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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:33:54 -0400, "Scout Lady"
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> wrote:
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>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:36:50 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:34:16 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am bi-polar. Common knowledge! I also have "personality
>>>>disorder".
>>>> Meaning, I'm not too good on TACT. I make up for that by being
>>>> HONEST (in spite of the bs being tossed about concerning me by
>>>>certain cretins)
>>>
>>>No 'BS' at all, liar-johnnie.
>>> Your lies have hit you smack in the face,
>>
>> Has it ever in a million years occurred to you, Elaine, that you will
>> one day pay for all these HATE filled accusations?
>>
>> Evidently, you think you're on a permanent "Get Out Of Jail" pass!
>>
>You are projecting again John.
I don't recall addressing you.
In the real world, not this cesspool you seem to so love, I have a
life, I have lots of things to do, I have friends.
I simply don't need you!
john w
It is you who believes that bipolar=get out
>of jail free.
>
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Subject: Re: Tammy Faye Bakker Messner Dies
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:46:10 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 15:32:15 -0400, "Scout Lady"
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>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:25:53 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>
>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>news:j5v7a3popuit0orcpqgdi0o5ieod3tmngm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>>> While my mother scraped to feed herself and sent part of her check
>>>> to "Tammy Faye and Jimmy" every month!
>>>>
>>>If that is the truth then your mother didn't have both oars in the
water
>>>either.
>>
>> I'm betting you weren't the smart child in your family!
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>> (if you are going to insult my mother...)
>>
>I didn't insult your mother, you did
Yeah, you did!
john w
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:58:16 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:58:47 -0400, * US * wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:04:40 -0700, "bushkultie@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"
<bvallely@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>wrote:
>
>>On Jul 22, 11:38 pm, frisbieinst...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>> Why do you conservatives sup****t a government that is opposed to the
>>> US Constitution?
>>
>>We don't.
If you want to read a REAL expose (one too many IGNORED), on one of
the worst assaults by a sitting President on our Constitution, about a
President who had nothing but CONTEMPT for the American people, you
should truly read
The Death of Outrage, by William Bennett.
It contains like a 5 page list of the RAW abuses of Executive
Authority (the Presidency) by none other than William Jefferson
Clinton.
Why doesn't anyone talk about his abuses of power, his IGNORING of
basic American Civil Rights?
I typed a list of about 2 pages of his listed Treasonous offenses
about a year ago.
I got ZERO comment, as I recall.
john w
>
>You despise the US Constitution, you craven traitor.
>
>The US Constitution requires adherence to treaties
>to which the USA is signatory.
>
>Your ghoul idols are defying the findings of the
>Nuremberg Tribunals, the Geneva Conventions,
>the Montreal Sabotage Convention, and other
>parts of US Constitutional Law.
>
>Bush and Cheney are terrorizing the Iraqis to keep
>them from selling you cheap oil, and to raid the US
>Treasury with war profiteering, forcing huge debt
>on even the future generations of Americans.
>
>US soldiers and Iraqis are being massacred so that
>Cheney and Bush can line their pockets and those
>of their corrupt crony cohort. You sup****t that
>because you're a bloodthirsty sociopath who hates
>everyone else including especially Americans, or else
>you're a total mindless coward ready to grovel at their
>feet because you've been deluded into the false belief
>that they would keep you 'safe', when all they do in
>reality is betray you. So which is it?
>
>
>Go ahead and explain to everyone why you believe
>that the "Heir to the Holocaust" wouldn't mass
>murder millions of people for fun and profit,
>including plenty of Americans.
>
>
>You're going to need to explain why you sup****t
>doing so much harm to so many, Americans and
>those of other nations alike.
>
>>> And why do you Christians sup****t policies that are
>>> the opposite of what Christ stood for?
>>
>>We don't.
>
>Give an example of "turn the other cheek", and
>of "love thine enemies".
>
>
>Are you at all familiar with those statements?
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Attention: Concerned Christians! RE Profanity In
Commercials!
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:06:44 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:33:14 -0400, John Henry <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
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>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>>
>> Attention: Concerned Christians! RE Profanity In Commercials!
>>
>> Specifically, I am concerned about L'Oreal's most recent TV campaign,
>> featuring the beautiful actress, Diane Keaton.
>>
>> There are probably only a few of you in here who would be remotely
>> concerned with an international product line ("L'Oreal") that allows
>> star spokespersons (specifically Diane Keaton, an actress I LOVE) to
>> use profanity in their commercials!
>>
>> I have never heard any other product company,
>> from Rolls Royce to Mercedes Benz to K-Mart to Wal-Mart
>> use profanity in their commercials.
>>
>> And I have not YET had the op****tunity to write down the exact words
>> used, but Diane Keaton is voice-overing a photo of herself, and her
>> words are something to the effect of, "JESUS! I never..."
>>
>> It is obviously not a prayer. She's advertising L'Oreal cosmetics.
>> It's not a comment about her personal beliefs; last I heard, Ms Keaton
>> is Jewish.
>>
>> It is very obvious that she (or the ad's writer) thought little enough
>> of the Christian market that they felt it quite "ok" to insert some
>> profanity into her latest commercial. Like too many, L'Oreal and Ms
>> Keaton evidently don't think enough Christians care enough.
>>
>> I would hope and pray that enough of you-- Larry, Carl, VernonO, John
>> Hennekes, and others I've forgotten
>>
>> -- that you'd want to write to L'Oreal and express your disapproval
>> and your intent to boycott L'Oreal products, and your intent to spread
>> the word to your families and friends, co-workers and playmates..
>>
>> Some of you may recall a time in the 70s when two Midwest housewives
>> decided that beef prices were too high, so they launched a nation-wide
>> boycott of beef that quite literally brought the beef industry to the
>> brink.
>>
>> A hundred upset Christians (you and all your buddies and families)
>> CAN make a difference.
>>
>> And if we don't stand and let our voices be heard NOW, "When?"
>>
>> Go to
>>
>> www.loreal.com
>>
>> You'll be directed to the correct page, depending upon where on our
>> globe you reside.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> And God bless!
>
>Should Diane Keaton, in fact, be Jewish, then she's not accountable
>(i.e., she doesn't know any better) for misusing the name "Jesus,"
>whereas God's children, who know the ways of God, if they do what's
>wrong, then they are still sinning.
