>You clearly said the way that Jesus was baptized. He was washed in the
water
>and the Holy Spirit subsequently descended.
He was immersed. NOWHERE does the text say "he was washed in the
water."
AGAIN, making YOU, duke, a God-damned liar!
>
>Are you too good to follow in the steps of Christ.
>
>> In other words, "duke", NO HARM WHATEVER would come to YOU if you
>>went to the local Baptist church on Sunday and asked to be immersed as
>>a believing Christian.
>
>Yet I've already been Christened.
You have NOT been immersed as Jesus was as an ADULT,
so AGAIN,
Duke, you are a God-damned liar!
john w
>
>> You REFUSE to do that because it's not "Rome's way."
>
>Actually, we Christ_en infants very quickly. Jesus said it is necessary
to see
>the kingdom of God.
>
>> Even if there was a SUGGESTION that Jesus had said, "do this", I'd
>>make every effort to do it.
>
>He did.
>
>> You don't "make every effort." Anything ROME says you don't have to
>>do, you refuse to do.
>> Anything ROME demands, you comply with!
>> You don't follow God! You follow Rome!
>
>Rome points out what is in scripture.
>
>>>> God COMMANDED "NO IDOLS!"
>>>> Yet you have erected thousands of idols in your "churches."
>>>Nope, there are NO idols in Catholic Chruches.
>> You are a LIAR!
>
>No, you are a blind fool. RC's don't wor****p idols.
>
>> I've been in half-a-dozen Catholic churches, and there were idols in
>>each one!
>
>Wrong, not so much as one figurine that was or is wor****pped.
>
>> Meaning simply that, even with clear black-and-white teaching right
>>out of the Bible, you can't figure it out!
>> That's called "spiritual blindness".
>> And we truly don't need to waste my time with this rehash for the
>>hundredth time!
>> You are God's problem, not mine!
>
>I'm not worried. We Catholics follow the words of Christ. Not so you
>protest_ers.
>
>
>duke, American-American
>*****
>"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>Pope Paul VI
>*****
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Subject: Re: jw bleeting - What Does the Bible Reveal About the Trinity?
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> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:55:44 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>>>>The demand that they brear unwanted children - that in many
countries end
>>>>>up living on trash heaps, being prey for pedophiles, and being
killed by
>>>>>death squads. They bear those children in many cases at the expense
of
>>>>>the mothers health or even life
>
>>>> They DEMAND that India and Pakistan have NO birth control.
>
>>>Are you sup****ting the butchering of one's own unborn for one's own
comfort and
>>>convenience, jw?
>
>> My original comment that was taken out of context,
>> "duke", was that she opposed allowing Pakistan and India to have
>>BIRTH CONTROL.
>
>Question - does God condone artificial birth control?
Yes. Absolutely.
I find NO prohibitions on birth control in the Bible.
And where God is SILENT (as in this case), men are NOT allowed to
come along behind and fill in the blanks with man-made laws.
MAN-MADE laws!
The entire position of the RCC OPPOSED to birth control is that they
oppose any *** that does not eventuate in pregnancy.
They flatly REJECT *** for the sake of PLEASURE.
That is unscriptural. The Song of Solomon is FULL of references to
Solomon and his wife having *** for the sake of PLEASURE.
Paul said that husbands and wives did not have the right to deprive
each other of ***ual PLEASURE.
It's Rome that made *** for pleasure DIRTY and SINFUL except between
husband and wife for PROCREATION.
Such a concept is NOT found in the Bible!
>
>>No IUDs, no contraceptive pills, no condoms.
>> I never mentioned "abortion." YOU are the person who first mentioned
>>abortion.
>
>>There ARE other methods of population control besides ABORTION.
>>Or were you unaware of that as well?
>
>>Theresa OPPOSED India and Pakistan having ANY form of BIRTH CONTROL
>>WHATEVER!
>
>She's professing that artificial birth control is a sin in the eyes of
God.
I found no scripture, and I find no scripture that sup****ts her
view. Since there was no artificial birth control (no birth control
PERIOD) in the days when scripture was written,
your "point" is absurd.
>
>>Her preference was for the babies to be born and then STARVE TO DEATH!
>
>Ask God.
When the information is in the BIBLE, we don't need to ask God.
>
>
>duke, American-American
>*****
>"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>Pope Paul VI
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christianity,alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Tammy Faye wasted away
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:20:46 -0700
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wrote:
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>On 2007-07-23 23:58:51 +0100, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:57:59 +0100, Andrew <thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> On 2007-07-23 18:35:38 +0100, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>>>
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:46:25 +0100, Andrew
<thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> On 2007-07-23 16:58:14 +0100, "Ralph" <mmman_90@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:9kl8a35441nprfdn6go7uc1tq2qi734k98@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:54:21 -0000, Charlene
>>>>>>> <charlene.vickers@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 8:46 pm, "Brian F. Nevercene"
>>>>>>>> <bfneverc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I'm just trying to figure out how the death of Tammy Faye
(Bakker)
>>>>>>>>> Messner fits into the fundamentalist Christian routine. I mean,
>>>>>>>>> from what they say, God gives rewards and punishment on earth.
For
>>>>>>>>> example, according to fundamentalist spokesmen, 9 11 was
>>>>>>>>> punishment from God. He allowed it to happen as a reminder to
>>>>>>>>> America it was sinning.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Previously, according to the spokesmen, God went a step
further,
>>>>>>>>> not just allowing AIDS to happen, but creating it to punish
people
>>>>>>>>> for the sin of homo***uality. All through history, plagues,
>>>>>>>>> famines, floods, and natural disasters were all the work of the
>>>>>>>>> Lord, punishment or a message. Or so said those qualified to
>>>>>>>>> interpret His will in the chaos of events.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't think Tammy Faye was like that. In fact, I have a
feeling many
>>>>>>>> fundamentalists will claim Tammy Faye was punished for being
more
>>>>>>>> accepting than them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think you are overlooking some very im****tant FACTS that too
many
>>>>>>> would just as soon brush under the carpet!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. she was a liar, a cheat, and a thief. She and hubby Jimmy
bilked
>>>>>>> their loyal listeners out of MILLIONS! My mother was one they
bilked!
>>>>>>> Now look up in your Bible what God has to say about thieves.
>>>>>>> Thieves don't go to heaven.
>>>>>>> She was a liar. The Bible says that liars don't go to heaven.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. The Bible says that the Christian woman is to be MODEST. Yet
Tammy
>>>>>>> Faye BRAGGED about all the makeup she CAKED on.
>>>>>>> All that makeup meant ONE thing: she was the victim of EXTREME
>>>>>>> self-loathing. How God created her to look wasn't good enough!
All
>>>>>>> that makeup merely said that she believed she needed to improve
on how
>>>>>>> her Creator created her!
>>>>>>> Several Christian elders/leaders spoke to her about her LAVISH
>>>>>>> makeup and clothes. She could not have cared less.
