My Christian brethren, I urge each and every one who deals with Robert
"Bible Bob" Sowle to copy and keep on hand the following text file to use
as
do***entation and public evidence whenever "Bible Bob" denies he has said
something (and he usually does), been dishonest and/or spread heresy. If
you
notice, "Bible Bob" regularly denies saying or doing something when in
fact
he did. In most cases it centered around some form of heresy and
deception,
a routine deed of "Bible Bob." As an answer to "Bible Bob"'s challenge to
prove "just one" lie that he told, I began to compile direct examples of
"Bible Bob" dishonesty, heresy, malice, slander, smears, character
assassination attempts and other forms of deception directly from his own
posts. I will continue to update it for the foreseeable future and as time
allows. I hope this will aid you in your dealings with "Bible Bob" Sowle.
As
for me, I will comply with the Biblical instructions on how to deal with a
heretic and have nothing to do with "Bible Bob" even though he rapidly
descends into desperation. "Bible Bob" is incapable of speaking the truth
in
love and instead regularly spews forth words of malice, slander, deception
and hatred which are condemned by God. "Bible Bob" has shown himself as
rebelling against God's Word since "Bible Bob" has rejected essential
elements of Biblical Christianity and teaches heresies in lieu of
Scriptural
truth. Since "Bible Bob" rejects all correction from Christians and has
been
duly warned in accordance with scripture, it is God's Word that declares
"Bible Bob" a heretic and a ravenous wolf in a sheep disguise. As a
Christian and in accordance to God's instructions, I forgive "Bible Bob"
of
his transgressions against me and will pray for him and I encourage all my
Christian brethren to do the same. But also in accordance to God's
instructions I will have nothing to do with him at all in the future.
Instead I will continue to wor****p Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior and
praise His name. I will continue to share Biblical lessons, sermons and
articles from and by other Christians. And I will continue to engage in
civil discourse with other people willing to remain civil as well.
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
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Do***ented Hypocrisy, Lies, And Heresies From "Bible Bob" Sowle
The following text file is in response to a challenge made by "Bible Bob"
Sowle to show ANY lie "Bible Bob" committed. I took him up on his
challenge
and over time have accurately do***ented many lies and heresies posted on
Usenet from "Bible Bob" Sowle via his own words. I urge my Christian
brethren to save this file and examine "Bible Bob" Sowle's own words and
see
if they hold up as examples of Christian behavior as taught in the Bible
or
do they show someone falsely claiming to be Christian but bears so much
bad
fruit that it becomes obvious they are nothing but a fraud and a sham?
Also
use it and quote from it whenever "Bible Bob" denies that he lies or
denies
a specific incident that may actually be do***ent herein.
{Part 2}
[February 8, 2007]
"I know you [Carl] like playing God and love to wor****p men who play God"
[More "Bible Bob" lies. I'm not "playing God" nor ever have been. This
goes
to show once again how the heretic known as "Bible Bob" uses libelous
personal attacks. And predictably "Bible Bob" trots out (or rather drags
out) his dead horse which is his false accusation that I wor****p men. God
warned us that heretics like "Bible Bob" would resort to such wicked
tactics. God was right about "Bible Bob" Sowle and all heretics like him.
"Bible Bob" claims to be a disciple of God but demonstates by his bad
fruit
that he is not one of God's disciple and is instead a pawn of satan.
"Bible
Bob" is, according to God, an evil man who is self-condemned.]
"you [Carl] are arrogant self centered a despiser of God and you are
antichrist" [I've never despised God. More godless chatter from "Bible
Bob"
Sowle. And if anyone is antichrist, it is "Bible Bob" Sowle since he
teaches
a false Jesus among his many heresies. "Bible Bob" denies the deity of
Jesus
Christ although it is clearly taught in scripture. This is one of the
reasons why "Bible Bob" is a heretic and should be treated as such in
accordance with scripture.]
"You [Carl] preach the same lie as other fear mongers who hate God" [I
hold
to orthodox Christian beliefs and reject the lies and heresies "Bible Bob"
Sowle teaches. I am no "fear monger" nor do I hate God. This is more libel
from "Bible Bob" Sowle.]
"It is you, Carl, that are promoting God as an evil murderer of of His own
children." [I have never done as "Bible Bob" accuses. "Bible Bob" is going
to have to answer for all the lies and deceptions when he is judged. Being
a
heretic, "Bible Bob" is self-condemned according to scripture.]
"It is you, Carl, who denies the Deity of Jesus Christ and God and holy
spirit." [Well anyone who has read any of my posts know this to be
completely untrue and libelous statements by "Bible Bob" Sowle. Quite the
contrary, "Bible Bob" vehemently denied and continues to deny the Deity of
Jesus Christ and the Deity of the Holy Spirit. If "Bible Bob" embraced the
Biblical teachings of the Deity of Jesus Christ and the Deity of the Holy
Spirit he would then have to also embrace the Biblical teaching of the
Deity
of the Father. And as such, "Bible Bob" would have to accept the orthodoxy
of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit which is the Holy
Trinity. Yet, "Bible Bob" denies the Biblical doctrine of the Holy
Trinity.
"Bible Bob" can't have it both ways. His denial of scriptural orthodoxy
and
teaching of unbiblical doctrine is why he is a ungodly and unholy
heretic.]
"you [Carl] teach that God and Jesus Christ are haters and murderers who
will kill anyone that does not obey you [Carl]" [Boy if he weren't being
serious that ridiculous claim would highly humorous. I've never taught
that
God and Jesus Christ are haters and murderer nor have I ever taught that
they kill anyone who doesn't obey me. Neither "Bible Bob" nor anyone else
can produce a single, do***ented post where I have stated either of those
in
any way, fa****on or form. "Bible Bob"'s wickedness is definitely satanic
in
origin.]
[February 7, 2008]
We have one sure thing we can count on from Carl; advertising of his web
site. [It's quite hypocritical for "Bible Bob" to complain about me
including URL's to my personal blog and my personal website but having no
problems with countless others who do the same. Further, how does "Bible
Bob" end his posts? With the following:
BB
http://www.biblebob.net
Hypocrisy, thou art "Bible Bob" Sowle (at least on this point).]
January 13, 2008
"You have a lot of nerve, hypocrite. It is you that day after day posts
profanity." [I have never used profanity in any of my Usenet posts. This
is
a blatant "Bible Bob" lie {tm}]
"You pretend like you have the authority to say who is and who is not
saved
and I would wager that you are so ignorant of the Scriptures that you
cannot
prove that you are saved." [Again "Bible Bob" commits libel. I have never
claimed, assumed nor implied to be able to determine who is or is not
saved.
That is something between God and the individual. I can show what the
Bible
teaches that we have to do to be saved and that is believe on the Lord
Jesus
Christ.]
"Carl has begun sicking his man gods on you." ["Bible Bob" being
predictable
brings up one of his favorite forms of character assassination: the "man
god" lie. He's used it often and it is still just as false and wicked of
an
accusation now as it was when he first used the lie.]
"As best I can tell Hymenaen comes from the Greek hymen." [Now this is
interesting. "As best I can tell."??? "Bible Bob" is a self-proclaimed
Bible
expert as well as self-proclaimed Greek expert yet he is unsure and knows
not where this comes from. Let me bring this to his attention. Hymenaeus
was
a blasphemer to which Paul refers in 1 Timothy 1:20 who had Christian
faith
but thrust it away and who had a good conscience through believing, but
made
****pwreck of it. Paul also refers to Hymenaeus as an ungodly man spreading
godless chatter like the plague. Just like "Bible Bob" Sowle incidentally.
One of the doctrines which Hymeneus held was, that the "resurrection was
past already" (2 Tim 2:18) hence full preterists like Dave are correctly
described as holding to a false doctrine of Hymenaen Preterism. Just goes
to
show "Bible Bob" isn't nearly as knowledgeable about the Holy Scriptures
as
he claims.]
January 10, 2008
[The following is "Bible Bob"'s deceitful attempt to misrepresent
Christian
fundamentalism.]
"Fundamantalism [sic] is one of the evils permitted by God. So called
Christian fundamentalists have the legal right to lie, deceive, and do all
of the other evil things that fundamantalists [sic] do in the name of God.
Fundamentalists love free will for themselves because by it they can hurt
and mame [sic] and make themselves to be gods in their own eyes.
But fundamentalists don't like other people to express themselves because
there is always the risk to the fundamentalist that his lies and
deceptions
and arrogance and pride will be exposed. Fundamentalists are almost always
very ignorant about what the Scriptures actually say and must rely on "I
say
so, therefore it is and if you don't believe and do as I say you will burn
in hell." That is the extent of their intelligence. Ignorant people who
want to stay ignorant, stay ignorant and strike out at anyone who does not
think and behave the way that they want them to.
So feel free to write what you want and if they don't like it they can go
to
hell; the place they seem to love so much. Be warned, however, that these
messengers of Satan, thorns in the flesh of us real Christians will
harrass
[sic] you and lie about you and snip your posts and call you names because
that's what messengers of Satan do. They serve their god and for you to
expect for them not to serve their god, the accuser; then you need to
think
again. The dog returns to his vomit. While they are lapping up, post away
and let them expose themselves as fools by their own words and deeds."
[Here's the proper definition of Christian fundamentalism:
Encyclopædia Britannica Article
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9035662/Christian-fundamentalism
"movement in American Protestantism that arose in the late 19th century in
reaction to theological modernism, which aimed to revise traditional
Christian beliefs to accommodate new developments in the natural and
social
sciences, especially the advent of the theory of biological evolution. In
keeping with traditional Christian doctrines concerning biblical
interpretation, the mission of Jesus Christ, and the role of the church in
society, fundamentalists affirmed a core of Christian beliefs that
included
the historical accuracy of the Bible, the imminent and physical Second
Coming of Jesus Christ, and Christ's Virgin Birth, Resurrection (see
resurrection), and Atonement (see atonement). Fundamentalism became a
significant phenomenon in the early 20th century and remained an
influential
movement in American society into the 21st century."
Recommended books listed in the article:
George W. Dollar, A History of Fundamentalism in America (1973, reissued
1983); and George M. Marsden, Understanding Fundamentalism and
Evangelicalism (1991), are im****tant introductions to the history of
fundamentalism. Jerry Falwell (ed.), The Fundamentalist Phenomenon: The
Resurgence of Conservative Christianity (1981, reissued 1986), is a study
of
the movement by one of its leaders. Timothy P. Weber, Living in the Shadow
of the Second Coming: American Premillennialism, 1875-1982, enlarged ed.
(1983, reissued 1987), traces the influence of an apocalyptic doctrine on
American religious life. Marla J. Selvidge (ed.), Fundamentalism Today:
What
Makes It So Attractive (1984), is a useful collection of essays. Bruce B.
Lawrence, Defenders of God: The Fundamentalist Revolt Against the Modern
Age
(1989, reissued 1995), examines fundamentalism in Christianity, Islam, and
Judaism. Henry M. Morris, History of Modern Creationism, 2nd ed. (1993),
is
a survey of the movement. Clyde Wilcox and Carin Larson, Onward Christian
Soldiers?: The Religious Right in American Politics, 3rd ed. (2006),
examines the role of fundamentalist Christians in American politics.