The point is not Diane Keaton's complicity. The point IS that
L'Oreal is doing a national / international campaign (the FIRST one I
recall in history) that includes out-and-out PROFANITY.
Taking God's name in vain is not acceptable in national TV
advertising. IF it were, we'd have been hearing it for YEARS, and it
would not have just started.
And I can't believe that someone who prides himself on being "a
Christian elder" such as you would even argue about it!
I do wonder whether you'd be arguing the point if Larry or Carl had
brought it up.
Perhaps you choose to kill the messenger because you simply DESPISE
the messenger (me) no matter what I say!
It WOULD be Christian of you to set aside your raw HATRED of me to
focus yourself on the subject of the thread:
Unnecessary profanity in TV commercials!
>
>"Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is
>sin" (James 4:17).
>
>Now, if I register a complaint with L'Oreal, will you then promise to
>stop using offensive or any other type of "bad" language, be it cursing,
>cussing, profanity, obscenities, or whatever?
The language I use in here to a handful of people such as YOU who
VERY DELIBERATELY PROVOKE me 10 times a DAY is not the issue.
You are a very childish pretend Christian, John!! You simply MUST,
you just MUST, you absolutely MUST ALWAYS make it about ME!
Every single discussable issue that comes up isn't about ME!
You see, there is no
>difference between that L'Oreal ad offending you, and you using
>inappropriate language that offends more than just a few of us.
Then your "Christianity" is warped, twisted, and bogus.
And I doubt SERIOUSLY if I'm the only Christian who is offended.
And I have said this before, John H, I'll say it again. You use
language that offends people (including me) every day.
Your attitude is no better than my "language."
Will you clean up your attitude?
No.
So what you are saying is that you don't care if they start showing
explicit *** on network TV during "family hour".
They can get as ugly on network TV as they like, and you'll totally
enjoy it!
"No problem!"
It's ME and MY morality that concern you!
tsk tsk
>
>JohnH
>>
>> john w
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Subject: Re: Attention: Concerned Christians! RE Profanity In
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:13:40 -0400, "Scout Lady"
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> wrote:
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>
>"Scout Lady" <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "John Henry" <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>>>> It's not a comment about her personal beliefs; last I heard, Ms
Keaton
>>>> is Jewish.
>>>>
>> Diane Keaton was raised a Methodist but in an interview in 2002 she
said
>> she was now an atheist.
>Sorry, John W said Diane Keaton was Jewish not John Henry.
>
It was my understanding during an interview she did awhile back that
she said she is Jewish.
I certainly will admit I could be wrong.
HOWEVER, I don't see what religion she practices being at issue.
At issue is that she is actively practicing profanity on national TV
while Christians do NOTHING!
I won't do NOTHING.
I will leave it to the pretenders in here to do NOTHING.
In fact, there was a media article several years ago that I ran
across. I believe it was in TV Guide. It said that after the
Millennium, the media (major networks) planned on introducing more and
more "profanity" and "crude language" into TV.
I know I've heard profanity "Jesus" and "Christ" during the Ken
Schram (TV exec) commentary several times.
His comment once was, "Christ!" Let's get real." or to that
effect.
His other comment was, "Jesus!"
That's certainly understandable. He's a good Roman Catholic!
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Subject: Re: Attention: Concerned Christians! RE Profanity In
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Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:15:08 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:52:33 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
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>On Jul 23, 2:46 am, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> And I have not YET had the op****tunity to write down the exact words
>> used, but Diane Keaton is voice-overing a photo of herself, and her
>> words are something to the effect of, "JESUS! I never..."
>
>How about "Geez, I never..."
>
>That would be more accurate, and it's not profanity - "geez" is a
>combination of the words "gee whiz".
>
>Now, as someone else already pointed out - are you going to clean up
>your language since you are so concerned with everyone else's?
It utterly boggles my mind how those who PROFESS Christianity never
quite seem to get around to LIVING IT!
Several in here have ATTACKED me for posting an alert on a NATIONAL
problem; you're all MUCH more concerned with MY behavior, which
affects perhaps 20 people!
"hypocrisy!"
I can see it now. A crowd is gathered to stone an adulteress.
They call to Joe to come help them stone her.
Joe says, "Can't help you, guys! I'm too busy lecturing my son! He
just said "damnit!"
There are very small LOCAL consequences, and there are national and
international implications!
You're WAY too busy minding MY business to worry about the nation's
business or the business of the Christian community at large!
God is just... well, God's just SO PROUD of you right now!
It's truly sad when you allow your personal hatreds to cloud your
common sense and good judgment (presuming you had either)
You DIDN'T get involved in the "Boycott L'Oreal" campaign! But you
sure gave John Weatherly a talking to!
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>
>>>> I don't think Tammy Faye was like that. In fact, I have a feeling
>>>> many fundamentalists will claim Tammy Faye was punished for being
>>>> more accepting than them.
>>>
>>> Absolutely.
>>> She was more concerned with helping others and accepted all people
>>> into her life.
>>
>> She FLAGRANTLY broke God's laws! Without repentance!
>> She lied, she cheated MILLIONS out of their money, which she STOLE.
>>
>> She did not practice Christian MODESTY, and BRAGGED about the
>> EXCESSIVE makeup she wore!
>>
>> God is not mocked!
>
>There's your answer from a certified Christoloon!
You gave your answer; I gave mine. Mine is scriptural. Yours IGNORES
scripture, and God's laws!
"You don't break God's laws; they break you!"
Charlie Shedd
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Subject: Re: Tammy Faye wasted away
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>
>"Geoff" <gebobs@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>
>>>>> I don't think Tammy Faye was like that. In fact, I have a feeling
>>>>> many fundamentalists will claim Tammy Faye was punished for being
>>>>> more accepting than them.
>>>>
>>>> Absolutely.
>>>> She was more concerned with helping others and accepted all people
>>>> into her life.
>>>
>>> She FLAGRANTLY broke God's laws! Without repentance!
>>> She lied, she cheated MILLIONS out of their money, which she STOLE.
>>>
>>> She did not practice Christian MODESTY, and BRAGGED about the
>>> EXCESSIVE makeup she wore!
>>>
>>> God is not mocked!
>>
>> There's your answer from a certified Christoloon!
