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Subject: Re: Is the gift of Tongues for the church today?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:23:57 -0700
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:56:48 GMT, Bible Bob <biblebob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
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>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 05:47:21 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
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>>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 00:22:12 -0400, "Sugien" <dinosoft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>author
>>>
>>>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>news:d0cgc2teh8nvls877479tmomrtnajdsbbn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:02:29 -0400, "Sugien" <dinosoft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>>> author
>>>>>
>>>>>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>news:f4kdc2pjjajafb55tvtqvsubb0ur9hnm6h@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 06:04:07 GMT, "Songzster"
<beethoven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of
>>>>>> this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent
of
>>>>>> the author
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Sugien" <dinosoft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:96adneHxWtEWCljZnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Bible John" <john.doggett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:1153783837_110217@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>> http://www.cerm.info/bible_studies/Theological/sign_gifts.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>><big snip for bandwith>
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then why does Paul ALSO say, "tongues then are for NONbelievers,
not
>>>>>> for believers?"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the passage to which you refer, Paul is REBUKING The
Corinthians!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Don't you have that backwards?
>>>>
>>>> NO.
>>>>
>>>> As someone else just pointed out recently, typically, the first
>>>> mention of a subject is typically the "model", unless subsequent
>>>> mentions are RADICALLY different.
>>>>
>>>> When the apostles/disciples spoke in tongues at Pentecost, they
spoke
>>>> for the benefit of NON-believers who were visiting Jerusalem.
>>>>
>>>> They were not edifying EACH OTHER. They attracted a crowd by
speaking
>>>> in a dozen languages simultaneously, and then when they had their
>>>> crowd of THOUSANDS, Peter preached the gospel to the CROWD OF
>>>> UNbelievers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul is saying it is *for* believers because
>>>>>if non-believers come in and all are speaking in tongues they would
be
>>>>>thought mad.
>>>>
>>>> Show me that passage!
>>>
>>>
>>>I did but for what ever reason you refused to read it and put your sig
line
>>>*before* the verse that says it: see below or look up this verse;
however
>>>here it is again:
>>>
>>>1 Corinthians 14:23 If therefore the whole church be come together
into one
>>>place, and all speak with tongues, and there come in those that are
>>>unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad?
>>
>>I saw it! I didn't comment because
>>#1 it was not / is not relevant to the point
>>#2 it was a REBUKE not an instruction.
>
>No, jw. It is not a rebuke. It is reproof. All scripture is given
>by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for
>correction which is instruction in righteousness. Reproof is from
>elegchose (to confute, admonish) while rebuke is from epilesso (to
>chastize). Compare 1 Tim 5:1 and 20 where in 5:1 rebuke not an elder
>and in 5:20 rebuke (reprove) them that sin before all.
>>
>>Paul is saying, "should 300 of you gather together, and all 300 of you
>>begin speaking in tongues to amuse each other, and then some come in
>>who aren't believers, how is God edified? How are the unbelievers
>>edified?
>
>Paul did not say anything about
You continue to be a drooling, blithering idiot who can't figure out
and apply a simple metaphor!
john w
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Subject: Re: Is the gift of Tongues for the church today?
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>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 05:22:44 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
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>>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 00:36:47 -0400, "Sugien" <dinosoft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>author
>>>
>>>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>news:gcbgc2h0lbtgo43dupb646t52smqo66f4d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:28:47 -0400, "Sugien" <dinosoft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>>> author
>>>>>
>>>>>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>news:8kefc252rdmll2s312r3qfpdvatnb7iuku@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:57:24 GMT, "Songzster"
<beethoven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
the
>>>>>> author
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:lq6fc2lhkpf2j1pgnb5aa68jofc5gt2hru@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 06:20:50 GMT, "Songzster"
<beethoven@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>He also says he will pray with understanding AND with the Spirit
- and
>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>he will sing with understanding AND with the Spirit - thus one
can
>>>>>>>>>pray
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>sing in the flesh using their native tongue, but praying and
singing
>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>the Spirit involves something other than understanding.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are AGAIN misinterpreting.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Every time I bow my head and pray, "Lord, bless this meal", I am
>>>>>>>> praying with my Spirit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That IS NOT what Paul says. What he says VERY PLAINLY is that
there is
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>difference between praying "with the Spirit" and "praying with
>>>>>>>understanding." Your argument is with Paul, not me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My argument is with your misunderstanding of what Paul said and
meant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1CO 14:18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than all of
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *** 19 But in the church I would rather speak
>>>>>>
>>>>>> five intelligible words to instruct others
>>>>>>
>>>>>> than ten thousand words in a tongue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I need no 'other tongue."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thus - if tongues have ceased, we are no longer capable of
singing or
>>>>>>>>>praying "with the Spirit"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Says who?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You have NO CLUE what you are talking about! You merely parrot
the WOF
>>>>>>>> charlatans.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They have no clue either!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1CO 13:8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies,
they
>>>>>>>> will cease;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Prophesy (the ability to see the future, as Bible prophesy does,
and
>>>>>>>> the gift the apostles used to write the New Testament) "will
cease."
>>>>>>>> When the New Testament was completed (in the 1st C), the "gift
of
>>>>>>>> prophesy" ceased.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is an interpretation, a common one, but an interpretation of
and by
>>>>>>>man/men nonetheless.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's as valid as anything you have come up with, or that the WOF
>>>>>> movement has come up with, and it fits the scripture, and it
"works."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my almost 60 years, I have attended perhaps a dozen different
>>>>>> "Pentecostal" churches, and I have YET to hear one single incident
of
>>>>>> anyone speaking in tongues.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I DID hear was a lot of babbling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (and BTW, there is a lot more to prophecy than you
>>>>>>>state.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are two types of prophesy mentioned in the Bible. You
confuse
>>>>>> the two.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The type of prophesy that is a special gift (a "sign" gift) was
given
>>>>>> TO THE APOSTLES to use to write the Bible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other kind of prophesy that is mentioned simply means
"preaching".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no other.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And Paul said-- and history has proved-- that the prophesy
involved in
>>>>>> writing the Bible-- is LONG gone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nowhere else in scripture does "perfect" refer to scriptures or
"Canon."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone who is HONEST spiritually can do the timeline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Something-- SOMETHING -- PERFECT came AFTER Paul wrote the first
of
>>>>>> the epistles, and AFTER the Holy Spirit came. Since the Holy
Spirit
>>>>>> came in Acts 2, the "perfect" cannot refer to the Holy Spirit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Are you referring to:
>>>>>
>>>>>1 Corinthians 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
>>>>>10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in
part
>>>>>shall
>>>>>be done away.
