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by walksalone <spamstopper@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 11, 2008 at 01:40 PM

>>>>>>   You don't need to worry about my issues, BB!
>>>>>>   You need to worry about your own.
>>>>>>   But-- frankly-- as I have said before-- 
>>>>>>     #1 Rod isn't interested in my help
>>>>>     I know people that need your help AND your vote
>>>>>     will make a difference !
>>>>>
>>>>>     Several of us, former republicans, democrats, greens, 
libertarians
>>>>>     are banding togather as a force to stop the major parties in 
there
>>>>>     tracks and take back our country.
>>>>>
>>>>>     You won't find a single person in the entire group that isn't
>>>>>     able to understand what happening to our country and our people 
!
>>>>>
>>>>>     If you, or anyone you know wants to take a bite out of 
corruption
>>>>>     and greed, www.unity08.com is a place to start for all the info
>>>>>     you cam swallow.
>>>>>
>>>>>     I signed up with them because they are people that want to go
>>>>>     where I am wanting to go, or I wouldn't sup****t them. I need
>>>>>     them as much as they need me, no one can do this alone....
>>>>     You punch me, you slap me, you kick me in the balls, you bite 
me;
>>>
>>>       Bite you ? No.....that would be like biting a cloth bag
>>>       filled with dirt....
>> 
>>    Teaching a lesson-- making a point-- using metaphor, stupid person!
>>    I don't believe anyone BUT you took that EXACTLY literally!
>> 
>>    I also note that INSTEAD of responding to my point about your
>> VICIOUS verbal attacks, you choose -- instead -- to very childishly
>> attack how I said the point I made!
>> 
>>   "mature!"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>> you call me every low name you can think of:  homo, coward, idiot,
>>>> insane...  and those are the nice ones,
>>>    And it's YOU are innocent of those things as well, eh ????
>> 
>>     So, what you're saying is, that rather than responding (being
>> responsible) for the accusations (all true) that I made about you, you
>> say "Well, look at what YOU did!"
>> 
>>    You will never get proper psychiatric help until you admit you have
>> rage issues.
>> 
>>   I have LONG since admitted my anger issues and am being treated.
>> There are very few people in here who don't have unresolved anger
>> issues.
>> 
>>   That very thing all by itself will twist your world and your world
>> view, and it will eventually KILL you!
>> 
>>   Every day you live your life in denial of your rage is a day you
>> very deliberately SHORTEN your life by REFUSING to seek or accept
>> help.
>> 
>>  I very kindly offered to forget the **** storm you've sent MY way,
>> and to try to "help you get your ""message"" out!"
>> 
>>   What did you do?  YOu attacked me!
>
>   I corrected you.

    You "corrected"  nothing!  I didn't say anything that was
incorrect.

    However, you continue to stomp your foot and DEMAND, "We'll do it
MY way, DAMNIT!  Or we won't do it at all!"

  I offered you what help I had to offer.  It is only YOU who have
decided that what you had to say isn't worth reading.

  "fine!"

 I didn't want to be deceived into believing it was
>   a literary work,

  You quite simply can't accept the opinions of others. SEVERAL of us
suggested that your "notes" could be turned into an article and place
for MILLIONS to read.

  You refused, because "that wasn't YOUR idea!"
  That doesn't mean the idea doesn't haev merit, it's just not how YOU
choose to proceed!

  "Fair enough!"  Count me OUT!

 because from my point of view it isn't.

   And-- once again-- to put the point on the pencil, 

   ONLY YOUR point of view matters!  


   10 professionals could advise you on how to proceed, (and several
did).

  But that's not what YOU intended, so we can all go to hell!

  Fair enough!  I am no longer involved!  For the 10th time!


 Go back and
>   read the post again !

   I've read it several times, and I -- as well as several others--
felt the idea deserved a wider audience.


   If you think your idea is CRAP, why post it to begin with?

   It's called "you are ego-centric".

  You are the center of the Universe you know!

   Only your point of view has any relevance!


 You're turning a molemound into mountain again !

   If you want to call the ideas you expressed a "molemound", 
   "it works for me."

  Bottom line, Rod, 
      
  No matter the topic,
         "Rod MUST BE RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING!"


   I won't send you a bill!


>
>
>> 
>>   One thing we learn from the past is that some people learn NOTHING
>> from their past behavior!
>> 
>> 
>>    Rod, you TRULY do not need to continue to verbally assault me and
>> threaten me.  As many threats as I've made to physically assault
>> someone in the past 6 YEARS, you've made more than that # of threats
>> in the past couple of DAYS.
>
>   GOOD ! Has it given you a slight hint as to how it makes others feel
>   when you do it to them ? Thats why I've done it, to teach you a hard
>   lesson ! Has it finally taken hold after three days ? Have you had
>   just a little taste of what it feels like to be on the receiving end
>   of a threat ? I hope so.
>
>
>> 
>>  And I'm certain that you're not finished!
>
>   That probably means that you are not done making threats
>   against other people....but you can relax. I really did
>   want to split your lip and put a knot on your head, but
>   I had no idea you were that old and in that bad of physical
>   shape. I feel very bad about saying those things now because
>   of your condition, but the next person that you provoke may
>   not be so kindly disposed to your state of health.
>
>
>
>
>>  If I were to contact the
>> police "because you are breaking the law by making such threats", you
>> don't believe you'd spend some time in the local cooler?
>
>   Feel free to do what you need to.
>
>
>> 
>> AGAIN,
>>     "My offer of help is withdrawn."
>> 
>>    Get over it!
>
>   I was over it before you exhibited your stupidity...
>
>> 
>> 
>>>>  and then you come up with this cause...
>
>      I come up with this "cause" ? Sure, I dreamed up a nationwide
>      problem all by myself, and imposed it upon society because I am
>      the devil.............their really are no homeless, indigent
>      peoples, it's just another mass delusion that liberals are
>      suffering from........perhaps you would be so kind as to explain
>      to the elderly and the homeless that their predicament isn't real
>      and that they actually possess all kinds of money, and that the
>      paper box they are sweating in this summer is actually air
>      conditioned with a comfortable couch.
>
>      I'm sure that your "realities" will be received with all the 
credit
>      they merit.......
>
>
>
>>>>
>>>>   And you ask for my help.
>
>        I ask you to have the presence of mind to help yourself,
>        but instead, because of me you bite your nose off to spite
>        your face.
>
>
>
>>>>
>>>>      "You gotta be kidding!"
>>>>
>>>>     I wouldn't help YOU row a life raft!
>
>        Then you would find your "butt" in the water as a sharks next
>        meal.
>


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Subject: Re: An example of BB's "spiritual discernment"
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:42:04 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
 © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:25:12 GMT, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>  © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> <~(Hey, WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~> wrote:
>>>> On Jul 11, 1:08 pm, "Rod" <kc0...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>    I'm not certain that you are Christian, I'm
>>>>> definitely not
>>>> Here's another perfect testimony to "Bible" Bob's spiritual
>>>> discernment...
>>>   No Kelly, it's a testimony about your refusal to speak all the 
truth,
>> 
>>     Some truth to that!
>> 
>>>   and about an op****tunity for you to tear into another human being
>>>   when you have an axe to grind.
>> 
>>      ????  So, Rod, are you saying that   ^ ^ is only ok when YOU do
>> it?
>
>   Not at all ! It's another natural consequence, action and reaction,
>   it just isn't all right to deny it when YOU know for fact that is 
your
>   main motive for doing it.
    