>
>When the chips were down she got real
When the chips were down, she got real, and her ugly reality showed
through her makeup. When the chips were down, her "faith" was phony.
She didn't want to hear her diagnosis, because "it might hurt her
faith." That isn't real faith. Perfect love casts out all fear.
>>
>>
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:10:41 -0700, Laurie Mann <ldtm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
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>> On Jul 23, 5:12 am, bob young <alaspect...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> > "john w
>> > God is not mocked!
>>
>> Absolutely, hardly possible to mock a myth is it? !!!!
>
>Myths get mocked all the time! ;->
>
>Unlike most of the evangelist types, Tammy Faye
>could laugh at herself.
Interesting twists the anti-Christian bigots come up with!
Tammy Faye showed little or no evidence that she had ever put her
faith in the risen Jesus Christ.
If she had put her faith in God, she wouldn't have needed to swindle
MILLIONS of innocent people.
Like my mother.
john w
Especially after she
>divorced Jim, she seemed a little less tied to
>the strictures of the Fundies.
>
>
>Laurie Mann
>Dead People Server
>http://www.deadpeople.info
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christianity,alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Tammy Faye wasted away
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>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:56:21 -0700, "Irv Hyatt" <irvhyatt@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>
>>>"Charlene" <charlene.vickers@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>>> On Jul 22, 8:46 pm, "Brian F. Nevercene"
>>>> <bfneverc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>> I'm just trying to figure out how the death of Tammy Faye (Bakker)
>>>>> Messner fits into the fundamentalist Christian routine. I mean,
>>>>> from what they say, God gives rewards and punishment on earth. For
>>>>> example, according to fundamentalist spokesmen, 9 11 was
>>>>> punishment from God. He allowed it to happen as a reminder to
>>>>> America it was sinning.
>>>>>
>>>>> Previously, according to the spokesmen, God went a step further,
>>>>> not just allowing AIDS to happen, but creating it to punish people
>>>>> for the sin of homo***uality. All through history, plagues,
>>>>> famines, floods, and natural disasters were all the work of the
>>>>> Lord, punishment or a message. Or so said those qualified to
>>>>> interpret His will in the chaos of events.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think Tammy Faye was like that. In fact, I have a feeling
many
>>>> fundamentalists will claim Tammy Faye was punished for being more
>>>> accepting than them.
>>>
>>>Absolutely.
>>>She was more concerned with helping others and accepted all people
into
>>>her
>>>life.
>>
>> She FLAGRANTLY broke God's laws! Without repentance!
>> She lied, she cheated MILLIONS out of their money, which she STOLE.
>>
>> She did not practice Christian MODESTY, and BRAGGED about the
>> EXCESSIVE makeup she wore!
>>
>> God is not mocked!
>
>Of course he is John, he is mocked every day that you live.
Well, thanks for your cheap shot! However, God loves me even if you
do not!
Just As I AM
Without one plea
But that your blood
Was shed for me
And that you bid me
Come to Me!
Oh, Lamb of God!
I come! I come!
Just As I Am!
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christianity,alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Tammy Faye wasted away
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:29:30 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:26:49 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
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>On Jul 23, 12:25 am, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> She FLAGRANTLY broke God's laws!
>
>Christians are no longer bound by the Law. What's your point?
If you are making "points" like that, you are dead wrong.
Do you believe we can openly fornicate or commit adultery and go to
Heaven?
We can't. Such behaviors prove that we aren't Christians!
Do you believe that we can openly lie, cheat, and steal?
We can't!
You have perhaps missed the comments Jesus made about what God will
do to those who harm children!
You have likewise missed Paul's list of those sins that will keep
you out of heaven!
lying (Tammy Faye), cheating (TF), and stealing (TF) are all on the
list of sins God won't tolerate.
"If you LOVE me, obey me!"
- Jesus Christ.
>
>> Without repentance!
>
>How do you know whether or not she repented? Isn't that between her
>and God?
????
Perhaps you didn't listen to her silly comments to the media.
And in her last interview, she BRAGGED about wearing her HEAVY
makeup into SURGERY! That is totally against protocol!
Besides, Kelly, why should I judge Tammy Faye?
You judge me!
>
>> She lied, she cheated MILLIONS out of their money, which she STOLE.
>
>So do numerous recipients of welfare. What's your point?
I don't really see any point in attempting to make a point to you.
You aren't interested in ANYTHING I say.
I could knock on your door and say, "Your house is on fire! Get
out!"
And since it's me, you'd slam the door in my face.
You can't get past your HATE of me to look at the ISSUES.
I forgive you; you don't forgive me!
>
>> She did not practice Christian MODESTY, and BRAGGED about the
>> EXCESSIVE makeup she wore!
>
>No one goes to hell for having low self-esteem,
I didn't say she was hell-bound for low self-esteem. Did I?
You LOVE to twist people's words into things they didn't say so you
can attack!
Is your REAL name Elaine?
and you brag
>incessantly.
Funny! I'd call it sharing my blessings with my friends!
Of course, someone else (another always-negative soul like you)
recently comment that I could stop "sharing my blessings with my
friends" in here.
"You, John W, don't have any friends in here!"
What's your point?
I believe I made it; I believe you just cut it to shreds like paper
and scissors!
I believe we can safely file your comments under "Not Interested."
john w
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Tammy Faye wasted away
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>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> <charlene.vickers@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>On Jul 22, 8:46 pm, "Brian F. Nevercene"
>>><bfneverc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> I'm just trying to figure out how the death of Tammy Faye (Bakker)
>>>> Messner fits into the fundamentalist Christian routine. I mean,
>>>> from what they say, God gives rewards and punishment on earth. For
>>>> example, according to fundamentalist spokesmen, 9 11 was
>>>> punishment from God. He allowed it to happen as a reminder to
>>>> America it was sinning.
>>>>
>>>> Previously, according to the spokesmen, God went a step further,
>>>> not just allowing AIDS to happen, but creating it to punish people
>>>> for the sin of homo***uality. All through history, plagues,
>>>> famines, floods, and natural disasters were all the work of the
>>>> Lord, punishment or a message. Or so said those qualified to
>>>> interpret His will in the chaos of events.
>>>
>>>I don't think Tammy Faye was like that. In fact, I have a feeling many
>>>fundamentalists will claim Tammy Faye was punished for being more
>>>accepting than them.