[Why does "Bible Bob" Sowle attack Christian fundamentalism in such a
deceitful and hateful manner? The real reason may never be completely
known
but one can speculate based upon "Bible Bob"'s past behavior as a heretic
and habitual liar. It could very well be that Christian fundamentalists
and
fundamentalism is a threat to "Bible Bob" and his attacks are the result
of
being exposed as a heretic and false teacher with no legitimacy whatsoever
by God as pointed out by Christian fundamentalist principles. So he
attempts
to demonize Christians in his usual misrepresentative and deceitful ways.
This further proves that "Bible Bob" Sowle is a heretic with an antichrist
spirit (keep in mind, "Bible Bob" denies the deity of Jesus Christ) who
has
a darkened, hardened heart devoid of the Holy Spirit. "Bible Bob" whether
intentional or not is being used and abused as an agent of Satan. I ask my
Christian brethren to keep "Bible Bob" in your prayers in the hope that he
will be released from the bondage of heresy and antichrist spirit and
become
a loving brother in Christ.]
January 4, 2008
"Is it right that you have elevated yourself to the position of God and
that
you make unrighteous judgments based on false doctrines?" [This comment
wasn't
aimed at me per se, but shows the unintentional, perhaps even Freudian,
self-descriptive nature of "Bible Bob" barbs since "Bible Bob" has been
making "unrighteous judgments based on false doctrines" for quite some
time.
Typical for a heretic.]
"The New Testament tells us explicitly that Jesus was crucified for
"making
[Himself] equal with God"." [Once again, "Bible Bob" denies the deity of
Jesus Christ.]
"Jesus Christ being in the nature of God (spirit) thought it not robbery
to
be "isos" similar yet not identical to God." ["Bible Bob" once again
denies
the deity of Jesus Christ while also showing his ineptitude for
translating
Koine Greek in context and in totality of the Bible. Remember, several
Biblical language experts have examined "Bible Bob"'s attempts at Greek
grammar and all of them concluded that "Bible Bob" is not a reliable
source
for Koine Greek translating.]
"He did not claim to be God; only to be of the divine nature (spirit) and
in
that sense similaer [sic] to God." [Actually the Bible clearly teaches
that
Jesus is God not just similar to God as "Bible Bob" espouses. Further
evidence of "Bible Bob"'s heretical nature.]
"Jesus did not think or state that He was God." [Actually, He did.]
"There is absolutely no possibility of a trinity in the books Matthew
through Jude." [Actually the Bible, taken in totality, does indeed teach
the
doctrine of the Trinity {God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy
Spirit}.
Interesting how "Bible Bob" picks and chooses what ****tions of the Bible
as
relevant.]
"Trinitarians are liars; therefore the trinity is a lie." [A logical
fallacy
from "Bible Bob" Sowle. Conclusion based on false premise. Since the
Trinity
has been proven conclusively to be taught in the Bible, "Bible Bob"s
denial
of it is more heresy on his part. Please note that in order to sup****t his
heresy, "Bible Bob" Sowle has to resort to dishonesty: dishonest exegesis,
dishonest Biblical language translations, dishonest reasoning - dishonesty
typical of heretics.]
"Every verse that trinitarians use to prove a trinity has been shown to
prove just the opposite." [This is an example of a "Bible Bob" lie {tm}
since the passages that show the Trinity to be Biblical have not been
"shown
to prove just the opposite" by "Bible Bob" nor anyone else. "Bible Bob"'s
false claim is no more true the last time he made it nor will it become
true
even if he shouts it from the rooftops countless more times. Biblical
language experts that have taken the time to examine "Bible Bob"'s
interpretation of Scripture and grammatical translations have unanimously
concluded that "Bible Bob" intentionally misinterprets scripture, takes
passages out of context, intentionally mistranslates Koine Greek,
intentionally misapplies Greek grammatical rules {including making many up
that don't exist}, etc all in a heretical attempt to promote his own
unBiblical and wicked agenda. He is being used as an agent of Satan to
promote confusion and heresy in an evil attempt to lead believers away
from
Biblical truth. This has been shown time and time again by many Christians
over the years and "Bible Bob"'s rotten fruit is clearly and accurately
do***ented in this text file as well as Usenet.]
"Hypocrite. You prove yourself to be antichrist yet have the audacity to
throw rocks at others just because they won't believe your false
doctrines.
What other created being is that arrogant? His initials are Satan." [In
this attack on someone else, "Bible Bob" Sowle just accurately and
thoroughly described himself.]
"Duke, according to the word of God I am able." [According to the Word of
God, "Bible Bob" is a heretic.]
January 3, 2008
"It is you [Carl] who preaches separatist doctrines such as must believe
in
a trinity to be saved; God will murder His own children, Jesus was not
raised from the dead, wor****p men in lieu of God, Christians will burn in
hell, etc." [Now "Bible Bob" lies about what I have posted. Please note
that
"Bible Bob" routinely makes these accusations but never shows any posts as
evidence. I, on the other hand, have shown the "Bible Bob" lies {tm} ever
since "Bible Bob" challenged me to do so. He's added some new whoppers
now,
such as accusing me of teaching that "Jesus was not raised from the dead"
which is absurd since I never made such a statement. And as predictable as
"Bible Bob" is, he throws in a "wor****p men in lieu of God" false
accusation
once again. This once again gives evidence of the heretical antichrist
nature of "Bible Bob" Sowle.]
""Christianity" is a pagan religion not mentioned in the bible." [And this
comment from "Bible Bob" Sowle should remove all doubt concerning his
spirit
of antichrist and his heretical nature.]
"Christianity is just another religion not too different from Islam and
other say one thing do another religions." [Another clearcut example of
"Bible Bob"'s false teachings.]
December 31, 2007
"You might point out that I have not either because I nor anyone else has
access to the actual originals. However, I have ways of finding out what
the
originals said, without having the originals. Unfortunately, those ways
are
Top Secret and you do not have a need to know." [These "Bible Bob" quotes
were not directed at me however these were so bizarre I felt their
inclusion
was warranted. Perhaps "Bible Bob" posted these completely
tongue-in-cheek.
Perhaps not. With heretics like "Bible Bob" outrageous claims are
sometimes
made.]
December 30, 2007
"I am not a Creationist or a YEC. I am a Christian; but, I read Genesis
differently than Creationists and other subcults of the religion of
Christianity do. There is no seven day creation account in Genesis, for
example." [Interesting. "Bible Bob" now contradicts what the Bible clearly
teaches. Anyone still question whether "Bible Bob" is a heretic?]
"You gave Carl an open door with your earlier question which he could have
used to find some common ground with you. Then he gave you an open door
through which you could have entered and changed his diaper." ["Bible Bob"
must believe that making insults is a Christlike behavior. Well, as usual,
he is wrong and such behavior only further proves that he lacks the Holy
Spirit in his heart and his heart is full of darkness and wickedness. Pray
for "Bible Bob."]
December 27, 2007
"You [Carl] are a lousy ambassador and you work against God by your [Carl]
evil behavior." [What "Bible Bob" falsely accuses as being "evil behavior"
isn't.]
"You are without excuse because you have been warned several times."
[Being
warned by a heretic like "Bible Bob" is to be ignored according to
scripture. Being warned by atheists is to be ignored according to
scripture.
Being warned by mockers of God is to be ignored according to scripture.
Being warned by those God calls "fools" is to be ignored according to
scripture.]
"Second, you [Carl] do not try to overcome evil with good; rather you try
to
overcome evil with evil." [A "Bible Bob" lie {tm}. Citing scripture to
illustrate is not overcoming evil with evil. You'd almost think "Bible
Bob"
is implying that Scripture is evil. Almost.]
"Third, pretending to be an ambassador you [Carl] declare war against
those
you were commissioned to reconcile to God." [A "Bible Bob" lie {tm}.]
"Atheists, heretics (you [Carl] don't even know what a heretic really is -
it would be someone like you [Carl] who preaches false docrines [sic],
promotes division, etc), agnostics, mockers of God need saved. It is your
job to get them saved. Rather than try to save them you call them names
using the word of God deceitfully." ["Bible Bob", the proven heretic who
preaches false doctrine describes himself. Secondly, we are to present the
Gospel and spread the Gospel. Whether someone is saved is between God and
them. "Bible Bob"'s idea of what a Christian's job consists of is once
again
off the mark.]
"Your [Carl] fruit is rotten. You [Carl] manifest no fruit of the spirit;
only arrogance, false pride, and other works of the flesh." [And once
again,
through his own false accusations, "Bible Bob" accurately and thoroughly
describes himself. As do***ented by this text do***ent as well as Usenet
Google searches and also evidenced by testimony of others, "Bible Bob"
produces bad fruit.]
"You [Carl] deliberately quote scriptures addressed specifically to Israel
aganst Gentiles. Psalm 14:1 was spoken by the David the man of God to the
Chief Musician of Israel. The fool spoken of is a person that has been
raised to know God but refuses to know God. It speaks about a child of
Isreal [sic]; not Gentiles." [It's amazing that "Bible Bob" attempts to
pick
and choose what parts of the Bible are relevant to we Christians and which
are irrelevant. The whole Bible, both Old & New Testaments, are completely
relevant to all believers. Scripture is very clear on this. 2 Timothy
3:16,17: All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching,
rebuking,
correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be
thoroughly equipped for every good work. "Bible Bob" would have you
believe
that ****tions of scripture are irrelevant to Christians and may be
ignored.
When the Bible states that a fool says in his heart "there is no God" that
is still applicable today and Christians need to recognize the im****tance
of
whom God considers fools. My citing specific scripture shows how God feels
about those who reject Him.]
"You [Carl] are becoming one very sick individual. It is due in part to
your [Carl] arrogance and refusal to repent of your [Carl] evil behavior.
You [Carl] are on you way down, Carl. You [Carl] are on the road to
becoming a heretick. Read the verses Carl; they describe YOU [Carl]."
[Y'know,
"Bible Bob"s false accusations are quite repetitive as if he thinks by
posting them over and over again might make them become true. God has
richly
blessed me in so many ways, the greatest is that I am saved by His Grace
through my Lord & Savior Jesus Christ whom my faith is in. Nothing "Bible
Bob" can do or say changes that fact. As to me becoming heretical, "Bible
Bob" is blowing smoke in a feable attempt to misdirect the reader into
forgetting that "Bible Bob" is the proven, well-do***ented heretic, not
I.]
"You [Carl] have been given much doctrine, reproof, and correction -
admonished many times." [When a proven heretic like "Bible Bob" offers
false
doctrine as he does, his reproof and correction according to God are to be
rejected.]
"Yet you [Carl] refuse to repent of your [Carl] evil ways." ["Bible Bob"'s
accusation of evil ways is false. "Bible Bob" is attempting to smear.]
"You [Carl] are becoming more and more subverted and this post is abo****e
[sic] proof that you [Carl] sin are are [sic] condemned of yourself. Out
of
your [Carl] own mouth (via your fingers) came the judgment against
yourself.
Again, it is the goodness of God that leads men to repentance. Evil is
overcome by good; not evil. Here is proof, from yesterday, that you [Carl]
were warned about wrongly dividing the word of God towards unbelievers.
