NOTICE HOW JESUIT STEPHEN KORSMAN CONTRADICTS MORE OF THE TEACHINGS OF
CATHOLICISM BELOW HERE.
THIS WAS AFTER HE ATTACKED THE TEN COMMANDMENTS IN ORDER TO ATTACK THE
TRUE CHURCH, SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISM, AND CANNOT BE REMINDED THAT ROME
SUP****TS IT.
ROME CLAIMS THE SABBATH IS FOR MAN, BUT THAT THEY TRANSFERRED THE
OBLIGATION TO SUNDAY.
PLEASE ALSO REMEMBER THAT KORSMAN SUP****TS THE IRAQ WAR WHIILE ROME
PUBLICLY CONDEMNED IT.
IN THIS CASE IT IS THE VATICAN THAT IS ACTUALLY LYING. ROME DOES
INDEED SUP****T THE IRAQ WAR. IT IS AN INQUISITION AGAINST LOYAL
AMERICAN SOLDIERS WHO PROTECT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THE GLOBAL
POPULATION!
http://www.TheirSecrets.info/iraqwar.htm
Ted McMillan
On Sun, 4 Jul 2004 10:22:17 +0200, "Stephen Korsman"
<skorsman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
>"Frank Trebor" <frank_trebor@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>news:1088905010.869349@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man,
>> and not man for the sabbath: Mark 2:27
>
>Mark 2, Matt 12, Luke 6
>
>(Mar 2:23) And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on
the
>sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of
>corn.
>(Mar 2:24) And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the
>sabbath day that which is not lawful?
>(Mar 2:25) And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when
he
>had need, and was hungry, he, and they that were with him?
>(Mar 2:26) How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the
>high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but
for
>the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
>(Mar 2:27) And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not
man
>for the sabbath:
>(Mar 2:28) Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
>
>(Mat 12:1) At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn;
and
>his disciples were hungry, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to
eat.
>(Mat 12:2) But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy
>disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day.
>(Mat 12:3) But he said unto them, Have ye not read what David did, when
he
>was hungry, and they that were with him;
>(Mat 12:4) How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the
shewbread,
>which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with
him,
>but only for the priests
>(Mat 12:5) Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days
the
>priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless
>(Mat 12:6) But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the
>temple.
>(Mat 12:7) But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and
not
>sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless.
>(Mat 12:8) For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.
>(Mat 12:9) And when he was departed thence, he went into their synagogue:
>(Mat 12:10) And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And
>they asked him, saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that
they
>might accuse him.
>(Mat 12:11) And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you,
that
>shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will
he
>not lay hold on it, and lift it out?
>(Mat 12:12) How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is
>lawful to do well on the sabbath days.
>
>(Luk 6:5) And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the
>sabbath.
>(Luk 6:9) Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it
lawful
>on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to
destroy
>it?
>
>
>
>Adventists claim that these passages show that the Sabbath is still in
>effect, and Christians are obliged to keep it. They claim that Mark 2:27,
in
>saying that the sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath, proves
>that the Sabbath was not given to Israel alone, but to all mankind.
>
>They are taking the verse out of context. If one goes back and read the
>entire passage along with verse 27, one sees that Jesus was not speaking
>about whether or not the Sabbath was made for Jews or for all mankind for
>all ages and in all places. Jesus was accused of breaking the law in many
>places in the Bible, and the Sabbath was one they often picked on him for
-
>here he is pointing out that the purpose of the Sabbath is to serve man,
not
>a case of man being made to glorify the Sabbath. By removing the verse
from
>its context, Sabbath keepers turn the meaning around. This is a
>well-do***ented logical fallacy, called the false dichotomy. The verse,
out
>of context, is presented as presenting two points (the false dichotomy) -
>the Sabbath was made for man, or the Sabbath was made for Jews. But in
>context, the actual dichotomy is between the legalist/Pharisee
perspective
>(the Sabbath was more im****tant than those keeping it) and Jesus'
>perspective (the Sabbath was made to serve those keeping it.)
>
>When Jesus said that the Sabbath was made for man, he was NOT contrasting
>mankind with Judaism. He was contrasting the LAW with MAN ... what he was
>saying is that the LAW was made to serve MAN, NOT man being made to keep
the
>law. There is NOTHING about Jews or Israel AT ALL in this text ...
>Adventists are reading something into the text that is not there, and, by
>removing a statement from its context, making it say something that
doesn't
>even fit into the actual context at all. The Old Testament is explicit -
the
>Sabbath was made for Israel, and is explicitly called the sign of the Old
>Covenant. We all know that this was abolished at the Cross. And the Old
>Testament also tells us clearly that the Sabbath was given to MOSES, and
NOT
>before the time of Moses. That alone proves that the Sabbath was not
given
>to ALL mankind, because Adam, Noah, and Abraham never knew of it or kept
it.
>See the article here for more info on that.
>
>Jesus is not saying that Christians must keep the Sabbath. That is taking
>Jesus' words out of context. Does Jesus actually preach anywhere about
the
>future Christian Church and the laws it must keep? Such an idea is not
found
>ANYWHERE in this passage, or in the New Testament. What Jesus is doing is
>instructing the Sabbath-keeping Jews of his day on how to deal with God's
>law. They were legalistic, and put the law above love and mercy. Jesus is
>turning that around, and saying that the Sabbath God gave them is not
meant
>as an end in its own right, but as a means to serve mankind. Jesus is
>explaining that the Sabbath is a means for grace and mercy, and not what
the
>Pharisees made it into - the holy of holies, the final end of Jewish
>wor****p. This principle is equally valid in ALL Christian denominations.
>There is nothing at all in the text to suggest that Jesus is proclaiming
>that the Sabbath will continue. He is merely using a real problem of the
>time to expound a principle of mercy.
>
>Jesus is actually discussing the law as a whole here - my reasoning is
twofo
>ld. First, the Pharisees were always trying to find him breaking the law
-
>the Sabbath, hand-wa****ng, and so forth - and so this is just one of the
>several instances where Jesus gives us insight into the true nature and
>purpose of the law. Second, Jesus actually gives another example of
>law-breaking unrelated to the Sabbath - David was so hungry he ate a
certain
>bread that could not be eaten by anyone other than the high priest. This
has
>nothing to do with the Sabbath, yet Jesus uses this example to prove that
>the law exists to serve man, not man to serve the law. Based on this, I
feel
>that Jesus is not promoting the Sabbath at all here, and this passage
>actually does not deal with the Sabbath's implications for Christians.
All
>that Jesus is doing is showing, using two contem****ary examples, how the
law
>is meant to be used. So he is not making a statement at all about who the
>Sabbath was given to - Israel versus mankind. The Bible has already
spoken
>on that - the Sabbath was for Israel. What Jesus is saying - as I see it
-
>is not about mankind's relation****p with the Sabbath, but the
relation****p
>between PEOPLE and the Sabbath - did people have to serve the Sabbath or
did
>the Sabbath exist to serve the people Jesus was speaking to? And this is
>just one of several examples used to show the nature of the law.
>
>What of the statements that Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath? Adventists want
>the text so say that because Jesus is "Lord even of the Sabbath", it
means
>that it is his special day. But just go back and read the entire passage
-
>it actually is saying that Jesus is ABOVE the law, that it is HE who
>determines when a law is applicable, and when it is legalistic.
Basically,
>the text is saying NOT that Jesus' special day is the Sabbath, but that
>Jesus is Lord OVER the Sabbath JUST as he is Lord over every other aspect
of
>nature, the law, and the universe, and he controls it completely.
>
>Cir***cision too was made for man, and not man for cir***cision.
>
>
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