    You need to go back and re-read what you just said! What you have
just said is that *I* don't know why I said what I said, but YOU DO!

  That's called "delusional thinking."

  I know precisely why I say what I say.
  
  And if that's the sort of "lie" you're accusing me of, you are quite
psychotic!



 Thats known as lying...Weatherly, but you
>   KNOW that !
>
>> 
>>   Gotcha!
>
>     Gotcha back, you anal fixated jerk !
>
>    Rod


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Subject: Re: John Weatherly "A Layman Looks at The Bible" Chapter One
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 18:21:10 -0700
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:58:54 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (RedFox) wrote:
 © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>In article <llib9394tp04qnj18m6gr64itigjbi39sb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>> Who knows?  Next time you need a tow, you might end up with a Southern
>> Baptist with a tow truck!
>> 
>> It would be interesting to see how long you ridicule the "fish" symbol
>> on the door of his truck!
>> 
>> john w
>
> Why would we ridicule the fish symbol - in any case I have nothing
>against Jesus - 

only the fools that have distorted his memory .

  Oh! Like YOU, you mean!

:-)


>
>As to the sight of the fish symbol on a truck - I wonder if the symbol 
on
>a vehicle has the same effect on people driving behind in America as it
>has here.
>
>The fish symbol on a car rear window here means:
>
> "keep clear - any moment I will jam my anchors on despite my present
>crawling speed.  
>
>I will then indicate I am about to turn in one direction but will 
actually
>turn in the opposite direction - if necessary cutting across a vehicle
>travelling in the opposing direction and nearly collecting them on my
>plastic bull bar"
>
>Should I  run into trouble I will expect you to ram your vehicle up my
>arse and will demonstrate my love of Jesus by forgiving you your
>tresp*****.  
>
>Drive safely
>
>My eyes may APPEAR to be on the road but my thoughts are entirely in
>heaven.  Don't mistake my glazed silly look and smile for the effect of
>drugs"


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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:17:55 -0700, r@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (•R L Measures) wrote:
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>, john w
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>
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:28:49 -0700, r@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (•R L Measures) wrote:
>>  © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>> >In article <ObydnfR6xO2hsQvbnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, "Jim"
>> ><jim@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "arah" <arah1958@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote (in part)
>> >> 
>> >> > Conclusion
>> >> > The Church recognises the Bible as the primary source of 
knowledge
>> >> > about God and Jesus. But since the Bible makes it clear that 
Jesus is
>> >> > not the Supreme Being and the Supreme Being is not Jesus, upon 
what
>> >> > basis have you come to believe otherwise?
>> >> >
>> >> > The belief that the Supreme Being is a Trinity is false and 
completely
>> >> > inconsistent with the words of Jesus as presented in the Bible. 
God is
>> >> > one, not three. He is a perfect unity.
>> >> 
>> >> I'm sorry, Arah, but your conclusion only shows your ignorance of 
both the 
>> >> Holy Bible and the faith of the Christian church.  Since the New 
Testament 
>> >> Scriptures are written entirely by the Christian church foaunders 
(the 
>> >> apostles chosen by Jesus Christ Himself) ...
>> >
>> >**  It is my opinion that none of the presently accepted scriptures 
that
>> >comprise the NT were written by an apostle of the itinerant 1st 
century
>> >rabbi who called himself "the Son of man." 
>> >
>> >
>> >**  "Unlearned in history, they allow themselves to be governed by 
the
>> >Unknown Past."
>> >Historian John Acton
>> 
>>   Then you, and the "historian" would both be wrong!
>> 
>**  Whistling in the dark.

  I still trust my sources more than yours.
   I wonder if your "historian", "John Acton" reads Hebrew or Greek.
  I bet he does not!



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Subject: Re: St ****o injured in fish and chip shop incident
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 (RedFox) wrote:
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><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>>  I myself was a battered husband.
>
>
>
>
>Incidentally how come she ended up with the restraining order and 
custody?
>
>Seems the Court viewed the evidence differently

 The court didn't "view the evidence", period!

And I wonder why you seem so extremely interested!!

 What's up with that?

  You know, as obsessed as you are with me, it's either puppy love, or
you are psychotic!

  Either is sad.

>
>God Bless!


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Subject: Re: John Weatherly "A Layman Looks at The Bible" Chapter One
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 11:27:37 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:34:05 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>  Thanks, Rodney!  It's always good to know I'm good for a laugh!  I
>>like making people laugh!
>>
>
>Every post makes everybody laugh - 

  ????  AGAIN, Elaine!  You pretend that you speak for the entire
population of the planet!

And how many more MILLIONS of times are you going to make such
psychotic, UNTRUE statements?

 I and the rest of the folks in here got your POV after the first
1,000 times!

 
AT you, though, not with...
>
>>  And, to return the compliment, just about everything you write
>>cracks me up, too!
>
>You've been cracked for decades.

   I continue to not understand how such comments  ^ ^  glorify God!

  (they don't!)

    You should truly not comment in such a manner, since you are
probably the person about whom the comment was made, "You are
cracked!"

  Your pathological hatred is not pretty!




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Subject: Re: HOW CAN JESUS BE GOD?
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 06:28:49 -0700, r@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (•R L Measures) wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>In article <ObydnfR6xO2hsQvbnZ2dnUVZ_gqdnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>> "arah" <arah1958@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote (in part)
>> 
>> > Conclusion
>> > The Church recognises the Bible as the primary source of knowledge
>> > about God and Jesus. But since the Bible makes it clear that Jesus 
is
>> > not the Supreme Being and the Supreme Being is not Jesus, upon what
>> > basis have you come to believe otherwise?
>> >
>> > The belief that the Supreme Being is a Trinity is false and 
completely
>> > inconsistent with the words of Jesus as presented in the Bible. God 
is
>> > one, not three. He is a perfect unity.
>> 
>> I'm sorry, Arah, but your conclusion only shows your ignorance of both 
the 
>> Holy Bible and the faith of the Christian church.  Since the New 
Testament 
>> Scriptures are written entirely by the Christian church foaunders (the 
>> apostles chosen by Jesus Christ Himself) ...
>
>**  It is my opinion that none of the presently accepted scriptures that
>comprise the NT were written by an apostle of the itinerant 1st century
>rabbi who called himself "the Son of man." 
>
>
>**  "Unlearned in history, they allow themselves to be governed by the
>Unknown Past."
>Historian John Acton

  Then you, and the "historian" would both be wrong!

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Subject: Re: HOW CAN JESUS BE GOD?
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:15:43 -0700, arah <arah1958@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
 © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>We often heard the claim that Jesus is God, the second person in the
>"Holy Trinity". However, the very Bible which is used as a basis for
>knowledge about Jesus and as the basis for doctrine within
>Christianity clearly belies this claim.

