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> Shunning > Menu
> http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensor****p/Shunning.htm
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> Shoot the Messenger, Character Assassination, ETC
> http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensor****p/Shoot%20the%20Messenger.htm
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> Compare "The Bahai Technique" - Slander & Shunning
> http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensor****p/technique.htm
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> Steve Scholl on shunning family
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> Compare LaAeterna's "publicly denounce my family as heretics"
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> David Langness "cultlike practice of shunning and casting out any
> dissidents"
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> Larry Rowe - Hypocrisy of Bahai Shunning December, 2005
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> Larry Rowe - 2006 Extensive comments on shunning and slander
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> Ruletherod "shunning mentality"
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> religioustolerance.org "shunning or expelling non-conforming adherents"
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> Juan Cole on Baha'i Shunning 1 uhj denounces New Zealander as a covenant
> breaker
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> Juan Cole on Baha'i Shunning 2 "non-Baha'is are being shunned by the
> Baha'i community"
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> Juan Cole on Baha'i Shunning 3 "a form of libel as traditionally
defined"
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> Juan Cole on Baha'i Shunning 4 "Shunning is the marker of a cult."
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> Juan Cole on Baha'i Shunning 5 "institutionalization of shunning as a
> feature of everyday life"
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> Juan Cole on Baha'i Shunning 6 "Baha'is are always on heresy trial"
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> Juan Cole on Baha'i Shunning 7 "shunning is threatened or imposed"
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> Juan Cole on Baha'i Shunning 8 "sentenced to the "social death" of
> shunning"
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> Juan Cole on Baha'i Shunning 9 Does not "go back to Baha'u'llah ....
> [now] more widely used and more Draconian"
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> Jeffrey Goldberg's poignant story. I hope others will take the time to
> read and reflect on it.
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> "Baha'is have been declared covenant-breakers for other reasons,
however,
> such as refusing to shun relatives that have been
> excommunicated" in footnote #7. Karen Bacquet in "When Principle and
> Authority Collide: Baha'i Responses to the Exclusion of Women
> from the Universal House of Justice"
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> "A Dangerous Doctrine. In considering the problem of fear, let us for a
> while study the writings of Shoghi Effendi, the Guardian of
> the Cause, and see how he handles this vital subject.... The three
> published volumes of Shoghi Effendi are *Baha'i Administration,
> The World Order of Baha'u'llah* and *The Advent of Divine Justice*,
which
> works consist of the letters which he has addressed to the
> National Spiritual Assembly in the course of the last 20 years. Now, I
> have read these three books and find that the words *enemies*
> and *adversaries* are greatly featured. Baha'u'llah has said: *Consort
> with all men with joy and fragrance, yet Shoghi Effendi, in
> his very first letter, dated January 21, 1992, written after his
> assumption of the guardian****p, recommends *the absolute shunning
> of whomsoever we feel to be an enemy of the Cause. (*Bahai
Administration,
> page 16.) Now, I cannot bring myself to the point of
> believing that *absolute shunning* of whomsoever we *feel* to be the
enemy
> of the Cause is a principle of Baha'u'llah. Is every one
> going to let his *feelings* guide him in the matter? Can we not take for
> granted that frail human beings as we are, a great deal of
> personal caprice and spite may enter into our calculations as to *who*
is
> the enemy of the Bahai Cause? This is a very dangerous
> doctrine, and yet one finds it in different forms throughout Shoghi
> Effendi's communications. He practically never mentions the
> names of the *enemies* or *adversaries* to whom he constantly refers. He
> simply creates ogres and bogey men, and fills the hearts of
> the Bahais with apprehension and fear. In this way, the fountain-head of
> free and open comrade****p is dried up and the flowers of
> loving-kindness wither away" (409-410). Excerpt from Mirza Ahmad
Sohrab's
> Broken Silence: The Story of Today's Struggle for
> Religious Freedom. New York: Universal Publi****ng, 1942. Reprinted.
> H-Bahai: Lansing, Michigan, 2004.
> http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensor****p/SohrabEx.htm
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> Search Google Groups Talk.Religion.Bahai for Shunning
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> Wikipedia on Shunning (All information about the Baha'i Faith on
Wikipedia
> is controlled and dominated by fundamentalists, including
> that regarding Baha'i shunning and other Bahai denominations. The Baha'i
> morality tale of Wikipedia's shunning page appears to be
> everyone else is doing it, so why shouldn't Baha'i?)
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> For examples of how individual baha'is use slander and shunning
> to control and manipulate fellow members, see
> Susan Maneck - DRIVING people out of the Bahai Faith
> http://www.fglaysher.com/bahaicensor****p/Maneck9.htm
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> On talk.religon.bahai, a Bahai using the name of Nosrat relates his
story:
>
> "I am not angry about what they did to me and my family, although it
> was very horrific. I do not disclose how much I was hurt and how much
> emotional and financial damage they imposed on me and my family, and
> I do not want my unveiling of the occurrence contribute to the fear
> strategy of the bogus UHJ among the Baha'is.
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> "In my last meeting with the so called continental counsellor when I
> had finished my talk, she asked my wife, do you share your husband's
> belief? My wife fearfully and nervously answered: No, No, then she
> turned to me and asked don't you think and care about your wife, your
> children, your mother and the rest of the family? Surely you know
> what will happen to you. At that moment I remembered that a similar
> question was asked from the martyrs of the Faith before their
> execution, I calmly answered, I love my wife and my children and my
> family very much and they know this themselves but I love God and
> Baha'u'llah more than them. . . ."
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>
http://groups.google.com.au/group/talk.religion.bahai/msg/f13ee981d52e0537?dmode=source&hl=en
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> Compare: Shunning - "A Part of the Faith of Jehovah's Witnesses"
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> Jim Jone's People's Temple, Jonestown, Guyana, 1978:
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> "One of the powerful things that Jim used to keep us, to not think, we
> were never really allowed
> to speak to one other. I'd look around and think am I the only one who
> feels this way. I learned
> eventually not to say anything to anyone." --Grace Stoen
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> PBS American Experience website for Jonestown
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> PBS Frontline special on The Mormon Church and Dissent
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> " ... It occurred to me as I'm sitting there that if this had been in
the
> Middle Ages, if these men
> had not only the ecclesiastical power but if they had the power of the
> state, where they could give
> a physical punishment to me, I realized in this moment that they would
> have burned me at the stake.
> And they would have done it smiling, thinking that they were saving my
> soul. This is why at the end
> they can shake my hand and say, "Oh, you're such a lovely person," at
the
> same moment that they're
> saying, "We've condemned you," that you now are cut off from the church
> and the kingdom of God and
> everything else. " --Margaret Toscano.
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