>>>>>>> She didn't know the Bible (which Christians are required to
know),
>>>>>>> so she was totally unaware of God's expectations.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> She made her bed with her FLAGRANT apostasies; now she gets to
>>>>>>> sleep in that bed!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Think about it: She PRIDED herself on her painted, made up
>>>>>>> appearance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How she looked after being EATEN alive by cancer was WAY beyond
what
>>>>>>> any makeup could cover!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are one hell of a Christian John, you're the reason I left
Christianity.
>>>>>> Does the bible say anything about those who drive others out of
the faith?
>>>>>
>>>>> No - but I seem to remember the phrase "Judge not, lest ye be
judged".
>>>>> Oh - and wasn't there a "Let him who is without sin cast the first
>>>>> stone"? It's because of those that I stay with the faith - not the
>>>>> Johns of this world.
>>>>
>>>> So, if I understand you correctly, every time your pastor (presuming
>>>> you go to church) points at you and mentions a sin you need to
confess
>>>> (and you're guilty as hell, and you know it), you get up and change
>>>> churches!
>>>
>>> My pastor (and yes I do) would not point at me. He would gently take
me
>>> aside and mention it. That's the Christian thing to do. And no, I
>>> wouldn't change churches for exactly that reason.
>>
>> Good! I am glad to hear it! I have been in churches in which the
>> pastor would point, and I've been in churches in which the pastor or
>> an elder would take you aside and ask if there's any way they can help
>> you through your problem.
>>
>> I like the 2nd approach myself.
>>
>> And last time I got taken aside, my wife (ex-) had just falsely
>> accused me of abusing her and our child (3 at the time).
>>
>> The elders believed her without even asking me, and after I had
>> repeatedly explained to no avail, I left that church.
>>
>> I got tired after some 6 months of having heads turn and people
>> whisper and point every time I walked in.
>>
>> So I walked out.
>
>These things happen. Churches are communities like any other - made up
>of fallible human beings. Sometimes they get things wrong even when
>they're trying to get things right.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am in this world to point to the sins in the world for those who
>>>> have not noticed.
>>>
>>> And yours?
>>
>> This wasn't about "my sins."
>>
>> Someone commented on Tammy Faye, and I gave my opinion that the past
>> few years, we've witnessed the day-by-day judgment of God against
>> Tammy Faye.
>>
>> What are they? Are you going to detail them all for us?
>>
>> I'm sure others will help you with that.
>
>I'm really not all that interested.
"Um hm."
I just thought that as you were
>ready to catalogue somebody else's failings you might want to do the
>same with your own.
I catalogued my reasons for not eulogizing Tammy Faye. That's my
right. "To speak my peace."
I look at my own failings every single day.
Thankfully, when I look at me, I see more stuff that I like-- more
stuff that God likes-- than I see stuff I / He doesn't like.
Rather than seeing my glass half empty...
>
>>
>> I detail my sins to God.
>>
>> When you can forgive my every sin, I'll give you the whole list.
>
>As I say, I'm really not interested. I've got far too many of my own to
>worry about without getting riled up about somebody else's.
There you go! I had no intent on attacking Tammy Faye. I stepped in
when other who don't know what they're talking about eulogized her in
a similar manner to how "Sister Theresa" ("Mother Theresa") was
eulogized by those who didn't understand the terrible, HORRIBLE
atrocities Theresa committed against the poor and the vulnerable!
I didn't put up with the phony eulogies of Theresa either.
Do bear in
>mind, though, that none of us knows who has repented of their sins and
>who has not.
I can only speak for me, and I'm the only one I speak for.
HOWEVEVER, I listened to Tammy Faye's last press conference last
week, and continued to see her arrogant and apostate.
She made a joke about loving her makeup so much she DEMANDED the RIGHT
to wear it into surgery!
If that's not VANITY, what is vanity?
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is truly no reason for you to critique me.
>>>>
>>>> You are critiquing one of God's servants!
>>>
>>> Would you like me to pass you a mirror?
>>
>> ???? How's about you spend a good month or two looking into it
>> yourself?
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I will face Him some day; you will, too!
>>>
>>> Oh I know. And I have no defence save Christ.
>>
>> I would say that myself.
>>
>> The same Christ who knows
>>> better than you - or I - my faults and the faults of others. But you
>>> know, that will do for me.
>>
>> Well, I learned a few years back to not expect ever other Christian
>> on the planet to walk the same walk I walk. Peter didn't walk in
>> Jesus' footsteps. Paul didn't walk in Peter's steps! Bart didn't
>> follow Paul's steps.
>>
>> There's no reason for me to seek your example or for you to seek mine.
>>
>> If either of us compares one to the other, we've taken our eyes off
>> Jesus.
>
>Indeed. Nor do I make such a comparison. I merely suggest that
>judgemental remarks about someone who has now gone to face God's
>judgement is, at best, pointless.
>
>>
>>>>
>>>> john w
>
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Subject: Re: Tammy Faye wasted away
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 18:05:29 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:28:59 GMT, "David Morgan \(MAMS\)"
<findme@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>
>"Doc" <terry2wa@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message ...
>
>> True enough, her public persona was
>> meretricious and low-brow; but for what she was, she was authentic.
>> I'd take her brand of insanity over that of Paris Hilton or Lindsay
>> Lohan any day of the week.
>
>Even my pastor, an 82 year old female, took a few moments in church
>this past Sunday to say the same thing - that somewhere inside Tammy
>Faye there was indeed a degree of sincerity, however misguided, in that
>she actually put her faith and actions in the hands of what she believed
in.
Oh? Did she really?
When the re****ters asked her last week if she had gotten a prognosis
from the mds, she said she didn't want to know how long she had; it
would hurt her faith!
I think a LOT of Christians would say that's not what we call
"Christianity."
And IF she was "true to her beliefs", kindly give me some REAL,
TANGENT information to base that view on.
>The audience was *very* quiet.
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Subject: Re: Tammy Faye wasted away
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:58:47 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:21:01 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On Jul 23, 9:00 am, Joe Bol <notr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> She was as guilty of fraud as her husband Jim Bakkkker. She begged
>> for money and the little old ladies sent their social-security checks
>> to them. Tammy was more concerned with helping Tammy than anyone
>> else. Don't kid yourself.
>
>So, you don't think she repented?
The dozen or more times she was confronted by the media (re****ters),
and I watched that CAREFULLY for any signs whatsoever of repentance,
she constantly denied having ANYTHING to do with the money....
besides SPENDING it!
And she DID admit more than once to spending it LAVISHLY.
I seem to recall (not sure) her admitting to having bought a
diamond-studded collar for her dog!
She bragged about all the beautiful houses, planes, luxury cruises.
I never heard one word of repentance.
And I listened for it.