It
is fools like you [Carl] that refuse to believe [sic] the word of God that
make it hard for us "real" Christians to get through to unbeleivers [sic]
so
that they might be saved. You [Carl] need to stop serving Satan the
accuser,
and start serving the Lord Jesus Christ." [It's amazing how "Bible Bob"
actually describes himself in his false accusations against me. Please
note
"Bible Bob"'s continued unrepentant, unChristian and unGodly words and
deeds. Please note that "Bible Bob" continues to misrepresent others which
is a clear example of doing evil. Furthermore, "Bible Bob"'s false
accusation that I am serving Satan is patently absurd, shows "Bible Bob"s
abusive nature and exposes his wicked nature. By their fruit you shall
know
them and as has been well-do***ented, "Bible Bob"'s fruit is rotten.]
"I am not a prophet and do not have the God given authority to call Carl
McCasky [sic] a heretik." [However in an earlier post, that's exactly what
"Bible Bob" does. However, "Bible Bob" once again makes it appear that God
grants discernment to only a very few when in fact, in regards to heresies
and heretics, God makes it clear that anyone teaching unBiblical doctrine
is
teaching heresies and if they reject proper warnings they are a heretic
and
should be rejected. Anyone who teaches doctrine that is unbiblical is
indeed
a heretic according to scripture. "Bible Bob" has been exposed on numerous
occasions as one who teaches unbiblically, especially on essential
doctrines
such as the deity of Jesus Christ, the deity of the Holy Spirit and the
Trinity. God grants all Christians, through His Word, the ability to
recognize false teachings by studying the Bible in a Bereanic manner.]
"There is nothing in the Scriptures that authorizes lay people; or
pastors,
or evangelists or teachers to make such a determination about a child of
God." [Once again, "Bible Bob" teaches falsely about what the Scriptures
instructs. The warnings concerning heresies and heretics are intended for
and aimed at today's Christians and are a relevant today as they were in
Biblical times. "Bible Bob"'s attempt to make them irrelevant to
Christians
today is simply wrong and unBiblical. Typical for the heretic like "Bible
Bob."]
"Over the past several days Carl McCasky [sic] has been attacking
non-Christians using the word of God deceitfully." [I have attacked no one
while "Bible Bob" has, on the other hand, repetitively attacked me and
others. Quite hypocritical of "Bible Bob" Sowle. The scripture I cited of
which "Bible Bob" refers reflects God's teachings to we Christians
concerning fools and liars.]
"He has been corrected several times; but refuses to accept the
admonitions
and refuses to repent of his evil behavior towards those whom God "may"
have
chosen to be children of God." [Corrections from heretics like "Bible Bob"
are to be ignored according to Scripture. And where in scripture does it
say
those who reject God "may" be chosen to be children of God. At some point
they may, in fact accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, but as
long
as they reject God, they are not children of God by Biblical standards.
Once
again "Bible Bob" includes non-Christians in the body of Christ whereas
God
makes it plain that non-Christians are not part of the body of Christ.]
"A primary responsibility of every Christian is to serve the Lord Jesus
Christ as an ambassador with the goal of reconciling men to God. To do
this
God gave us both the word of reconcilation [sic] and the ministry of
reconcilation [sic]. It is by speaking the truth in love to unbelievers
that unbeleivers [sic] become saved. Faith cometh by hearing the word of
God. The word of God is not the word of God unless it is rigjtly
[sic]divided. Therefore, faith cometh by hearing the rightly divided word
of truth." [Once again "Bible Bob" is off the mark due to his wrongly
dividing the Word of God. He comes close but deviates. Furthermore, my
posts
have indeed been speaking the truth in love to anyone who cares to read
the
Biblically sound sermons, lessons and articles written by Godly authors.
Since "Bible Bob" teaches heresies, he is obviously not rightly dividing
the
Word of God and therefore he is off the mark once again.]
"Today, Carl posted a post titled "Fools and Liars" in which be proved
himself to be a fool and a liar while calling others fools and liars."
[Actually, "Bible Bob" is once again attempting to misrepresent what I
posted. The scriptures I cited is what GOD says about fools and liars so
in
short, "Bible Bob" is objecting to God calling certain types of
individuals
"fools" and "liars." It's not the first time "Bible Bob" has spoken out
against God and until he repents, it more than likely won't be the last.]
"He opens by asking how God addresses fools and liars in the context of
unbelievers. God does not speak directly to unbelievers except by
prophets,
ambassadors, angels, or some form of phenomena because God is spirit and
does not communicate directly with the flesh." [Now "Bible Bob" becomes so
desperate that he resorts to semantic games. In my post I used the word
"addresses" in terms of "to deal with or discuss" which is one of the
proper
definitions of the word. In regards to the verses from Psalms, Proverbs
and
Ecclesiastes, God is telling us who the fools and liars are, what they
tend
to do and that we should not respond to them else we will end up lowering
ourselves to their level. So I have properly cited the scripture which
tells
clearly how God feels about fools and liars.]
"For Carl to alledge [sic] that God communicates with unbelievers violates
[sic] one of the most basic tenants of Christianity and promotes the false
doctrine that natural man does not need to be saved to communicate with
God." [Since I never alleged that God communicates with unbelievers in
the
post to which "Bible Bob" refers this can only be explained as another
"Bible Bob" lie {tm} and yet another attempt at smear.]
"Carl wrote the following hate post aimed at unbelievers:" [I wrote no
hate
post. However the hatred and vitriol that originates from "Bible Bob"'s
posts is well known and well do***ented.]
"Carl cites passages from Psalms and Proverbs attemptinmg to deceive
unbelievers into thinkinmg [sic] that those verses are wrtitten to them
[sic]. That is a blatant misrepresentation and a deliberate wrong dividing
of the word of truth. Every one of the versers addresses Israel; not
Gentiles which is what atheists, agnostics, and the like would be."
[Actually those passages are quite relevant to Christians today and in
fact
according to the Scriptures ALL of the Bible is God-breathed and is useful
for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that
the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work. {2 Timothy
3:16,17}. However this isn't the first time that "Bible Bob" has
cherry-picked which scripture he personally feels is relevant for
Christians
and which is not. Let's look at the difference: God says ALL Scripture is
for believers while "Bible Bob" says only SOME Scripture is for believers.
Whom do you believe? God? Or "Bible Bob" Sowle. I'll side with God.]
"To make matters worse, Carl showed his ignorance of the Scriptures by
putting atheists, agnostics, hereticks, and mockers of God in the same
class." [Once again "Bible Bob" is attempting to misrepresent my point in
a
feeble and desperate attempt to smear. I put atheists, agnostics, heretics
and mockers of God together in regards to all of them being outside the
body
of Christ. That is quite scriptural and Christians know this to be true.
As
long as they reject God, teach false doctrine and/or mock God, all of them
remain unGodly. It is only if they repent of their wicked ways can they be
a
part of the body of Christ.]
"A heretick is not in the same class with atheists and agnostics because a
heretick is a person who has departed from the faith." ["Bible Bob"'s
definition of a heretic doesn't follow the scriptural definition. A
heretic
is anyone who teaches false doctrine. This includes frauds who never had
faith to begin with. It is also interesting to read part of "Bible Bob"'s
personal definition includes departure from the faith because in other
posts, "Bible Bob" stated quite clearly that one cannot depart from the
faith. "Bible Bob" wrote (and I quote): "a child of God cannot backslide
out
of the family of God" (e.g. - depart from the faith) yet here "Bible Bob"
claims that "a heretick is a person who has departed from the faith." So
"Bible Bob" is trying to have it both ways. This shows once again that
"Bible Bob" is unable and/or unwilling to rightly divide scripture. "Bible
Bob" can not remain consistent.]
"Carl, apparently thinks himself very righteous for posting such
foolishness
and that points to a lack of a sound spiritual mind." [I post Bible verses
out of obedience of God's instructions. So here "Bible Bob" says it is
foolish to post scripture in a proper, Biblical manner as I have been
doing.
As to "Bible Bob"'s claim that I lack a sound spiritual mind.just another
"Bible Bob" lie {tm}.]
"Carl is behaving like a heretick in that he has been admonished and shown
from the word of God that his behavior is wrong on more than one occassion
[sic]; yet he continues to behave the same way." [Actually it has only
been
"Bible Bob" who has condescendingly admonished, however he has not rightly
divided the Word of God in his posts for the most part and has taught
unBiblical doctrine and continues to teach unBiblical doctrine although he
has been duly warned by Christians, including myself, time and time again.
Therefore, by God's own words, "Bible Bob" is a heretic who, according to
scriptures, is to be rejected along with all he says until and unless he
repents. So far "Bible Bob" shows no indication of doing so. But we
Christians can and should pray for him.]
"He condemned his ownself [sic] by calling people fools and liars while
lying and behaving like a fool." [Once again, to point out the truth
{check
my post itself}, I have cited scripture that shows how GOD feels about
fools
and liars. So basically "Bible Bob" is therefore saying that "Bible Bob"
feels that God is condemning Himself. Now "Bible Bob" blasphemes?]
"Carl will not listen to me because his pride and arrogance prevent him
from
doing so." [No. I listen not to "Bible Bob" Sowle because God instructs
Christians not to listen to heretics and liars like "Bible Bob." Listening
and paying heed to any heretic is to wander off the Godly path. This
further
illustrates, "Bible Bob" wicked nature. Ironically "Bible Bob" demands
others listen to him unconditionally which shows clearly "Bible Bob"'s
arrogance and superiority complex.]
"He wor****ps men gods in lieuf [sic] of God and since I am not John
MacArthur or Billy Graham; he will not listen to me." [Predictably, "Bible
Bob" once again falsely accuses me of wor****pping men. A "Bible Bob" lie
{tm} he regularly trots out even though no one buys it. Furthermore, I
don't
respond to "Bible Bob" directly nor accept anything he says because God
says
we Christians are not to have anything to do with heretics like "Bible
Bob"
Sowle.]
"Ratrher [sic] than learn the word of God and learn how to communciate
[sic]
with people, Carl becomes haughty and begins calling people names."
[Another
"Bible Bob" lie {tm}. I have not called other people names. I have pointed
out what God calls those who say there is no God and have pointed out what
God has taught concerning heretics and false teachers. And "Bible Bob"
fits
God's description of a false teacher and a heretic. Therefore rightly
dividing scripture as I have done regarding false teachers and heretics
and
pointing out whom those are is very scriptural and not childish name
calling
as "Bible Bob" false accuses.]
December 26, 2007
"Carl McCaskey's recent behavior is not too different from that of my dogs
who when they kill a rate [sic] or opposum [sic] or other animal bring it
to my back ****ch." [Hmmm.so far "Bible Bob" has compared me to Nazis,
KKK'ers
and now dogs. God doesn't like "Bible Bob"'s insults.]
"Of late Carl has been quoting from Proverbs 6. Maybe that is where he
got
the idea that he should commit the abomination of sowing discord."
[Another
false accusation by "Bible Bob" and a misrepresentation of scriptures. The
abomination to which "Bible Bob" refers is sowing discord AMONG BRETHREN.
Atheists, agnostics, cultists, nonChristians and heretics {like "Bible
Bob"
Sowle} are not Christian brethren. Rather they are people we should share
the gospel with in hopes they may accept Jesus Christ as their Lord and
Savior but if they still reject, then we leave them to their consequences
of
their choices and leave it in God's hands.]
"Apparently Carl thinks of himself as some great Jewish Prophet of God. So
great that he extended his ministry from Jews to Gentiles. It may be that
the [sic] got tired of his sillines [sic] and chased him away." [This one
would be funny if it were coming from ignorance, but this is a blatant and
intentional misrepresentation from "Bible Bob." I've not thought of myself
as "some great Jewish Prophet of God." I am merely one of God's children.