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you saying this is referring to the bible coming? and not the
return
>>>>>of
>>>>>Jesus?
>>>>
>>>> Precisely!
>>>>
>>>> The Bible fits the prophesy! "When the perfect (Bible) comes (is
>>>> complete/ the writing of it finished), the imperfect (sign gifts:
>>>> tongues/knowledge/prophesy) shall pass away.
>>>>
>>>> And note, "when I was a child (baby Christian), I spoke as a child
>>>> (tongues); when I became a man (mature Christian/"maturity"
shouldn't
>>>> take over 5 or 10 years), I put away the childish things (speaking
in
>>>> tongues/signs)
>>>>
>>>> Note that Paul is saying that this cessation has ALREADY TAKEN
place.
>>>>
>>>> "When I BECAME a MAN, I PUT AWAY childish things.' Past tense.
>>>>
>>>> By the time Paul wrote 1 Cor 13, the sign gifts had already ceased.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are aware that in Paul's day the old testament already existed
>>>>>correct?
>>>>
>>>> ??????
>>>>
>>>> Are YOU aware that Jesus BEGAN His ministry by going to the TEMPLE
and
>>>> reading the Old Testament scrolls?
>>>>
>>>> Have you done any reading on exactly how and when the NT came into
>>>>>existence?
>>>>
>>>> I know that there are several different traditions regarding this.
>>>> I also know that the apostles knew that they were writing scripture,
>>>> and that before the end of the 1st C (that's like between 30 AD and
99
>>>> AD), they were ALREADY circulating the different (books/letters),
>>>> meaning the Bible was being WIDELY read in "tract" form in the 1st
C.
>>>>
>>>> Done any reading on the council at Nicea? Have you read about
>>>>>Marcus's Eraser. Have your read any of the texts that *did not*
make it
>>>>>into our present day NT?
>>>>
>>>> I am not going to even get into this discussion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you aware that the last book of the NT only
>>>>>made it in by *one* vote? Those references are part of the reading
I have
>>>>>taken into consideration along with reading the bible and as such I
can
>>>>>only
>>>>>conclude that the above referenced NT verses if they *are* what you
are
>>>>>referring to would be talking about when Jesus comes back and not
about
>>>>>the
>>>>>bible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What I am saying is that the book of 1 Cor was in WIDE circulation
in
>>>> the 1st Century AD, and the CHURCH of THAT day was WELL aware of
>>>> Paul's teaching CENTURIES before any "Nicean Council" made any
>>>> "decisions" or "canonized" any books.
>>>
>>>Are you aware that the letters of Paul were correspondence sent to the
>>>various churches they are named for?
>>
>>Of course! If you are a "Johnny-come-lately", I am one whose pastors
>>these past 50 + years have been NOTED scholars (Bible translators all)
>>I doubt if you could tell me much
>
>Well, they aren't too good at what they do as evidenced by your lack
>of knowledge of the Scriptures.
BB, you have YET to figure out
(My GOSH! You are one STUPID SOB)
nobody but you cares a RIP what you think about aNYTHING!
You are running neck and neck to be as stupid and unenlightened as
Steve Winters!
You keep wanting to jump into the discussions, but you never ADD
ANYTHING!
sheesh!
john w
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>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> I doubt if you could tell me much
>
>herein, of course, lying much of you problem.
pot kettle, demoniac!
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On 27 Jul 2006 07:02:19 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>john w wrote:
>
>> >Are you aware that the letters of Paul were correspondence sent to
the
>> >various churches they are named for?
>>
>> Of course! If you are a "Johnny-come-lately", I am one whose pastors
>> these past 50 + years have been NOTED scholars (Bible translators all)
>> I doubt if you could tell me much
>>
>> (other than in the original languages/I have NO gift for languages)
>>
>> that I don't already know.
>>
>> I have MANY times had people comment that my list of pastors reads
>> like a "Who's Who" of 20th and 21st C Christian Theologians.
>>
>> As such they were *not* read as
>> >scripture,
>>
>> Say your "sources", and my sources would not agree. This precise issue
>> has been discussed /debated at more than one church, and in more than
>> one SEMINARY.
>>
>> Believe me, the writings of the apostles (those that survive) were
>> CHERISHED, and they were understood as inspired. And they were passed
>> around.
>>
>> and only read by those they were sent to.
>>
>> Also not true. There are 1st and 2nd C copies of MANY of the mms ALL
>> OVER the Middle East.
>
>This evening, I will enter this thread, and demolish Weatherly and his
>claims, yet again.
>
>For now, all I have time left to post is that Weatherly had previously
>claimed that 1st Century copies were being kept in a very secure
>location, apparently known only to him and a few other people. Of
>course, when asked about the details, Weatherly launched into his
>normal litany of tantrums, lies, and excuses.
>
>Here, he tells us that copies of "MANY" of the manuscripts, including
>1st Century copies are "ALL OVER the Middle East."
>
>We'll see...I'll be challenging these claims...all of them.
Knock yourself out, demon!
I didn't answer you before, I won't answer you now!
;-)
As scripture says, "all will be revealed in good time!"
And THAT is ALL YOU need to know!
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Subject: Re: Is the gift of Tongues for the church today?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:17:24 -0700
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:46:26 GMT, Bible Bob <biblebob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 04:58:17 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>x-no-archive: yes
>>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 03:45:20 GMT, Bible Bob <biblebob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>author
>>>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:48:38 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>x-no-archive: yes
>>>>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 18:43:22 GMT, Bible Bob <biblebob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>wrote:
>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>>article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>>>author
>>>>>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:41:14 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 06:46:21 GMT, Bible Bob <biblebob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>> copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of
>>>>>>this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent
of
>>>>>>the author
>>>>>>>On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 23:18:12 -0700, "Bible John"
>>>>>>><john.doggett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Brother Weatherly I would appreciate a moment of your time in a
AIM or IRC
>>>>>>>>chat.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Lord willing we need to get over our differences.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Lord willing,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>John,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>What does "Lord willing" mean? Obviously, since there is supposed
to
>>>>>>>be unity in he one body people are instructed to put aside their
>>>>>>>differences so they can walk in unity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have always wondered why any Christian would ever say "Lord
willing"
>>>>>>>since it indicates that the person does not know the will of God
>>>>>>>because he does not read his Bible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>AGAIN, BB, you demonstrate OPENLY that you are not any sort of
sincere
>>>>>>Bible student, and that you only quote/remember those passages you
>>>>>>find advantageous.