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Subject: Re: Tammy Faye wasted away
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:50:26 -0700
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>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:47:58 -0400, "Ralph" <mmman_90@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>
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>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:44:52 -0400, "Ralph" <mmman_90@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>
>>>> Headers trimmed to delete the trolls.
>>>>
>>>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>>>news:6ul8a35kjcqre5ctmo1g0ucg784srnv12r@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:56:21 -0700, "Irv Hyatt"
<irvhyatt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Charlene" <charlene.vickers@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>>>news:1185159261.014715.183030@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 8:46 pm, "Brian F. Nevercene"
>>>>>>>> <bfneverc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I'm just trying to figure out how the death of Tammy Faye
(Bakker)
>>>>>>>>> Messner fits into the fundamentalist Christian routine. I mean,
>>>>>>>>> from what they say, God gives rewards and punishment on earth.
For
>>>>>>>>> example, according to fundamentalist spokesmen, 9 11 was
>>>>>>>>> punishment from God. He allowed it to happen as a reminder to
>>>>>>>>> America it was sinning.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Previously, according to the spokesmen, God went a step
further,
>>>>>>>>> not just allowing AIDS to happen, but creating it to punish
people
>>>>>>>>> for the sin of homo***uality. All through history, plagues,
>>>>>>>>> famines, floods, and natural disasters were all the work of the
>>>>>>>>> Lord, punishment or a message. Or so said those qualified to
>>>>>>>>> interpret His will in the chaos of events.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't think Tammy Faye was like that. In fact, I have a
feeling
>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>> fundamentalists will claim Tammy Faye was punished for being
more
>>>>>>>> accepting than them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Absolutely.
>>>>>>>She was more concerned with helping others and accepted all people
>>>>>>>into
>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>life.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She FLAGRANTLY broke God's laws! Without repentance!
>>>>>> She lied, she cheated MILLIONS out of their money, which she
STOLE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She did not practice Christian MODESTY, and BRAGGED about the
>>>>>> EXCESSIVE makeup she wore!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> God is not mocked!
>>>>>
>>>>>Of course he is John, he is mocked every day that you live.
>>>>
>>>> Well, thanks for your cheap shot! However, God loves me even if you
>>>> do not!
>>>>
>>>> Just As I AM
>>>> Without one plea
>>>> But that your blood
>>>> Was shed for me
>>>> And that you bid me
>>>> Come to Me!
>>>>
>>>> Oh, Lamb of God!
>>>> I come! I come!
>>>> Just As I Am!
>>>
>>>No cheap shot John, just an honest observation.
>>
>> You can't "honestly" observe me or comment about me from a few posts
>> on Usenet!
>>
>> If you believe you can, you are deluded.
>> (delusional)
>> john w
>
>John, I've read thousands of your posts and I've answered hundreds.
Then you are one of the pretenders who changes his "nick" frequently
to try to keep others (your wanna be victims) confused.
And we have nothing else to discuss.
john w
Yes, I
>can honestly say that every day you draw breath you are mocking your
god.
>
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wrote:
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>On Jul 23, 3:32 pm, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:21:46 -0700, "<~(Hey,
>> WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <ontheska...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>
>> >You're in a manic phase now, right?
>
>> You're pretending to be a psychiatrist again, right?
>
>Nope.
Yep! You're pretending to be a psychiatrist!
And I don't feel inclined or comfortable revealing intimate details
of my health to you.
john w
Answer the question, John.
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Please help - Weatherly still waiting for knock on the door
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:02:42 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:06:21 -0400, "~²ºº²~ galia ~²ºº³~"
<galia@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>>>No, Kelly is right! It is just your narcissistic disposition,
>>
>> Ah! The psychotic wanna be psychiatrist returns!
>>
>> People with little or no ego strength, no sense of self, no sense of
>> purpose, no real education, no real reading on their "reading lists!"
>>
>> Hi, psycho wanna be psychiatrist!
>>
>> john w
>>
>Typical response of someone unable to refute the argument in a mature
>manner!
smirk.
What makes you think I even bothered to read your puff?
I didn't.
You've been spouting so much psychotic HATE for the past 5 years, I
don't even bother to read your rhetoric anymore!
If I've read one of your comments, I've read 'em all!
john w
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Subject: Re: Tammy Faye wasted away
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:58:51 -0700
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wrote:
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>On 2007-07-23 18:35:38 +0100, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:46:25 +0100, Andrew <thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> On 2007-07-23 16:58:14 +0100, "Ralph" <mmman_90@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>> news:9kl8a35441nprfdn6go7uc1tq2qi734k98@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:54:21 -0000, Charlene
>>>>> <charlene.vickers@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>> On Jul 22, 8:46 pm, "Brian F. Nevercene"
>>>>>> <bfneverc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm just trying to figure out how the death of Tammy Faye
(Bakker)
>>>>>>> Messner fits into the fundamentalist Christian routine. I mean,
>>>>>>> from what they say, God gives rewards and punishment on earth.
For
>>>>>>> example, according to fundamentalist spokesmen, 9 11 was
>>>>>>> punishment from God. He allowed it to happen as a reminder to
>>>>>>> America it was sinning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Previously, according to the spokesmen, God went a step further,
>>>>>>> not just allowing AIDS to happen, but creating it to punish
people
>>>>>>> for the sin of homo***uality. All through history, plagues,
>>>>>>> famines, floods, and natural disasters were all the work of the
>>>>>>> Lord, punishment or a message. Or so said those qualified to
>>>>>>> interpret His will in the chaos of events.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't think Tammy Faye was like that. In fact, I have a feeling
many
>>>>>> fundamentalists will claim Tammy Faye was punished for being more
>>>>>> accepting than them.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think you are overlooking some very im****tant FACTS that too many
>>>>> would just as soon brush under the carpet!
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. she was a liar, a cheat, and a thief. She and hubby Jimmy
bilked
>>>>> their loyal listeners out of MILLIONS! My mother was one they
bilked!
>>>>> Now look up in your Bible what God has to say about thieves.
>>>>> Thieves don't go to heaven.
>>>>> She was a liar. The Bible says that liars don't go to heaven.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. The Bible says that the Christian woman is to be MODEST. Yet
Tammy
>>>>> Faye BRAGGED about all the makeup she CAKED on.
>>>>> All that makeup meant ONE thing: she was the victim of EXTREME
>>>>> self-loathing. How God created her to look wasn't good enough! All
>>>>> that makeup merely said that she believed she needed to improve on
how
>>>>> her Creator created her!
>>>>> Several Christian elders/leaders spoke to her about her LAVISH
>>>>> makeup and clothes. She could not have cared less.
>>>>> She didn't know the Bible (which Christians are required to know),
>>>>> so she was totally unaware of God's expectations.
>>>>>
>>>>> She made her bed with her FLAGRANT apostasies; now she gets to
>>>>> sleep in that bed!
>>>>>
>>>>> Think about it: She PRIDED herself on her painted, made up
>>>>> appearance.