Furthermore, no one chased me anywhere. "Bible Bob" shows serious
desperation here.]
"A workman of the word of God is required to rightly divide the word of
truth which is the sword of the spirit; the only offensive weapon God has
given his children to use." [However "Bible Bob" wrongly divides the word
of
truth and instead espouses ungodly, unbiblical, heretical teachings.]
"Carl makes it all too apparent that what he does he does for his own
glory." [Just another libelous comment from "Bible Bob" Sowle in his
ungodly attempts to smear. God abhors a lying tongue so rather than face
up
to the scripture I have quoted, "Bible Bob" falsely claims the scripture
cited from Proverbs & Psalms are only for the children of Israel. Well,
God
abhors lies from anyone, especially those, like "Bible Bob" Sowle,
claiming
to be Christian. As do***ented by this text file as well as Usenet, "Bible
Bob" has a lying tongue which he uses on a daily basis.]
"He [Carl] strives to appear to be a Christian big shot." [This one is
quite
laughable. I never attempted to be a big shot in any sense of the word. I
do
the best job I can at work because that's what God wants of His children.
I
share the Biblical sermons, lessons and articles because God told us in
His
Holy Scriptures to spread the Gospel and in my small way, I am doing just
that. So in short, "Bible Bob" personally and unbiblically condemns me for
trying to follow God's instructions.]
"And maybe Carl and I are both tricked by our adversary from time to time
into presenting ourselves as big shots when indeed we are both just little
shots in the same one body of Christ." [Nope.according to scripture,
heretics like "Bible Bob" are not part of the body of Christ. This is yet
another example of "Bible Bob"'s wicked attempts at deception and
misrepresentation.]
"Since I warned Carl earlier this week about using the word of God
deceitfully; he is without excuse. He has deliberately used the word of
God
deceitfully against "sheblew". In other words Carl sinned against
"sheblew"
and sinned against God by using the word of God dishonestly without
mercy."
[However, I haven't used the Word of God deceitfully as "Bible Bob"
falsely
claims. I actually show what God specifically says about those who claim
there is no God from directly from scripture. I have only shown what God
said in regards to the scripture from Psalms that identifies those who
claim
there is no God as fools. That is God's own description. I have rightly
divided it and cited it correctly. A warning from heretics like "Bible
Bob"
Sowle are to be ignored according to God. And since I have rightly divided
scripture in regards to Psalms, I have not sinned against God nor
"SheBlew."
I have shown "SheBlew" and reminded Usenet what God calls those who claim
there is no God.]
"He [Carl] is pretending to be what he [Carl] is not. He [Carl] attempted
to
overcome evil with evil rather than evil with good; a mistake we all make
from time to time." [Actually, citing scripture is not trying to overcome
evil with evil. Is "Bible Bob" now, subconsciously showing his true colors
implying that the Holy Scriptures are evil? I don't think he does so
intentionally, but one could sure reach such a conclusion from his false
accusation here. However, regardless of that possibility, "Bible Bob" once
again accuses falsely. Typical for the heretic.]
"So, Carl, do you repent of your wrong behavior; or, not? The word of God
judges your behavior as wrong." [Actually only "Bible Bob" has
unbiblically
and ungodly judged my citing scripture in response to trollish behavior as
wrong. According to scripture, citing scripture in response to trolling
and
attacks is proper.]
"Please don't try to respond with the sin rationalization technique of Dr
so
and so does it or so and so does it so I can do it." [Boy, when "Bible
Bob"
fabricates things, he doesn't do it in a small way, does he? I have never
tried justifying bad behavior with bad behavior nor responded with any
"sin
rationalization technique" as "Bible Bob" calls it. Just "Bible Bob"
committing more intentional misrepresentation in his smear campaign. When
has a lying tongue like "Bible Bob" Sowle's ever been endorsed by God as
proper behavior? Answer: Never. This shows once again the bad fruit coming
from the bad tree known as "Bible Bob" Sowle. No Christian should trust
anything "Bible Bob" Sowles says as long as he continues his wicked ways.]
December 25, 2007
"Carl on the other hand pretends to be a disciple of the Lord Jersus [sic]
Christ and it is he that (1) manifests a proud look - the look of one who
makes unrighteous judgments against another and by continuing to post
material that he knows contains false information." [Here we see "Bible
Bob"
once again attempting to smear me but failing miserably. But his deceitful
ways are well do***ented. The sermons, lessons and articles I have posted
contain Biblically sound information that "Bible Bob" objects to because
much of it completely refutes his heresies. So "Bible Bob" lashes out at
those Christians, myself included, who have refuted his lies and heresies.
It's interesting and highly ironic that "Bible Bob" is clearly guilty of
what he false accuses me of. He claims I manifest a "proud look" but it is
"Bible Bob" who has exhibited a 'I am much smarter than everyone' else
attitude {ex.-In more than one post "Bible Bob" claims superior Biblical
knowledge than others who actually know more than "Bible Bob" does. A
quote
from "Bible Bob": :You would be better off reading and following my
teachings than the teachings of the sects because mine are more accurate."
However as it has been shown time and time again, "Bible Bob"'s teachings
are less accurate and in fact mostly false and heretical.}. Also "Bible
Bob"'s
abusive nature and libelous posts also show a very arrogant nature. "Bible
Bob" also falsely accuses me of making "unrighteous judgments against
another" which is a very thing of which "Bible Bob" is truly guilty. He's
made countless unrighteous judgments against others, many of which are
do***ented in this text file.]
"His [Carl's] priode [sic] prevents him from repenting." [Notice how
accurately "Bible Bob" actually describes himself in many of his
unrighteous
and false accusations against others.]
"(2) It is Carl who manifestrs [sic] the lying tongue by making false
representations against the children of God." [Again, "Bible Bob" attempts
to smear by making another false representation himself.]
"(3) his heart deviseth wicked imaginations in that he calculates that
anyone that does not believe what he demands is bound for a firey [sic]
hell" [Again "Bible Bob" makes an intentional false claim against me. But
that is typical for an proven unrepentant heretic like "Bible Bob" Sowle.]
"(4) his feet which should be clothed with the preparation of the gospel
of
peace are swift at running to mischief as evidenced by his posts
containing
false doctrines and hate speech against the children of God and (5) he
[sic]
is a false witness that speaketh lies against his brethren." [More libel
from "Bible Bob" Sowle. My posts contain no false doctrines and no hate
speech while "Bible Bob"'s clearly do and are do***ented in this text file
as well as via Usenet Google searches. As to "running to mischief"-a
ridiculous and false claim coming from someone who is waist-deep in
mischief
as "Bible Bob" is.]
"So that is five out of six of the things that the Lord hates that Carl
does
and based on his reputation it would not take a stretch of the imagination
for Carl to be lked [sic] to believe and behave like a member of the Ku
Klux
Klan or the Nazi's - even to shed innocent blood." [Actually, I have not
done any of the things "Bible Bob" claims but in fact, all of which "Bible
Bob" falsely accuses me has been perpetrated numerous times by "Bible Bob"
himself. Furthermore, this is not the first time "Bible Bob" has called me
a
Nazi but now he's added the Klan to the list and ratcheted it up quite a
bit
by implying I am capable and willing to shed innocent blood. I am not, but
that doesn't stop "Bible Bob" Sowle from engaging in ad homin, non
sequitur
and libel.]
"The seventh which is the one that is an abomination to the Lord is sowing
discord among brethren. That is what Carl does by posting articles that
contain false doctrines which promote discord. It is Carl who promotes
that
a person must beleive [sic] in the Trinity to be saved and that if a
person
does not believe in the Trinity; that person will burn in hell." [Again,
"Bible Bob" falsely accuses. The sermons, lessons and articles I have
posted
are all from Christians and all Biblically-sound. No false doctrines
(unlike
"Bible Bob"'s proven and do***ented heresies) and no promotion of discord
among Christians (unlike "Bible Bob"'s posts and teachings). I am no
brethren to heretics and this is what God demands of we Christians - we
are
to have nothing to do with unrepentant heretics who have been duly warned
but remain unrepentant. And since "Bible Bob" Sowle willfully remains the
unrepentant heretic, no Christian should have anything to do with him
{Titus
3:9-11}. Finally, "Bible Bob" has picked up on a long-standing lie started
by a radical, abusive and deceptive Usenet troller using the nickname
"roque" when he claims I stated such concerning the Trinity, a Biblically
based doctrine. Neither of them can produce any post where I said such but
that hasn't stopped either deceiver ("Bible Bob" and "roque") from
continuing to accuse falsely. As it is stated in Psalms, God abhors a
lying
tongue and bother "Bible Bob" and "rogue" are habitual liars.]
"There is a path we are to walk as followers of the Lord Jesus Christ and
that is behind the Lord Jesus Christ. Carl replaced the Lord Jesus Christ
with men gods that he owes allegiance to." [There is indeed a path we
Christians are to walk as followers of Jesus Christ, but "Bible Bob"
abandoned that path at some point and his lies, false teachings, heresies
and evil deeds give clearcut evidence of the wickedness that is within his
heart. This is one reason among many why I encourage my Christian brethren
to keep "Bible Bob" in their prayers. I will also continue to pray for him
in hopes that he will finally awaken and repent of his evil ways and
accept
the Holy Spirit into his heart. Furthermore, "Bible Bob" once again (it's
quote predictable actually) falsely accuses me of wor****pping "men gods"
over Jesus Christ. I wor****p no "men gods." I do wor****p Jesus Christ who
is
my Lord and Savior and God manifest in flesh. My allegiance is to God and
God alone. No matter how long and how loudly "Bible Bob" Sowle repeats his
lie, it will not change the fact that I am indeed Christian who wor****ps
only the one true God.]
"Carl despises the riches of God's goodness and forbearing and
longsuffering." [Absolutely false. God abhors "Bible Bob"'s lying tongue.]
"Jerry asked Carl to prove from the Scriptures that one must beleive in
the
Trinity to be saved. Carl cannot do so because there is no Scripture that
demands belief in the doctrine of the trinity." [Once again, "Bible Bob"
has
parroted the lie "rogue" started. Also, I do not accept challenges from
those God calls "fools" which are only meant to lure me into vain and
meaningless arguments of which God told we Christians to avoid. So both
"rogue" and "Bible Bob" Sowle are demanding that I go against God's clear
instruction and willfully sin against Him. Again this shows evil intent on
"Bible Bob"'s part by trying to tempt me into willfully sinning against
God.]
"There is nothing wrong with making righteous judgments. We are told to
judge by God. You cannot judge fruit without making righteous judgments.
You cannot judge a person to be a false teacher or false preacher without
making righteous judgments. You should have noticed by now that when I
speak against the "behavior" of Carl, I use the word of God as a standard
against which to measure his behavior. Carl uses his own arrogance and
pride to judge others unrighteously [sic]. I have asked Carl to imitate
[sic] God; to use the goodness of God to lead men to repentance." [God
gives
clear instruction on how we are to discern between good and evil from men.
For example, Jesus taught the following in Matthew 7:15-20:
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but
inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize
them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise
every good tree bears good fruit , but a bad tree bears bad fruit . A good
tree cannot bear bad fruit , and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit . Every
tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
So what is the fruit from "Bible Bob" Sowle? Lies, libel, smear, vitriol,
hatred, arrogance, pride, deception, abuse, and many other unGodly things.
