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Re: ELLEN WHITE PREACHED ANOTHER GOSPEL

by Donna Kupp <dkupp@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 22, 2008 at 09:46 AM

On Apr 21, 6:34=A0pm, tmac100 <tmac1...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> http://www.Seventh-dayAdventism.com
>
> "FORMER SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST MINISTER" ATTACKS ELLEN G. WHITE!
>
> "Former Seventh-day Adventist minister" from 1979-1990, a Sydney
> Cleveland, attacks Ellen G. White! =A0From his book, "White-Washed,"
> Sydney Cleveland, anxious to prove Ellen White a false prophet, proves
> himself to actually be
one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DQvsK8ADctoc&fe=
ature=3Drelated
>
> HE ATTACKS: =A0Here from the following quotation, he tries to prove
> Ellen G. White is a false prophet by predicting wrong about Old
> Jerusalem being built up. =A0She says...
>
> Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error of believing
> that it is their duty to go to Old Jerusalem, and think they have a
> work to do there before the Lord comes. Such a view is calculated to
> take the mind and interest from the present work of the Lord, under
> the message of the third angel;...
>
> I saw that Satan had greatly deceived some in this thing and that
> souls all around them in this land could be helped by them and led to
> keep the commandments of God, but they were leaving them to perish. I
> also saw that Old Jerusalem never would be built up;...
>
> Satan was doing his utmost to lead the minds of the children of the
> Lord into these things now, in the gathering time, to keep them from
> throwing their whole interest into the present work of the Lord, and
> to cause them to neglect the necessary preparation for the day of the
> Lord. -- Early Writings, pg. 75
>
> Sydney Cleveland maintains here that Ellen White's prophecy is
> incorrect. =A0He claimed that Old Jerusalem clearly has been built up to
> this very day.
>
> ANSWER: =A0Ellen White said we must not make special efforts to go win
> the Jews over there over to Christ with the thought in mind that they
> will be saved as a nation and be like they used to be under Moses,
> where they were supremely powerful under God, feared no other nation,
> but all the other nations feared them. =A0Every one of those who viewed
> Israel like that to this day, believed they were to specially go over
> to Israel to win the Jews over to Christ, with the thought in mind
> that this will make them be like they were during the days of Moses,
> going about conquering nations miraculously again and that they would
> be the literal 144,000. =A0The pastor who is attacking is taking
> advantage of the idea that Adventists and Christians were going over
> there to win the Jews over so that they can build up their cities with
> brick and mortar. =A0It was always commonly known that those who had a
> vision of converting the Jews over there were doing it with the
> thought of building their hearts and former power back into favor with
> God so they can be like they were even when they conquered kingdoms of
> giants. =A0Not their bricks and mortar.
>
> Ellen White's statement is correct. =A0Old Jerusalem would not be built
> up therefore necessitating Christians to go over there and introduce
> Christ to them. =A0Introducing them to Christ is not to build their
> houses, lands or city back again. =A0People wanted to go there and build
> "Old Jerusalem up" in order to make God accept them as a nation as
> when Moses led them in ancient history.
>
> ANOTHER ATTACK: =A0Here he quotes statements from Sister White claiming
> that she will be alive when Christ comes and will be caught up to meet
> Jesus in the air without tasting death...
>
> Soon our eyes were drawn to the East, for a small black cloud had
> appeared about half as large as a man's hand, which we all knew was
> the Sign of the Son of Man...
>
> The graves opened,... =A0and in the same moment we were changed and
> caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the air. =A0-- The Day-
> Star, January 24, 1846
>
> ANSWER: =A0True prophets were not always technically correct in
> everything they say. =A0A common point where they were mostly always
> wrong was their belief for when the Lord would come the second time.
> Virtually all of them believed that their time was the last days and
> that Christ would come while they were yet alive. =A0We found that this
> was the typical belief that the Lord well tolerated, often without
> correcting them. =A0The Disciples of Christ also well believed this, and
> even believed that Christ was there to install His eternal kingdom and
> free them from the domination of Rome. =A0That's why the Disciples were
> eager to have the greatest place in Christ's kingdom. =A0If the author
> here claims Ellen White was a false prophet for making that statement,
> then he was, as is common with all who are actually false prophets,
> actually claiming the same against most other true prophets. =A0Here is
> the keynote example:
>
> 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with
> the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in
> Christ shall rise first:
> 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with
> them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever
> be with the Lord.
> 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 17
>
> Here, the Apostle Paul makes the same claim, and shows he believed at
> that time that Christ would come in his day and that he would be alive
> to meet Him.
>
> ANOTHER ATTACK: =A0He displays the following quotation from Ellen White
> claiming that Christ would come in her day. =A0Watch what happens...
>
> I saw that some of those present would be food for worms, some
> subjects for the seven last plagues, and some would be translated to
> heaven at the second coming of Christ, without seeing death. --
> Spiritual Gifts, Vol 2 (1860) pg. 208
>
> The attacker claims this is proof of false prophecy and therefore
> proof that Ellen White is a false prophet. =A0So much did she believe
> that Christ was coming in 1844, she actually claimed, according to the
> wording, that there were some actually there who would not die before
> Christ comes. =A0Is the accusation therefore correct?
> If that is true, get a load of another person who would be, by his own
> words, a false prophet...
>
> 27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his
> angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
> 28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not
> taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
> Matthew 16:27, 28
>
> Why Christ said this can be better explained in our Adventism's
> Perplexities Answered pages! =A0But nonetheless, the man actually said
> that Christ was a false prophet! =A0It will be the path of anyone who
> determines to follow even in ecclesiastical treason.


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ELLEN WHITE PREACHED ANOTHER GOSPEL!

Ellen White wrote:

"The LORD has given instruction that the Gospel is to be carried
forward; and the GOSPEL INCLUDES HEALTH REFORM in all its
phases." {TSDF 88.5}

"The GOSPEL OF HEALTH is to be firmly linked with the ministry of the
word." {TSDF 88.6}

"The light God has given on HEALTH REFORM is for our SALVATION and the
salvation of the world."   CDF p.461

"God gave the light on HEALTH REFORM and those who reject it, REJECT
GOD!"   Series B, p. 205

"The meat diet is the serious question. Shall HUMAN BEINGS live on the
flesh of dead animals. The answer from the light GOD HAS GIVEN ME is,
no, decidedly NO." CDF, p. 388

The Scripture:

"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL unto
you than that which WE have preached unto you, let him be accursed."
Galatians 1:8

"As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other
gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." (Gal
1:9)

Dear Reader,

Jesus and the apostles did not preach vegetarianism as a requirement
for salvation.  Jesus and the apostles ate flesh meat.  Jesus was
without sin --or we would not have a saviour.

Only God knows how many people have rejected the seventh day sabbath
commandment because of the foolishness of Ellen White and the false
"gospel" of Health Reform that the seventh day adventist church is
preaching.

I am not a Seventh Day Adventist (and never have been), a natural Jew,
or a Catholic.  I am simply the least of Christ's brethren who love
Him and keep His Commandments. (Including the seventh day sabbath.)

The Seven Deadly Deceptions Of Counterfeit Christianity
http://www.freetruth.info
 




 3 Posts in Topic:
"Former Adventist" Attacks Against Ellen White... ANSWERED!!...
tmac100 <tmac1238@[EMA  2008-04-21 18:34:58 
Re: ELLEN WHITE PREACHED ANOTHER GOSPEL
Donna Kupp <dkupp@[EMA  2008-04-22 09:46:54 
Re: ELLEN WHITE PREACHED ANOTHER GOSPEL
tmac100 <tmac1238@[EMA  2008-04-22 23:25:05 

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