>>>>>
>>>>> How she looked after being EATEN alive by cancer was WAY beyond
what
>>>>> any makeup could cover!
>>>>
>>>> You are one hell of a Christian John, you're the reason I left
Christianity.
>>>> Does the bible say anything about those who drive others out of the
faith?
>>>
>>> No - but I seem to remember the phrase "Judge not, lest ye be
judged".
>>> Oh - and wasn't there a "Let him who is without sin cast the first
>>> stone"? It's because of those that I stay with the faith - not the
>>> Johns of this world.
>>
>> So, if I understand you correctly, every time your pastor (presuming
>> you go to church) points at you and mentions a sin you need to confess
>> (and you're guilty as hell, and you know it), you get up and change
>> churches!
>
>My pastor (and yes I do) would not point at me. He would gently take me
>aside and mention it. That's the Christian thing to do. And no, I
>wouldn't change churches for exactly that reason.
Good! I am glad to hear it! I have been in churches in which the
pastor would point, and I've been in churches in which the pastor or
an elder would take you aside and ask if there's any way they can help
you through your problem.
I like the 2nd approach myself.
And last time I got taken aside, my wife (ex-) had just falsely
accused me of abusing her and our child (3 at the time).
The elders believed her without even asking me, and after I had
repeatedly explained to no avail, I left that church.
I got tired after some 6 months of having heads turn and people
whisper and point every time I walked in.
So I walked out.
>
>>
>> I am in this world to point to the sins in the world for those who
>> have not noticed.
>
>And yours?
This wasn't about "my sins."
Someone commented on Tammy Faye, and I gave my opinion that the past
few years, we've witnessed the day-by-day judgment of God against
Tammy Faye.
What are they? Are you going to detail them all for us?
I'm sure others will help you with that.
I detail my sins to God.
When you can forgive my every sin, I'll give you the whole list.
>
>>
>> There is truly no reason for you to critique me.
>>
>> You are critiquing one of God's servants!
>
>Would you like me to pass you a mirror?
???? How's about you spend a good month or two looking into it
yourself?
>
>>
>>
>> I will face Him some day; you will, too!
>
>Oh I know. And I have no defence save Christ.
I would say that myself.
The same Christ who knows
>better than you - or I - my faults and the faults of others. But you
>know, that will do for me.
Well, I learned a few years back to not expect ever other Christian
on the planet to walk the same walk I walk. Peter didn't walk in
Jesus' footsteps. Paul didn't walk in Peter's steps! Bart didn't
follow Paul's steps.
There's no reason for me to seek your example or for you to seek mine.
If either of us compares one to the other, we've taken our eyes off
Jesus.
>>
>> john w
>
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Subject: Re: Tammy Faye wasted away
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:52:19 -0700
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>On Jul 23, 10:35 am, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> So, if I understand you correctly, every time your pastor (presuming
>> you go to church) points at you and mentions a sin you need to confess
>> (and you're guilty as hell, and you know it), you get up and change
>> churches!
>
>Projecting again (you've actually changed churches for that very
>reason, haven't you?).
You should truly stop trying to play amateur psychologist or
behaviorist. You are no good at it.
You get very irate if anyone challenges or questions what you see as
your "ministry."
I do, too.
As for changing churches because the pastor pointed a finger at me,
that has never happened.
Not once!
What HAS caused me to leave churches was the pastor/elders not
living up to God's standard for elders.
>
>> I am in this world to point to the sins in the world for those who
>> have not noticed.
>
>So you believe that God has placed you here to judge others?
??? I don't see the word "judge" or the words "judge others" in
what I said. Would you kindly point that out to me.
What do preachers do? They tell people about sin and how to live
better lives for God.
That is one of my ministries. It's obviously not one of yours!
>
>> There is truly no reason for you to critique me.
>> You are critiquing one of God's servants!
>
>You mean a "special servant of God", don't you?
????
I have said MANY times, Delusional Dr Kelly, that each person who
makes the effort to submit to God and do what God has called us to is
"special."
I am no more "special" than any other Christian who is striving daily
to "walk the walk."
I am deeply troubled that you don't understand that concept.
john w
(delusion of grandeur
>noted).
>
>> I will face Him some day; you will, too!
>
>We all will. Will you be on your meds when you do?
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>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:33:55 -0700, "Vernono O" <Here @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> "john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>> news:hncca3hkan1hmohtcgshfrrl4bp1pthar0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> Read James three times.
>>> Come back when you have figured the words about the tongues and
conflicts.
>>> It is ALL ABOUT you and those like you.
>>
>> When you give me some indication that you're a Christian, you can
>> come back and give me readings from the Bible.
>>
>> So far, I've seen LITTLE from you but HATE.
>>
>So far, what you've been seeing is totally unreliable.
Oh! And just exactly WHY should I consider YOU "totally reliable?"
I can't recall the last time you EVER expressed any Christian love
to me. It's been 5 (?) years of hate, hate, hate, hate, hate, hate,
hate, hate.
When you come to me with some indication that you're a Christian,
you can begin to correct me. When all I get from you is
self-righteous HATE, you can keep all your other high-minded thoughts
to yourself.
john w
>
>JohnHenry
>>
>> john w
>>
>>
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Attention: Concerned Christians! RE Profanity In
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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:49:18 -0700
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>
wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:27:34 -0400, John Henry <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 10:28:51 -0400, John Henry <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:13:40 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>>>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>> "Scout Lady" <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:5gjr9tF3g22btU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>> "John Henry" <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:f8276c$p3n$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's not a comment about her personal beliefs; last I heard,
Ms Keaton
>>>>>>>>>> is Jewish.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Diane Keaton was raised a Methodist but in an interview in 2002
she said
>>>>>>>> she was now an atheist.
>>>>>>> Sorry, John W said Diane Keaton was Jewish not John Henry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It was my understanding during an interview she did awhile back
that
>>>>>> she said she is Jewish.
>>>>> Obviously, she now wears flip-flops.
>>>>>> I certainly will admit I could be wrong.
>>>>> "That'll be the day!
>>>>> ---John Wayne
>>>> Why do you even bother to comment, when all you seem to find worth
>>>> doing is tra****ng people?
>>> You say that you're a Christian, meaning you are not only responsible
>>> for your mouth...but the tongue in it; however, Diane Keaton, who is
>>> either an atheist or Jewish, is not. These know not what they do,
but
>>> you do; therefore, you are more culpable than she.
>>
>> The issue, stupid one, is not one of culpability.
>>
>> I said no thing about complaining to Diane Keaton. I DID suggest
>> that Christians boycott/write to L'Oreal.
>
>Haven't you noticed, few here follow your suggestions on most matters?
Haven't you noticed, piss-ant, that I truly don't give a ***, what
anyone in here thinks?
Are you truly that dull of mind that you just don't get that your
point of view matters no more to me than mine does to you?
tsk tsk
And you call ME "stupid!"
