My Christian brethren, I urge each and every one who deals with Robert
"Bible Bob" Sowle to copy and keep on hand the following text file to use
as
do***entation and public evidence whenever "Bible Bob" denies he has said
something (and he usually does), been dishonest and/or spread heresy. If
you
notice, "Bible Bob" regularly denies saying or doing something when in
fact
he did. In most cases it centered around some form of heresy and
deception,
a routine deed of "Bible Bob." As an answer to "Bible Bob"'s challenge to
prove "just one" lie that he told, I began to compile direct examples of
"Bible Bob" dishonesty, heresy, malice, slander, smears, character
assassination attempts and other forms of deception directly from his own
posts. I will continue to update it for the foreseeable future and as time
allows. I hope this will aid you in your dealings with "Bible Bob" Sowle.
As
for me, I will comply with the Biblical instructions on how to deal with a
heretic and have nothing to do with "Bible Bob" even though he rapidly
descends into desperation. "Bible Bob" is incapable of speaking the truth
in
love and instead regularly spews forth words of malice, slander, deception
and hatred which are condemned by God. "Bible Bob" has shown himself as
rebelling against God's Word since "Bible Bob" has rejected essential
elements of Biblical Christianity and teaches heresies in lieu of
Scriptural
truth. Since "Bible Bob" rejects all correction from Christians and has
been
duly warned in accordance with scripture, it is God's Word that declares
"Bible Bob" a heretic and a ravenous wolf in a sheep disguise. As a
Christian and in accordance to God's instructions, I forgive "Bible Bob"
of
his transgressions against me and will pray for him and I encourage all my
Christian brethren to do the same. But also in accordance to God's
instructions I will have nothing to do with him at all in the future.
Instead I will continue to wor****p Jesus Christ, my Lord and Savior and
praise His name. I will continue to share Biblical lessons, sermons and
articles from and by other Christians. And I will continue to engage in
civil discourse with other people willing to remain civil as well.
May God bless,
Carl
my website -- http://www.nettally.com/saints/
my blog -- http://www.anniemayhem.com/cgi-bin/wordpress/
---
Do***ented Hypocrisy, Lies, And Heresies From "Bible Bob" Sowle
The following text file is in response to a challenge made by "Bible Bob"
Sowle to show ANY lie "Bible Bob" committed. I took him up on his
challenge
and over time have accurately do***ented many lies and heresies posted on
Usenet from "Bible Bob" Sowle via his own words. I urge my Christian
brethren to save this file and examine "Bible Bob" Sowle's own words and
see
if they hold up as examples of Christian behavior as taught in the Bible
or
do they show someone falsely claiming to be Christian but bears so much
bad
fruit that it becomes obvious they are nothing but a fraud and a sham?
Also
use it and quote from it whenever "Bible Bob" denies that he lies or
denies
a specific incident that may actually be do***ent herein.
[Updated: May 13, 2008 - 1:09pm]
[May 13, 2008]
"Carl has proven himself to be a disgrace to God and the Lord Jesus Christ
through his continual falsehoods.. He is not a true Christian (disciple
of
Jesus Christ); only a pretender. He is an idolator [sic] who denies the
resurrection of Jesus Christ. He also denies that Jesus came in the flesh
which makes him antichrist." [Now we see "Bible Bob" getting TRULY
desperate
and lying through his teeth trying to smear me. First of all, we see
"Bible
Bob" assuming that he has the divine ability to see within others' hearts
and know who is and is not saved. Secondly I have not nor ever have been
an
idolater. Thirdly, I have NEVER denied the bodily resurrection of Jesus
Christ, but "Bible Bob" has as do***ented in this text file. Finally I
NEVER
denied that Jesus Christ came in the flesh. So we see "Bible Bob", a
proven
heretic, intentionally lying about what I believe and have shown.]