>>
>> I think you are overlooking some very im****tant FACTS that too many
>> would just as soon brush under the carpet!
>>
>> 1. she was a liar, a cheat, and a thief. She and hubby Jimmy bilked
>> their loyal listeners out of MILLIONS! My mother was one they bilked!
>> Now look up in your Bible what God has to say about thieves.
>> Thieves don't go to heaven.
>> She was a liar. The Bible says that liars don't go to heaven.
>>
>> 2. The Bible says that the Christian woman is to be MODEST. Yet Tammy
>> Faye BRAGGED about all the makeup she CAKED on.
>> All that makeup meant ONE thing: she was the victim of EXTREME
>> self-loathing. How God created her to look wasn't good enough! All
>> that makeup merely said that she believed she needed to improve on how
>> her Creator created her!
>> Several Christian elders/leaders spoke to her about her LAVISH
>> makeup and clothes. She could not have cared less.
>> She didn't know the Bible (which Christians are required to know),
>> so she was totally unaware of God's expectations.
>>
>> She made her bed with her FLAGRANT apostasies; now she gets to
>> sleep in that bed!
>>
>> Think about it: She PRIDED herself on her painted, made up
>> appearance.
>>
>> How she looked after being EATEN alive by cancer was WAY beyond what
>> any makeup could cover!
>
>You are one hell of a Christian John,
Thanks! I am loved! God accepts me!
And last I looked, Jesus was murdered for preaching God's
righteousness. So was Peter, so was Paul. I am ok with being in
their company!
you're the reason I left Christianity.
Nah!
You left Christianity because you chose to go your own way, LONG
before you became aware of me!
>Does the bible say anything about those who drive others out of the
faith?
The Bible says you can change churches if you need to change your
"contact" pool.
You truly don't need to look for other people to blame to shuck your
personal responsibility.
ADULTS take personal responsibility; children look for someone to
blame.
john w
>
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:19:04 GMT, Joe Bol <notreal@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:58:14 -0400, "Ralph" <mmman_90@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>You are one hell of a Christian John, you're the reason I left
Christianity.
>>Does the bible say anything about those who drive others out of the
faith?
>
>Oh, just hang around a while. It gets even worse.
If you weren't trolling, you wouldn't even be aware of me!
;-)
>
>
>PO
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christianity,alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Tammy Faye wasted away
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:35:38 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:46:25 +0100, Andrew <thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On 2007-07-23 16:58:14 +0100, "Ralph" <mmman_90@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:
>
>>
>> "john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>> news:9kl8a35441nprfdn6go7uc1tq2qi734k98@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:54:21 -0000, Charlene
>>> <charlene.vickers@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>> On Jul 22, 8:46 pm, "Brian F. Nevercene"
>>>> <bfneverc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>> I'm just trying to figure out how the death of Tammy Faye (Bakker)
>>>>> Messner fits into the fundamentalist Christian routine. I mean,
>>>>> from what they say, God gives rewards and punishment on earth. For
>>>>> example, according to fundamentalist spokesmen, 9 11 was
>>>>> punishment from God. He allowed it to happen as a reminder to
>>>>> America it was sinning.
>>>>>
>>>>> Previously, according to the spokesmen, God went a step further,
>>>>> not just allowing AIDS to happen, but creating it to punish people
>>>>> for the sin of homo***uality. All through history, plagues,
>>>>> famines, floods, and natural disasters were all the work of the
>>>>> Lord, punishment or a message. Or so said those qualified to
>>>>> interpret His will in the chaos of events.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think Tammy Faye was like that. In fact, I have a feeling
many
>>>> fundamentalists will claim Tammy Faye was punished for being more
>>>> accepting than them.
>>>
>>> I think you are overlooking some very im****tant FACTS that too many
>>> would just as soon brush under the carpet!
>>>
>>> 1. she was a liar, a cheat, and a thief. She and hubby Jimmy bilked
>>> their loyal listeners out of MILLIONS! My mother was one they
bilked!
>>> Now look up in your Bible what God has to say about thieves.
>>> Thieves don't go to heaven.
>>> She was a liar. The Bible says that liars don't go to heaven.
>>>
>>> 2. The Bible says that the Christian woman is to be MODEST. Yet Tammy
>>> Faye BRAGGED about all the makeup she CAKED on.
>>> All that makeup meant ONE thing: she was the victim of EXTREME
>>> self-loathing. How God created her to look wasn't good enough! All
>>> that makeup merely said that she believed she needed to improve on
how
>>> her Creator created her!
>>> Several Christian elders/leaders spoke to her about her LAVISH
>>> makeup and clothes. She could not have cared less.
>>> She didn't know the Bible (which Christians are required to know),
>>> so she was totally unaware of God's expectations.
>>>
>>> She made her bed with her FLAGRANT apostasies; now she gets to
>>> sleep in that bed!
>>>
>>> Think about it: She PRIDED herself on her painted, made up
>>> appearance.
>>>
>>> How she looked after being EATEN alive by cancer was WAY beyond what
>>> any makeup could cover!
>>
>> You are one hell of a Christian John, you're the reason I left
Christianity.
>> Does the bible say anything about those who drive others out of the
faith?
>
>No - but I seem to remember the phrase "Judge not, lest ye be judged".
>Oh - and wasn't there a "Let him who is without sin cast the first
>stone"? It's because of those that I stay with the faith - not the
>Johns of this world.
So, if I understand you correctly, every time your pastor (presuming
you go to church) points at you and mentions a sin you need to confess
(and you're guilty as hell, and you know it), you get up and change
churches!
I am in this world to point to the sins in the world for those who
have not noticed.
There is truly no reason for you to critique me.
You are critiquing one of God's servants!
I will face Him some day; you will, too!
john w
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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Please help - Weatherly still waiting for knock on the door
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:48:55 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:28:20 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Jul 23, 12:28 am, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> You aren't getting it! You truly should avoid commenting on the
>> posts of people you hate!
>
>I don't hate you John. Please stop projecting.