>>
>> But that is WAY too much trouble for a piss-ant like you. You're MUCH
>> too busy pulling the legs off of beetles!
>>
>> (you focus on the insignificant in your insignificant little world.)
>>
>Like trying to get Christians to boycott or write L'Oreal for Diane
>Keanton's utterances when yours are a hundred-fold worse?
You truly believe that things I say in here to 20 or 30 (max)
people who read my posts are MORE im****tant, and "a hundred-fold
worse" than Diane Keaton's commercial which is seen by MILLIONS?
You are one twisted son-of-a-*****!
>
>JohnHenry
>>
>> john w
>>
>>>> I raised what I considered a valid issue for Christians across
>>>> America!
>>> Before you raise what you consider a valid issue for Christians, how
>>> about you ask us first?
Do you ask MY permission to post what you choose to post? Not
that *I* recall!
I also didn't address my post to YOU. I posted it to "Christians".
See, "Christians" in the subject?
You don't consider ME a Christian; fine! I don't consider you one,
either!
;-)
>>>> YOU chose to take the op****tunity to trash ME yet again! I'm
>>>> actually NOT the topic of this thread!
>>> You are complaining about what comes out of someone else's mouth when
>>> what comes out of your mouth is no better; therefore, you became the
>>> subject by default.
You continue to REFUSE to get the point. Perhaps there is actually
NO gray matter in your skull!
I didn't complain about "what comes out of someone else's mouth"; I
complained about an anti-Christian commercial seen by MILLIONS.
However, I sort of see your point, that you are so twisted with HATE
for me that NOTHING I say gets through.
And here, I AGAIN am done with your petty, piss-ant, tiny-minded
ranting.
john w
>>>> Seems every time I "re-direct" a thread, you jump on me! But every
>>>> time I START a thread, you seek to de-rail it!
>>> If my posts are problematic, either put me in your kill-file or
ignore me.
>>>> Grow up, John H!
>>> How innovative.
>>>> Get some help!
>>> Ah, "copy & paste," what WOULD you do without them?
>>>> You WILL face Jesus one day! And I'm betting He's going to ask you
>>>> why you spent so much valuable time harassing me!
>>>>
>>> Perhaps, but maybe you better begin working on why you gave me so
much
>>> cause.
>>>>>> HOWEVER, I don't see what religion she practices being at issue.
>>>>> Yet you said, "Christian," "Christians," "Jewish," "Jesus," and
"God,"
>>>>> and posted this on ARC(hristian)B?
>>>>>> At issue is that she is actively practicing profanity on
national TV
>>>>>> while Christians do NOTHING!
>>>>> Maybe she ought to come here and see how you talk? Oh wait, then
she'll
>>>>> talk 100 times worse!
>>>>>> I won't do NOTHING.
>>>>> You Activist, you.
>>>>>> I will leave it to the pretenders in here to do NOTHING.
>>>>>>
>>>>> "Are all apostles? Are all prophets? Are all teachers? Are all
workers
>>>>> of miracles? Do all have gifts of healings? Do all speak with
tongues?
>>>>> Do all interpret" (1 Cor. 12:29&30)? [Implied answer, "No." We do
not
>>>>> all walk in the same ministry.]
>>>>>> In fact, there was a media article several years ago that I ran
>>>>>> across. I believe it was in TV Guide. It said that after the
>>>>>> Millennium, the media (major networks) planned on introducing more
and
>>>>>> more "profanity" and "crude language" into TV.
>>>>> You gleaned all this from, what, "Theology Today-TV Guide?"
>>>>>> I know I've heard profanity "Jesus" and "Christ" during the Ken
>>>>>> Schram (TV exec) commentary several times.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His comment once was, "Christ!" Let's get real." or to that
>>>>>> effect.
>>>>>> His other comment was, "Jesus!"
>>>>> Jesus made a comment, as well: “Father, forgive them, for they do
not
>>>>> know what they do” (Luke 23:34).
>>>>>> That's certainly understandable. He's a good Roman Catholic!
>>>>>>
>>>>> If I round them all up for you, tie them over stacks and stacks of
>>>>> kindling, hand you a kerosene-soaked torch, and you don't smoke,
what
>>>>> would you do? Ask around, "Anyone got a light?"
>>>>>
>>>>> JohnHenry
>>>>>> john w
>>
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Attention: Concerned Christians! RE Profanity In
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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:43:36 -0700
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<galia@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 13:23:11 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>
>>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>>news:t1o9a3djocdt1tt44thto4rs3vhllhbi9r@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:13:40 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Scout Lady" <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:5gjr9tF3g22btU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "John Henry" <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:f8276c$p3n$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's not a comment about her personal beliefs; last I heard, Ms
>>>>>>>>> Keaton
>>>>>>>>> is Jewish.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Diane Keaton was raised a Methodist but in an interview in 2002
she
>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>> she was now an atheist.
>>>>>>Sorry, John W said Diane Keaton was Jewish not John Henry.
>>>>>>
>>>>> It was my understanding during an interview she did awhile back
that
>>>>> she said she is Jewish.
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly will admit I could be wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> HOWEVER, I don't see what religion she practices being at issue.
>>>>>
>>>>Yet you brought it up when you thought she was Jewish!
>>>
>>> Do you have a clue as to the difference between a MINOR "aside"
>>> comment and a significant detail?
>>>
>>> The comment about her being Jewish-- so I thought-- was not a
>>> significant detail.
>>>
>>> Why do you strive so hard to re-direct discussion AWAY from the point
>>> being made by the poster? Or is it just bull**** you pull on ME?
>>>
>>>
>>> What's with your mind games, Cathy?
>>>
>>> Grow up!
>>>
>>> This world is not about how many ways you can play mind games with
>>> me!
>>>
>>> There ARE bigger issues than you toying with me! There's the issue I
>>> raised, which I noticed "Good Catholic" You haven't even bothered to
>>> address yet!
>>>
>>> You're just too busy trying to jerk my chain!
>>>
>>>
>>> john w
>>>
>> You sound crazier than usual today John.
>>
>Maybe that new person in his life, he talked about 2-3 weeks ago, has
left
>him already...
You DO know, galia, I hope,that your ongoing bitterness and HATRED do
ME no harm, and they do YOU no good!
>
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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.roman-
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Subject: Re: Those that believe in God
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:42:24 -0700
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<michaeljames@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:07:50 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>> >On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 09:50:36 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
>> >
>> >>>Perhaps you should approach the subject a little differently.
>> >>>Satan believes in God. After all, he is a fallen angel. He
rejected
>God's
>> >>>word.
>> >>>A&E believe in God. After all, they rejected his words, considered
>themselves
>> >>>suitable to tell him "no", and look at what happened to them.
>> >>>We believe in God.
>> >
>> >> Actually you don't. You don't "believe in God." Because part of
>> >>"believing IN God" involves "believing God."
>> >> You don't "believe God."