  No, it doesn't!

  Jesus claimed to be God! The apostles said He is God!
  The prophets said the Messiah Christ would be God.

  The Revelation of St John ("Revelation") says He is God.

  It is Satan and only Satan telling you that Jesus is not God!

john w

>
>We urge all Christians to check your own Bible and verify that the
>following conclusions are not drawn out of context:
>
>1. God Is All Knowing.....But Jesus Was Not
>
>When speaking of the Day of Judgement, Jesus clearly gave evidence of
>a limitation on his knowledge when he said, "But of that day and hour
>knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the
>son, but the Father." (Mark 13:32 and Matt. 24:36) But God knows all.
>His knowledge is without any limitations. That Jesus, of his own
>admission, did not know when the Day of Judgement would be, is clear
>proof that Jesus is not all-knowing, and that Jesus is therefore not
>God.
>
>2. God Is All-Powerful.....But Jesus Was Not
>
>While Jesus performed many miracles, he himself admitted that the
>power he had was not his own but was derived from God when he said,
>"Verily, verily I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but
>what he seeth the Father do..." (John 5:19). Again he said, "I can of
>mine own self do nothing: as I hear I judge: and my judgement is just;
>because I seek not mine own will but the will of the Father which has
>sent me." (John 5:30) But God is not only All-Powerful, He is also the
>source of all power and authority. That Jesus, of his own admission,
>could do nothing on his own is clear proof that Jesus is not all-
>powerful, and that therefore Jesus is not God.
>
>3. God Does Not Have A God.....But Jesus Did Have A God
>
>God is the ultimate judge and refuge for all, and He does not call
>upon nor pray to any others. But Jesus acknowledged that there was One
>whom he wor****pped and to Whom he prayed when he said, "I ascend unto
>my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God." (John 20:17).
>He is also re****ted to have cried out while on the cross, "My God, my
>God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt. 27:46). If Jesus were God,
>then couldn't this be read, "Myself, myself, why hast thou forsaken
>me?". Would that not be pure nonsense? When Jesus prayed the Lord's
>Prayer (Luke 11:2-4), was he praying to himself? When in the garden of
>Gethsemane he prayed, "O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup
>pass from me: nevertheless, not as I will but as thou wilt." (Matt.
>26:36). Was Jesus praying to himself? That Jesus, of his own admission
>and by his own actions, acknowledged, wor****pped, and prayed to
>another being as God is clear proof that Jesus himself is not God.
>
>According to the Bible, God is an invisible spirit....
>
>4. But Jesus Was Flesh And Blood
>
>While thousands saw Jesus and heard his voice, Jesus himself said that
>this could not be done with God when he said: "No man hath seen God at
>any time." (John 1:18). "Ye have neither heard His voice at any time
>nor seen His shape." (John 5:37) He also said in John 4:24: "God is a
>spirit and they that wor****p Him must wor****p Him in spirit and in
>truth." That Jesus would say that no one had seen or heard God at any
>time, while his followers both saw and heard him, is clear proof that
>Jesus was not God.
>
>NO ONE IS GREATER THAN GOD AND NO ONE CAN DIRECT HIM...
>BUT JESUS ACKNOWLEDGED
>SOMEONE GREATER THAN HIMSELF WHOSE...
>
>5. Will Was Distinct From His Own
>
>Perhaps the clearest indication we have that Jesus and God are not
>equal, and therefore not one and the same, comes again from the mouth
>of Jesus himself who said in John 14:28: "My Father is greater than
>I." When someone referred to him as a good master in Luke 18:19, Jesus
>responded: "Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is
>God..." Furthermore, Jesus drew clear distinctions between himself and
>God when he said, "I proceeded forth and came from God, neither came I
>of myself but He sent me." (John 8:42) Jesus gave clear evidence of
>his subordination to God, rather than his equality with God, when he
>said in Luke 22:42, "not my will but Thine be done" and in John 5:30,
>"I seek not mine own will but the will of the Father which has sent
>me." That Jesus would admit that he did not come into the world on his
>own initiative but was directed to do so, that he would acknowledge
>another being as greater than himself, and that he would negate his
>own will in deference to affirming the will of another, give clear
>proof that Jesus is not the Supreme One and therefore Jesus is not
>God.
>
>Conclusion
>The Church recognises the Bible as the primary source of knowledge
>about God and Jesus. But since the Bible makes it clear that Jesus is
>not the Supreme Being and the Supreme Being is not Jesus, upon what
>basis have you come to believe otherwise?
>
>The belief that the Supreme Being is a Trinity is false and completely
>inconsistent with the words of Jesus as presented in the Bible. God is
>one, not three. He is a perfect unity.
>
>If you are interested in the truth about God and your relation****p to
>Him, we invite you to investigate the religion of Islam.
>
>What Is The Word Of God About Jesus:
>
>
>A. Regarding The Son****p Of Jesus:
>"Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth about
>which they (vainly) dispute. It is not befitting to (the majesty of)
>Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! When He determines
>a matter He only says to it "Be" and it is."
>Chapter 19, Verses 34-35
>
>"They say: "(Allah) Most Gracious has begotten a son!" Indeed ye have
>put forth a thing most monstrous! At if the skies are ready to burst
>the earth to split asunder and the mountains to fall down in utter
>ruin. That they should invoke a son for (Allah) Most Gracious. For it
>is not consonant with the majesty of (Allah) Most Gracious that He
>should beget a son. Not one of the beings in the heavens and the earth
>but must come to (Allah) Most Gracious as a servant."
>Chapter 19, Verses 88-93
>
>"This similitude of Jesus before Allah is as that of Adam: He created
>him from dust then said to him: "Be" and he was."
>Chapter 3, Verse 59
>
>"O people of the Book! commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of
>Allah aught but truth. Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than)
>an Apostle of Allah and His Word which He bestowed on Mary and a
>Spirit proceeding from Him: so believe in Allah and His Apostles. Say
>not "Trinity": desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is One
>Allah: glory be to him: (for Exalted is He) above having a son. To Him
>belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is Allah as
>a Disposer of affairs."
>Chapter 4, Verse 171
>
>B. Regarding Jesus Being God:
>"And behold! Allah will say "O Jesus the son of Mary! didst thou say
>unto men `wor****p me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah"? He
>will say: "Glory to Thee! never could I say what I had no right (to
>say). Had I said such a thing Thou wouldst indeed have known it. Thou
>knowest what is in my heart though I know not what is in Thine. For
>Thou knowest in full all that is hidden. "Never said I to them aught
>except what Thou didst command me to say to wit `Wor****p Allah my Lord
>and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst
>them; when Thou didst take me up thou wast the Watcher over them and
>Thou art a Witness to all things." Chapter 5, Verses 116-117
>
>C. Regarding Crucifixion Of Jesus
>
>"That they rejected faith: that they uttered against Mary a grave
>false charge. That they said (in boast) "We killed Christ Jesus the
>son of Mary the Apostle of Allah"; but they killed him not nor
>crucified him but so it was made to appear to them and those who
>differ therein are full of doubts with no (certain) knowledge but only
>conjecture to follow for of a surety they killed him not. Nay Allah
>raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power Wise. And
>there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before
>his death; and on the Day of Judgment He will be a witness against
>them."
>Chapter 4, Verses 156-159


