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"FORMER SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST MINISTER" ATTACKS ELLEN G. WHITE!
"Former Seventh-day Adventist minister" from 1979-1990, a Sydney
Cleveland, attacks Ellen G. White! From his book, "White-Washed,"
Sydney Cleveland, anxious to prove Ellen White a false prophet, proves
himself to actually be one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvsK8ADctoc&feature=related
HE ATTACKS: Here from the following quotation, he tries to prove
Ellen G. White is a false prophet by predicting wrong about Old
Jerusalem being built up. She says...
Then I was pointed to some who are in the great error of believing
that it is their duty to go to Old Jerusalem, and think they have a
work to do there before the Lord comes. Such a view is calculated to
take the mind and interest from the present work of the Lord, under
the message of the third angel;...
I saw that Satan had greatly deceived some in this thing and that
souls all around them in this land could be helped by them and led to
keep the commandments of God, but they were leaving them to perish. I
also saw that Old Jerusalem never would be built up;...
Satan was doing his utmost to lead the minds of the children of the
Lord into these things now, in the gathering time, to keep them from
throwing their whole interest into the present work of the Lord, and
to cause them to neglect the necessary preparation for the day of the
Lord. -- Early Writings, pg. 75
Sydney Cleveland maintains here that Ellen White's prophecy is
incorrect. He claimed that Old Jerusalem clearly has been built up to
this very day.
ANSWER: Ellen White said we must not make special efforts to go win
the Jews over there over to Christ with the thought in mind that they
will be saved as a nation and be like they used to be under Moses,
where they were supremely powerful under God, feared no other nation,
but all the other nations feared them. Every one of those who viewed
Israel like that to this day, believed they were to specially go over
to Israel to win the Jews over to Christ, with the thought in mind
that this will make them be like they were during the days of Moses,
going about conquering nations miraculously again and that they would
be the literal 144,000. The pastor who is attacking is taking
advantage of the idea that Adventists and Christians were going over
there to win the Jews over so that they can build up their cities with
brick and mortar. It was always commonly known that those who had a
vision of converting the Jews over there were doing it with the
thought of building their hearts and former power back into favor with
God so they can be like they were even when they conquered kingdoms of
giants. Not their bricks and mortar.
Ellen White's statement is correct. Old Jerusalem would not be built
up therefore necessitating Christians to go over there and introduce
Christ to them. Introducing them to Christ is not to build their
houses, lands or city back again. People wanted to go there and build
"Old Jerusalem up" in order to make God accept them as a nation as
when Moses led them in ancient history.
ANOTHER ATTACK: Here he quotes statements from Sister White claiming
that she will be alive when Christ comes and will be caught up to meet
Jesus in the air without tasting death...
Soon our eyes were drawn to the East, for a small black cloud had
appeared about half as large as a man's hand, which we all knew was
the Sign of the Son of Man...
The graves opened,... and in the same moment we were changed and
caught up together with them to meet the Lord in the air. -- The Day-
Star, January 24, 1846
ANSWER: True prophets were not always technically correct in
everything they say. A common point where they were mostly always
wrong was their belief for when the Lord would come the second time.
Virtually all of them believed that their time was the last days and
that Christ would come while they were yet alive. We found that this
was the typical belief that the Lord well tolerated, often without
correcting them. The Disciples of Christ also well believed this, and
even believed that Christ was there to install His eternal kingdom and
free them from the domination of Rome. That's why the Disciples were
eager to have the greatest place in Christ's kingdom. If the author
here claims Ellen White was a false prophet for making that statement,
then he was, as is common with all who are actually false prophets,
actually claiming the same against most other true prophets. Here is
the keynote example:
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with
the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in
Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with
them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever
be with the Lord.
1 Thessalonians 4:16, 17
Here, the Apostle Paul makes the same claim, and shows he believed at
that time that Christ would come in his day and that he would be alive
to meet Him.
ANOTHER ATTACK: He displays the following quotation from Ellen White
claiming that Christ would come in her day. Watch what happens...
I saw that some of those present would be food for worms, some
subjects for the seven last plagues, and some would be translated to
heaven at the second coming of Christ, without seeing death. --
Spiritual Gifts, Vol 2 (1860) pg. 208
The attacker claims this is proof of false prophecy and therefore
proof that Ellen White is a false prophet. So much did she believe
that Christ was coming in 1844, she actually claimed, according to the
wording, that there were some actually there who would not die before
Christ comes. Is the accusation therefore correct?
If that is true, get a load of another person who would be, by his own
words, a false prophet...
27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his
angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not
taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Matthew 16:27, 28
Why Christ said this can be better explained in our Adventism's
Perplexities Answered pages! But nonetheless, the man actually said
that Christ was a false prophet! It will be the path of anyone who
determines to follow even in ecclesiastical treason.
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