In short, "Bible Bob" produces mostly bad fruit. And what happens to trees
that produce bad fruit? According to Jesus Christ, trees that produce bad
fruit are cut down and thrown into the fire. This is not me making this
righteous judgment, but God. I, as a strong believer in God's Word,
concur.
By "Bible Bob"'s bad fruit we therefore have to conclude he is a bad tree
as
described by Jesus Christ. And if he continues to produce bad fruit,
"Bible
Bob" seals his own fate. That is not unrighteous judgment on my part but
solid and absolute Biblical truth.]
"We will not agree on the doctrine of the trinity. It was instituted to
cause division in the one body. Those who claim theu [sic] believe in it
think themselves superior to other believers who do not. It's been that
way
since the doctrine was invented in the fourth century. It is a doctrine
that breeds hatred among brethren and is not of God." [As has been shown
via
sola scriptura and in totality, the Trinity is indeed a Biblical doctrine.
It has never been "instituted" since it's always been in God's Holy
Scriptures. Furthermore, as has been shown by historical do***ents, it was
not invented in the 4th century {a longstanding lie that has been
throroughly refuted time and time again} but has been taught and believed
by
early church fathers as shown by historical do***ents dating back as far
as
the 1st century. So once again "Bible Bob" shows his dishonest and
heretical
nature in one paragraph. My Christian brethren, I urge you to follow clear
scriptural instruction and have nothing to do with "Bible Bob" Sowle for
he
has been duly warned of his heresies by numerous Christians over the
years,
has been shown his errors in Christian love and patience by numerous
Christians over the years, yet "Bible Bob" Sowle continues to willfully
espouse the same heresies that have long been refuted and he also
continues
to engage in behavior that God abhors.]
"Carl, like many fundamentalists (Weatherly is a good example) wor****p the
words of men rather than do the word of God." [Predictably, "Bible Bob"
once
again falsely accuses me of wor****pping something or someone other than
God.
Absurd, yet "Bible Bob" still drags out that dead horse and continues to
beat on it.]
December 22, 2007
"You are an embarrassment to us "real" Christians; quoting Scriptures out
of
context." [Here "Bible Bob" claims (falsely) to be a "real" Christian.
Well
"real" Christians don't preach falsely as "Bible Bob" Sowle does. "Real"
Christians don't continually lie about others even though their lies have
been exposed as such by actual Christians. "Bible Bob"'s unrepentant
behavior is not one of a real Christian but someone who has abandoned
Christianity for the doctrines of men (in this case the personal heresies
and false teachings of "Bible Bob" Sowle. Secondly, the scripture I have
cited has been accurately and properly applied.]
December 21, 2007
"Carl doesn't even know what a man of God is." [Yet another "'Bible Bob'
smear" {tm} that shows that the Sowle war machine {powered by a 2-stroke
Briggs & Stratton engine-hence its weak power} is operating still with the
operator {"Bible Bob" Sowle} in desperation mode. The men of God of whom I
refer are indeed Godly men who rightly divide the Word of God. I do know
one
who is NOT a man of God: "Bible Bob."]
"To date, Carl has not backed down from his assertions that he has God
given
power to determine who is and is not saved, who is and who is not a
heretic,
who is and who is not an apostate, etc." [First off, I never asserted,
implied, etc. that I have the "God given point to determine who is and is
not saved." That is a blatant lie by "Bible Bob" which he is trying to use
to besmirch me. Notice he offers no evidence that I ever made such a claim
{whereas I have provided conclusive evidence of "'Bible Bob' lies" {tm}
via
his own words-many more can be seen via a simple Usenet Google search}.
Secondly, it is the Word of God that exposes "Bible Bob" as a heretic and
a
apostate for he continues to willfully espoused unbiblical teachings
{especially essential doctrines} although many Christians have warned him
and shown him his errors. What God has given me as well as every Christian
to determine if someone is wrongly dividing the Word of God as "Bible Bob"
does is the Bible. One only has to take a Bereanic approach {Acts 17:11}
in
studying the Bible in order to clearly and easily recognize "Bible Bob"'s
heresies and apostate behavior.
"Many of Carl's men gods are such men. Men like Wesley who promoted
division in the one body of Christ also did good works. Men like Luther
who
helped to blend paganism into Christianity; as in introducing candles on
Christmas trees, etc." [There "Bible Bob" goes again-once again falsely
accusing me of wor****pping men. This is a desperation tactic of "Bible
Bob."
It's absolutely not true but "Bible Bob" uses it in his Satanic arsenal of
deception. Remember God hates a lying tongue {Prov. 6:17} and "Bible Bob"
definitely exhibits a lying tongue as this text file well do***ents.
Furthermore, "Bible Bob" intentionally lies about John Wesley and Martin
Luther as well. It would seem that the only man of God alive today, at
least
as evidenced by "Bible Bob"'s writings, is "Bible Bob" himself however
since
"Bible Bob" has long abandoned scriptural orthodoxy for unbiblical
teachings
it's obvious that he is no man of God but an ungodly, unrepentant heretic
who lacks the Holy Spirit in his heart.]
December 20, 2007
"You [Carl] are the spiritual terrorist that people need to be aware of."
[Once again, "Bible Bob" engages in libelous posts in his weak attempts to
smear.]
"And you [Carl] - as your mentors, John Wolf and John MacArthur would say
are a "spiritual terrorist" who does not use the sword of the spirit as an
offensive weapon as God demands in the passages you [Carl] are speaking
of."
[First off, I have no clue as to whom "John Wolf" is. I've never met him
nor
know of him. Secondly, John MacArthur is a Godly pastor who obviously
knows
more of the Bible and what it teaches than the heretic "Bible Bob" Sowle.
I
have never claimed either individual as a "mentor" but have presented
Biblically-sound lessons from John MacArthur on occasion. Since "Bible
Bob"
can't handle the truth from the Bible that clearly exposes his heresies,
he
ends up attempting to smear and posting libelous and deceptive materials
as
has been thoroughly do***ented in this file. If anyone most closely
resembles a "spiritual terrorist" it is "Bible Bob" Sowle who posts heresy
after heresy, lie after lie, libel after libel-all against God's
teachings.]
"You [Carl] would put people out of the church for not believing what you
[Carl] demand they believe. That makes you [Carl] the evil one. It is
you
[Carl] that adds to the requirements for salvation and it is you [Carl]
that
demands death for those who do not believe the non-scriptural doctrine of
the Trinity that you [Carl] wor****p in lieu of God." [Boy, this series of
sentences is so full of "Bible Bob lies" {TM} that it's difficult to
determine where to start pointing them out. Let's start at the beginning.
I
have never said nor implied that I would nor would want to "put people
out
of the church" for not believing what I believe. I have never said nor
implied that. "Bible Bob" fabricated this in his typical smear campaign.
Next, since I never have done so I'm obviously not "the evil
one"-hmmm...is
he calling me...SATAN?!? {Sorry, a little SNL "Church Lady" reference}
Next,
I have never added any requirements to what the Bible teaches about
salvation. Again "Bible Bob" presents libel once again. Next, I have never
demanded death for anyone. Next, the doctrine of the Trinity is indeed
Biblical and I have shown it to be via the Holy Scriptures (sola
scriptura)
and have further shown that the church fathers taught it from the
scriptures
as well as every orthodox Christian minister to the present day. I've also
presented Biblically solid sermons, lessons and detailed articles also
proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the Trinity is indeed scriptural.
However "Bible Bob", unable to refute the truth (he tries but each time he
has to resort to deceptive practices, very poor exegesis and erroneous
Greek
interpretations - all of which have been exposes as such and well
do***ented), resorts to his typical tact of libel, smear, obsfuscation,
misdirection and other methods of deception. God abhors "Bible Bob"
Sowle's
lies and deceptive practices. Finally, I wor****p God and God alone. Just
because "Bible Bob" false accuses otherwise does not make it so.]
"The word of God does not say that Jesus Christ is God manifest in the
flesh. You are lieing and deceiving (as usual) knowing full well that the
word "God" in the following verse is from the Greek pronoun "hos" (which);
not the noun "theos". It was the mystery of godliness "which" was
manifest
in the flesh; not God." [As has been do***ented by several koine Greek
experts such as Dr. Earl Kellett and Dr. William F. Warren, "Bible Bob"'s
understanding of koine Greek grammar isn't even up to par for first-year
Greek students. One described "Bible Bob"'s attempt at interpretation of
koine Greek as a "blatant disregard for the proper use and significance of
Hebrew or Greek grammar." In short, whenever "Bible Bob" presents his
personal one-man interpretation of koine Greek, keep in mind that he has
admitted to be self-taught (and then later on admitted to have received
training but refuses to name where he received such training which
strongly
indicates that he lied about that as well) and experts who have read
"Bible
Bob" Sowle's essays and posts where he relies on his personal
interpretation
of koine Greek have unanimously concluded that "Bible Bob" is unable or
unwilling to properly utilize existing grammatical rules of koine Greek.
In
short, "Bible Bob" is a rank amateur at Biblical languages and a very poor
one at that.]
"The greater fool is he who pretends to represent God while wor****pping
man
gods. Fools (wicked men) also misrepresent what the scriptures say and
use
them deceitfully. Carl used a kiddie Bible (the NIV) to misrepresent what
the word of God says. Of course Carl is an unskilled babe able only to
digest milk; not meat; so not much better can be expected from him." [Even
more blatant prevarications and disingenuousness from "Bible Bob" Sowle.
An
interesting thing is that when "Bible Bob" wrote "Fools (wicked men) also
misrepresent what the scriptures say and use them deceitfully" he is
actually accurately describing himself as one who misrepresents what the
Scriptures say and "Bible Bob" has been using them deceitfully. However he
has been exposed as a deceiver and as such an agent of Satan (whether
willingly or unwillingly is up for conjecture) by numerous Christians over
the years {Google Usenet searches show this to be true}. Also it's funny
that "Bible Bob" calls the NIV a "kiddie Bible" although it has been shown
conclusively to be a reliable and valid translation. Of course, "Bible
Bob"
implies that it is the only translation I use which is patently false. I
own
and use several reliable and valid translations including, but not limited
to, the NIV, the KJV, the NKJV, the NASB (also known as NASV), But this
intentional misrepresentation of not only myself but the NIV is typical of
the "'Bible Bob' lie" {tm} and the "'Bible Bob' smear" {tm}. Furthermore,
if
I am such an "unskilled babe" as "Bible Bob" accuses, it makes it even
more
interesting that I've exposed and proven "Bible Bob"s vast heresies and
deceptions via sola scriptura and also via sup****ting scholarly and
Biblically solid evidence. In response, "Bible Bob" Sowle can only deny,
deny, deny & attack, attack, attack.]
September 23, 2007
"Finally, a PUBLIC ADMISSION that you [Carl] have not read the Bible and
that all your talk about prayer for people and your "May God Bless"
closing
is a PUBLIC DEMONSTRATION of your pretending to be a Christian." [I made
no
such admission and my prayers for "Bible Bob" and others remain sincere.
It
matters not whether "Bible Bob" believes it or not since he nor anyone
else
can interfere with my personal relation****p with God. Jesus Christ has
always been and will always be my Lord and Savior. "Bible Bob" can lie and
slander all he wishes to, but his lies and slander can't take away my
salvation from God nor can "Bible Bob" change it.]