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Subject: Re: Liar Weatherless insists he's committed 'no crime'...
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> wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:23:37 GMT, "Rod" <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>  © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> "john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message 
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>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:23:06 GMT, "Rod" <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> "john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 03:28:11 GMT, "Rod" <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this 
post
>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the 
author.
>>>>>>> <NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>>>>>>> On Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:55:42 -0400, "Scout Lady" 
<scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is not US law it is state law in Arizona and John lives in
>>>>>>>>> Wa****ngton
>>>>>>>>> state where it is not illegal to posess, publish or sell *****c
>>>>>>>>> literature.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the info. I was searching for USA law and criminal 
code,
>>>>>>>> and had a difficult time finding it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you know where I can find SEATTLE Criminal Code please?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Elaine; here is the link for Wa****ngton state statutes...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?Cite=9
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I'll remember you, you psycho!
>>>>>     Is this where I should feel threatened and foul my drawers ?
>>>>> <smiling.......>
>>>>   Why is it you lowbrow retards are allways thinking in terms of
>>>> "death threats?"  and bar room brawls?
>>>    Possibly because some little bit of satisfaction can be gleaned 
from
>>>    splitting your lip or putting a bowknot on your head.
>> 
>>   For all the rhetoric, no one (including you) has managed to do that
>> yet!
>>   Makes me think that every one who has threatened such nonsense
>> (including you) is full of ... well... you know.
>> 
>>  Calling names,
>>    And yet, you feel quite free to call me all sorts of names, like
>> "coward."
>> 
>>>    telling lies,
>>    Yet, you can't point to one single lie I've told.
>
>    Allow me to quote you, "I am not stupid." That is a lie,
>    and in fact that is one lie in a mountain of lies.
>
>  Those are all
>> ASSUMPTIONS because I choose to not PROVE everything I say.
>>   We are merely of a different mindset, stupid one.
>> 
>>  threatening people with legal suits 
>> 
>>   Last I talked with my attorney and with my case worker, it is
>> advisable before I sue you for your house, your retirement fund, and
>> your car, to advise you to "cease and desist."
>>   If you refuse to heed such warning, you have only you to blame!
>> 
>> and death threats
>> 
>>   I will allow you to believe that, and I will allow you to PROVE to a
>> judge that I have been uttering death threats in the past year.
>> 
>>  If you are stupid enough to allow other equally stupid people to tell
>> you my words are "death threats", go right ahead.
>> 
>>  Just, dumb one, good luck proving it!
>> 
>> ;-)
>>   I have a list of professionals who will testify otherwise!
>> 
>>   The people who actually KNOW me know I'm not prone to violence.
>
>    And Ted Bundy was entirely innocent and Lady Chatterly is not a
>    ****......  
   Again, Rod!  Your twisted non-reason, your paranoia, your delusions
aside, IF you BOTHERED to check around the country-- the different
states I've lived, you would not find me on any registries.

  The MOST you would find is that I have an anger problem, and I am
dealing with it.

  The RECORD shows (contrary to your inflammatory, pathological,
delusional, paranoid rhetoric), that I am not a violent person.

So you can take your delusions and your paranoia and put a buck in the
pot, and try to buy a cup of coffee!


>
>> 
>>  just
>>>    doesn't have the same attraction for me as it does for cowards 
like
>>>    you.
>>>  
>>   Now, that just plain hurt!
>> 
>>   You wanted a lie,   ^ ^  you got one!
>> 
>>>>  I was referring to legal action, you redneck moron!
>>>    And we would know that you are inferring that because ....?
>> 
>>    Because I've said it a dozen times.
>> 
>>  Getting you to believe me is not at the top of my "To Do" list.
>
>     <smiling....>

   Uncalled for leering is one of the symptoms of untreated pathology.

  And you have once again wasted your allotment of time.

john w

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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:40:20 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:38:49 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>So I am very selective in what I answer, and in WHO I answer.
>
>
>The CORRECT terminology would be 'TO WHOM I ANSWER', O wannabe
>writer...

  The correct terminology would be "Oh, want-to-be-a writer!"

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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 11:39:46 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:38:49 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
>
>>Each of us free in this forum to post 
>
>
>Then why did you insist that Kelly 'didn't belong here' and should not
>post?

  Why do you keep demanding that I stop posting?

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>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: Liar Weatherless insists he's committed 'no crime'...
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:05:18 -0700
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:47:52 -0400, "Scout Lady"
<scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
><larry4355@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>news:fla993hflrtu450992aj8hje0lsjvttat3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:04:12 -0500, CB <country2000@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:25:15 -0400, larry4355@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:28:42 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 00:41:14 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Nay!  Don't give him too much credit.
>>>>>>  He comes in here only to make noise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Like 'you', weatherless?
>>>>>
>>>>>>  I call him "Tweety."  Noisy and silly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>john w
>>>>>And many of US call 'you:
>>>>>
>>>>>liar-johnnie
>>>>>sun****ne-boi
>>>>>qwene liar
>>>>>St. ****o
>>>>>papa-****
>>>>>short-bus johnnie
>>>>>numbnuts
>>>>>The Seattle Psycho
>>>>>The Wa****ngton Wanker
>>>>>
>>>>>among other delightful nicknames you've earned all by yourself.
>>>>
>>>>And this makes you Christian how?
>>>>And this brings honor and glory to God how?
>>>
>>>How you been mr self righteousness?
>>>PLease tell us of all your Christian works and how only you glorify
>>>God.
>>
>> Little do you   realize, I do not need to point to all my Christian
>> works (brag), for that would only be pointing to me and trying to
>> bring glory to myself. So you have no need to know what Christian
>> works I do, God knows, and that is all that matters.
>>
>> But on the other hand what Elaine is doing is not bringing honor to
>> God at all in my opinion.
>
>God does need mere mortals to bring Him honor Larry, all Glory and Honor 
are 
>already His forever and ever.
>
> >Is not showing a good Christian example in
>> my opinion. In fact is doing just the opposite.
>
>Who here is showing a good Christian example? 

  You seem to CONSTANTLY be holding up an example that YOU REFUSE to
follow!

What's up with that?

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Subject: Re: Liar Weatherless insists he's committed 'no crime'...
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:48:16 GMT, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:02:50 GMT, "Rod" <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>  © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> "john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message 
>>> news:2lp393t604ckgv8q5mojcov3vivdsd19u0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:09:59 -0700, Falcon <Falcon23587
@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:46:47 -0700, "<~(Hey,
>>>>> WhaddyaKnow?JesusSaysI'mAWhosoeverToo!)~>" 
<ontheskagit@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 8, 6:31 pm, Falcon <Falcon23...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No more unbelievable than a lesbian, who claims to be a minister,
>>>>>>> justifying her behavior by teaching falsehoods from scripture.
>>>>>> Your obsessive need to turn Usenet threads to the topic of
>>>>>> homo***uality is once again noted, Bird of Prey.
>>>>> Just making a comment.
>>>>  True!  Yet you NEVER seem to manage to get around to making any
>>>> positive remarks, as Christ commanded.  "Love each other!"
>>>>
>>>>  You refuse to comply with that one.
>>>    Well just allow me to provide you with one of your examples of 
>>> "christian love"
>>>    that I've seen over the net, as below;
>> 
>>   Funny how toads like you LOVE to point out "the flaws in
>> Christianity", yet you express UTTERLY NO INTEREST in Christianity.
>> You are here to RIDICULE and to TAUNT.
>> 
>>  Jesus said we are to love, but He also said there comes a time.  Paul
>> did as well.
>> 
>> Jesus said "don't waste your time."  ( "Don't cast your pearls to the
>> pigs!")
>> 
>>  What you don't get is that there are limits to love and to patience.
>
>    Is that what Christ was saying as He died on the cross, "There are 
>LIMITS to MY love and patience......."  ???????

