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Re: Court issues decision in NSA contempt case against Orthodox

by Jeffrey <Jeffreyobf@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 26, 2008 at 06:19 PM

On Apr 26, 12:14 pm, Hasl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>  I would suggest you need another judgement or
>
> > two that further establishes the facts and protects the religious
> > rights of Orthodox Baha'is in clear and unequivocal terms. That's
> > what I would think you'd want to do.
>
> It was Mason Remey's attempt to get a judgement against the NSA that
> created all of these legal problems to begin with. Now Jeffrey wants
> to argue that such court cases are contrary to the Teachings. He can
> do that, of course, but he is thereby contradicting the actions of a
> man he claims to have been the rightful Guardian. And according to
> Shoghi Effendi Guardians are supposed to be infallible in matters of
> protection.
>
> I'm not sure I agree with the Judge's finding that the subsequent
> Remeyite organizations were not formed to avoid the court order. I
> think it likely that Joel M.'s split with Mason Remey was in part a
> response to Remey's refusal to appeal the court order against them. If
> you read the court documents it is pretty clear that this court order
> made it virtually impossible for Remeyites to function in the US. I'm
> sure that caused Joel M. and Fred S. no end of frustration. But of
> course this is hard to prove and would only apply to the so-called
> Orthodox Baha'is and not the BUPC.

I don't believe the NSA-UHG's decision to sue the Wilmette NSA was a
good one.

What are you suggesting?  That because Remey allowed his NSA to file a
lawsuit, that it is alright for us to engage in contention in the
courts?  Or should we learn from the mistakes of the past on all
sides, turn to the Writings, and cease contention and conflict.

That is: cease all coercion and force, violence, and threats, legal or
otherwise, as a means of carrying forward our Faith.  Are you really
going to argue against that?

Jeffrey

Jeffrey




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Re: Court issues decision in NSA contempt case against Orthodox
Jeffrey <Jeffreyobf@[E  2008-04-26 18:19:38 
Re: Court issues decision in NSA contempt case against Orthodox
"Baha'i Censorship -  2008-04-27 07:56:54 
Re: Court issues decision in NSA contempt case against Orthodox
"Baha'i Censorship -  2008-04-29 06:41:07 
Re: Court issues decision in NSA contempt case against Orthodox
"All Bad" <A  2008-05-04 07:58:02 
Re: Court issues decision in NSA contempt case against Orthodox
"Asparagus" <  2008-05-06 10:50:32 

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