[April 16, 2008]
"You come in sheep's clothing with all your "My Christian Brethren" and
"May
God Bless You" and your theological words that you do not understand
pretending to be a Christian. But you are a yapping wolf puppy. Yes, you
are only a puppy Carl still trying to suck milk from your Alpha males, not
able to digest meat unless your wolf daddy digests and regurgitates it for
you." [Just another pathetic example of the broken-down "Bible Bob" Sowle
smear machine. This is "Bible Bob"'s oft-used tact of character
assassination.]
"You are a cultist who wor****ps and serves men gods in lieu of the One
True
God. Everybody can see that, but you." [Actually "everybody" as "Bible
Bob"
puts it doesn't see me that way. Only "Bible Bob" Sowle makes this false
accusation. And predictably he manages to work in the "men gods" nonsense
as
well which "everyone" knows is patently untrue and that I wor****p Jehovah
God of the Bible. Everybody sees that but "Bible Bob." Well, I think
"Bible
Bob" sees that as well but his hatred and darkened heart explains somewhat
why he puts forth these malicious lies. This passage from the book of Mark
sums up why "Bible Bob" Sowle is properly considered "unclean":
Mark 7:20-23
"What comes out of a man is what makes him 'unclean.' For from within, out
of men's hearts, come evil thoughts, ***ual immorality, theft, murder,
adultery, greed, malice , deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and
folly. All these evils come from inside and make a man 'unclean.'"
As you can see from "Bible Bob" Sowle's own words as do***ented in this
text
file as well as Usenet Newgroup Google searches, his words are full of
malice, deceit, slander, arrogance, and folly. "Bible Bob"'s words show
evil
thoughts. And as scripture teaches, you shall know them by their fruit.
Matt 7:15-20
"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but
inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize
them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise
every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good
tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every
tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them."
As demonstrated by "Bible Bob"'s own words of malice, deceit, slander,
arrogance, and folly as well as his unrepentant false teachings of the
essentials of the Christian faith (ex. - "Bible Bob" vehemently denies the
deity of Jesus Christ and the deity of the Holy Spirit) his fruit is
indeed
bad.]
"You are a false teacher that uses false doctrines and theological terms
to
deceive your readers. Take for example your incorrect usage of "deity",
above. That is called false teaching."
[What "Bible Bob" is referencing is where I wrote, and I quote: "Some of
these false teachers deny the deity of Jesus Christ." Which is a proper
and
accurate use of the term in regards to Biblical truth. However, keep in
mind
that "Bible Bob" denies the deity of Jesus Christ. And "Bible Bob" falsely
accuses me of being a false teacher even though all that I have presented
in
regards to essentials of the Christian faith are Biblically sound. This
gives further evidence to "Bible Bob"'s heretical ways.]
"Then there is your casting stones at those who teach that works are
required for salvation while teaching the same things yourself. That is
called hypocricy. Maybe if you learned what salvation means and what
works
means, then maybe you would know what you are talking about."
[Another blatant "Bible Bob" lie {tm}. I have never taught nor promoted a
salvation by works theology. I have been absolutely clear that salvation,
according to the Bible taken in totality (where it is references almost
200
times), is by the Grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ and NOT by
any
works of man. Some of the clearest references in Scripture are:
Eph 2:7-9
For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith - and this not from
yourselves, it is the gift of God - not by works, so that no one can
boast.
Acts 16:29-31
The jailer called for lights, rushed in and fell trembling before Paul and
Silas. He then brought them out and asked, "Sirs, what must I do to be
saved?"
They replied, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved - you and
your household."
Rom 3:21-24
This righteousness from God comes through faith in Jesus Christ to all who
believe. There is no difference, for all have sinned and fall short of the
glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption
that came by Christ Jesus.
I could easily show numerous other clearcut references to further prove
this
point. However this is sufficient to show a) "Bible Bob" lied again and b)
salvation is indeed given freely by the Grace of God though faith in Jesus
Christ and NOT by any works of man.]