  For a non-Christian who very likely doesn't even believe in God, why
on EARTH are you now quoting God?

???

>
>
>> 
>>  You said recently that you had exhausted your patience with me.
>>   At last, we are now on the same footing.
>
>    Not even close !
>
>> 
>>  You will give me no ground; likewise, I will give you none.
>> 
>>  As I've said to other childish jerks (count yourself in on that), I
>> have given you the consideration you are going to get.
>> 
>>   You now get the back of my hand, as you have been giving me for some
>> time now.
>
>    How fitting that you now decide to change the scenery. All this time
>    I've been talking to your face when I was thinking it was your 
ass...
>    and all I really had to do was search for an upper lip with hair
>    upon it to distinguish between the two.....
>
>> 
>>>
>>>>> If you thought I was starting a discussion with you, you drooling,
>>>>> farting MORON, you were mistaken.
>>>>> john w
>>>   Or this one................
>>>
>>>
>>>>> You are both stupid. Neither of you claims to be American, so 
neither
>>>>> of you can pretend you know American law!
>> 
>>   Did you have a point to make?
>> 
>> 
>> I didn't think so.
>
>   Thats the point, you didn't think......
>
>
>> 
>> Rather than showing me "a better way", you choose instead to sink
>> BELOW my "lowly level."
>
>   And now we enter the realm of fantasy..........
>
>
>    Rod


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wrote:
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>john w <johnw wrote:
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>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:36:55 -0400, John Henry <johnhenry@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>  © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:28:14 -0500, ujb <ujb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>  © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this 
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:16:24 -0500, ujb <ujb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>  © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this 
post
>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the 
author.
>>>>>>> galia wrote:
>>>>>>>> *Reposted via news.aioe.org because of delays with Tera News*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is just to make the posters of ARCB aware, that I am NOT 
the author of
>>>>>>>> messages posted under the moniker "GalIa".  
>>>>>>> ???? I can't find any posts from a "GalIa", that's how I type 
your name, but I don't 
>>>>>>> think I've ever posted as "GalIa"?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The first message appeared on
>>>>>>>> July 6th, with three more following on July 7th, and 8th.
>>>>>>> Do you have the spelling right? If you are misreading you should 
feel like a boot!
>>>>>> There have been a handful (at least) of posts by the "imposter."
>>>>> What is an "imposter" papa ****?
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Perhaps there's something wrong with your feed; perhaps it's your
>>>>>> reader; perhaps it's you.
>>>>> Perhaps it's you, as I find *ZERO* posts that are forged? Perhaps 
it's your two lazy 
>>>>> i's causing you to read the monikers wrong? If u find a forgery 
please post it along 
>>>>> with the headers for all to see.
>>>> Why, dirtbag?
>>>>
>>>>  Because you asked me to?  When have you ever been nice enough to
>>>> deserve me being nice to you?
>>> Take a deep, deep breath.  Ya ready?
>> 
>> ....
>> 
>>   Why are you in this thread? 
>> 
>> ?????
>>    Why is there air?
>
>That answer can be found in the beginning of Genesis.
>
>> And why are you wasting so much of it?
>
>Take an aspirin, and then call your therapist in the morning.

I see my therapist in a few days!
  You I get to slam dunk today!

:-)

>
>John Henry
>> 
>> john w
>> 
>> snip
>> 


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> wrote:
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>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:25:30 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>  © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:24:24 -0500, "Rod" <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>  © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this 
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> To little, to late.........
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    I've wanted to publish this piece for a very long time, and I 
haven't 
>>>>> done it
>>>>> because of the potential of reprisals against my family, but more 
and more
>>>>> I am seeing the same things happening to others that I'll mention 
here, and
>>>>> it isn't worth the price these people are paying for my silence. I 
have 
>>>>> several
>>>>> friends that are senior citizens, republican, democrat and 
independent that 
>>>>> have
>>>>> made the mistake of voting in the present administration and many 
of the
>>>>> congressmen now serving. And for the last 50 years they have been 
wi****ng
>>>>> they could take it all back. I have friends that cannot afford to 
pay for 
>>>>> public
>>>>> trans****tation or food for themselves because they have to pay for 
medicine
>>>>> and health care. One of my friends is an ex truck driver as I am, 
and he 
>>>>> cannot
>>>>> drive any longer due to a heart condition known as atrial 
fibrillation, or 
>>>>> some know
>>>>  As nicely as I can put this, I am assuming this is a rough draft
>>>> (notes) rather than a final "publishable" work. It is not 
publishable
>>>> in this form in any publication you'd want it seen in.
>>>>
>>>> While I agree with little that you've said, all ideas merit
>>>> consideration by the widest possible audience.
>>>>
>>>> I therefore would STRONGLY encourage you to run this by a 
professional
>>>> writer/editor.
>>>>
>>>> I do NOT offer my services simply because I'm sure, with the anger 
and
>>>> hate you have expressed to me, I'm the last person you'd ask.
>>>>
>>>> As friendly as I can put it-- as a professional whether you choose 
to
>>>> believe that or not-- as a writer, it IS in my interest that you
>>>> understand this thing needs work, and that if you wish it published,
>>>> you should seek a professional to help you polish it.
>>>>
>>>> You  haven't even spell-checked it, which is basic.
>>>> Your grammar is basically non-existent.
>>>>
>>>> (and I am making a huge effort to be kind)
>>>>
>>>> Why do I care? I care about good writing, and you've obviously put
>>>> some time into this!
>>>    It's not a literary work John, it's real and happening now.
>> 
>>  My apologies for attempting to offer you some constructive,
>> professional help!
>> 
>>  It was my impression from what I read that you were posting an
>> "advance copy" and that you intended to have it published.
>> 
>> I merely tried to give you a pointer or two as to how to get
>> published, so that the largest number of people would have access to
>> it, and it would be written correctly..
>> 
>> My mistake!
>> 
>> Sad that your hatred overcomes your common sense and common decency!
>
>    I only corrected your impression, I did not intend to convey any
>    hatred towards you for your help. It's my mistake for giving you
>    that impression.
>
  As I said, "my mistake" for attempting to offer you the help I can
offer!

  I'll try very hard to not bother with you further!