>>>>>
>>>>>Actually, John, that is proof that I am a student of the Bible.
>>>>
>>>>LOL!!
>>>>
>>>>You are such a _____!
>>>> The
>>>>>phrase "Lord willing" does not appear in the Bible.
>>>>
>>>>And a Pharisee, too!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Why? Because God
>>>>>has revealed unto us all things that pertain to life and godliness
>>>>
>>>>If that were true, there would be NO reason for us to pray.
>>>
>>>There is no reason for us to pray that prayer.
>>
>>AGAIN, Satan! You have NO clue, and I am not going to mince words with
>>you!
>>
>>Jesus gave the Lord's Prayer to the apostles!
>>
>>You God damned LIAR!
>>
>>
>>john w
>>
>>snip
>>
>jw,
>
>No. He taught Matthew five and six to his disciples.
You are SUCH a demonic LIAR!
A "Bible scholar" you are NOT!
john w
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Subject: Re: Is the gift of Tongues for the church today?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:15:51 -0700
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:58:46 GMT, Bible Bob <biblebob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On 27 Jul 2006 06:09:24 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>john w wrote:
>>
>>[Snip]
>>
>>> >> Why? Because God
>>> >>>has revealed unto us all things that pertain to life and godliness
>>> >>
>>> >>If that were true, there would be NO reason for us to pray.
>>> >
>>> >There is no reason for us to pray that prayer.
>>>
>>> AGAIN, Satan! You have NO clue, and I am not going to mince words
with
>>> you!
>>>
>>> Jesus gave the Lord's Prayer to the apostles!
>>
>>As usual, any time anyone responds to Weatherly with much of substance
>>at all, Weatherly is out of the pool.
>>
>>> You God damned LIAR!
>>
>>Feel the love.
>
>jw,
>
>That's called using the God's name in vain.
Actually, BB, if you pulled your head out for a change, the way I used
the term, it is NOT taking God's name in vain!
I have heard that term FROM THE PULPIT in church on a Sunday morning.
Would you not agree that Satan is a "God damned sinner?"
THAT use is NOT "taking the Lord's name in vain!"
And you have simply proved that you don't THINK before you REACT!
Satan!
Did you know that is a
>sin?
Actually, dumbass, it's not.
Remaining demonic accusations and vomit snipped.
john w
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Subject: Re: Fighting the good fight
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:12:38 -0700
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> wrote:
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>
>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:56:30 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of
>> this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
>> the author
>> >
>> >"(W-H-O-S-O-E-V-E-R)" <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> >news:1153847174.813468.178650@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>
>> >> Scout Lady wrote:
>> >>> No it did not phase me in the least. However sin is always
communal, it
>> >>> affects more than the person who sins against the other, it
affects the
>> >>> entire Body.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe you should make that into desktop wallpaper.
>> >>
>> >I would be glad to if you think it will help you remember. Let me
know.
>>
>> AGAIN, SL proves she's Elaine's twin sister, NEVER NEVER NEVER
>> applying any of the advice she or anyone else gives to herself!
>>
>How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your
>eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
>>
>> It's just ALWAYS 'about the OTHER guy!" IT's NEVER EVER about SL!
>>
>You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you
>will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
Actually, genius who walks on water, while you had your head lodged so
high up your butt, someone corrected me just today!
And I accepted his correction quite graciously!
He was nice about it (something YOU NEVER manage), and I was nice in
return!
You seem to have never quite learned that you attract more flies with
honey than you do with the vinegar you daily dispense.
;-)
Even the old song "A Spoonful of Sugar" evades you!
You MUCH prefer smacking people upside the head viciously to get their
attention.
And I've told you a hundred times, when you smack ME upside my head
to get my attention, I knock you on your ass, and allow you to pick
yourself up and count your remaining teeth!
(metaphorically, of course)
You COULD learn something about PRESENTATION, if you were ONLY open to
learning! (you're not)
:-(
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>He who winks with his eye is plotting perversity; he who purses his
>lips is bent on evil.
>>
>> We DO understand, SL!
>>
>Do we also have your condition?
>>
>> really
>>
>Yeah, uh-huh, and sure.
>>
>> Few in this world have EVER reached your state of perfection!
>>
>Pot-kettle-black...
>>
>> Perhaps some day you will deem the rest of us worthy to write about it
>> so we'll all know how you got to be so .... perfect!
>>
>and pole-eye.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>He who winks maliciously causes grief, and a chattering fool comes to
>ruin.
>>
>> >
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Subject: Re: Fighting the good fight
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> wrote:
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>
>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:56:30 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of
>> this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
>> the author
>> >
>> >"(W-H-O-S-O-E-V-E-R)" <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> >news:1153847174.813468.178650@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>
>> >> Scout Lady wrote:
>> >>> No it did not phase me in the least. However sin is always
communal, it
>> >>> affects more than the person who sins against the other, it
affects the
>> >>> entire Body.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe you should make that into desktop wallpaper.
>> >>
>> >I would be glad to if you think it will help you remember. Let me
know.
>>
>> AGAIN, SL proves she's Elaine's twin sister, NEVER NEVER NEVER
>> applying any of the advice she or anyone else gives to herself!
>>
>How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your
>eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye?
pot kettle, JohnH!
Now, run along and have ***ual intercourse with yourself!
;-)
>>
>> It's just ALWAYS 'about the OTHER guy!" IT's NEVER EVER about SL!
>>
>You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you
>will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>He who winks with his eye is plotting perversity; he who purses his
>lips is bent on evil.
>>
>> We DO understand, SL!
>>
>Do we also have your condition?
>>
>> really
>>
>Yeah, uh-huh, and sure.
>>
>> Few in this world have EVER reached your state of perfection!
>>
>Pot-kettle-black...
>>
>> Perhaps some day you will deem the rest of us worthy to write about it
>> so we'll all know how you got to be so .... perfect!