Your actions say you do. And I don't hate you, Kelly. Please stop
projecting.
john w
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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Please help - Weatherly still waiting for knock on the door
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:50:22 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:41:38 -0400, "~²ºº²~ galia ~²ºº³~"
<galia@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>news:f4m8a3p49io1e67hive7d9na42psl8bntn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:58:52 -0700, "<~(Hey,
>> WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>On Jul 22, 4:53 pm, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It remains truly scary, Phar Lap, how you continue to stalk me!
>>>> (this is illegal, dude!)
>>>
>>>It's not stalking nor is it illegal for anyone to make comments re:
>>>your public Usenet posts
>>
>> You aren't getting it! You truly should avoid commenting on the
>> posts of people you hate!
>> Your obvious bias SCREAMS!
>>
>> john w
>>
>> (when are you going to get that?).
>>>
>>
>
>No, Kelly is right! It is just your narcissistic disposition,
Ah! The psychotic wanna be psychiatrist returns!
People with little or no ego strength, no sense of self, no sense of
purpose, no real education, no real reading on their "reading lists!"
Hi, psycho wanna be psychiatrist!
john w
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>
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Subject: Re: TRINITY DOCTRINE AND SCRIPTURE?
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:52:28 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 07:39:25 -0500, Ma'at <ma'at@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:59:01 -0700, john w wrote:
>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:13:15 -0400, Gunny Freedom <glen42@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>In article <f80bk1036@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>>> Glenn <gamcclary@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Read The Bible wrote:
>>>> >> Glenn said on July 20, 8:20 am:
>>>> >> ...the doctrine of the trinity is NOT taught
>>>> >> explicitly (or implicitly) in the Old Testament.
>>>> >
>>>> > It is;
>>>>
>>>> No, your understanding is a confusion of the TERMS "One" and "God."
>>>> For a scriptural definition of these terms, see:
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2lw6ev
>>>
>>>My own understanding of the term "one" is as a singularity. There is
>>>not 'oneness' in God, for God is ONE.
>>
>> It is amusing in a sense (and yet quite tragic when one thinks about
>> it) how so many people with finite intellect (limited brainpower) try
>
>Then why are you trying to do it?
>
>> to reason and muse and deduce the divine attributes of God, who is
>> INFINITE.
>
>According to you, but as usual, you anticipate people
accepting the word of
>a known liar,
I'm not a known liar. No one has yet proved in a court of law that
the false allegations about me are "true."
john w
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.bible,alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: jw bleeting - What Does the Bible Reveal About the Trinity?
- NOTHING!
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:24:17 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:08:09 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>>The demand that they brear unwanted children - that in many countries
end
>>>up living on trash heaps, being prey for pedophiles, and being killed
by
>>>death squads. They bear those children in many cases at the expense
of
>>>the mothers health or even life
>
>> They DEMAND that India and Pakistan have NO birth control.
>
>Are you sup****ting the butchering of one's own unborn for one's own
comfort and
>convenience, jw?
My original comment that was taken out of context,
"duke", was that she opposed allowing Pakistan and India to have
BIRTH CONTROL.
No IUDs, no contraceptive pills, no condoms.
I never mentioned "abortion." YOU are the person who first mentioned
abortion.
There ARE other methods of population control besides ABORTION.
Or were you unaware of that as well?
Theresa OPPOSED India and Pakistan having ANY form of BIRTH CONTROL
WHATEVER!
Her preference was for the babies to be born and then STARVE TO DEATH!
>
>
>duke, American-American
>*****
>"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
>Pope Paul VI
>*****
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Subject: Re: jw bleeting - What Does the Bible Reveal About the Trinity?
- NOTHING!
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 05:23:06 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:05:50 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>>>Even an atheist can read the bible and accept what it says even though
he
>>>chooses not to follow it.
>> Roman Catholics read the bible and accept the words
>>>big time.
>
>> Lie! And why does a ROMAN Catholic CONTINUE to hang out in the
>>Baptist group?
>
>You all need help.
>
>>???????
>> Roman Catholics do NOT read the Bible. Nor do you "accept the
>>words" much less "big time."
>
>MASS:
>Do this in memory of me - Mat 26, Mark 14, Luke 22, 1Cor 11.
>
>SACRAMENTS:
>Baptism - John 3:5-6, Mat 28:19
>Holy Eucharist - Mat 26, Mark 14, Luke 22, 1 Cor 11.
>Confession - John 20:22-23, Mat 9:2-8
>Matrimony - Ephesians 5:31
>Confirmation - Ephesians 1:13, Acts 8:14-17, 19:5-6,
>Holy Orders - Acts 13:3 & 14:23, John 20:22, 1 & 2 Tim
>Anointing of the Sick - Mark 6:12-13, John 5:14
>
>PAPACY:
>Mat 16:13-20, Acts 15:7
You continue to give me a passage here and there that you can TWEAK
into saying something it doesn't. "Holy Orders" are not mentioned.
Anointing the Sick is certainly mentioned, but it says NOTHING about
it being effective as grace-giving.
And you sidestep DOZENS of scriptures that you IGNORE.
>
>> You for example do not respect the rights of young boys to say "No."
>
>Say what?
>
>> Scripturally, you REFUSE to baptise in the way Jesus was baptised,
>>in the manner in which He baptised others.
>
>You mean with water and the Holy Spirit?
You know what I mean. And you FLATLY refuse to deal with the plain
text.
In other words, "duke", NO HARM WHATEVER would come to YOU if you
went to the local Baptist church on Sunday and asked to be immersed as
a believing Christian.
You REFUSE to do that because it's not "Rome's way."
Even if there was a SUGGESTION that Jesus had said, "do this", I'd
make every effort to do it.
You don't "make every effort." Anything ROME says you don't have to
do, you refuse to do.
Anything ROME demands, you comply with!
You don't follow God! You follow Rome!
>
>> God COMMANDED "NO IDOLS!"
>> Yet you have erected thousands of idols in your "churches."
>
>Nope, there are NO idols in Catholic Chruches.
You are a LIAR!
I've been in half-a-dozen Catholic churches, and there were idols in
each one!
Meaning simply that, even with clear black-and-white teaching right
out of the Bible, you can't figure it out!
That's called "spiritual blindness".
And we truly don't need to waste my time with this rehash for the
hundredth time!
You are God's problem, not mine!
john w
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Why can't doc keep her word?
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:03:25 -0700
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:54:47 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 17:15:53 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> Um, duke, you seem to be talking about Elaine in terms that make one
>>think you consider her sane, normal, of sound mind, reasonable.