"Denying the false doctrine of the trinity is not false teaching." [As I
have pointed out numerous times thus far, "Bible Bob" Sowle denies the
Biblical doctrine of the Holy Trinity. This admission from "Bible Bob"
confirms it once again and truly shows his heretical nature.]
"You see, Carl, a false teacher is one who teaches something false (like
you
do)." [Another "Bible Bob" lie. I have not taught falsely unlike "Bible
Bob"
Sowle who denies the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ, denies the Holy
Trinity, denies the deity of Jesus Christ, denies the deity of the Holy
Spirit, calls Methodist and Baptist denominations "cults" while teaching
that the Watchtower Bible & Tract Society (Jehovah's Witnesses) and other
cults are legitimate and orthodox Christian denominations, denies the
relevancy of the Old Testament to today's Christians, etc. These are a few
of the many heresies and false teachings of Robert "Bible Bob" Sowle.
Isaiah 5:20
Woe to those who call evil good
and good evil,
who put darkness for light
and light for darkness,
who put bitter for sweet
and sweet for bitter.
According to this passage woe to "Bible Bob" Sowle.]
"A false teacher is one who teaches the trinity." [As I have pointed out
numerous times thus far, "Bible Bob" Sowle denies the Biblical doctrine of
the Holy Trinity. This admission from "Bible Bob" confirms it once again
and
truly shows his heretical nature.]
"What is a degree in theology? It is a degree in false doctrines whether
it
be a Catholic, Baptist, Methodist, Mormon, or Jehovah's Witness. A
theological degree requires training in how to deceive people with false
doctrines. Theological degrees are proof of guilt and proof of conspiracy
against God and man kind." [This statement from "Bible Bob" Sowle is so
patently absurd that merely reading it shows how wrong the man is.
Furthermore, keep in mind that "Bible Bob" has had absolutely no formal
theological training and is self-taught {all freely admitted by "Bible
Bob"
Sowle}. I submitted some of his posts of his self-proclaimed "superior"
teaching and Biblical language skills to several legitimate scholars of
Biblical languages and all who responded concluded that "Bible Bob" is an
unreliable and untrustworthy source for Biblical language translation who
had to fabricate grammar rules that never existed to sup****t much of his
personal translations. Furthermore, they immediately recognized that
Robert
"Bible Bob" Sowle, in addition to having extremely poor Biblical language
skills, also commits bad exegesis and holds to several unBiblical
doctrines
teachings. So a possible reason "Bible Bob" vehemently belittles and
reviles
formal theological training is that "Bible Bob" wouldn't do well at all in
such a setting. He has admitted in the past that he was, at one time,
taught
by Baptists, but rejected their theology and abandoned them. I guess they
confronted his erroneous beliefs and "Bible Bob"'s pride and arrogance
wouldn't allow him to accept the truth so he ran away. This would also
explain his intense dislike of Baptists and the Baptist denomination.]
"Of course, your habit is to wor****p men and the things of men rather than
wor****p God and know the things of God. You are blind to spiritual truth
knowing only what your men gods permit you to think you know." [And
predictably, "Bible Bob" throws in his absurdly false accusation that I
wor****p men instead of God. This lie has never convinced anyone that I
don't
wor****p God and God alone yet "Bible Bob" seems to think if he keeps
repeating it, it will somehow become truth.]
[April 8, 2008]
"The types of data, how we handle data and how we use the data is also
relevant. Carl focuses on ****ography, you on business data, and I
concentrate on personal improvement data." [Lovely. Now "Bible Bob" false
accuses me of focusing on ****ography. How pathetic is that?]
"We have different goals. Carl to impress people, you to impress
yourself,
and me to impress God." [And this statement, probably more than most,
exemplifies "Bible Bob" Sowle's braggadocio, self-righteousness, and
extreme
hubris. He actually believes that it is his goal to impress God?!? The
Bible
makes it clear that our goal is to PLEASE God, not impress God. Keep in
mind
that "Bible Bob" teaches falsely on so many topics that this error is
merely
one among many errors of his.]