>> >
>> >Yet we Catholics are the ones that follow the words of Christ,
>>
>> You are a liar.
>>
>> john w
>
>
>Have you had a chat with Him lately? What did He tell you?
How ARROGANT!
my conversations with God are not your concern!
I might as well ask you what your wife whispers in your ear when
you're having ***!!
"None of your business."
>
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Subject: Re: Those that believe in God
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:41:07 -0700
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:42:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:42:06 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>>Yet we Catholics are the ones that follow the words of Christ,
>>You are a liar.
>
>You really need to reconsider your spiritual suicide, jw.
"Ditto." And I haven't committed spiritual suicide.
That you DEPEND on Rome to save you means you have already put the
gun to your own head and pulled the trigger (no evidence of any
remaining gray matter)
>
>MASS:
>Do this in memory of me - Mat 26, Mark 14, Luke 22, 1Cor 11.
?? The church I attend does a "Lord's Supper / Communion" monthly.
We follow what we believe is the teaching Christ left.
I do not observe "mass" as it's cannibalism and vampirism, nor
would I ever knowingly participate in a "mass."
>
>SACRAMENTS:
>Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19
Baptism isn't a "sacrament";
however, as I've stated MANY times (and you continue to IGNORE),
I was immersed (as Christ was, and as He apparently immersed
others) when I was like 11 years old. (I no longer have the cert, so I
can't give an exact date or age)
I DO recall my pastor "baptizing me in the name of the Father, and
of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit."
Like Jesus said to do it.
>Holy Eucharist - Mat 26, Mark 14, Luke 22, 1 Cor 11.
?????? Why would you list the Lord's Supper twice?
You evidently are so IGNORANT of scripture YOU didn't notice!
>Confession - John 20:22-23, Mat 9:2-8
I confess my sins daily. I need no priest. Jesus said that when we
pray (to confess and repent, and to submit our petitions to God), we
are to go into our closet and pray SECRETLY.
That's what I do; I pray and confess IN SECRET; just me and God!
You should try that some time! (it's called "obedience")
>Matrimony - Ephesians 5:31
??????
>Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13, Acts 8:14-17, 19:5-6,
??????
Why do you keep posting Roman Catholic BS here?
NO SALE!
>Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
??????
Why do you keep posting Roman Catholic BS here?
NO SALE!
Does it EVER get through your pea brain that you've been posting
this SAME BULL PUCKY for YEARS, and you've had ZERO converts?
You are as stubborn as you are stupid!
>Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14
I have been anointed, and I have anointed.
You make NO points!
>
>PAPACY:
>Mat 16:13-20, Acts 15:7
The words "papacy" and "pope" do not appear in scripture.
john w
>
>duke, American-American
>*****
>"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>Pope Paul VI
>*****
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:37:28 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:41:01 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>>>I'm not certain what it is you believe you gain by coming into a
>>>>Christian group and attacking Christians, Christ, and the Bible.
>>>That's not the problem, jw.
>
>> After all your ugly tongue-la****ng of me over the past week, you
>>truly don't need to sidle up to me and make friendly, duke.
>
>I'm not sidling up to you, jw.
Let me put it this way, then, since you didn't seem to get my
tongue-in-cheek rebuke.
After your performance this past week, and as you continue to use
that EXTREMELY offensive sign-off,
you don't need to speak to me AT ALL!
Put me on your enemies list, and I'll bump you up a couple notches
on mine!
;-)
I'll certainly pray that you find your way out of the spiritual
darkness you're in before He comes and finds you wallowing in the
pagan mud of the RCC cesspool, but I have NO interest in being your
Usenet buddy!
john w
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Subject: Re: Preacher Sues 20/20 for Defamation
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 18:27:43 -0700
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 16:11:00 -0500, Sanders Kaufman
<bucky@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>Ronald 'More-More' Moshki wrote:
>> On Jul 25, 4:16 pm, Sanders Kaufman <bu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> Well, the lawsuit is not about the strutting, but whether or not he
>> was bragging about what "I have" or was making a point about
>> the excess of others.
>
>That's certainly what the evangelist is *trying* to turn it into.
>
>The point of the *broadcast* was to show these "prosperity" evangelists,
>are living lavish lifestyles, while fleecing the flock.
>
>The fact that he has two Mercedez's, rather than a helicopter doesn't
>change anything. Whether his mansion has 15, rather than 25 rooms,
>doesn't change anything.
>
>He's still living a lavish lifestyle by taking money from people, while
>promising that GAWD will pay them back exponentially.
>
>It's a promise that Prosperity Evangelists are making breaking to flocks
>of impoverished sheep-like Christians all over the country, every day.
>
>That kind of crap may go over in Islamistan, but here in the US - we
>have a constitutional mandate to provide for the common defense - and
>that includes defending children, the elderly and stupid little,
>unemployable religious zealots.
>
>
>
>> The tape should tell us what occured but with Christians and their
>> world class subjectivity you expect the worst, i.e. the judge, jury
>> etc.
>
>I'm not an Christian - so I don't have any religious prohibition against
>using my own judgement.
There is no "religious prohibition" for any Christian using his own
judgment. The prohibition is on the Christian's judgment overcoming
his understanding of scripture.
Let me give you an example. I may find myself unemployed and dirt
broke, with a mortgage payment past due, the car payment two months
behind, and no food in the fridge.
My "better judgment" may suggest to me that obtaining a gun and
robbing a bank/ or even just going to the local grocery store and
seeing how many groceries I can STEAL is a good idea.
However, my Christianity tells me that robbing a bank or stealing
from a grocery is NOT a good idea, and that if I am faithful, "God
WILL provide."
God DOES provide in such cir***stances.
>In fact, according to my faith, using ones own judgement is a MORAL
>IMPERATIVE.
In that way, your "faith" and the faith of the true, sincere
Christian are no different.
And having been a Christian for OVER 50 YEARS now, I believe I can
speak with some authority on what Christianity teaches.
It really annoys me how many will create a FALSE sense of what
Christianity really is, and then badmouth that FALSE picture.
No one could object to REAL, TRUE, New Testament Christianity, in
which God loved man enough to provide eternal life to all who would
simply agree to "follow a few new rules."
Those rules include "treat others as you would like others to treat
you."
"Love your neighbor as you love yourself."
"Don't lie, don't cheat, don't steal."
"Honor the God who created you." (why NOT? except some people's
egos won't allow that)
"Don't desire to have *** with your neighbor's wife, his daughter,
or his son." (this one all by itself proscribes all sorts of perverse
ACTS)
"Don't plot on how to get your neighbor's nicer car" from him.
these rules, and a few others, are the "basics" of Christianity.
There is an old saying in Christianity:
"If more people knew what Christianity was actually all about,
fewer people would object to it."
