Talk About Network

Google


Register and Login
Nick
Password
Register create new account Sign up is FREE and you can post replies, new topics, bookmark posts and more!
Recover lost password


Religion > Politics of Religion > Re: The Message...
Latest [ Topics | Posts ] Archive Post A New Topic Post a Reply
<< Topic < Post Post 10 of 18 Topic 4541 of 4692
Post > Topic >>

Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years

by "Peter H.M. Brooks" <Peter.H.M.Brooks@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 6, 2008 at 11:26 PM

On May 7, 7:44=A0am, Steve Hayes <hayesm...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On Tue, 6 May 2008 21:51:40 -0700 (PDT), "Peter H.M. Brooks"
>
> <Peter.H.M.Bro...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >On May 6, 9:50=A0pm, "Jenicek" <Jeni...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >> And I bet you will start shouting again, if the church start
condemning=

> >> reverse race discrimination at present in full speed in SA!
>
> >I don't think that it is accurate to call Black Executive Enrichment
> >and the Ethnic Cleansing of the Workplace 'reverse' race
> >discrimination - they are direct racial discriminiation. Denying
> >somebody a job that he is qualified for simply because of the colour
> >of his skin is, and always has been, racial discrimination and it is
> >wrong.
>
> You need to get your terms straight. It's Black Elite Enrichment.
>
The recent Vodacom deal seems to be enriching Black Executives, so I
think that is part of it. You're right, though, it is not the poor it
is aimed at, whether it is executives or the 'elite'. Is it, though,
really aimed at a genuine 'Elite' - isn't a group of rich but
underserving people an oligarchy, not an elite? An elite is a good
thing, remember, something to admire and to aspire to.
>
> >It was also strange to meet coloured nurses in New Zealand, senior
> >nurses, actually, who had also left because of racial discrimination.
> >It isn't quite so easy for coloured people, since they are also
> >'previously disadvantaged' [as the phrase has it], but not
> >sufficiently 'previously disadvantaged' to benefit from the racism.
>
> The advantage of using weasel words like "previously disadvantaged" is
tha=
t
> they can be used to cover the presently advantaged and make them sound
har=
d
> done by, while ignoring the plight of the currently disadvantaged, black
a=
nd
> white.
>
Well quite - though I don't think many white people who were actually
disadvantaged by Apartheid are considered members of the club.
 




 18 Posts in Topic:
The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-06 05:53:58 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
"- .. -- Tim .-.&quo  2008-05-06 08:27:28 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
++ <friend@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-06 11:31:50 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
"Jenicek" <J  2008-05-06 15:50:43 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
"Peter H.M. Brooks&q  2008-05-06 21:51:40 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-07 07:44:27 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
Zvakanaka <lalapansi@[  2008-05-11 10:39:35 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
"OrthodoxNews"   2008-05-11 07:57:42 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-11 21:12:19 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
"Peter H.M. Brooks&q  2008-05-06 23:26:52 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
charley <varrick57@[EM  2008-05-13 18:49:45 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
++ <friend@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-14 00:31:39 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-14 07:00:14 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
charley <varrick57@[EM  2008-05-14 06:38:46 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-15 08:07:10 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
charley <varrick57@[EM  2008-05-14 06:39:34 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
Steve Hayes <hayesmstw  2008-05-15 08:04:07 
Re: The Message to the people of South Africa after 40 years
RichMacDonald <rich@[E  2008-05-07 02:35:22 

Post A Reply:
  Go here to Signup

AddThis Feed Button


About - Advertising - Contact - Frequently Asked Questions - Privacy Policy - Terms of Use - Signup

Contact
tan13V112 Fri Jul 25 16:45:00 CDT 2008.