"Of course the vast amount of humility I ["Bible Bob"] manifest" ["vast
amount of humility" from "Bible Bob"?!? This from the man who publicly
stated his teachings and translations were superior to all others? This
from
the man whose stated goal is to impress God? And he has the gall to claim
he
exhibits vast amounts of HUMILITY? I thought the previous statement above
was the most extreme example of his hubris but this comes awful close to
being just as exteme.]
[April 7, 2008]
"Carl McCaskey of Tallahassee Florida posts frequently to the Usenet
groups
cross posting to many groups,. In most of his posts he includes two web
site links to the web sites that he advertises. Often these posts are
nothing more than articles written by someone else which he precedes by a
short blurb and follows by a close with an advertisement for his web
sites.
This post which is cross posted to the groups that Carl posts to
illustrates
how Carl uses cross posting to advertise his web sites." [In many of
"Bible
Bob"'s posts he includes a link to the web site he advertises. So what?
Nothing wrong with that. So why does "Bible Bob" object so vehemently to
me
posting the URL's to my personal website and my blog (both simply hobbies
which contain no advertisements) but posts the URL to his website? I
believe
that is a definitive example of hypocrisy. Secondly, the groups to which I
post are all Christian groups therefore the Christian sermons, lessons and
articles all properly fit within the descriptive nature of each newsgroup.
Thirdly, there has never been anything wrong, improper nor unethical in
posting articles written by various authors since Usenet was originally
created in the 80's as long as the material is not illegal or violates
copyright. The Christian sermons, articles and lessons I have shared in
the
past have been posted by myself in Christian newsgroups. So not only do we
have more "Bible Bob" dishonesty {tm} but "Bible Bob" hypocrisy {tm} as
well. Two-for-one.]
"Carl has been spoken to by different people on many occassions [sic]
about
his spamming, advertising and trolling but Carl will not listen to anyone.
Carl is not concerned with proper behavior when it might interfere with
advertising his web sites." [Only a handful have objected to my posting in
Christian newsgroups in the approximately 20 years I have been posting on
Usenet and those have always been cultists, atheists, heretics (like
"Bible
Bob"), agnostics and other unbelievers. And each and every one of those
individuals, including "Bible Bob" post to multiple newsgroups, often
unrelated to the described topic of the newgroup, making their objection
hypocritical and moot. Furthermore, "Bible Bob" accusing me of spamming is
false. There are several active definitions of spam but an acceptable one
that is Usenet specific is "excessive multiple posting." So what is
excessive? Is it the 10 Christian newsgroups I normally include.
Apparently
Microsoft doesn't think it's excessive because that is the number allowed
in
one singular upload (incidentally I use MS Outlook Newsreader to post new
entries and some responses). Is five excessive? Google doesn't think so
because that's how many you can post to via their system (which I use
periodically due to my ISP being limited by their provider on how much
{percentage-wise} incoming posts are captured. I contend that since I
limit
my Christian-related posts to the same 10 Christian-related newsgroups
consistently and since my Christian-related posts all fit the themes of
the
10 Christian-related newsgroups, it is not spam. On the other hand, "Bible
Bob" has originated several politically-related posts with absolutely no
religious content whatsoever and cross-posted it to Christian newsgroups.
This is much closer to qualifying as spam than the materials I have
posted.
More do***ented "Bible Bob" hypocrisy.]