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> wrote:
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>Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>> Ronald 'More-More' Moshki wrote:
>>> On Jul 25, 4:16 pm, Sanders Kaufman <bu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, the lawsuit is not about the strutting, but whether or not he
>>> was bragging about what "I have" or was making a point about
>>> the excess of others.
>>
>> That's certainly what the evangelist is *trying* to turn it into.
>>
>> The point of the *broadcast* was to show these "prosperity"
evangelists,
>> are living lavish lifestyles, while fleecing the flock.
>>
>> The fact that he has two Mercedez's, rather than a helicopter doesn't
>> change anything. Whether his mansion has 15, rather than 25 rooms,
>> doesn't change anything.
>>
>> He's still living a lavish lifestyle by taking money from people,
while
>> promising that GAWD will pay them back exponentially.
>>
>> It's a promise that Prosperity Evangelists are making breaking to
flocks
>> of impoverished sheep-like Christians all over the country, every day.
>>
>> That kind of crap may go over in Islamistan, but here in the US - we
>> have a constitutional mandate to provide for the common defense - and
>> that includes defending children, the elderly and stupid little,
>> unemployable religious zealots.
>
>
> I've got to hand it to you here, that would be a twist in events for
> a non christian to be better at practicing what they should be doing
> than the christians, which is being your neighbors keeper and
> protector. My hats off to you..
>
Wow! How nice! No bias from Rod!
john w
>>
>>
>>
>>> The tape should tell us what occured but with Christians and their
>>> world class subjectivity you expect the worst, i.e. the judge, jury
>>> etc.
>>
>> I'm not an Christian - so I don't have any religious prohibition
against
>> using my own judgement.
>> In fact, according to my faith, using ones own judgement is a MORAL
>> IMPERATIVE.
>
> Bush and the last two elections are more than enough reason
> for this moral imperative.
>
> Rod
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>Ronald 'More-More' Moshki wrote:
>> On Jul 25, 4:16 pm, Sanders Kaufman <bu...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> Well, the lawsuit is not about the strutting, but whether or not he
>> was bragging about what "I have" or was making a point about
>> the excess of others.
>
>That's certainly what the evangelist is *trying* to turn it into.
>
>The point of the *broadcast* was to show these "prosperity" evangelists,
>are living lavish lifestyles, while fleecing the flock.
The FACT is, I went to the page from the link that was supplied.
Apparently, the video footage is not on that link anymore. There was
no video attached.
The FACT is, that the article (I read roughly half the article)
ADMITTED that the re****ter(s) had lifted a quote from Rev Price that
was NOT an accurate statement of his "personal holdings."
When the re****ter is willing to apologize for lifting a quote and
using it out of context (Fred Price's hyperbole aside), it's rather a
moot point for people in here to be pointing fingers at Fred Price as
a result of "this posted article", when in fact the article is an
APOLOGY to Dr Price.
Make no mistake, I am not a Fred Price fan. I know him. He's a
charlatan if ever there was one.
But if you're going to "get him, fair and square", you must do it
honestly.
There is NO excuse whatsoever for lifting a quote from a sermon he
gave and NOT checking with him and / or his staff for the accuracy of
the quote.
With NO respect intended towards Fred Price, this time, the media got
it wrong. Too bad, the stats have shown for YEARS that a retraction
after a negative story had not NEARLY the same impact as the original
story.
>
>The fact that he has two Mercedez's, rather than a helicopter doesn't
>change anything. Whether his mansion has 15, rather than 25 rooms,
>doesn't change anything.
Sure it does. He was accused of BRAGGING about his helicopter, and
his 25-room mansion.
He doesn't have either.
>
>He's still living a lavish lifestyle by taking money from people, while
>promising that GAWD will pay them back exponentially.
And it's the fault of the gullible who sit in his church and
listen, with avarice aforethought (people who believe that if they rub
shoulders with Fred Price, they too can be wealthy) who are
responsible for getting fleeced.
If they weren't there trying to learn how to get rich, he wouldn't
be able to take the money out of their pockets!
Let's try placing the blame where it belongs! The avaricious flock
are as to blame as he is.
>
>It's a promise that Prosperity Evangelists are making breaking to flocks
>of impoverished sheep-like Christians all over the country, every day.
Kindly don't call Fred Price's or Rod Parsley's or Benny Hinn's
followers "Christians."
I attended a home church from Fred Price's church briefly while I
was at Pepperdine U in the 1970s. I left that home church when I had
an argument with the home church's "pastor", one "Rev Chester Pipkin"
about whether Jesus Christ was God in flesh or not. Chester INSISTED
that Jesus was a "prophet", that he was NOT God in flesh.
I tried unsuccessfully to show Chester and his little group the
scriptures that proved that Jesus was God in flesh. They patiently
read the passages with me, and then demonstrated their spiritual
blindness by insisting that the Trinitarian passages weren't
Trinitarian passages. This same group is borderline JW, as they also
deny the Person of the Holy Spirit, and they call Him "it" and "holy
spirit" instead.
Fred Price is NOT a New Testament, born-again Christian!
>
>That kind of crap may go over in Islamistan, but here in the US - we
>have a constitutional mandate to provide for the common defense - and
>that includes defending children, the elderly and stupid little,
>unemployable religious zealots.
>
YOu can't "defend" people from their religious beliefs, unless those
beliefs threaten the physical well-being of the follower.
>
>
>> The tape should tell us what occured but with Christians and their
>> world class subjectivity you expect the worst, i.e. the judge, jury
>> etc.
That's crap! Any true Christian can understand what's up with Fred
Price and Benny Hinn!
The test is, do the "teacher/preacher"s teachings conform to CLEAR
scripture, or don't they?
When I confronted Fred's brother with his unscriptural teachings, he
confessed, but he REFUSED to repent.
>
>I'm not an Christian - so I don't have any religious prohibition against
>using my own judgement.
>In fact, according to my faith, using ones own judgement is a MORAL
>IMPERATIVE.
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>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
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>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>> "john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:h9o9a3h44dtn4djlgmpn2gum6qekmgoogf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:52:33 -0700, "<~(Hey,
>>>>>>> WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>"
<ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2:46 am, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And I have not YET had the op****tunity to write down the exact
>>>>>>>>> words
>>>>>>>>> used, but Diane Keaton is voice-overing a photo of herself, and
her
>>>>>>>>> words are something to the effect of, "JESUS! I never..."
>>>>>>>> How about "Geez, I never..."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That would be more accurate, and it's not profanity - "geez" is
a
>>>>>>>> combination of the words "gee whiz".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now, as someone else already pointed out - are you going to
clean up
>>>>>>>> your language since you are so concerned with everyone else's?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It utterly boggles my mind how those who PROFESS Christianity
never
>>>>>>> quite seem to get around to LIVING IT!
>>>>>> And you are LIVING IT?? (of course not!)
>>>>> ???
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe I made my point.
>>>> With your boggled mind?
>>>
>>> "Funny stuff!" You and Elaine and Cathy should TRULY get together
>>> and be a comedy team!