>>
>> I've seen NO indication of any of that!
>>
>
>'You' are of no concern to me, weatherless-
I can truly see that I don't concern you in the least!
That's why you hate me so deeply that you continue to BUTCHER my
name as if you're a 10-year old angry school girl (you may be)
and 'you' are totally
>devoid of any semblance of normalcy.
Oh! And you're the model of "normal?"
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Tammy Faye Baker Messner Dies
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:06:27 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:24:44 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Jul 23, 12:24 am, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> Evidently, Kelly and Phar Lap are both so busy with their "Hate
>> America" campaigns
>
>When did I say that I hate America?
>
>> Which-- if rational folks think about it-- was never the job of the
>> US Federal Government to begin with.
>
>Says you? LOL!!!
>
>> It's utterly amazing how the Religious/Political LEFT wants the
>> government OUT of our *** lives, out of _____, out of _____, out of
>> _____, but you then give the government a laundry list of what you DO
>> expect for your tax dollars.
>
>Yes, as a taxpayer (including property taxes) who employs every public
>official being paid with public monies, I have the right to let them
>know what I would like to see them do with my hard-earned cash.
>*They* are *my* employees, not the other way around. Based on that
>alone, yes, I *do* expect my employees to listen to what I have to say.
Fair enough! Then, so do I!
And when you and I are at polar opposites? Then what do they do?
I believe it's something called "majority rule" in this nation
still.
Meaning you and I can have our say, but if we're not the majority,
we're faceless, voiceless "minorities."
I can live with that; can you?
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist,free.christians
Subject: Re: Tammy Faye Bakker Messner Dies
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:08:04 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:38:55 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:34:56 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>x-no-archive: permission REFUSED. Post ARCHIVED so everyone can have a
good laugh!
>
>
>
>>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:32:30 -0500, "Col. Sneak"
>><colsneak@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>><~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 21, 10:10 pm, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> God is not mocked. What you reap, you sow.
>>>>
>>>> Really? Who are you quoting, Weatherly?
>>>>
>>>> Wanna try again? (maybe you got too excited about being rude, nasty
,
>>>> hateful and judgemental...)
>>>Could the stupid one have been saying, "What you reap, you pig"?
>>>Col. Sneakly
>>
>> In fact, Jimmy, YOU are the stupid one, you walking piece of pig
>>excrement!
>>
>Watch that mouth with a superior officer,
Mind your own business!
And he's not my superior officer, you loony toons!
I'm not in the military!
john w
Wa****ngton Wanker.
>The Colonel might even have you posted to cleaning LATRINES again if
>you're not careful....
>
>>>SBArmy
>>>
>>>
>Mjr. Doc
>SBArmy
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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist,free.christians
Subject: Re: Tammy Faye Bakker Messner Dies
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:10:47 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:25:53 -0400, "Scout Lady"
<scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>news:j5v7a3popuit0orcpqgdi0o5ieod3tmngm@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> While my mother scraped to feed herself and sent part of her check
>> to "Tammy Faye and Jimmy" every month!
>>
>If that is the truth then your mother didn't have both oars in the water
>either.
I'm betting you weren't the smart child in your family!
;-)
(if you are going to insult my mother...)
You-- like your new gal pal Elaine-- seem to have no limits to the
depths you won't crawl under!
There was a time I can remember when polite, mature ADULTS, didn't
insult each other's family members.
Even when a dozen of you attacked Elaine's family, I stayed out of it.
But, not you!
john w
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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist,free.christians
Subject: Re: Tammy Faye Bakker Messner Dies
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 11:14:00 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:36:50 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:34:16 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>> I am bi-polar. Common knowledge! I also have "personality
>>disorder".
>> Meaning, I'm not too good on TACT. I make up for that by being
>> HONEST (in spite of the bs being tossed about concerning me by
>>certain cretins)
>
>No 'BS' at all, liar-johnnie.
> Your lies have hit you smack in the face,
Has it ever in a million years occurred to you, Elaine, that you will
one day pay for all these HATE filled accusations?
Evidently, you think you're on a permanent "Get Out Of Jail" pass!
and you're still reeling
>from the blows.
Please monitor YOUR behaviors, and stop attempting to monitor
everyone else's!
You're out of control.
>Even by posting under other aliases such as 'jimbob' -- who wanted a
>cheap web site on which to post ****o filth - and 'JayWest', who tried
>to peddle ****...... caught up with you.
How many YEARS must you go back to come up with "ammo?" And for how
many more CENTURIES will you continue to post the same ANCIENT
accusations?
God has forgiven me my past sins; I don't need your forgiveness!
>
>So labeling us 'cretins' will NOT cover up the FACT that you're a
>pathological liar,
Actually, I'm not. And you'll have a tough time proving that in court.
snipped the hate
john w
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Attention: Concerned Christians! RE Profanity In Commercials!
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:46:32 -0700
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Attention: Concerned Christians! RE Profanity In Commercials!
Specifically, I am concerned about L'Oreal's most recent TV campaign,
featuring the beautiful actress, Diane Keaton.
There are probably only a few of you in here who would be remotely
concerned with an international product line ("L'Oreal") that allows
star spokespersons (specifically Diane Keaton, an actress I LOVE) to
use profanity in their commercials!
I have never heard any other product company,
from Rolls Royce to Mercedes Benz to K-Mart to Wal-Mart
use profanity in their commercials.
And I have not YET had the op****tunity to write down the exact words
used, but Diane Keaton is voice-overing a photo of herself, and her
words are something to the effect of, "JESUS! I never..."
It is obviously not a prayer. She's advertising L'Oreal cosmetics.
It's not a comment about her personal beliefs; last I heard, Ms Keaton
is Jewish.
It is very obvious that she (or the ad's writer) thought little enough
of the Christian market that they felt it quite "ok" to insert some
profanity into her latest commercial. Like too many, L'Oreal and Ms
Keaton evidently don't think enough Christians care enough.
I would hope and pray that enough of you-- Larry, Carl, VernonO, John
Hennekes, and others I've forgotten
-- that you'd want to write to L'Oreal and express your disapproval
and your intent to boycott L'Oreal products, and your intent to spread
the word to your families and friends, co-workers and playmates..