"The trolling habits of Carl are a little more serious. A troll is
someone
who posts something to motivate people to behave incorrectly." ["Bible
Bob"
certainly engages in fabricating definitions to suit his ever-changing
purposes, doesn't he? In this case he offers a definition of "troll"
relating to Usenet that isn't an accepted one. According to PC Magazine, a
troll is someone who posts derogatory messages about sensitive subjects on
newsgroups and chat rooms to bait users into responding. This is something
in which I have not engaged. People like "sheblew," "rogue," "MarkT," "bob
young" (yes, even "Bible Bob" from time to time) and others are more
accurately recognized on Christian Usenet newsgroups as being trolls. Yet
you never hear "Bible Bob" complaining about their trollish behavior. More
"Bible Bob" hypocrisy.]
"Usenet discussion groups are for discussions." [Once again, "Bible Bob"
fabricates a false definition to suit his purpose. Usenet NEWGROUPS (not
"discussion groups") are open forums (exception - moderated newsgroups)
where anyone can post anything they wish to (exception - illegal
materials).
Posting articles on newsgroups has been acceptable since its inception in
the early 1980s and still is acceptable today. There is no requirement to
engage in discussions, debates and/or flamewars as "Bible Bob" erroneously
suggests.]
"When Carl trolls his bait and gets a bite (someone challenges him on what
he posted) Carl
responds with a Bible verse or many Bible verses which he does not
understand or rightly divide." [Actually, this is another "Bible Bob" lie.
The Christian sermons, articles and lessons I have posted are to help
spread
the Gospel as God wishes His children to do. Furthermore, I have had no
problems in the past and continue to have no problems in engaging in civil
dialogue with mature, rational individuals who respond to my posts. To
claim
or imply otherwise as "Bible Bob" Sowle is doing is disingenuous. When I
do
respond with Scripture only, it is showing what the Bible says concerning
the responder usually someone only wi****ng to lure me (trolling anyone?)
into Godless chatter and vain and useless argument: something God has
clearly instructed us, as Christians, to avoid. Those Scriptures are
rightly
divided and present properly. The fact that "Bible Bob" objects to posting
Scripture is quite telling. The fact that "Bible Bob" is also one of those
individuals using provocation, personal attacks and false accusations to
lure me into Godless chatter as well as vain and useless arguments is also
quite telling. "Bible Bob" trolling? More hypocrisy by Robert "Bible Bob"
Sowle.]
"There is nothing wrong with quoting Bible verses in a response unless it
is
done in the hateful way that Carl does it." [And "Bible Bob" once again
predictably falsely accuses me of hate.]
"The word of God requires that Christians speak the truth in love, that
they
do not use the word of God deceitfully, and that they provide doctrine,
reproof and correction which is instruction in righteousness so that
people
may be perfected unto all good works." [First off, I haven't used the Word
of God deceitfully nor can "Bible Bob" provide do***entation that I have.
Secondly, "Bible Bob" is committing the act of "prooftexting" here as well
as misquoting scripture. This violates the "rightly dividing" "Bible Bob"
is
so fond of referring. The ACCURATE and IN-CONTEXT Scripture "Bible Bob"
manages to misquote is from 2 Timothy 3:16, 17 which reads:
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be
thoroughly equipped for every good work. (NIV)
Thirdly, he conveniently avoids mentioning the following scripture as
well:
Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the
word
of God. (Ephesians 6:17: NIV)
For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged
sword , it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow;
it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart. (Hebrews 4:12: NIV)
Describes Scripture in a more aggressive, active manner that "Bible Bob"
ignores. Finally, "Bible Bob" implies he speaks "the truth in love." Where
is the love when "Bible Bob" lies and commits acts of gross hypocrisy as
this text file clearly do***ents?]
"If Carl judges that the person responding to his post is an unbeliever he
will throw out a bunch of verses in his response without telling the
person
that he is speaking against what the person has done or is wrong about."
