Re: Death of Zoya Krakhmalnikova

Catawumpus wrote:

>Steve Hayes <hayesmstw@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>Michael Bourdeaux, The Guardian, Tuesday May 13 2008 ...
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>>>>Krakhmalnikova became an active democrat, calling on leaders of the 
>>>>Orthodox church to repent of its collaboration with the 
>>>>authorities (which they never did).
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>Catawumpus <kimmerian@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>     First things first, tho:  has the Orthodox church _stopped_
>>>collaborating with the authorities?
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>John W Kennedy <jwkenne@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>For better or for worse, the Eastern Church has pretty much been in that

>>position for the last seventeen centuries.
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>     That's my impression, too.  Never heard much about Eastern 
>Orthodoxy leading the fight against the Czars -- either the 
>old ones or their modern successors -- though there may be some
>honorable exceptions.  Same thing in the West:  Church and 
>Empire have been linked since antiquity, though Christians like
>Kierkegaard protest violently.
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>-- Catawumpus
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WEll, there's bad and then there is anti-Christian, i.e. evil.  So, you 
do see a fight against the Mongols, later a large effort against the 
Ottomans and other Islamic invaders, but nothing large against serfdome 
outside some intellectuals and writers.