Some of you may recall a time in the 70s when two Midwest housewives
decided that beef prices were too high, so they launched a nation-wide
boycott of beef that quite literally brought the beef industry to the
brink.
A hundred upset Christians (you and all your buddies and families)
CAN make a difference.
And if we don't stand and let our voices be heard NOW, "When?"
Go to
www.loreal.com
You'll be directed to the correct page, depending upon where on our
globe you reside.
Thanks!
And God bless!
john w
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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: For Carl's collection of the World's worst sermons
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:36:26 -0700
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(RedFox) wrote:
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>Quote
>
>"Not long ago a member
Phar Lap, you are not required to read Carl's posts!
Dumbass!
john w
of my Jesuit community recalled that back in the
>1960s, he and his pals initiated an informal survey designed to answer
the
>following question: What was the worst homily or sermon ever preached?
>
>When he announced this wholly diversionary contest to various friends,
>responses poured in, as he said, "from around the globe." There were
>fruits from a variety of sources: priests, women religious, theology
>students, lay preachers and the like.
>
>My first reaction was that this would be a nearly impossible category to
>judge. Wouldn't one need to recall accurately a homily from years
before?
>Would the Worst Homily (or sermon, I use the term interchangeably) have
to
>be poorly conceived, poorly delivered, and poorly understood, or would
>just one of these requirements suffice?
>
>As I listened to my friend's memories of this contest, however, it
quickly
>became clear that notion of the Worst Homily hinged instead on a
>particular insight or phrase that so impressed itself on the listener's
>ear as to be irremovable or at least unforgettable. This made the
contest
>eminently easier to judge.
>
>"So what was the winner?" I asked.
>
>The Worst Homily, he declared, was one in which the homilist turned his
>attention to the question of salvation. (And, believe it or not, the
>following stories are neither fictional nor intended to be irreverent.
All
>were actual homilies.) "The death of Jesus was pre-ordained by God for
our
>salvation," explained the homilist, "and the person who understood this
>better than anyone was Mary. In fact," he continued, "Mary was so intent
>on our salvation that, if the centurions hadn't nailed Jesus to the
cross,
>Mary herself would have done so."
>
>"You're kidding," I said.
>
>"Ha!" said another Jesuit. "That's nothing." He then related the tale of
a
>priest concelebrating a Mass, who heard the presider note in his homily
>that Mary was so powerful that she could "rescue anyone whom God had
>condemned to hell." After Mass, the presider asked the priest how he had
>enjoyed the homily. In response, he gently expressed surprise at the
>presider's comments about Mary. "Oh, of course, that was incorrect,"
said
>the homilist. "What I meant to say was that Mary can rescue from hell
>anyone who was unjustly condemned by God," leaving the concelebrant now
>even more perplexed about the existence of an unjust God.
>
>Another friend recounted a story of a Christmas Eve homily he had heard
>years before, on the very Christmas-y topic of contraception. "Reflect
for
>a moment," thundered the preacher, "what would have happened if Mary had
>used birth control!"
>
>Now, all of this could be seen as a sad commentary on the state of
>Catholic preaching. (Or, likewise, the sorry state of the understanding
of
>the theology surrounding Mary.) But it should be noted that all of these
>samples are taken from many years back and there has been a renewed
>emphasis recently on preaching in Catholic seminaries and theology
>schools. So such homilies (I hope) are on the wane.
>
>Ironically, then, hearing these stories can prompt gratitude: `Boy, at
>least mine aren't that bad.' Likewise, if you're sitting in the pews on
a
>regular basis, you might think: `At least the preaching here is better
>than that.'
>
>After hearing these stories, I decided to start collecting my own Worst
>Homilies (that is, of course, not including ones I have delivered
myself).
>Since then I have heard of homilists preaching about abortion at a
>confirmation, terminal illness at a marriage, and--my personal
>favorite--contraception in a nursing home. "Who did he think he was
>preaching to?" said the bemused senior citizen.
>
>Last year, while visiting a community of elderly women religious, I was
>told of a priest celebrating Mass in their house who had preached on the
>quote, "Go and sin no more." Father suggested that what Jesus really
meant
>was, "Go and sin no more, or something bad will happen to you."
>
>The homilist then proceeded to, as one of my theology professors liked
to
>say, "actualize" the text for this group of middle-aged sisters. "And if
>any of you sisters sin and break your vows of chastity...you'll get
>venereal disease!"
>
>As the women laughed over this memory, one eighty-year-old sister said,
>"Maybe he knew something we didn't!"
>
>
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Weatherly Is Back On His Meds
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:35:46 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:56:24 -0500,
walksalone@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>In <63g8a3lanh0iujobkiee9k3rm2nsrcb39u@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, on 07/22/07
> at 10:46 PM, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> staggered to center stage &
>in a typical presentation verified that indeed there may be a real
>illness on his part, one apparently associated with his diet.
>
>
>
>>x-no-archive: yes
>>On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:28:39 +0000 (UTC), walksalone
>><spamstopper@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
>>>news:h055a3lns0jb3i2maq593e3788b7vhkrq5@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
allowed as it was high
time
>>>he returned to his fractured version of reality, & a fine job he does
of it
>>>as well.
>>>
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:03:43 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:04:04 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Go away, demoniac!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>OTC - 'you' go away, weatherless.
>>>>>
>>>>>It was soooooooooooo pleasant with you gone for a few days.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I note with mild amusement that AGAIN, you feel quite free to
speak
>>>> for everyone!
>>>
>>>It is even funnier that you automatically assume that she tries to
speak
>>>for everyone, But then, reading English is very hard for you. A bit
like
>>>speaking language I suppose.
>
>
>Poor baby, did someone rub your nose
You don't need to worry about me, you escapee from a psycho ward!
You should perhaps worry that someone in your "circle" who you piss
off will some day pound you into the concrete!
;-)
john w
in your mess, bad dog, no biscuit
>for you.
>
>>Why don't you go back to eating rat feces like you were before you read
>>my post, you mental defective!
>
>So, you are into eating rat feces then, as well as being mentally
>defective. The defective part I was aware of, but the rat ****, do you
>use mustard with it? Or do you munch it like roasted peanuts? Perhaps
>you prefer them prepared in the Southern style, boiled? In any event,
>your culinary habits are not mine.