September 22, 2007
"Just because you are a sinner does not mean everybody else is." [Is
"Bible
Bob" implying that he is not a sinner? Is "Bible Bob" implying that there
are others who live a sinless and perfect life other than Jesus Christ?
"If
we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has
no place in our lives." (1 John 1:10, NIV) "Bible Bob" committed a logical
fallacy called a "non sequitur." The reason everyone is a sinner is not
because I am one, but because we are human and as such are fallible and
have
a sinful nature. God makes it clear that not one of us is perfect and as
such are unable to earn salvation. However it is by God's Grace that we
Christians are saved because we have faith in Jesus Christ, our Lord and
Savior.]
"You [Carl] detest God and wor****p men and pretend to be a Christian. If
you
loved God, you would obey His commandments." [Again "Bible Bob" attempts
to
smear, besmirch and deceive. Furthermore, he shows his hypocrisy since he
refuses to follow his own advice. Would someone who truly loved God engage
in such wicked smear campaigns as "Bible Bob" Sowle? Would someone who
truly
loved God continually post lies and deception as "Bible Bob" Sowle? Would
someone who truly loved God regularly engage in ad hominem as "Bible Bob"
Sowle? The facts expose "Bible Bob" Sowle as a wicked heretic who rejects
essential Christian doctrine and attempts to camouflage his heresies with
self-taught, woefully flawed Koine Greek gammar lessons which only go to
confuse. He knows he is being deceitful and his words and deeds show
clearly
that his heart is wicked and devoid of the Holy Spirit. It is not
incorrect
to declare that "Bible Bob" Sowle is an evil individual being used by
Satan
to deceive and try to lead people AWAY from Jesus Christ.]
"You do not know the word of God Carl which is why you never right [sic]
anything about it." [A simple Google search shows that I have written
plenty
backed up with proper exegesis and rightly dividing the Word of God. But
"Bible Bob" knowingly lies to try to slander.]
"If you were a Christian your disciple****p would be apparent." [Now "Bible
Bob" is claiming I am not Christian although he has absolutely no evidence
to sup****t his false claim. Furthermore, to know conclusively if someone
is
saved one must have divine knowledge which "Bible Bob" obviously lacks.
Therefore "Bible Bob" is simply speaking from ignorance and hatred which
is
more evidence of "Bible Bob"'s wicked heart. 2 Peter 2:18 contains a
description of deceivers' actions that describe "Bible Bob" accurately
because he mouths empty, boastful words and appeals to the lustful desires
of sinful human nature.]
"You are not a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ because your gods are
then
men and doctrines of men and devils you wor****p." [Again "Bible Bob"
clings
to his false accusation that I wor****p men over Jesus Christ which has
never
been true but apparently "Bible Bob" must believe that if he says it long
enough it might become true. However his lie will always remain a lie
because I accepted Jesus Christ as my only Lord and Savior many years ago
and still hold to that truth. Heretics like "Bible Bob" try to slander
against Christians but to no avail.]
"With regard to your so called scholars; from what you say they attack my
character but have offered no proof or even any comments that my actual
workman****p is questionable. None of them have charged me with wrongly
dividing the word of truth." [Actually they ALL have stated quite clearly
that "Bible Bob" wrongly divides the Word of God. "Bible Bob" is in denial
here and is now desperately trying to alter reality.]
September 20, 2007
"You being a devout antichrist and antichrist person have the honor of my
friendly critiques whether you like them or not." [Please note "Bible Bob"
false accusing me of being antichrist when it is "Bible Bob" who denies
the
deity of Jesus Christ. Typical for such a heretic.]
August 31, 2007
I finally received permission to publicly use the identity of two of the
scholars who reviewed "Bible Bob"'s articles I submitted. They are Dr.
Earl
Kellett (B.A., M.Div., Th.M.) (email: earlkellett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
) and Dr.
William
F. Warren (Th.D.) (email: wfwarren@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
). And as expected, "Bible Bob"
is
too cowardly to communicate with either.
August 31, 2007
"Those who wrongly divide his word are judged wrong." ["Bible Bob" has
been
proven time and time again to wrongly divide God's Word.]
"Needless to say the editors of the King James Version falsified the text
and editors from later versions joined the conspiracy; but the truth is
still available." ["Bible Bob" continues to make this baseless accusation
which is patently untrue.]
[The quotes above came directly from "Bible Bob" yet in a very feeble
attempt to try deceive people into thinking Dr. Kellett was in agreement
with "Bible Bob" blatant deception was used by "Bible Bob" to dishonestly
try to claim the quotes came from Dr. Kellett (which they were not). The
following do***ents "Bible Bob"'s dishonest attempt.]
"Carl posted this today in one of his hate posts.
Begin quote:
Do***ented lies and heresies from "Bible Bob" Sowle
[Updated: August 31, 2007 - 11:43am EDT]
August 31, 2007
I finally received permission to publicly use the identity of one of
the scholars who reviewed "Bible Bob"'s articles I submitted. He is
Dr. Earl Kellett. B.A., M.Div., Th.M. (email: earlkellett@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
).
"Those who wrongly divide his word are judged wrong." ["Bible Bob" has
been proven time and time again to wrongly divide God's Word.]
"Needless to say the editors of the King James Version falsified the
text and editors from later versions joined the conspiracy; but the
truth is still available." ["Bible Bob" continues to make this
baseless accusation which is patently untrue.]
End quote:
Before you accuse Mr. Kellett of being stark raving mad please notice
that all Mr Kellett said was "Those that wrongly divide his word are
judged wrong."
That's all the man said. The man did not say that I did that. He was
probably
talking about Carl's behavior.:)
The words following what Mr Kellett said are Carl's words and everyone
knows that what Carl says about me are lies. So, Carl took what is
true from Mr Kellett and appended his lie to Mr Kellett's truth to
sucker people into thinking that what Carl said is true. Notice the
trickery that Carl is trying to use to deceive you. First, he types
what Mr Kellett says followed by what he said followed by what I said
followed by what he said so that we see this pattern."
[Please note the ****tion of "Bible Bob"'s post in which he falsely
attributed his own words for Dr. Kellett's. Not only is "Bible Bob" a
dishonest, evil heretic but he's getting more brazen with his deceptions.
"Let me explain the difference between be [sic] and scholars that work for
the system. They and I received training. I continued to use my training
on a daily basis and am not diverted from searching for truth by religious
dogma, reading periodicals, and all of the miriad of other duties that a
scholar at an institution gets boggled down with. I probably spend five or
ten more times studying the Greek than scholars do." ["Bible Bob" has
received no training. At least no proper formal training. He has admitted
to
being self-taught and that's how all his errors manifested themselves. As
pointed out by several legitimate Biblical scholars, "Bible Bob"'s grammar
in regard to Koine Greek follows no legitimate, recognized rules or
guidelines. In fact many of "Bible Bob"'s rules of grammar had been
fabricated by "Bible Bob" to sup****t his presuppositions. "Bible Bob" has
no
training folks. At least not in Biblical languages, hermeneutics,
eschatology, nor any other Biblically-related field. "Bible Bob" is a
charlatan of the worst kind and by God's standards, a wicked heretic.
"Bible
Bob" lies so much that only the truly naïve or equally as deceived believe
him.]
"I am a workman of the word of God who strives to rightly diviide [sic]
the
word of truth so that I can be a workman that needeth nbot [sic] to be
ashamed." ["Bible Bob" is too arrogant {another sign of an unclean heart}
to
strive to rightly divide the Word of Truth although he proudly proclaims
it
any chance he gets. His arrogance is so consuming that he cannot be
ashamed
of his false teachings, his shoddy translations, his blatant lies. Satan
has
"Bible Bob" firmly in his evil grasp and we Christians need to pray for
"Bible Bob" so that he will be rescued before it is too late.]
"Believe it or not lexicons and concordance written by Trinitarians are
just
a wee bit slanted towards the Trinitarian point of view. Since all
lexicons
and concordance are written by Trinitarians all lexicons and concordances
are slanted their way. Then, so are the interlinears and every other
Bible
study aid produced by men. That's why you have to use the Greek; no
translation can be trusted because all translations of all kinds are
products of men." [More "Bible Bob" dishonesty. Furthermore, "Bible Bob"'s
knowledge of Greek and Hebrew is next to nonexistent as evidence by his
numerous errors. Dr. Warren and Dr. Kellett have both pointed out that
"Bible Bob"'s grammar, translations and definitions in regards to Biblical
Greek are severely slanted in an attempt to sup****t "Bible Bob"'s
presuppositions and in most cases standard rules of Greek grammar are
routinely ignored and broken by "Bible Bob." This is yet another example
of
why "Bible Bob" is an untrustworthy source for Biblical translation. Dr.
Kellett's exact words concerning "Bible Bob"'s demonstrated ability is as
follows: 'Bible Bob's method of interpretation begins with faulty
presupposition and progresses with a biased application of a method which
results in faulty conclusions.']
August 29, 2007
"Yesterday, Carl posted some crap where he quoted some comments he
received
from someone he considers to be a scholar; though personally I think he
mad
[sic] ethe [sic] whole thing up because the guy didn't "read" like a
scholar. What scholar in his right mind would make a public comment about
something that would affect his credability [sic] as a scholar." [Actually
I
quoted two different legitimate Biblical scholars that explained quite
well
why "Bible Bob" is no Bible scholar. So all "Bible Bob" can do is deny and
pretend it never happened which is akin to hiding one's own head in the
sand
when things aren't going your way. The fact remains that both gentlemen
are
professors at a highly respected seminary and both do know of what they
speak (unlike "Bible Bob") and can back it up (also unlike "Bible Bob"). I
have kept their names out of the posts in respect for the gentlemen's
privacy but have asked them if I may reveal their identities and email
addresses in the future. As of yet I have not received any responses. If
they give me their permission, I will amend earlier materials in which I
quoted them to include their names and possibly email addresses.]
"Anyway, I dodn't [sic] have the luxury that most of the paid used car
salesmen of the denominations have. My job is to stand approved before
God
as a workman that needeth not to be ashamed of his workman****p. So I have
to play by God's rules." [More ad hominem from "Bible Bob." Typical. Also
note what he considers his "job." He didn't even quote the Bible passage
correctly. It comes from 2 Timothy 2:15 which states:
'Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be
ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.'
"Bible Bob" has been showing that he is not rightly dividing the word of
truth but instead is presenting his man-made heresies.
Furthermore, the very next verse pretty much shows how "Bible Bob" is
clearly not playing "by God's rules."
'But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more
ungodliness.' {2 Timothy 2:16}
As this text file proves absolutely and conclusively, "Bible Bob" enjoys
and
routinely engages in "profane and vain babblings" which is merely an
extension of "Bible Bob"'s ungodliness.]
"I strive for literal verbaim translation in context where the word tells
me
what the doctrine is." [It has been shown that "Bible Bob"'s translations
are erroneous and indicate an unlearned person.]
"They get to start with the doctrine and then adjust the text to say what
the doctrine says.' [Actually one of the Biblical scholars I contacted
said
that's what "Bible Bob" is doing. Here's his *****sment of the "Bible Bob"
articles:
'Judging from the titles of the series of articles the author, Bible Bob,
is
seeking to promote an ideological agenda.'
In the case of "Bible Bob" he starts off with his preconceived notions and
then tries to fabricate Greek grammar to sup****t his heresies. The problem
is, there are ample people who are very knowledgeable in Biblical Greek
that
can see right through his obfuscations. Dr. Earl Kellett describes "Bible
Bob"'s methodology thusly:
'Bible Bob's method of interpretation begins with faulty presupposition
and
progresses with a biased application of a method which results in faulty
conclusions.'