>>
>and pole-eye.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>He who winks maliciously causes grief, and a chattering fool comes to
>ruin.
>>
>> >
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:18:00 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
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author
>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 10:17:06 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Elaine, get help, while it is still voluntary!
>>
>>I mean, when the right / (wrong) people see a few HUNDRED of your
>>psychotic ravings and rantings in here, you rae going to be locked up
>>for a VERY long time!
>post your ridiculous, retarded idle rants somewhere else, old man
>weatherless. You don't frighten me one iota.
>You're a joke.
>So are your opinions.
>
> Now be quiet.
Go warm up your vibrator, darlin',
be sure the batteries are fresh,
and then have ***ual intercourse with yourself!
(You must have the strongest wrists in Canada. You know! From all that
vibrator action! )
;-)
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Subject: Re: two 2 word messages for JOHN WOLF One scriptural
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 09:09:18 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>
>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:46:53 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>> <witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>>
>>>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>news:2ndfc2d3hfsoaersaebaguq6rsvc9lcc9s@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:00:10 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
>>>> <witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>>> author
>>>>>
>>>>>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>snip
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You really should turn yourself in, fella! They have such a nice
white
>>>>>> leather restraint jacket for you to wear! It has all these belts
and
>>>>>> buckles on it!
>>>>>
>>>>>Sounds like the voice of experience talking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Funny you should mention that!
>>>>
>>>> chuckle.
>>>>
>>>> You have obviously never done any master's work in the field of
>>>> psychology!
>>>
>>>No ****, Sherlock. I have a degree in English Literature. No strait
>>>jacket
>>>required.
>>
>> For YOU, I'm sure they'll make an exception!
>
>Don't be stupid. I'm not the one with a mental illness - That's you,
>rememberf?
Before you declare yourself "sane" and all that rubbish, you really
should check in for the 6-month psych evaluation!
;-)
>
>> And you sure have a foul mouth for a lady!
>
>What's your ****ing point?
You just made it!
Elaine!
;-)
>>
>> Guess you ain't a lady!
>
>See above.
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wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 04:33:49 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>Get help, ****forbrains, while it is voluntary!
>
>
>MORE idle threats from the resident maniac...
tsk tsk!
Projecting yet again, Elaine!
;-)
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Subject: Re: Google Groups deleted this group...?
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:48:02 -0400, "Scout Lady"
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>"Jan Krohn" <webmaster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> What happened to this group in Google Groups...? There were thousands
>> of postings here, and now they all seem to be gone...
>>
>> The other alt.religion.christian.* groups seem to be okay.
>>
>I see 934,000 posts.
>
Gee! I only have some 350,000 on MY server!
:-(
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Subject: Re: Google Groups deleted this group...?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:58:31 -0700
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:21:05 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:00:37 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>x-no-archive: yes
>>On 26 Jul 2006 10:27:57 -0700, "Jan Krohn"
>><webmaster@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>author
>>>What happened to this group in Google Groups...? There were thousands
>>>of postings here, and now they all seem to be gone...
>>>
>>>The other alt.religion.christian.* groups seem to be okay.
>>
>>
>>If you missed it, Google recently decided to dump all alt.religion
>>groups (I'm guessing it's just those) after 15 days archiving.
>>
>>So you won't find anything older than 2 weeks.
>>
>>
>>john w
>
>But if he or she wants anything, there are many of us who can provide
>the missing pieces.
Now that you have offered, would you be so kind as to repost ALL my
past posts (I KNOW you have every single one) for the past 5 years?
I want to be sure I have them all!
I KNOW YOU do!
;-)
There's a good girl!
:-)
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Subject: Re: TO RETURN TO..The Keeping of His Commandments--Praise God!
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>
>"Whazit Tooyah" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Andrew" <andrew.321remov@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:lCSxg.437$0e5.233@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >
>> > "You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will
>> > not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday.
The
>> > Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day
>> > which we [Roman Catholics] never sanctify"
>> >
>> > James
Cardinal
>> > Gibbons
>> > Faith of
Our
>> > Fathers, p.111
>>
>> Correct, but very few still view Sunday as being sacred. It is just a
day
>> of the week just like the other six. The only difference is that most
>> Christians meet together in their individual churches on Sunday.
Nobody
>> keeps it, very few even suggest keeping Sunday in any legalized form.
>> The question is not whether Sunday is sacred, the question is, is any
day
>> sacred in the Christian era. As I studied the subject, I came to the
>> conclusion that Romans 14:5 meant just exactly what it says. "One
person
>> regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each
>person
>> must be fully convinced in his own mind." Likewise I believe Romans
14:10
>> means what it says. "But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you
again,
>> why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand
before
>> the judgment seat of God." I believe that if Paul meant feast day or
>> holiday in verse five he would have used the word that means feast day
or
>> holiday, not the one he used which means 'day of the week.'
>
>No specific day is sacred ... but there are many im****tant events that
>deserve to be get focus, and that is why we celebrate Christmas, Easter,
>etc. It's not unreasonable for Christians to gather as a group
regularly,
>and to choose the most glorious event in Christian theology to celebrate
>when doing so. A logical day to do this would be the most regular
>anniversary of that event - the weekly one. Christians set a certain
day
>apart for wor****p, as a community, over and above smaller groups or
>individials wor****pping throughout the week. In that sense, the day is
made
>sacred (sanctified, set apart) primarily by the actions of the
Christians
>... not primarily by God.
Agreed. However, there is an historical record where a "church"
DECREED that Sunday would be the "official day of wor****p."
On whose authority? Certainly not God's!
I have even read MANY QUOTES from this supposed "authority" as if
"that settles it."
The Bible settled it, and no "human authority" is required or even
requested.
john w
That is described in Rom 14:6 - "He that
>regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not
the
>day, to the Lord he doth not regard it."
>
>> > But the holy, moral and pure commandments that our Creator gave to
>> > mankind at Sinai in the Decalogue, were NEVER CHANGED. God is
>> > now calling us TO RETURN TO..the keeping of His commandments
>> > through the power and grace of our Lord Jesus Christ.
>> >
>> >
>> > "The Protestant claiming the Bible to be the only guide of faith,
has
>> > no warrant for observing Sunday.
Lie! And from one who does not know his Bible!