[Again, another "Bible Bob" lie. I've conversed with unbelievers before
and
as long as they remain civil and mature, we converse just fine. When it
becomes apparent that the unbeliever in question refuses to behave in an
honest, civil and mature manner I walk away from any conversation with
them
and if they persist in addressing me in a dishonest, uncivil and immature
manner, I will not respond with anything but Scripture that shows clearly
why God does not wish for me to engage in discourse with them. When a
person
posts in a dishonest, uncivil and immature manner, it is making a right
judgment (promoted by Scripture) to call it such and also right by God's
Word to cease conversing with that individual. But "Bible Bob" Sowle would
have you believe that it is righteous to engage in such Godless chatter
when
according to God (1 Timothy 6:20) it is not and we, as Christians are to
avoid such Godless chatter.]
"If Carl judges that the person he is responding to is a heretic then Carl
may do the same thing; again not telling the person what he has done or
said
wrong." [Again, another "Bible Bob" lie. I've conversed with those who
taught falsely and refuted their errors. I have properly warned them
according to God's instructions (Titus 3:10). And when they continue with
their false teachings, it is by their own words and deeds do they qualify
under God's definition as a heretic. And according to God's Word a heretic
is "warped," "sinful" and "self-condemned" (Titus 3:11). When it becomes
apparent that the person is indeed a proven heretic (such as "Bible Bob"
Sowle) then God instructs us as Christians to reject their heresies, warn
our brethren of them and have nothing to do with them. When the heretic
posts in a dishonest, uncivil and immature manner to attempt to lure
someone
into Godless chatter (as he is attempting to do with these false
accusations), it is making a right judgment (promoted by Scripture) to
call
it such and also right by God's Word to cease conversing with that
individual. But "Bible Bob" Sowle would have you believe that it is
righteous to engage in such Godless chatter when according to God (1
Timothy
6:20) it is not and we, as Christians are to avoid such Godless chatter.]
"What Carl is doing in practice is making unrighteous judgments against
people, not telling the person what he has done wrong so that the person
might chose to correct the wrong behavior, and Carl uses the word of God
deceitfully in the process." [More "Bible Bob" lies. Those who claim
"there
is no God" are clearly unbelievers. That is a righteous judgment. Those
who
believe in false gods are clearly unbelievers and cultists. That is a
righteous judgment. Those who reject the essentials of Christian doctrine
and unrepentantly promote false teachings are heretics by Biblical
standards
and definitions. That is a righteous judgment. Those are all righteous
judgments because they are ALL Biblically based and Biblically sound
judgments. Furthermore, I have never been afraid nor intimidated in
showing
the errors unbelievers and heretics promote unlike what "Bible Bob"
falsely
accuses. God has also granted me the wisdom to know when it's time to no
longer engage in dialogue with such people. This is also righteous
judgment.]
"Carl doesn'tr [sic] give a hoot about the standing or state in Christ of
the person he responds to." [I've rightly divided and shared much
Scripture
showing what God says about unbelievers, false teachers, false apostles,
heretics, mockers of God, liars, etc. It's the fruit the individual
produces
which shows what is within their hearts. Those who produce bad fruit have
no
standing in Christ unless and until they repent of such. This is just
another "Bible Bob" lie {tm}.]
"Carl does nothing more than act religious and pretend that he is superior
to the person he is talking down to." [This from the person who flatly
stated that his teachings are "superior" to all others and that his
personal
interpretations are "superior" to all others? Talk about the heights of
arrogance and hypocrisy! "Bible Bob" has an overabundance of each as
evidenced by his own words. But this is yet another false accusation from
Robert "Bible Bob" Sowle.]
"In short, Carl pretends to be a god who has the authority to judge people
and execute people
without any form of due process." [More lies from "Bible Bob." I've never
pretended, claimed nor implied that I was "a god." Furthermore, I have
never
executed anyone either figuratively or literally. These are quite ungodly
and unholy words from "Bible Bob."]