>     Rod


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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:20:01 GMT, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
 © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:31:24 -0400, Bible Bob <biblebob@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>  © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 00:17:36 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:24:24 -0500, "Rod" <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> To little, to late.........
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    I've wanted to publish this piece for a very long time, and I 
haven't 
>>>>> done it
>>>>> because of the potential of reprisals against my family, but more 
and more
>>>>> I am seeing the same things happening to others that I'll mention 
here, and
>>>>> it isn't worth the price these people are paying for my silence. I 
have 
>>>>> several
>>>>> friends that are senior citizens, republican, democrat and 
independent that 
>>>>> have
>>>>> made the mistake of voting in the present administration and many 
of the
>>>>> congressmen now serving. And for the last 50 years they have been 
wi****ng
>>>>> they could take it all back. I have friends that cannot afford to 
pay for 
>>>>> public
>>>>> trans****tation or food for themselves because they have to pay for 
medicine
>>>>> and health care. One of my friends is an ex truck driver as I am, 
and he 
>>>>> cannot
>>>>> drive any longer due to a heart condition known as atrial 
fibrillation, or 
>>>>> some know
>>>> As nicely as I can put this, I am assuming this is a rough draft
>>>> (notes) rather than a final "publishable" work. It is not 
publishable
>>>> in this form in any publication you'd want it seen in.
>>>>
>>>> While I agree with little that you've said, all ideas merit
>>>> consideration by the widest possible audience.
>>>>
>>>> I therefore would STRONGLY encourage you to run this by a 
professional
>>>> writer/editor.
>>>>
>>>> I do NOT offer my services simply because I'm sure, with the anger 
and
>>>> hate you have expressed to me, I'm the last person you'd ask.
>>>>
>>>> As friendly as I can put it-- as a professional whether you choose 
to
>>>> believe that or not-- as a writer, it IS in my interest that you
>>>> understand this thing needs work, and that if you wish it published,
>>>> you should seek a professional to help you polish it.
>>>>
>>>> You  haven't even spell-checked it, which is basic.
>>>> Your grammar is basically non-existent.
>>>>
>>>> (and I am making a huge effort to be kind)
>>>>
>>>> Why do I care? I care about good writing, and you've obviously put
>>>> some time into this!
>>>>
>>>> Once it's "polished", get to the local library, pick up a copy of 
the
>>>> current "Writer's Guide to Book Editors, Publishers, and Literary
>>>> Agents"
>>>>
>>>> Peruse that "Bible" for information on where and how to submit it.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck!
>>>>
>>>> john w
>>> jw,
>>>
>>> Where is your compassion for your fellow humans?
>> 
>>   You don't need to worry about my issues, BB!
>>   You need to worry about your own.
>>   But-- frankly-- as I have said before-- 
>>     #1 Rod isn't interested in my help
>
>
>     I know people that need your help AND your vote
>     will make a difference !
>
>     Several of us, former republicans, democrats, greens, libertarians
>     are banding togather as a force to stop the major parties in there
>     tracks and take back our country.
>
>     You won't find a single person in the entire group that isn't
>     able to understand what happening to our country and our people !
>
>     If you, or anyone you know wants to take a bite out of corruption
>     and greed, www.unity08.com is a place to start for all the info
>     you cam swallow.
>
>     I signed up with them because they are people that want to go
>     where I am wanting to go, or I wouldn't sup****t them. I need
>     them as much as they need me, no one can do this alone....

    You punch me, you slap me, you kick me in the balls, you bite me;
you call me every low name you can think of:  homo, coward, idiot,
insane...  and those are the nice ones,

 and then you come up with this cause...

  And you ask for my help.

     "You gotta be kidding!"

    I wouldn't help YOU row a life raft!

    As I believe I said in a prior post, 
   
   "Fella, you're on your own!"

   I offered the help I could offer, (my resources ARE limited), and
you spit in my face.

  I came over and offered to water your plants while you're on
vacation.  You said, "Uh Uh! What I need is for you to walk my dog
twice a day for a month."

  I didn't offer you that!


   "Deal with it."

>
>     Rod


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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:19:11 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (RedFox) wrote:
 © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>In article <ngra93903s4ncdah49fnc77g6ppd2iq7es@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, john w
><johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>
>>   You started this by saying:
>> 
>>    " I've wanted to publish this piece for a very long time,"
>> 
>>    I tried to tell you how to get this published.
>>    What you said to me is that you actually are NOT interested in
>> getting this published (beyond this group)
>> 
>>   I offered you some professional advice (advice people pay me for),
>> and you flipped me off!
>> 
>>   As I expected!
>> 
>>   "You're on your own!"
>> 
>> 
>> john w
>> 
>
>John you are a truly ROTTEN writer
>
>Your output has been negligible

You don't know what I've written!

So AGAIN you are more than willing to be a liar!

snip

Your psychotic HATE is a terrible thing!


john w


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Subject: Re: John Weatherly "A Layman Looks at The Bible" Chapter One
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:34:05 -0700
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:31:42 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
 © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>RedFox wrote:
>> Always keen to help John Weatherly with his writing.  Here is a 
possible
>> first chapter
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - A Layman looks at the Bible Chapter One (suggested)
>> 
>> 
>> One night as I was kneeling with my teddy, God reached out his hand 
and
>> said to me 
>> 
>> "Open John this Bible. The hinge is on the left"
>> 
>> I obeyed. But the writing was peculiar and I began to get a headache
>> 
>> "Could this be a King James Version Lord?" I asked "it makes my eyes 
cross"
>> 
>> "That is the work of your demons John" said God "In truth you are 
holding
>> the book upside down"
>> 
>> I have discussed this experience with many leading theologians who 
have
>> assured me that my experiences are far from unique.  The day they 
expelled
>> me from my second seminary, one of them gave me a comic book , pop up
>> version of the Bible which I have used throughout this book, in which 
I
>> will explain all the **** you bastards are too stupid to UNDERSTAND
>> 
>> So go figure PSYCHOS
>> 
>> (continued page 94)
>
>
>    I haven't laughed this hard since Weatherly accused Elaine of being
>    me, and vice versa....
>
>    Rod

  Thanks, Rodney!  It's always good to know I'm good for a laugh!  I
like making people laugh!

  And, to return the compliment, just about everything you write
cracks me up, too!

:-)




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From: john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.christian.baptist
Subject: Re: John Weatherly "A Layman Looks at The Bible" Chapter One
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 23:32:53 -0700
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 10:20:22 +1000, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (RedFox) wrote:
 © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>In article <Jesse-1207071005280001@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Jesse@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>(RedFox) wrote:
>
>> Always keen to help John Weatherly with his writing.  Here is a 
possible
>> first chapter
>
>
>Chapter Two
>
>Fish Dinners in the Bible
>
>The most famous fish dinner in the Bible  was the one at which Jesus 
made
>sandwiches for five thousand people using only  a couple of haddocks.
>
 Wow, Reddddddddd!  I'd think a mature, responsible, thinking ADULT
would have better things to do than ridicule people of faith!

Who knows?  Next time you need a tow, you might end up with a Southern
Baptist with a tow truck!