ANOTHER PROOF that Roman Catholics are NOT Bible students!
Sunday Christian wor****p is recorded MULTIPLE times in scripture!
From the gospel of John through Acts and into the epistles.
In this matter the Seventh-day
>> > Adventist is the only consistent Protestant."
>> >
>> > The Catholic
>Universe
>> > Bulletin
>> > August 14, 1942,
>page
>> > 4
>>
>> Spoken by one who does not know his Bible very well and/or by one who
is a
>> firm believer in covenant theology, i.e. the promises and covenants
given
>to
>> Israel now belong to the church.
>
>The Pope and I both agree with you on that. Andrew is mistaken. He
quotes
>individual Catholics and pretends what they say is official Catholic
>teaching.
>
>Imagine if we did that with Adventism. Quoting their prophetess is
>embarrassing enough for them.
>
>God bless,
>Stephen
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:25:01 GMT, "Whazit Tooyah" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
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>
>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 04:16:35 GMT, "Whazit Tooyah" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>>
>>>"Andrew" <andrew.321remov@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> "You may read the Bible from Genesis to Revelation, and you will
>>>> not find a single line authorizing the sanctification of Sunday.
The
>>>> Scriptures enforce the religious observance of Saturday, a day
>>>> which we [Roman Catholics] never sanctify"
>>>>
>>>> James
Cardinal
>>>> Gibbons
>>>> Faith of
Our
>>>> Fathers, p.111
>>>
>>>Correct, but very few still view Sunday as being sacred. It is just a
day
>>>of the week just like the other six. The only difference is that most
>>>Christians meet together in their individual churches on Sunday.
Nobody
>>>keeps it, very few even suggest keeping Sunday in any legalized form.
>>>The question is not whether Sunday is sacred, the question is, is any
day
>>>sacred in the Christian era. As I studied the subject, I came to the
>>>conclusion that Romans 14:5 meant just exactly what it says. "One
person
>>>regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each
>>>person
>>>must be fully convinced in his own mind." Likewise I believe Romans
14:10
>>>means what it says. "But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you
again,
>>>why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand
before
>>>the judgment seat of God." I believe that if Paul meant feast day or
>>>holiday in verse five he would have used the word that means feast day
or
>>>holiday, not the one he used which means 'day of the week.'
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But the holy, moral and pure commandments that our Creator gave to
>>>> mankind at Sinai in the Decalogue, were NEVER CHANGED. God is
>>>> now calling us TO RETURN TO..the keeping of His commandments
>>>> through the power and grace of our Lord Jesus Christ.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "The Protestant claiming the Bible to be the only guide of faith,
has
>>>> no warrant for observing Sunday. In this matter the Seventh-day
>>>> Adventist is the only consistent Protestant."
>>>>
>>>> The Catholic
>>>> Universe
>>>> Bulletin
>>>> August 14, 1942,
>>>> page
>>>> 4
>>>
>>>Spoken by one who does not know his Bible very well and/or by one who
is a
>>>firm believer in covenant theology, i.e. the promises and covenants
given
>>>to
>>>Israel now belong to the church.
>>
>>
>> Thanks, WT, for an enlightening post!
>>
>> You have answered SEVERAL questions for me!
>>
>> "Well done, good and faithful servant!"
>>
>> The ONLY reason *I* can find in scripture for wor****pping on Sunday is
>> that is the day the apostles/disciples evidently chose to commemorate
>> the Sunday morning Resurrection.
>>
>> Since there was NO COMMANDMENT from Jesus to honor a particular day,
>> the apostles felt totally free to pick one for themselves.
>>
>> And they chose Sunday.
>>
>> It is interesting AND informative that, after the apostles/disciples
>> chose to honor Christ by Sunday wor****p, God Himself (in the form of
>> Jesus and then the Holy Spirit) endorsed their choice of Sunday!
>>
>> Can you, WT, answer me, why I say that God (Jesus and the Holy Spirit)
>> approved and endorsed Sunday wor****p?
>
>Actually, God i.e. the Trinity endorses seven days a week wor****p.
Agreed! I did not mean to suggest that we are to wor****p ONLY on
Sunday! However, "point taken."
Well done AGAIN! And you continue to teach me!
I like that! You must have had a good foundation!
:-)
As did I!
To
>answer your question, resurrection was on a Sunday, all of the post
>resurrection appearances of Jesus where the day is recorded are on
Sunday,
Hmmmm.... Don't know that I agree with THAT one! (minor point).
You have now given me reason to study THAT further!
:-)
(a healthy, friendly shake of the head (( "I think you're wrong about
that")) is very nice, and an excellent reason to "dig a little
deeper.")
However, the point that Jesus DID make a number of Sunday
post-Resurrection appearances was my point.
>The Holy Spirit was given to the general population of the church on a
>Sunday.
My point was that the Holy Spirit came and bestowed the Sign Gifts
DURING a Sunday morning Christian Church service. (not an evangelical
outreach at the Temple, or an evangelical outreach at the market). He
came and gave the Sign Gifts during a Christian Church service. One of
the first recorded.
If God had NOT approved of the first Christians meeting for Christian
services on Sunday, He would HARDLY have BLESSED them with the Sign
Gifts!~
They would have received a sound REBUKE instead!
There are two apparent church meetings occurring on Sunday recorded
>in the Bible, one in Acts, the other in 1 Corinthians.
There you go! You're on the right track, sort of!
What I was trying to point out to you (something I only recently
discovered while deep in meditation and Bible study, pleading "teach
me something NEW!!" )
The very first RECORDED Sunday Christian wor****p occurred the very
night of the Sunday resurrection! The apostles/disciples were
cowering in fear in the upper room, behind locked (probably barred)
doors, shuttered windows. They were likely praying quietly, meeting
quietly, wor****pping quietly, sharing quietly, eating quietly,
conducting an impromptu-- but VERY Christian service--
He was suddenly there, in their midst. Did he rebuke them for this
SUNDAY Christian wor****p meeting? He did not! He JOINED them!
Thereby, our Risen Lord actually ATTENDED the first RECORDED Sunday
Christian service. (and endorsed it) The same passage (John)
reflects that a week later (presumably the following Sunday), at a
Sunday Christian service Thomas attended (he had been absent the
Sunday evening past), Jesus AGAIN interrupted their Sunday evening
Christian wor****p service. Not to rebuke them, but to confront Thomas,
and not in an unkind way!