Basically this explains that "Bible Bob" is definitely not qualified nor a
trustworthy source for sound Biblical teaching.]
"The problem is that there aren't many "literalists" like myself who first
find out what the word of God literally says, and then look for the
figurative sense if it applies." [The truth is "Bible Bob" hasn't been
rightly dividing the word of truth and has been called on it numerous
times
but keeps arrogantly claiming his superior Biblical intellect (which only
exists in "Bible Bob"'s own mind).]
"Take for example the common practice of adding words into the version or
omitting words from the version when the editor feels like doing so in
order
to make a passage say what he wants it to say." [It's only a "common
practice" in "Bible Bob"'s fantasy world because as legitimate Biblical
scholars have attested, what "Bible Bob" is claiming is "common practice"
hasn't actually happened. This is what is referred to as a "straw man
argument." In other words, fabricate something that isn't there and tear
it
down to try to make it appear that your point is valid. Since the basis
for
"Bible Bob"'s point is historically invalid, his conclusion is equally
invalid.]
"I don't claim to be a scholar, just a "me" that studies (is diligent) to
show himself approved unto God (not man) as a workman by rightly dividing
the word of truth." [Funny that "Bible Bob" says that he doesn't claim to
be
a scholar yet he claims that his teachings are superior to legitimate
scholars. So therefore he actually, ipso facto, IS claiming to be a
scholar.]
August 29, 2007
The following excerpts don't contain "Bible Bob" lies or heresies but do
illustrate how out of touch "Bible Bob" is with reality:
"Today, on the way home from work I stopped at a store and bought a bottle
of Gator Aide and headed home; but it was hot and traffic was heavy and I
wanted to relax and drink my Gator Aide so I pulled off the road. I
pulled
off the road in front of a cemetery; not to find an honest lawyer, but
because I saw a nice shade tree I could sit under and drink my Gator
Aide."
"Sitting beneath the tree drinking my Gator Aide, I began to wax
philosophically."
You may be asking yourself, "So what?" Well when "Bible Bob" refers to the
non-carbonated s****ts drink marketed by the Quaker Oats Company, a
division
of PepsiCo, which was created by Dr. Robert Cade at the University of
Florida in 1965 for the school's football team and named after the
university's mascot, you'd figure he would be referring to Gatorade.
However
"Bible Bob" refers to some knock-off drink called "Gator Aide" not once
but
four times in rapid succession.
Again, you're asking, "So what?"
My point is, "Bible Bob" demands other people get even the most minute
points absolutely correct yet routinely "Bible Bob" gets many points so
fouled up and wrong as to become completely and hopelessly hypocritical in
the process. Granted, both you and I know he was referring to Gatorade not
"Gator Aide" and any other reasonable person would rightly reach the same
conclusion yet if the tables were turned and someone else were writing the
missive in which this innocent error occurred, "Bible Bob" would harp on
it
endlessly holding it up as his pet example of how intellectually lacking
the
person was. He's done it before and he'll do it again, but he's just as
guilty as those whom he accuses.
August 28, 2007
"The third person of the trinity does not exist. It is a fairy tale, a
myth, a lie. There is no "He" Holy Spirit because the word pneuma from
which spirit is translated is always neuter. I just wrote the following
to
Liam Too; go and and ask your scholar buddies if it is right" [I received
a
review of "Bible Bob"'s articles I sent to some true scholars in Biblical
Greek language and here below are a few excerpts concerning "Bible Bob"'s
demonstrated understanding (or rather LACK OF understanding of Koine
Greek)]
The blatant disregard for the proper use and significance of Hebrew or
Greek
grammar in the interpretive process is the defining characteristic of each
of the essays.
In "How Trinitarians Deceive with the Bible - Baptism" Bible Bob examined
the use of the prepositional en pneumati agiw kai puri (en with the dative
case) in Matt 3:11. The key to properly translating prepositional phrases
is
to rely upon context as a means of expressing the meaning. Bible Bob
preferred a translation with the preposition indicating the place or
sphere
in which something happens (in the Holy Spirit and fire). His translation
of
the preposition is based on an unwarranted restriction of the meaning of
the
preposition, which results in an unlikely conclusion. When considered in
context, the prepositional phrase is best translated as indicating the
instrument or means by which something is accomplished, hence, the
grammatically and contextually correct translation "with the Holy Spirit
and
fire."
Bible Bob drew conclusions about the use of the article in adjectival
phrases without paying adequate attention to the relation****ps between the
article, the adjective, and the noun modified. The following patterns are
noted in Greek grammar
noun-adjective
article-adjective-noun
article-noun-article-adjective
adjective-article-noun
the adjective is a predicate adjective
article-noun-adjective
The presence or absence of the definite article is the key to determining
the relation****p of the adjective to the noun. Whether or not a definite
article is supplied in translation is dependent upon the rules of English
grammar. Therefore, in some cases an article will be supplied in
translation
where none appeared in Greek and in other instances, the article remained
untranslated. Efforts to conform English to the rules of Greek grammar are
indicative of a lack of an understanding of the dynamics of both
languages.
Overall, Bible Bob's use of biblical languages and explanation of the
text(s) misses the mark. Conclusions drawn from the author's use of
biblical
languages reflects a bias toward a particular theological stance that
leaves
the reader with a sense of frustration at the way he handled the text.
Bible
Bob's cavalier handing of the text stands in sharp contrast to the vast
majority of scholars, pastors, and teachers who use of the biblical
languages in the hermeneutical process in such a manner that shows
evidence
of an understanding of the languages and sound exegetical principles.
[So in short, when it comes to the Koine Greek in the Bible, "Bible Bob"
doesn't know what he's talking about and any teachings he provides
concerning Biblical language should best be disregarded as coming from
someone uneducated, unqualified, and unreliable.]
"All scholars know the lies and tricks used in the versions. They just
don't
tell anybody for the sake of filthy lucre. Face the fact all version
editors are Trinitarian with an agenda and so they doctored the English
versions." [This is a "Bible Bob" lie that has been refuted quite often,
yet
he continues to spew it forth whenever he has no material left to defend
himself. A professor of Greek and the Bible at one seminary said this
about
"Bible Bob"'s lie:
Each of the essays addressed a particular aspect of Bible Bob's perception
that Trinitarians have corrupted the Bible. As the reader attempts to
piece
together the use of biblical languages in Bible Bob's interpretive
process,
he or she is confronted with the lack of understanding of biblical
languages
and sound hermeneutical principles in his essays. The blatant disregard
for
the proper use and significance of Hebrew or Greek grammar in the
interpretive process is the defining characteristic of each of the essays.
So in essence "Bible Bob" is presenting a blatant lie when he claims
English
translations of the Bible have been "doctored." Again, "Bible Bob" shows
his
own ignorance.]
"The Trinity is a doctrine of intellectual pin heads and is used as a
weapon
against others by fundamentalist extremists." ["Bible Bob" once again
engaging in ad hominem as well as intellectual dishonesty.]
"I am not a man of God or a prophet or anything other than a "me" who
tries
to learn the word of God and share it with others." ["Bible Bob"
inadvertently admits he is "not a man of God." I don't think he meant it
as
it was worded but it is indeed apt coming from a heretic like "Bible Bob."
He's claimed to be a teacher before and then turned around and denied it
so
it would not be surprising if he denied this somewhere down the road.]
"When I look at the people that attack me and see their fruit and see what
they are trying to prevent me from doing; then it is apparent to me who
they
are working for." [Now THIS quote is interesting. "Bible Bob" wants others
to see the fruits of those he believes are attacking him but ignores his
own
fruit. "You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then
you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
{Matthew
7:5} This text file do***ents the numerous examples of the bad fruit put
forth by "Bible Bob" through his own words and acts. So by "Bible Bob"'s
standard as stated here, the fruit "Bible Bob" puts forth which is bad
shows
who he is working for and it is definitely not God. "Bible Bob"'s words of
hatred, malice, slander, deceit and other wickedness are those coming from
an unclean heart.]
"Because I stand against false religion; those that practice false
religion
stand against me." [Actually "Bible Bob" has been shown to promote false
religion and has been duly warned time and time again by many Christians
over the years yet he still espouses his false teachings and as such is
merely a heretic and antichrist.]
August 25, 2007
"He [Jesus] did not earn the name Christ until he [Jesus] was
resurrected."
["earn"? Once again we see more false teachings from "Bible Bob." For
example, in Matt 16:16 Simon Peter called Jesus "the Christ" and this was
well before Jesus's resurrection. Jesus blessed Simon Peter for correctly
knowing and believing that Jesus was "the Christ." He still is. Many other
examples of this. Jesus did not "earn" the title Christ, He was always
"the
Christ." According to Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words:
christos, "anointed," translates, in the Sept., the word "Messiah," a term
applied to the priests who were anointed with the holy oil, particularly
the
high priest, e. g., Lev 4:3,5,16. The prophets are called hoi christoi
Theou, "the anointed of God," Ps 105:15. A king of Israel was described
upon
occasion as christos tou Kuriou, "the anointed of the Lord," 1 Sam
2:10,35;
2 Sam 1:14; Ps 2:2; 18:50; Hab 3:13; the term is used even of Cyrus, Isa
45:1.
The title ho Christos, "the Christ," is not used of Christ in the Sept.
version of the inspired books of the OT. In the NT the word is frequently
used with the article, of the Lord Jesus, as an appellative rather than a
title, e. g., Matt 2:4; Acts 2:31; without the article, Luke 2:11; 23:2;
John 1:41. Three times the title was expressly accepted by the Lord
Himself,
Matt 16:17; Mark 14:61-62; John 4:26.
It is added as an appellative to the proper name "Jesus," e. g., John
17:3,
the only time when the Lord so spoke of Himself; Acts 9:34; 1 Cor 3:11; 1
John 5:6. It is distinctly a proper name in many passages, whether with
the
article, e. g., Matt 1:17; 11:2; Rom 7:4; 9:5; 15:19; 1 Cor 1:6, or
without
the article, Mark 9:41; Rom 6:4; 8:9,17; 1 Cor 1:12; Gal 2:16. The single
title Christos is sometimes used without the article to signify the One
who
by His Holy Spirit and power indwells believers and molds their character
in
conformity to His likeness, Rom 8:10; Gal 2:20; 4:19; Eph 3:17. As to the
use or absence of the article, the title with the article specifies the
Lord
Jesus as "the Christ"; the title without the article stresses His
character
and His relation****p with believers. Again, speaking generally, when the
title is the subject of a sentence it has the article; when it forms part
of
the predicate the article is absent.
(from Vine's Expository Dictionary of Biblical Words)
The Biblical definition of Christ from Easton's Bible Dictionary is:
anointed, the Greek translation of the Hebrew word rendered "Messiah"
(q.v.), the official title of our Lord, occurring five hundred and
fourteen
times in the New Testament. It denotes that he was anointed or consecrated
to his great redemptive work as Prophet, Priest, and King of his people.
He
is Jesus the Christ (Acts 17:3; 18:5; Matt 22:42), the Anointed One. He is
thus spoken of by Isaiah (61:1), and by Daniel (9:24-26), who styles him
"Messiah the Prince."