It would be interesting to see how long you ridicule the "fish" symbol
on the door of his truck!

john w


>A lot of people who have only kept goldfish probably believe that fish
>only have small appetites and live on a pinch of fishflakes.  I have 
tried
>living that way myself in the service of the Lord and it is not easy
>
>God proved the mockers wrong when he had Jonah swallow a whale in one 
gulp....
>
>In my pop up version of the Bible there is a footnote in which one of 
the
>leading theologians  (he has a PhD in divinity) who taught me explains 
>that we should see ourselves in the whale.......
>
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On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:23:27 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:57:48 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>  © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 08:25:30 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>  © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this 
post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:24:24 -0500, "Rod" <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>  © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this 
post
>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the 
author.
>>>>>>> To little, to late.........
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    I've wanted to publish this piece for a very long time, and I 
haven't 
>>>>>>> done it
>>>>>>> because of the potential of reprisals against my family, but more 
and more
>>>>>>> I am seeing the same things happening to others that I'll mention 
here, and
>>>>>>> it isn't worth the price these people are paying for my silence. 
I have 
>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>> friends that are senior citizens, republican, democrat and 
independent that 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> made the mistake of voting in the present administration and many 
of the
>>>>>>> congressmen now serving. And for the last 50 years they have been 
wi****ng
>>>>>>> they could take it all back. I have friends that cannot afford to 
pay for 
>>>>>>> public
>>>>>>> trans****tation or food for themselves because they have to pay 
for medicine
>>>>>>> and health care. One of my friends is an ex truck driver as I am, 
and he 
>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>> drive any longer due to a heart condition known as atrial 
fibrillation, or 
>>>>>>> some know
>>>>>>  As nicely as I can put this, I am assuming this is a rough draft
>>>>>> (notes) rather than a final "publishable" work. It is not 
publishable
>>>>>> in this form in any publication you'd want it seen in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While I agree with little that you've said, all ideas merit
>>>>>> consideration by the widest possible audience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I therefore would STRONGLY encourage you to run this by a 
professional
>>>>>> writer/editor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do NOT offer my services simply because I'm sure, with the anger 
and
>>>>>> hate you have expressed to me, I'm the last person you'd ask.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As friendly as I can put it-- as a professional whether you choose 
to
>>>>>> believe that or not-- as a writer, it IS in my interest that you
>>>>>> understand this thing needs work, and that if you wish it 
published,
>>>>>> you should seek a professional to help you polish it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You  haven't even spell-checked it, which is basic.
>>>>>> Your grammar is basically non-existent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (and I am making a huge effort to be kind)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do I care? I care about good writing, and you've obviously put
>>>>>> some time into this!
>>>>>    It's not a literary work John, it's real and happening now.
>>>>  My apologies for attempting to offer you some constructive,
>>>> professional help!
>>>>
>>>>  It was my impression from what I read that you were posting an
>>>> "advance copy" and that you intended to have it published.
>>>>
>>>> I merely tried to give you a pointer or two as to how to get
>>>> published, so that the largest number of people would have access to
>>>> it, and it would be written correctly..
>>>>
>>>> My mistake!
>>>>
>>>> Sad that your hatred overcomes your common sense and common decency!
>>>    I only corrected your impression, I did not intend to convey any
>>>    hatred towards you for your help. It's my mistake for giving you
>>>    that impression.
>>>
>>   As I said, "my mistake" for attempting to offer you the help I can
>> offer!
>> 
>>   I'll try very hard to not bother with you further!
>
>    But you are doing that in replying to me !

   ????
     Lie!  How is telling you you're full of crap helping you?

   tsk tsk



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Subject: Re: Liar Weatherless insists he's committed 'no crime'...
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>
>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>
>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
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>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 19:50:27 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>>>>
>>>>>"john w @[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>" <johnw<no> wrote in message
>>>>>news:gr3893dmsn1a9bdl4gv20mvob333o328g7@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:54:55 -0400, "Scout Lady"
>>>>>> <scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I am a media person.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You are a mental case from Seattle.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I walk the streets a free person! There are plenty of people who
>>>>>> have mental problems who are not locked up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>That doesn't mean that you and the rest of the crazies shouldn't be 
>>>>>locked
>>>>>up.
>>>>
>>>> Well, since you are one of the craziest psycho *****es I know, count
>>>> yourself in.
>>>>
>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>I forgive you John,
>>
>>  Liar!  Your pattern of misbehavior the past 5 years proves you
>> don't!
>>
>> You're still fuming about ????????.
>>  From YEARS ago!
>>
>> And -- by the way-- your pattern of lying and avoidance are
>> symptomatic of pathology!  (psychoses)
>>
>>
>> I know you are pedaling your broken tricycle as fast you
>>>can.
>>
>>  At least I am aware that I have issues, Cathy.  Your advanced stage
>> of DENIAL is as bad as Elaine's!
>>
>> Sad, really! Help IS available if you'd just stop being so God-damned
>> proud (pride is a sin damned by God as well)
>>
>I forgive you again John. 

 I see your pathological lying continues!
>


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Subject: Re: Liar Weatherless insists he's committed 'no crime'...
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 00:04:43 -0700
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<scoutlady@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>
><larry4355@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>news:fla993hflrtu450992aj8hje0lsjvttat3@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 22:04:12 -0500, CB <country2000@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:25:15 -0400, larry4355@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 10:28:42 -0400, NOspam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 00:41:14 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Nay!  Don't give him too much credit.
>>>>>>  He comes in here only to make noise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Like 'you', weatherless?
>>>>>
>>>>>>  I call him "Tweety."  Noisy and silly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>john w
>>>>>And many of US call 'you:
>>>>>
>>>>>liar-johnnie
>>>>>sun****ne-boi
>>>>>qwene liar
>>>>>St. ****o
>>>>>papa-****
>>>>>short-bus johnnie
>>>>>numbnuts
>>>>>The Seattle Psycho
>>>>>The Wa****ngton Wanker
>>>>>
>>>>>among other delightful nicknames you've earned all by yourself.
>>>>
>>>>And this makes you Christian how?
>>>>And this brings honor and glory to God how?
>>>
>>>How you been mr self righteousness?
>>>PLease tell us of all your Christian works and how only you glorify
>>>God.
>>
>> Little do you   realize, I do not need to point to all my Christian
>> works (brag), for that would only be pointing to me and trying to
>> bring glory to myself. So you have no need to know what Christian
>> works I do, God knows, and that is all that matters.
>>
>> But on the other hand what Elaine is doing is not bringing honor to
>> God at all in my opinion.
>
>God does need mere mortals to bring Him honor Larry, all Glory and Honor 
are 
>already His forever and ever.

Interesting comment from The Spiritual Giant, Cathy!

  You AGAIN choose to IGNORE the Bible when it contradicts you!

  The Bible DOES command us to glorify God in all our deeds!

 Of course, you wouldn't know that, because you study the Catechism,
NOT the Bible!

john w

>
> >Is not showing a good Christian example in
>> my opinion. In fact is doing just the opposite.
>
>Who here is showing a good Christian example? 

  Well, for a start, Cathy, certainly NOT you!