Jesus Himself, and later, the Holy Spirit, endorsed Sunday Christian
wor****p, if only we are open to RECEIVING that truth. However, men's
traditions blind too many, and they only read what they choose to
read. They only perceive that which they choose to perceive.
The presence of God
>is very apparent in many churches today on Sunday. (The latter point
would
>apply to any spirit filled church meeting on any day of the week)
Again, we are in agreement. My point was that there ARE Sunday
Christian services in the Bible, and they are EVEN found in one of the
gospels. If you know what you are reading, the Bible is NOT "silent"
on the issue.
God bless!
john w
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Subject: Re: Whats the Purpose of my Life?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:35:08 -0700
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:20:43 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>john w wrote:
> >>
>>> [Snip verses]
>>>
> >
>> Truth is OFTEN "situational".
>>
>> If you are having a HORRIBLE day (the wife left you, the engine blew
>> up, the house burned down, and your 16 year old just got busted for
>> selling 5 pounds of cocaine to an undercover narc),
>>
>> then you go on a job interview, and the prospective employer asks,
>> "How are YOU today?"
>>
>> Do you TRULY think he/she wants to hear you gripe for 10 minutes about
>> your HORRIBLE life?
>
>He was not asked to speak for ten minutes.
>
>"How are YOU today?"
>
>"Not to good but thanks for asking." would be perfectly acceptable.
Wrong form. S/b "Not too (two "o"s) good, but thanks for asking."
(and you forgot the comma.)
And your suggestion is NOT "perfectly acceptable", as the prospective
employer is not remotely interested in your personal woes.
Live a few more years, mature a little more (or a LOT more in your
case) and then we might take up the topic again.
Maybe not!
>
>"You should have asked me this yesterday when I was great, but today's
been
>a bad one."
>
Having been in the position of the employer interviewing on many an
occasion, had I been the employer, that would have been the end of
your interview.
>etc.
>
>All honest and in no need of "situational" honesty.
>
>"Situational" honesty tends to lead to problems.
only for the dull of mind (that's you)
MOST people (with the exception of close friends and family) are not
REMOTELY interested in your grimmer details. "How are you?" is NOT a
SINCERE query. It is merely a greeting equivalent to "Hi!"
john w
>
>>
>> The
>
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Subject: Re: Whats the Purpose of my Life?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:31:00 -0700
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:56:04 GMT, Bible Bob <biblebob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
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article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 04:11:56 -0700, john w <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>x-no-archive: yes
>>On 26 Jul 2006 22:29:13 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>>article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>>author
>>>Bible John wrote:
>>>> Today I was asked this question in a job interview. While I
understand the
>>>> law...
>>>
>>>Among the many things that Wolf does *not* understand is the law.
>>>
>>>> ...and understand that employers do not want to hear about my
religious
>>>> views. But I will respond to the question here.
>>>>
>>>> This is the Purpose of CERM and the purpose of my life.
>>>
>>>[Snip verses]
>>>
>>>> Te gospel of Jesus Christ is the salvation that mankind needs to
hear and
>>>> accept or be doomed to Hell. People need a savior and people need
the gospel
>>>> being boldly taught to them.
>>>>
>>>> The mission of CERM is to boldly preach and teach the word and
provide
>>>> resources for Christians.
>>>
>>>Okay, I have to admit to some curiousity. If this is the "purpose"
>>>that Wolf believes he should fulfill, and if he was asked by a
>>>potential employer and told that employer something else, that's
lying,
>>>isn't it...?
>>
>>
>>Truth is OFTEN "situational".
>
>"Situational truth." Ain't that a revelation.
I believe I explained my point QUITE adequately. And I notice with
some amusement that-- rather than READING my accompanying explanation
of my point-- you childishly, and dishonestly (as is your habit), cut
me off to expound irrelevantly yet again.
The brightest light bulb on the Christmas tree, you ain't! Not even
close!
but, you knew that!
;-)
>>
>>If you are having a HORRIBLE day (the wife left you, the engine blew
>>up, the house burned down, and your 16 year old just got busted for
>>selling 5 pounds of cocaine to an undercover narc),
>>
>>then you go on a job interview, and the prospective employer asks,
>>"How are YOU today?"
>>
>>Do you TRULY think he/she wants to hear you gripe for 10 minutes about
>>your HORRIBLE life?
>>
>>The prospective employer has NOT asked you a SINCERE question about
>>how your day has been. The prospective employer has merely GREETED
>>you.
>>
>>BJ's prospective employer has asked-- in his / her own way -- "what
>>can WE expect from you for the next 5 years should we hire you?"
>>
>>That does NOT mean " ON YOUR TIME." That DOES mean, "during the 8 - 12
>>hours per day we pay you for!"
>>
>>BJ is saying that he gave a "situation-appropriate" answer.
>>
>>And his reply is FAR more MATURE and thoughtful than your snipe!
>>
>>Grow up!
>>
>
>
>.....
>BB
>http://www.biblebob.net
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Subject: Re: Whats the Purpose of my Life?
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:28:32 -0700
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On 27 Jul 2006 06:16:30 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On 26 Jul 2006 22:29:13 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>> >Bible John wrote:
>> >> Today I was asked this question in a job interview. While I
understand the
>> >> law...
>> >
>> >Among the many things that Wolf does *not* understand is the law.
>> >
>> >> ...and understand that employers do not want to hear about my
religious
>> >> views. But I will respond to the question here.
>> >>
>> >> This is the Purpose of CERM and the purpose of my life.
>> >
>> >[Snip verses]
>> >
>> >> Te gospel of Jesus Christ is the salvation that mankind needs to
hear and
>> >> accept or be doomed to Hell. People need a savior and people need
the gospel
>> >> being boldly taught to them.
>> >>
>> >> The mission of CERM is to boldly preach and teach the word and
provide
>> >> resources for Christians.
>> >
>> >Okay, I have to admit to some curiousity. If this is the "purpose"
>> >that Wolf believes he should fulfill, and if he was asked by a
>> >potential employer and told that employer something else, that's
lying,
>> >isn't it...?
>>
>> Truth is OFTEN "situational".