>>>
>>> Me: I believe I made my point.
>>>
>>> You: With your boggled mind?
>>>
>>> I seem to have made enough sense to you that you gave me a
>>> semi-intelligent RESPONSE to my remark!
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> You're not 10 % as clever as you think!
>>>
>>>
>>>> ~²ºº²~ galia ~²ºº³~
>>>>
>>>> "Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be
one."
>>>> -- Marcus Aelius Aurelius
>>>
>>> I was taught MANY years ago, that before you apply such "piths,"
you
>>> should first apply them to yourself.
>>>
>>> How do you have time becoming a great man when you spend all this
>>> time kicking my ass?
>>>
>> Free time, a good computer, and the ability to multi-task?
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>Thanks JohnH, you took the words right out of my mouth... LOL
In other words, when some quote Jesus, some quote Paul, some quote
Socrates or Plato or JFK or Albert Schweitzer,
by your own words, you quote John Hennekes!
??? who???
>
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Attention: Concerned Christians! RE Profanity In
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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:02:18 -0700
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 15:11:08 -0400, "~²ºº²~ galia ~²ºº³~"
<galia@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>"John Henry" <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:f88002$t9i$1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:45:15 -0400, "~²ºº²~ galia ~²ºº³~"
>>> <galia@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>
>>>> "john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>> news:i7baa3p60ou1v4pkssnnrec6dql1o3lipu@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:43:27 -0400, "~²ºº²~ galia ~²ºº³~"
>>>>> <galia@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>> "john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:h9o9a3h44dtn4djlgmpn2gum6qekmgoogf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:52:33 -0700, "<~(Hey,
>>>>>>> WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>"
<ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2:46 am, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And I have not YET had the op****tunity to write down the exact
>>>>>>>>> words
>>>>>>>>> used, but Diane Keaton is voice-overing a photo of herself, and
her
>>>>>>>>> words are something to the effect of, "JESUS! I never..."
>>>>>>>> How about "Geez, I never..."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That would be more accurate, and it's not profanity - "geez" is
a
>>>>>>>> combination of the words "gee whiz".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Now, as someone else already pointed out - are you going to
clean up
>>>>>>>> your language since you are so concerned with everyone else's?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It utterly boggles my mind how those who PROFESS Christianity
never
>>>>>>> quite seem to get around to LIVING IT!
>>>>>> And you are LIVING IT?? (of course not!)
>>>>> ???
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe I made my point.
>>>> With your boggled mind?
>>>
>>> "Funny stuff!" You and Elaine and Cathy should TRULY get together
>>> and be a comedy team!
>>>
>>> Me: I believe I made my point.
>>>
>>> You: With your boggled mind?
>>>
>>> I seem to have made enough sense to you that you gave me a
>>> semi-intelligent RESPONSE to my remark!
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> You're not 10 % as clever as you think!
>>>
>>>
>>>> ~²ºº²~ galia ~²ºº³~
>>>>
>>>> "Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be
one."
>>>> -- Marcus Aelius Aurelius
>>>
>>> I was taught MANY years ago, that before you apply such "piths,"
you
>>> should first apply them to yourself.
>>>
>>> How do you have time becoming a great man when you spend all this
>>> time kicking my ass?
>>>
>> Free time, a good computer, and the ability to multi-task?
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>Thanks JohnH, you took the words right out of my mouth... LOL
Once again, anonymous coward galia, you prove the point I made
awhile back: You're a hater, and you've never had an original thought
in your entire life!
john w
>
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Attention: Concerned Christians! RE Profanity In
Commercials!
Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:01:13 -0700
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:28:38 -0400, "Scout Lady"
<scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:29:04 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>
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>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 23:07:12 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>
>>>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>>>news:cu9da3tagc032ipvnnlt6ovalqtmsng79a@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are a God-damned liar,
>>>>>>
>>>>>Yet this is the man who wants people to boycott/write L'oreal becaus
>>>>>Diane
>>>>>Keaton said geez.....
>>>>
>>>> You pretend to be educated, yet you don't know the actual definition
>>>> of "taking God's name in vain."
>>>>
>>>> tsk tsk
>>>>
>>>> You damned PHONY!
>>>>
>>>Sticks and stones.....
>>
>> Interesting. When I call you what you are, it's "sticks and
>> stones". (childish)
>>
>What you think of me matters only to you since you are totally nuts.
Coming from you, that hurts me DEEPLY, Cathy. Because your opinion of
me (and your opinion on EVERYTHING) matters just SOOOOO much to me.
:-(
>
>> When you call me names ("crazy", "insane"), how is that not "sticks
>> and stones?"
>>
>Because you are crazy John.
Actually, Cathy, I'm not.
That's just your "too easy" way of pigeon-holing people you can
neither understand nor cope with.
"I DO understand!"
Did you know, Van Gogh was considered insane in his day?
chuckle.
>
>> You should truly grow up and try to be an ADULT for a change. I'm
>> sure you could be MUCH more productive.
>>
>I am not the one who is living off the taxpayers on this country John.
I see you can ALWAYS fall back on your low-blows, Cathy.
Pray that you are never too ill to take care of yourself.
It's not unusual for God to curse those who mess with His children
(me) by blessing you with the same afflictions you curse in others.
And if you're "sane", I don't want any part of it!
I see literally NO THING in you that I would "be more like."
>
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Attention: Concerned Christians! RE Profanity In
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Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 12:56:37 -0700
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> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>
>>>"John Henry" <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:14:59 -0500, "Col. Sneak"
>>>>> <colsneak@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:28:11 -0400, John Henry
<johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 09:37:11 -0700, "<~(Hey,
>>>>>>>>> WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>"
>>>>>>>>> <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of
this
>>>>>>>>> post
>>>>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the
author.
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 23, 10:10 am, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I know I've heard profanity "Jesus" and "Christ" during the
Ken
>>>>>>>>>>> Schram (TV exec) commentary several times.
>>>>>>>>>>> His comment once was, "Christ!" Let's get real." or to
that
>>>>>>>>>>> effect.
>>>>>>>>>>> His other comment was, "Jesus!"
>>>>>>>>>>> That's certainly understandable. He's a good Roman
Catholic!
>>>>>>>>>> Liar.
>>>>>>>>> You AGAIN don't know what the HELL you are talking about, and
YOU
>>>>>>>>> are the liar!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps profanity isn't something you tune in to! I do!
>>>>>>>> Well, that's a given.
>>>>>>>>> I happen to know Ken Schram (and his family) - he grew up just
>>>>>>>>>> 20 miles from the town I grew up in.
>>>>>>>>> Should I dance a jig?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He's a good man
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> He also smokes. So he's a Roman Catholic (who says so
openly), he
>>>>>>>>> smokes, which he BRAGS about ("maybe I'll quit SOME DAY! Maybe
I
>>>>>>>>> won't!")
>>>>>>>>>
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