that there's
1. a God (there isn't)
2. there's evidence (there can't be "evidence" since "everyone knows
there's no God)
Circular.
(example)
Since we all know there aren't any garguts, you can't produce any
evidence that there are actually garguts, because we all know there
are no garguts.
Problem:
I have a gargut here in my hand! Look!
Answer:
You cannot POSSIBLY have a gargut in your hand, because there are no
garguts. So, NO! I will NOT look at your gargut, because there simply
aren't any.
( refusing to look at your gargut)
(an example)
The agnostic (as I understand agnosticism) simply states, honestly, "I
don't know if there |