>>
>> If you are having a HORRIBLE day (the wife left you, the engine blew
>> up, the house burned down, and your 16 year old just got busted for
>> selling 5 pounds of cocaine to an undercover narc),
>>
>> then you go on a job interview, and the prospective employer asks,
>> "How are YOU today?"
>>
>> Do you TRULY think he/she wants to hear you gripe for 10 minutes about
>> your HORRIBLE life?
>>
>> The prospective employer has NOT asked you a SINCERE question about
>> how your day has been. The prospective employer has merely GREETED
>> you.
>
>As usual, Weatherly seems to be clueless about the basics
You continue to twist the facts to suit you, and, today, I'm simply
not going to bother to stroke your ego with a blow-by-blow retort to
your infantile thumb-sucking, diaper-filling.
You SHRIEK for attention as you wet your diaper!
Fine!
You've had your allotted attention!
Now shriek "mommy!" and she may stick her teat in your mouth, if
you're lucky!
john w
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:53:24 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:21:05 -0700, IKnowHim@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(IKnowHimDoYou- A.)
>wrote:
>
>>RCC Examined 20
>>
>>These studies have been taken in part from "Christian Equippers
>>International" web site at:
>>
>>www.bibleb.com/CATHINFO.HTM
>>
>>Purgatory 2
>>
>>This frightening doctrine of "purgatory" cannot find a single verse in
the
>>Bible to sup****t it. Rome has had to rely on ingenious twistings fo
the
>>Scriptures to defend this horrible invention, along with an isolated
>>passage from the apocryphal book II Maccabees (12:39-45).
>
>2 Maccabees (KJV)
>
>[39] And upon the day following, as the use had been, Judas and his
company came
>to take up the bodies of them that were slain, and to bury them with
their
>kinsmen in their fathers' graves.
AGAIN, duke, you Roman STOOGE, this is not in the Bible.
;-)
but, you knew that!
>[40] Now under the coats of every one that was slain they found things
>consecrated to the idols of the Jamnites, which is forbidden the Jews by
the
>law. Then every man saw that this was the cause wherefore they were
slain.
>[41] All men therefore praising the Lord, the righteous Judge, who had
opened
>the things that were hid,
>[42] Betook themselves unto prayer, and besought him that the sin
committed
>might wholly be put out of remembrance. Besides, that noble Judas
exhorted the
>people to keep themselves from sin, forsomuch as they saw before their
eyes the
>things that came to pass for the sins of those that were slain.
>[43] And when he had made a gathering throughout the company to the sum
of two
>thousand drachms of silver, he sent it to Jerusalem to offer a sin
offering,
>doing therein very well and honestly, in that he was mindful of the
>resurrection:
>[44] For if he had not hoped that they that were slain should have risen
again,
>it had been superfluous and vain to pray for the dead.
>
>See, even the Hebrews believed in some sort of redemption after death.
It comes
>from that part of Holy Scripture that you protest_ants removed from the
bible
>because you don't like what the Hebrews said.
>
>>The concept of purgatorial sufferings after death challanges the very
work
>>of Christ on our behalf. The Bible declares that "Christ himself...had
>>died once for our sins" (I Peter 3:18 J.B.V.). There is no more need
for
>>further sufferings in an invented "purgatory". To demand further
>>suffering and sacrifice is to deny that Christ's sacrifice was
sufficient
>>the first time!
>
>Well, according to the apostles, you and I still have a part to play and
that
>there is truly something more in suffering than Christ's afflictions.
>
>Why do you keep pretending you bible doesn't matter..
>
>Colossians 1:24 (New International Version)
>Paul's Labor for the Church
> 24Now I rejoice in what was suffered for you, and I fill up in my flesh
what is
>still lacking in regard to Christ's afflictions, for the sake of his
body, which
>is the church.
>
>
>duke, American-American
>*****
>"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>Pope Paul VI
>*****
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<witchypoo@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>
>"john w" <wjohn1134@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:rhfhc2p237pqndnsufnmebfm9mhp9mji4p@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On 26 Jul 2006 22:26:37 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>>>john w wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 04:32:00 GMT, Bible Bob <biblebob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of
>>>> this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent
of
>>>> the author
>>>> >On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:18:39 -0700, "Bible John"
>>>> ><john.doggett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>This argument is a debate between two professing christians. You
are
>>>> >>not a
>>>> >>professing christian. Davey is a professing christian and holds to
the
>>>> >>essential tenants of the faith, which you reject, and it will lead
to
>>>> >>your
>>>> >>doom in the Lake of Fire.
>>>> >>
>>>> >LOL! Sure it is. Okay, Davey is a Christian; who is the other
>>>> >Christian if not me. Davey and I are the only two Real True
>>>> >Christians.
>>>>
>>>> BB, why do you continue to attempt to interject yourself into
>>>> discussions that do not concern you?
>>>
>>>Well, apparently, even though Weatherly did graduate with a [chuckle]
>>>liberal arts degree from a second-rate college,
>>
>> tsk tsk. jealousy!
>
>Tsk, tsk. Wishful thinking.
>
>BTW, jealousy should have been capitalized.
Elaine! Elaine! Elaine!
;-)
BTW, genius! ;-)
If you're going to "correct my grammar", get it right.
When you referred to my non-capitalized word, you forgot the quotes.
You should have said, "BTW, "jealousy: should have been capitalized."
Which is wrong anyway! The word "jealousy" is not a SENTENCE
(something that NORMALLY requires capitalization.)
"jealousy" in the above instance is called a "fragment", and as a
writer (poetic license and all), I can do with it as I wish, including
telling YOU "bend over."
;-)
(and, again, sweetums! You are not required to read my posts)
;-)
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> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
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author
>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 04:32:00 GMT, Bible Bob <biblebob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of
>> this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
>> the author
>> >On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 21:18:39 -0700, "Bible John"
>> ><john.doggett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >
>> >>This argument is a debate between two professing christians. You are
not a
>> >>professing christian. Davey is a professing christian and holds to
the
>> >>essential tenants of the faith, which you reject, and it will lead
to your
>> >>doom in the Lake of Fire.
>> >>
>> >LOL! Sure it is. Okay, Davey is a Christian; who is the other
>> >Christian if not me. Davey and I are the only two Real True
>> >Christians.
>>
>> BB, why do you continue to attempt to interject yourself into
>> discussions that do not concern you?