Furthermore according to the McClintock and Strong Encyclopedia:
CHRIST therefore is not, strictly speaking, a proper name, but a
designation
of office. "Jesus Christ," or rather "Jesus the Christ," is a mode of
expression of the same kind as "John the Baptist," or Baptizer.
So once again "Bible Bob" is shown to be teaching falsely and instead
teaches a counterfeit Jesus.]
August 24, 2007
"Carl speaks lies, lots of lies against God's saints, and against God's
word." [More slander from "Bible Bob."]
"You [Carl] claim to be an expert at exegesis, hermeneutics, and "Koine"
Greek grammar and syntax." [I've never claimed to be an expert. Once again
"Bible Bob" intentionally misrepresents. I am knowledgeable in some of
those
areas to some degree but am willing and able to defer to experts in those
areas when needed.]
"I'll make it easy for you. Here is something from a pamphlet I am
working
on. I challenge you to prove it wrong. I challenge you to prove from the
word of God that the following words are false. If you cannot then you
will
have proved once and for all that your third person of the trinity is a
myth
and that you have been lying to everyone in the newsgroups." [Here's
another
"Bible Bob"'s challenge once again. It's a waste of time since anyone who
takes a "Bible Bob challenge" and succeeds as I and many other Christians
have done receive nothing but scorn and ridicule when "Bible Bob" denies
anyone took his challenge and succeeded. Also as I have stated, I am
obeying
the scriptures when they teach us to have nothing to do with heretics like
"Bible Bob" yet "Bible Bob", so desperate for attention, begs for me to
accept his challenge. No dice. This text file is a successful answer to
one
of his earliest challenges to me which was to do***ent "just one" of his
lies. Well, I've do***ented dozens and dozens yet "Bible Bob" denies them
all in a spirit of deception.]
"If you cannot prove that the third peson [sic] of the Trinity exists with
the Father and the Son in heaven; then you cannot prove that a person who
does not believe in the Trinity is not saved. Nor, can you prove from the
Scriptures that a non-Trinitarian will burn in hell. It is you [Carl] who
say that non-Trinitarians are not saved and that they will burn in hell."
[I've
already proven the Bible teaches the Trinity as has numerous other
Christians. "Bible Bob" once again tries to twist what the Trinity is into
something it is not in order to tear it down. This is called a "straw man
argument" and is a logical fallacy. It is also a dishonest tactic on
"Bible
Bob"'s part. Also please note that "Bible Bob" seems to think that God the
Father is limited to only being in heaven. I guess "Bible Bob" denies the
omnipresence of God as well. "Bible Bob" sure tries to limit what God can
do. I've already proven the Bible teaches the Trinity as has many other
Christians. But "Bible Bob" is in a state of denial that can only be
caused
by satanic forces. Also "Bible Bob" is dishonestly attributing something
to
me that I never, ever wrote. Please note he claims I said something {"It
is
you [Carl] who say that non-Trinitarians are not saved and that they will
burn in hell."} but provides no specific example while on the other hand I
am do***enting dozens and dozens of examples of malicious lies and
heresies
by "Bible Bob" with his own words. I do***ent the dates each were said so
anyone can verify them via Google Usenet search
(http://groups.google.com/).]
In absolute desperation, "Bible Bob" has begun a thread with the title:
"Carl McCaskey Defends and Promotes the Murder of Christians" which is
slander of the lowest and most vile order and completely shows how evil
and
wicked "Bible Bob" truly is. How anyone can defend "Bible Bob" at this
point
is truly mind-boggling.
"The doctrine of the Trinity is the product of the emperor Constantine and
men who may or may not have been disciples of Jesus Christ who submitted
themselves to an emperor clothed in gold who sat upon a gold throne." [As
I
have shown with the words of early church fathers as far back as the mid
first century {long before Constantine} the teaching of God the Father,
God
the Son and God the Holy Spirit was considered Biblical truth before
Constantine. The tired and oft-refuted myth that the concept of the
Trinity
didn't exist until the time of Constantine is been proven conclusively to
be
false. So "Bible Bob" choose to espouse a clearly debunked falsehood shows
once again the dishonest nature of "Bible Bob."]
"Does Carl not show us day after day how he wor****ps and serves men-gods
through his posts of articles by men; articles that he is not qualified to
verify as true because he lacks the skills and the maturity in Crhist
[sic]
to make righteous judgements [sic]." [First off a minor grammatical note:
there should be a question mark at the end of that sentence by "Bible
Bob."
But being that it's dishonesty from "Bible Bob" in the first place,
another
example of a slanderous smear attempt, it really doesn't matter. I have
never wor****pped what "Bible Bob" calls "men-gods" nor do I serve
"men-gods." I wor****p and serve the one true God, the God of Abraham and
Isaac. The sermons, lessons, and articles I post are from Christians all
of
whom are much more qualified to write upon the topics presented than
"Bible
Bob" who has been shown and proven to be nothing but an unGodly heretic.]
"Does not Carl day after day by the words he posts and his responses to
others indicate that one must believe what he demands or lose salvation
and
burn in hell?" [Another dishonest question from "Bible Bob." All I have
presented has been Biblical truth. The Word of God has always been the
absolute center and absolute focus of the topics that I have presented
either through my own words or the sermons, lessons, and articles of other
Christians. Again "Bible Bob" is dishonestly attributing something to me
that I never, ever wrote.]
"Why doesn't Carl understand my speech?" [I do. It's the speech of an
unclean, malicious, slanderous, arrogant, wicked heretic by the name of
Robert "Bible Bob" Sowle. It is speech do***ented in this text file
complete
with dates so anyone may verify them via Google Usenet search
(http://groups.google.com/).
It is speech the Bible says is unclean and
wicked. It speech from "Bible Bob" that self-condemns according to the
Bible.]
"Am I not about the only one on the groups (aside from Weatherly) that has
shown an interest in Carl's well being?" [Actually John Weatherly has
shown
interest in my well being while it become painfully obvious that "Bible
Bob"
doesn't but wants to put on a dog-and-pony show fraudulently claiming he
cares about my well-being yet regularly spews forth unclean and unGodly
words of slander, malice, arrogance, wickedness, etc. which clearly
contradict his disingenuous claim here. Furthermore, I have received ample
sup****t not only from Mr. Weatherly but from many others over the years
both
on Usenet as well as in email. However "Bible Bob" shuts his eyes to this
little fact because it disproves his false notions once again.]
"Who else has taken the time to help Carl see where he is error so that he
can repent and become profitable to Christ?" [The fact of the matter is
"Bible Bob" hasn't shown errors on my part. Instead he attacks in a
malicious manner in hopes I will go away so he may deceive more people
with
his heresies. However barring any unforeseen cir***stances, I'm not going
anywhere and will continue to do***ent "Bible Bob"'s lies and heresies as
a
warning to other Christians. Warning other Christians about heretics and
heresies is actually condoned and encouraged in scripture so what I am
doing
with this text file as well as posting articles, sermons, and lessons by
Christians is indeed profitable to Christ.]
"When Carl speaks what does he speak? He speaks of murder." [More slander
from "Bible Bob" of the lowest and vilest form. My Christian brethren,
take
note of "Bible Bob"'s wickedness and avoid him in accordance with
scripture.]
"According to Carl one that does not believe what he orders people to
believe is subject to the wrath." [Again, "Bible Bob" intentionally
misrepresents what I have posted. He includes absolutely no specific
quotes
to sup****t his claim. Furthermore, I have never ordered people to believe
anything. What I have done is present Biblical truth and what the Bible
says
on topics. The same goes for all the sermons, lessons, and articles that I
have posted written by other Christians.]
"According to Carl, those who do not obey him or the doctrines of his
man-gods, are not saved and are to be burned alive in the lake of fire."
[Again, "Bible Bob" intentionally misrepresents what I have posted. He
includes absolutely no specific quotes to sup****t his claim. Furthermore,
I
have never demanded nor requested anyone obey me. What I have done is
present Biblical truth and what the Bible says on topics. The same goes
for
all the sermons, lessons, and articles that I have posted written by other
Christians.]
"Carl, by his false doctrines, proclaims that God is a mass murderer and
that Jesus Christ was a con artist who duped people with docrines that are
not as good and proper as those Carl preaches for his man-gods." [This
claim
by "Bible Bob" not only shows his wicked dishonesty but how desperate
"Bible
Bob" is in his attempts to discredit me. However the more he engages in
this
the more evil he becomes. I never proclaimed nor implied God is a mass
murderer nor have I proclaimed nor implied that Jesus Christ was a con
artist. These are lies by "Bible Bob."]
"Carl preaches about heretics and false prophets and false teachers while
demonstarting that he does not even know what they really are." [Actually
I've
not only demonstrated and explained quite clearly what the Bible teaches
about heresies and heretics, I as well as many other Christians have
exposed
"Bible Bob"'s heresies and shown him to be a heretic. As do***ented by
this
text file, "Bible Bob" can only respond with lies, arrogance and other
forms
of evil.]
"God is love and the Father of those He loves; yet Carl teaches that the
loving Father is a murderer of His own children who will burn them alive
in
a lake of fire." [I have never taught nor proclaimed nor implied that God
is
a murderer of any sort. Again this is a lie from "Bible Bob" of the lowest
and vilest form.]
"Carl accuses God of being a murderer yet the word of God judges Carl as a
man that promotes murder." [I have never taught nor proclaimed nor implied
that God is a murderer of any sort. Again this is a lie from "Bible Bob"
of
the lowest and vilest form. Furthermore, the Bible is not judging me as
one
who promotes murder since I have never done so. More "Bible Bob"
dishonesty.
Here "Bible Bob" acts as though he is a spokesperson for God (e.g. - a
prophet of God) yet by his heresies, lies, arrogance and other wickedness,
"Bible Bob" shows that he has a wicked, unclean heart devoid of the Holy
Spirit. It's not that the Holy Spirit doesn't want to be in "Bible Bob"'s
heart, it's that "Bible Bob" is rejecting the Holy Spirit at the moment. I
sincerely hope this is more akin of the prodigal son and that one day
"Bible
Bob" will accept the Holy Spirit in his heart because when that happens,
"Bible Bob" will also reject his words of slander, deceit, wickedness, and
other uncleanliness.]
[The final two paragraphs from "Bible Bob" on this are quite telling:]
"Don't wait for God to send an email to Carl to correct him. That will
not
happen because (1) God only communicates with those who are in fellow****p
with him and (2) God gave the ministry and word of reconciliation to us to
use as ambassadors for Christ to reconcile men to God.
God and the angels do not have the word and ministry of reconciliation
because it was given to us. For you to hold back from manifesting the
love
necessary to correct Carl is not only cowardly; but a denial of your
responsibilities to God and the Lord Jesus Christ."
[I welcome correction from my Christian brethren. I have never rejected
it.
I embrace communication with Christians. However for "Bible Bob" to claim
that God does not communicate with me because I am not in fellow****p with
God implies that somehow "Bible Bob" is receiving direct divine
information
from God. However since I am in fellow****p with God and He is richly
blessing my life each and every day in ways "Bible Bob" won't accept shows
that "Bible Bob" is once again wrong. Secondly, it's ironic as well as
hypocricital of "Bible Bob" at the same time since he refuses correction
at
almost every instance. So for him to be requesting correction of others
while refusing it himself is a strong example of someone trying to take
the
speck out of someone else's eye while the beam remain in his eye.]
{cont'd in Part 3}
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