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> "Bertie the Bunyip" <AA@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> .. On 21 Apr, 04:57, "Maxwell" <luv2^fly99@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> ... On Apr 21, 3:17 am, Bertie the Bunyip <T...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> > > On Apr 21, 2:07 am, Bertie the Bunyip <T...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> > >> WingFlaps <Morefl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> > >> > On Apr 20, 6:19 pm, momalle...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> > >> >> On Apr 18, 5:51 pm, WingFlaps <Morefl...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> > >> >> > On Apr 19, 7:37 am, "tom418" <amtran_c...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >> >> > > This is only an emergency because it looks good on
TV.
>> A
>>>>>> > >> >> > > gear
>>>>>> > up
>>>>>> > >> is
>>>>>> > >> >> > > not a life threatening event.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >> >> > It would have been even less of a risk and done a lot
>> less
>>>>>> > >> >> > less
>>>>>> > >> damage
>>>>>> > >> >> > to the plane if he had retracted the gear and stopped
the
>>>>>> > engines
>>>>>> > >> and
>>>>>> > >> >> > done a belly landing
>>>>>> > >> >> > .
>>>>>> > >> >> > Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >> >> Unless he had to go-around after feathering both engines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >> > Why would he want to go around after short final? Are you
>>>>>> > >> > saying
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > >> > POH says land on on one wheel? Now apply some PIC skills.
>>>>>> > >> > Which is safer, a belly landing with engines off or the
>> crash
>>>>>> > >> > landing the
>>>>>> > pilot
>>>>>> > >> > made?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > >> Actually, a partial gear landing is considered safer. I've
>> made
>>>>>> > >> on (
>>>>>> > not
>>>>>> > >> by choice, one failed on touchdown) and damage was minimal.
>> The
>>>>>> > airplane
>>>>>> > >> was flying agian the next day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > > S'funny you say that as I was reading some RAF stories from
the
>>>>>> > > war and it seemed like gear up was the way to go. The touble
>> with
>>>>>> > > one wheel down is what happens to the wing wen it catches on
>> the
>>>>>> > > ground and starts a groundloop. It seems to me that
accidental
>>>>>> > > gear ups do relativeley little damage to structure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Well, in my case it happened at high speed and we did
eventually
>>>>>> > groundloop, bt at low speed and with little damage. The left
prop
>>>>>> > got it, but the boss did a crank check and found it OK, so it
>> flew
>>>>>> > the next day. Cracked drag link was the culprit. For large
>>>>>> > aircraft, even those without underslung engines, they do
>> recommend
>>>>>> > that we take whatever is down. I know a few guys who have
landed
>>>>>> > completely wheels up and the damage was pretty heavy. A Beech
99,
>>>>>> > for instance ( lots of those have been wheels up)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For the Gulfstream III landing with any two (2) gear legs down
and
>>>>>> locked is preferred to landing
>>>>>> with only one gear down or all gear up. Should only one gear be
>>>>>> extended, it is recommended
>>>>>> that the gear be retracted and an all gear up landing be
performed.
>>>>>> Landing with only
>>>>>> the nose gear down and locked is specifically not recommended.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you know why it would be different for heavies?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, but I sure he will make something up. He has a better
>> imagination
>>>>>> than MX.- Hide quoted text -
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>>>>>
>>>>> Aww, not really, I can't imagine you being a pilot, for instance.
>>>>>
>>>>> Trust me, we all realize your lack of imagination.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Wait a second, you just sed I had a large imagination.
>>>>
>>>> Whick is it wannabe boi?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Read between the lines wanna be troll, I was calling you a liar.
>>
>>
>> Yeh, very effective. Calling me a liar by lying.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Damn, If I have to explain everything in detail, you're going to
have
>> to
>>> come back when you are sober.
>>>
>>
>> Oh explain away fjukktard!
>>
>> I'm all ears.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bertie
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Ah, nothing to say..
You really don't get it do you fjukkkwit?
Bertie
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