>
>Well, apparently, even though Weatherly did graduate with a [chuckle]
>liberal arts degree from a second-rate college,
tsk tsk. jealousy!
;-)
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On 26 Jul 2006 22:52:53 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
author
>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On 26 Jul 2006 18:30:26 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
>> article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of the
>> author
>> >john w wrote:
>> >> x-no-archive: yes
>> >> On 25 Jul 2006 20:45:00 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of
>> >> this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent
of
>> >> the author
>> >> >john w wrote:
>> >> >> x-no-archive: yes
>> >> >> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 22:38:25 -0700, "Bible John"
>> >> >> <john.doggett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> >> copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion
of
>> >> >> this article may be used elsewhere without express written
consent of
>> >> >> the author
>> >> >> >"Bible Bob" <biblebob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:a87bc2libdt7fuq5u48ee8ismsj0npmpda@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You don't get to decide who is saved. God does.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Someone who rejects Jesus Christ (as you do) is not saved.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Read the bible.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> BJ, stop typing "Bible" lower case!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It is insulting, and it is blasphemous!
>> >> >
>> >> >I own seven translations of the Bible, and I've never seen any
>> >> >Scripture that claims that it is "blasphemous" to refer to the
Bible
>> >> >using a lower case "b." I'd ask Weatherly to show us, but we all
know
>> >> >what kind of reaction *that* would get...
>> >>
>> >> I could / would answer that.
>> >
>> >...Weatherly boasts, and then *doesn't* answer it...
>> >
>> >> However, "we all know" that you really didn't expect or
>> >> want an answer, now did you?
>> >
>> >Weatherly gets it half right. If I didn't *want* to see at least an
>> >attempt at an answer, I wouldn't bother to type the question. That I
>> >didn't expect to see an answer is certainly correct, and Weatherly,
in
>> >this message fulfilled my expectations.
>> >
>> >> You truly don't want answers, since you prefer to supply
>> >> them all yourself, don't you!
>> >
>> >There goes hypocritical Weatherly, presuming to read minds, again.
>>
>> Not at all, ****forbrains.
>
>Feel the love.
>
>> I merely observe and remark on your OBVIOUS
>> behavior/misbehavior.
>
>No, Weatherly decided my motive and declared it as such, without my
>having said anything on the matter (though I have responded to similar
>claims before and refuted them). So Weatherly is not only a hypocrite,
>he's a liar, as well.
>
>But we knew that.
>
>> Which AGAIN makes you the WORST of pathological liars. (no news
>> there)
>
>As usualy, Weatherly whimpers about lies, but can't sup****t nor provide
>any evidence for a single lie, and countering and refuting claims that
>he has made is not lying, by any definition.
>
>> You have REPEATEDLY "asked me questions" (as you have done to others),
>> and then "supplied the answers" yourself.
>
>I have asked questions, and when answers weren't forthcoming, I provide
>my own commentary on the matter. That is quite different from what
>Weatherly represents. That he doesn't understand that is hardly my
>problem.
>
>> >> However, for the benefit of the group (this HAS been asked and
>> >> answered any number of times, but since you don't bother to follow
the
>> >> threads (you're more of a harasser)...
>> >
>> >Actually, I follow what threads that I can or care to,
>>
>> Like I said, ****forbrains...
>
>Feel the love.
You receive what you so love to give!
;-)
>
>> ...you don't READ my posts...
>
>Actually, I do read Weatherly's posts.
liar!
See my commentary, posted
>elsewhere this evening, for more on that.
Why bother? It'll be nothing more or less than your self-im****tant,
ego-inflated lies.
>
>> ...you just jump in when you find it amuses you and make
>> utterly asinine remarks!
>
>No, I challenge Weatherly's asinine remarks,
Rubbish! There aren't any!
his lies,
Liar! You are the liar here, ****forbrains!
his hypocrisies,
>and his whimperings.
Projecting yet again!
And why? Well, I've answered that question a few
>times.
smirk.
Sure you have!
>
>> True infantile behavior (thinking you're cute/ you're not)
>
>There goes Weatherly, again, presuming to tell others what I think.
chuckle. You do it! I'm just following your example.
****forbrains!
john w
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On 26 Jul 2006 22:34:57 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
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>john w wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On 25 Jul 2006 22:00:18 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion of
>> this article may be used elsewhere without express written consent of
>> the author
>> >Bible Bob wrote:
>> >> On 25 Jul 2006 20:45:00 -0700, "Dave" <horndw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >john w wrote:
>> >> >> x-no-archive: yes
>> >> >> On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 22:38:25 -0700, "Bible John"
>> >> >> <john.doggett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >> >> copyright 2006 John Weatherly; all rights reserved; no ****tion
of
>> >> >> this article may be used elsewhere without express written
consent of
>> >> >> the author
>> >> >> >"Bible Bob" <biblebob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:a87bc2libdt7fuq5u48ee8ismsj0npmpda@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You don't get to decide who is saved. God does.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Someone who rejects Jesus Christ (as you do) is not saved.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Read the bible.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> BJ, stop typing "Bible" lower case!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It is insulting, and it is blasphemous!
>> >> >
>> >> >I own seven translations of the Bible, and I've never seen any
>> >> >Scripture that claims that it is "blasphemous" to refer to the
Bible
>> >> >using a lower case "b." I'd ask Weatherly to show us, but we all
know
>> >> >what kind of reaction *that* would get...
>> >>
>> >> Dave,
>> >>
>> >> It's not speaking evil of God. But it is annoying that Wolf
>> >> shows deliberate contempt and disrespect.
>> >
>> >There's quite a difference between "deliberate contempt and
disrespect"
>> >and blasphemy. The challenge was for Weatherly to show cause to call
>> >it blasphemy.
>>
>> Since you hold no claim of any belief in either God or Christianity or
>> the Bible, I AGAIN fail to see that you are qualified to distinguish
>> between the two.
>
>Which, of course, is Weatherly's typical excuse for his cowardly
>retreat from the subject. However, as explained many times, a lack of
>belief in any given religious system does not preclude a person from
>having a good working knowledge of it or even from possessing expertise
>in the subject.
>
>> Of course, your utter ignorance hasn't stopped you from opening your
>> mouth.
>
>And Weatherly's utter (and ill-advised) arrogance
smirk.
speaking of arrogance.
you are the king.
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