"When you take into consideration that Carl has a reputation for being
hateful and spiteful towards even his own brothers and sisters in Christ,
this is a significant problem." [When you take into consideration that I
haven't been hateful and spiteful to anyone, including those who attack
me,
persecute me and wish me harm, it become apparent that "Bible Bob" is
lying
again. When you take into consideration that "Bible Bob" considers those
who
claim there is no God as "brothers and sisters in Christ" it becomes
apparent that "Bible Bob" is one who calls good evil and evil good. Listen
not unto "Bible Bob" Sowle my Christian brethren for he will lead you
astray. The proof is here for all to see. His fruit is rotten. His
teachings
false. His ways evil and wicked. According to God, in His Word, "Bible
Bob"
is a false teacher.a heretic.a charlatan.a fraud.to be avoided.]
"I (Robert "Bible Bob" Sowle) have collected 1771 posts by Carl McCaskey."
[Doubtful.]
"You have posted over twenty posts tonight in which you ran begging for
help
from other posters and ran begging for helkp [sic] to your men gods."
[Well,
"Bible Bob" is still predictable. Using the "men gods" false accusation
again. And nowhere did I go begging for help from anyone other than God.
Just illustrates the desperation from the Robert "Bible Bob" Sowle
Character
Assassination Service {tm}.]
"You got busted in another of your lies and rare running liek [sic] the
dickens trying to get away." ["Bible Bob"s is apparently delusional, too
since I did no such thing. But don't confuse "Bible Bob" with the truth
when
he only wishes to lie.]
"You aren't getting away this time as you have before with your lies and
character assasination attempts." [Well since "Bible Bob" hasn't shown
where
I have lied nor has provided any proof that I have engaged in character
assassination, the only logical conclusion is that this is yet another
undo***ented false accusation by "Bible Bob." In other words, a "Bible
Bob"
lie {tm}.]
"It is you Carl McCaskey that have been indcating [sic] that a person who
does not believe in the trinity is not saved." [Nope. Never said it. Never
wrote it. Never implied it. This is a false accusation originally
fabricated
by the atheist and God-mocker known as "rogue" who claimed to have
"personally witnessed" it. However when called to produce this quote, he
could not and rather than admit he was wrong, he hemmed and hawed and
dodged
and ducked and tried, vainly and weakly, to take other comments of mine
and
try to dishonestly twist them into meaning something else. "Bible Bob"
jumped on that bandwagon yet is also unable to come up with any do***ented
quote written by myself. Instead, the best "Bible Bob" can come up with is
taking a couple of partial quotes out of context from an article written
by
Dr. John Ankerberg and Dr. John Weldon that I posted and tried to
intentionally misrepresent what those two individuals wrote. Neither of
the
paragraphs that "Bible Bob" lifted did either Ankerberg or Weldon state
that
"a person who does not believe in the trinity is not saved." Did you get
that? NOWHERE in the paragraphs "Bible Bob" lifted OUT OF CONTEXT did it
state that "a person who does not believe in the trinity is not saved." In
fact, Ankerberg and Weldon stated quite clearly that "prior knowledge of
the
Trinity, especially in its theological formulation, is not necessary for a
person to be saved" which is the OPPOSITE of what "Bible Bob" and "rogue"
claims I wrote. Furthermore, the SECOND paragraph "Bible Bob" lifted has a
little number -- in this case, the number 9 which corresponds to a
footnote
and also the paragraph was in quotations WHICH HE OMITS thereby
intentionally misleading the reader to the source which was an EXCERPT
from
a book written by Victor Paul Wierwille, founder of The Way International,
who REJECTS THE TRINITY and the quote is to illustrate an example by one
who
teaches a false god. But "Bible Bob" INTENTIONALLY OMITS THE QUOTATIONS
MARKS and OMITS THE SPACING BETWEEN ANKERBERG & WELDON'S COMMENTS AND
WIERWILLE'S COMMENTS attempting to make it appear that Ankerberg and
Weldon
wrote the entire second paragraph when the PROVEN FACT IS they wrote ONLY
THE FIRST TWENTY WORDS of the second paragraph and WIERWILLE is the one
WHO
IS CITED in the remainder of the paragraph. This would have been evident
IF
"BIBLE BOB" LEFT THE QUOTATION MARKS IN AS WELL AS THE SPACING. But he
didn't
nor did he bother to include the FOOTNOTE which also clearly showed the
Weirwille citation. This is a new low for "Bible Bob" Sowle. In short,
"Bible Bob" cannot provide any post written by me where I said "a person
who
does not believe in the trinity is not saved" nor can he provide any quote
from any Christian sermon, article and lesson where it is stated "a person
who does not believe in the trinity is not saved." So "Bible Bob" is the
one
caught in a lie that he can't get out of nor will admit he is wrong. Such
arrogance from "Bible Bob" Sowle. He knows he's wrong. He knows "rogue" is
wrong. Yet he clings to a lie. Further evidence of the bad fruit "Bible
Bob"
produces. Read the article by Doctors Ankerberg and Weldon IN ITS ENTIRETY
and IN CONTEXT and you will fail to find any evidence where either of them
stated either directly or indirectly that "a person who does not believe
in
the trinity is not saved."]