>
>> When you were parachuting out of helos back there in "Nam!", you must
>>have left most of your brain in a pungi stick!
>
>Who jumped in Nam, you? Never pretended to have done that for I was not
>one of those individuals that needed the star. As to what I did, that
>is no concern of yours & not a subject for discussion with the likes of
>you. Like now, you would only ty to sully it by trying to bring it down
>to your level of *service*.
>
>> I'm betting the Army unit you were in back when would be DAMN proud of
>
>Units are neither proud, nor sad. But then, given your *war record*,
>there is no surprise in you not knowing that, or much of anything when
>it comes to military duty.
>
>>the sour, bitter, angry, psycho you are today!
>
>Speaking on your own behalf for a change? Accurate description of your
>posting history I will admit. But then, what can one expect from a male
>with a fan club of one, itself.
>
>>:-)
>
>Now what was it you claim your gods don't like, other than liars like
>you just have shown yourself to be that is?
>
>>john w
>
>
>which wannabe this time johnniiee, the one that thinks it is so special
>that even the gods believe it, & knowing full well that they don't, he
>pretends they do anyway? You are nothing but a self made loser, & that
>is the best you have done on usenet to date.
>
>>>> chuckle.
>>>
>>>Yes, fools often laugh at their blunders.
>>>
>>>>> Need help packing? I'll even hold the door for you as you exit.
>>>
>>>whichg wannabe this time johnniiee, the clown that just fininshed
reading
>>>*reading for dummies*, & forgot the title?
>>>
>>>
>>>walksalone who would find the above funny if it were not so routine.
But
>>>then, does jw have the capacity for original thought, has anyone ever
seen
>>>such a thing?
>>>
>>>
>>>Do we remember this, why yes, we do.
>>>
>>>Thanks, Doc!
>>>
>>>AGAIN, you make my points better than I did! How do you keep doing
>>>that?
>>>jw 22 Dec 2002
>
>
>walksalone who has no shock involved when johnniiee imagines others
>behave like he does, or enjoys the same food he does. He is to self
>centered to do otherwise, as his posting history indicates & verifies.
>
>
>Verification of the strange thought process of the usenet loser known as
>jw
>
>I am not politically correct, and I could care less if I offend those
>who are. I have said it repeatedly, and in case you hadn't heard, I am
>a 50 + white male, and I have African American foster parents whom I
>love like my own parents.
> jw
>
>20 Jan
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Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Please help - Weatherly still waiting for knock on the door
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:28:57 -0700
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 16:58:52 -0700, "<~(Hey,
WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" <ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>On Jul 22, 4:53 pm, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>> It remains truly scary, Phar Lap, how you continue to stalk me!
>> (this is illegal, dude!)
>
>It's not stalking nor is it illegal for anyone to make comments re:
>your public Usenet posts
You aren't getting it! You truly should avoid commenting on the
posts of people you hate!
Your obvious bias SCREAMS!
john w
(when are you going to get that?).
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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: The Faith Of Temmy Faye
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:27:18 -0700
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 02:42:39 GMT, Joe Bol <notreal@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
© 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
>For years and years, Tammy Faye and her husband bilked thousands of
>little-ole-ladies out of millions of dollars based on faith. Faith in
>Christ, faith in Jim and Tammy, faith that God would multiply their
>seed faith.
>
>Yet, when her "faith" had to be tested she failed completely. When
>Larry Kind asked her about the doctors telling her how much time she
>had, Tammy Faye, the great woman of faith told the American public"
>
>"I asked them not to tell me, I don't want me faith level to go down."
>
>I don't want my faith level to go down???
>
>Whatever happened to that great faith that gave her multiple homes and
>cars?? What happened to that great faith that gave her an air
>conditioned dog house? What happened to that faith?
>
>Now they are touting how wonderful Tammy Fay was
Who is "touting her?"
smirk.
and how her strength
>had give her faith.
>
>Tammy Faye was shallow, a money-raseing puppet who could cry at the
>drop of a hat and she would bring her own hat and drop it.
>
>Tammy Faye was NO woman of faith.
>
>KL
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Subject: Re: Tammy Faye wasted away
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:24:41 -0700
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<charlene.vickers@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>On Jul 22, 8:46 pm, "Brian F. Nevercene"
><bfneverc...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> I'm just trying to figure out how the death of Tammy Faye (Bakker)
>> Messner fits into the fundamentalist Christian routine. I mean,
>> from what they say, God gives rewards and punishment on earth. For
>> example, according to fundamentalist spokesmen, 9 11 was
>> punishment from God. He allowed it to happen as a reminder to
>> America it was sinning.
>>
>> Previously, according to the spokesmen, God went a step further,
>> not just allowing AIDS to happen, but creating it to punish people
>> for the sin of homo***uality. All through history, plagues,
>> famines, floods, and natural disasters were all the work of the
>> Lord, punishment or a message. Or so said those qualified to
>> interpret His will in the chaos of events.
>
>I don't think Tammy Faye was like that. In fact, I have a feeling many
>fundamentalists will claim Tammy Faye was punished for being more
>accepting than them.
I think you are overlooking some very im****tant FACTS that too many
would just as soon brush under the carpet!
1. she was a liar, a cheat, and a thief. She and hubby Jimmy bilked
their loyal listeners out of MILLIONS! My mother was one they bilked!
Now look up in your Bible what God has to say about thieves.
Thieves don't go to heaven.
She was a liar. The Bible says that liars don't go to heaven.
2. The Bible says that the Christian woman is to be MODEST. Yet Tammy
Faye BRAGGED about all the makeup she CAKED on.
All that makeup meant ONE thing: she was the victim of EXTREME
self-loathing. How God created her to look wasn't good enough! All
that makeup merely said that she believed she needed to improve on how
her Creator created her!
Several Christian elders/leaders spoke to her about her LAVISH
makeup and clothes. She could not have cared less.
She didn't know the Bible (which Christians are required to know),
so she was totally unaware of God's expectations.
She made her bed with her FLAGRANT apostasies; now she gets to
sleep in that bed!
Think about it: She PRIDED herself on her painted, made up
appearance.
How she looked after being EATEN alive by cancer was WAY beyond what
any makeup could cover!
>
>wd43
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Subject: Re: Tammy Faye Baker Messner Dies
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