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> wrote:
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may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>john w <johnw wrote:
>> x-no-archive: yes
>> On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:17:04 -0500, Rod <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>  © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this post
>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the author.
>>> Terrell D Lewis wrote:
>>>> "Rod" <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
>>>> news:pT4li.26$Dx2.17@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> john w <johnw wrote:
>>>>>> x-no-archive: yes
>>>>>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:24:24 -0500, "Rod" <kc0oeb@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>>  © 2007 John D Weatherly all rights reserved; no ****tion of this 
post
>>>>>> may be used anywhere else without written permission of the 
author.
>>>>>>> To little, to late.........
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    I've wanted to publish this piece for a very long time, and I 
haven't 
>>>>>>> done it
>>>>>>> because of the potential of reprisals against my family, but more 
and 
>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> I am seeing the same things happening to others that I'll mention 
here, 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it isn't worth the price these people are paying for my silence. 
I have 
>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>> friends that are senior citizens, republican, democrat and 
independent 
>>>>>>> that have
>>>>>>> made the mistake of voting in the present administration and many 
of the
>>>>>>> congressmen now serving. And for the last 50 years they have been 
>>>>>>> wi****ng
>>>>>>> they could take it all back. I have friends that cannot afford to 
pay 
>>>>>>> for public
>>>>>>> trans****tation or food for themselves because they have to pay 
for 
>>>>>>> medicine
>>>>>>> and health care. One of my friends is an ex truck driver as I am, 
and he 
>>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>>> drive any longer due to a heart condition known as atrial 
fibrillation, 
>>>>>>> or some know
>>>>>>  As nicely as I can put this, I am assuming this is a rough draft
>>>>>> (notes) rather than a final "publishable" work. It is not 
publishable
>>>>>> in this form in any publication you'd want it seen in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While I agree with little that you've said, all ideas merit
>>>>>> consideration by the widest possible audience.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I therefore would STRONGLY encourage you to run this by a 
professional
>>>>>> writer/editor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do NOT offer my services simply because I'm sure, with the anger 
and
>>>>>> hate you have expressed to me, I'm the last person you'd ask.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As friendly as I can put it-- as a professional whether you choose 
to
>>>>>> believe that or not-- as a writer, it IS in my interest that you
>>>>>> understand this thing needs work, and that if you wish it 
published,
>>>>>> you should seek a professional to help you polish it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You  haven't even spell-checked it, which is basic.
>>>>>> Your grammar is basically non-existent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (and I am making a huge effort to be kind)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do I care? I care about good writing, and you've obviously put
>>>>>> some time into this!
>>>>>    It's not a literary work John, it's real and happening now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> To some extent jw is right here.  It is a story that should be 
polished and 
>>>> submitted - probably as an op-ed to a Liberal slanted paper 
(Conservatives 
>>>> couldn't care less - it was Reagan who managed to swell the ranks of 
the 
>>>> homeless by withholding funding for mental health forcing the 
marginally 
>>>> mentally ill onto the streets).
>>>>
>>>> It's a story that should be told and retold - how our great nation 
has 
>>>> abandoned its poor.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>   Someone should tell this womans story, and the stories of others
>>>   as well. I know senior citizens that are forced to choose between
>>>   medicine and food, living on a social security income of $400. per
>>>   month. They deserve much better than watching fat cat conservatives
>>>   and liberals get wealthy while they barely have the necessities of
>>>   life.
>>>
>>>    I hope that someone will care enough to pick it up...
>> 
>>   I told you how to go about "getting someone to pick it up",
>>  Rod, in an attempt to help you when I consider you otherwise
>> UNWORTHY!
>> 
>>   You are another one of those ego-driven, ego-damaged people who
>> think that every word you type is a GEM and that your words don't need
>> ANY polish!
>> 
>>  Yours are the words that editors read 5 of and BECAUSE YOU DIDN"T
>> BOTHER TO DO IT CORRECTLY, your precious article ends up in the trash
>> can or being used to line a bird cage.
>> 
>>  You truly need to get over yourself.
>> 
>>  I am truly not your enemy!  You are!
>> 
>> 
>> You have once again made me regret my attempting to extend you a
>> kindness!
>> 
>> john w
>> 
>>>   Rod
>> 
>
>    It wasn't an "article",

    IT COULD BE!
            And while you may get 50 people to read your "*****" in
here, if you wrote it properly, with professional help, you could
reach 50 MILLION people.

  But you are one of those who is of the mind, "this is PRECISELY what
I want to do!" I want to spill my guts, and then have 5,000 people
charge in and take over the project and do all the work, while I sit
back, kick up my feet, and smoke a cigar, and say, "look at what *I*
got started!"

  Yours is a dream world!

  You "think big", but there's no follow-thru!

 it was a grievance that I put to paper,
>    one day hoping that I would get an op****tunity to beat the living
>    hell out of the cop that denied my guest medical care while in
>    jail.

   You abhor my views on violence, but you now want to beat the person
who upset you to a pulp!  Which will land you in prison, if not on
death row!

 "Mature!"  "Adult!"  "Responsible!"
   NOT


>
>    I'm a patient person when I have to be, one day I'll be handing that
>    bastard his face in a trash bag.......
>
>
>      Rod


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Subject: Re: Weatherly Is Back On His Meds
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>On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:12:52 -0700, john w <johnw<no>@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>wrote:
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>>
>>   I believe that you're such a WUSS, you let a psycho woman (probably
>>you in different form) speak for you!
>>
>A psycho woman, you claim? Provide the 'proof'

As you like to say, you drooling IDIOT, "Google's archives are all the
proof I need that you're psychotic!

 And a menace!

, short bus- 

 I'm not retarded, you stupid *****!

We ALL KNOW
>you're psychotic,

"We all know?"
   AGAIN, you stupid, psychotic *****, you don't speak for EVERYONE,
but you pretend you do!

 paranoid,

?  Paranoid?
  Hardly!
     I know you are dangerous!
     I know Jimmy is dangerous!

    You and Jimmy have posted private, personal information 
   about me 
    JUST TO PROVE you could obtain it!
          NOTHING was accomplished but damaging me!
             NOTHING! And for NO reason other than
         YOUR psychotic MEANNESS!

            And why?  Because you could!

 a proven liar, 

  Again, sweet pea, you will have the chance to prove I'm a liar in
court!

and an idiot.

  Not true! An idiot could not have built 4 computers this past 2
weeks FROM SCRATCH!  3 of them from spare parts I had laying around!

  I calculate that of some 100 people in my building, there are 2 of
us who can build a computer from parts!

  I am BETTING you could not build a computer from PARTS!


>
>>   I wouldn't brag about that if I were you!
>
>I would---- you have nothing to brag about,

  The one with nothing to brag bout, the one making the most
inflammatory lies, would be YOU!

  What's "short bus", you psycho, but a very deliberately hurtful
label that means I'm retarded!
  What an ugly thing to say about ANYBODY in the 21st Century!
  That "short bus" label means you have nothing but contempt for
YOURSELF!
   I doubt SERIOUSLY if you call the Downe's Syndrome and severely
handicapped people you encounter "short bus."

  So you DO know better!

john w

  snipped your ranting!  I believe we've all had enough of that!



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