"It is you who have been indcating [sic] that a person who does not
beleive
[sic] in the trinity isnhell [sic] bound." [See comments immediately
above.]
"Well Buddy, the Bible says there needs to be two witnesses and there are
at
least two witnesses to your treachery and lies." [Again "Bible Bob"
wrongly
divides scripture. I assume "Bible Bob" is referring to Matthew 18:15-17
which reads:
"If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between
the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. But
if
he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that 'every matter
may
be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.' If he refuses
to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even
to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector." (NIV)
What "Bible Bob" misleads here is that the other "witness" is an avowed
atheist using the nick "rogue" who takes great delight in attacking
Christians. Definitely not a brother in Christ. Secondly, it is strongly
implied that the witnesses, who shall be Christian brethren, are to
testify
truthfully. Well, neither "Bible Bob" (a proven heretic) nor "rogue" (an
avowed atheist and rejecter of Christianity) are brothers in Christ nor
have
either of them provided truthful and accurate testimony therefore once
again
"Bible Bob" is refuted soundly. And his accusations once again, ring
falsely. Typical. "Bible Bob" tries vainly to be self-righteous, but fails
in even doing that!]
"What follows is an example of the unChristian behavior of Carl McCaskey
who
deliberately posts solely for the sake of slander Usenet posts containing
my
name in the subject line knowing full well that that anyone doing a search
for my name will turn up this and the many other posts similar to this one
that Carl has posted during the past year." [Actually what followed in
"Bible Bob"'s post was the do***ented lies, libel and heresies from this
very text file. Technically it is not slander since it not spoken but
written but is not libelous either since the quotes are from "Bible Bob"'s
own posts. Secondly, God desires us to warn Christians about false
teachers
and heretics like "Bible Bob" Sowle therefore my posting his do***ented
lies
and heresies cannot be unChristian according to scripture.]
"Carl's purpose is purely destructive and very unChristian. Would Jesus
do
something like this? Would he?" [Warning others of false teachers and
heretics with their heresies is clearly NOT unChristian. Jesus warned
others
of false teachings and encouraged others to seek the truth and reject
lies.
"Bible Bob" claimed he didn't tell lies and challenged me to prove any
deception on his part. Now he is whining that I am doing as he challenged?
Such hypocricy! My purpose is to warn Christian brethren of the proven
heretic known as "Bible Bob" Sowle who is actually the one habitually
behaving in wicked and evil ways. This text file gives clear evidence of
his
deceit.]
"If Carl were a real Christian would he not take the time to provide the
doctrine, reproof, and correction which is instruction in righteousnews
[sic] from the word of God if he were genuinely interested in service to
the
Lord Jesus Christ or my spirtiual [sic] welfare?" [I have provided much
God-breathed scripture for the teaching, rebuking, correcting and training
in righteousness especially via Biblically-based sermons, lessons and
articles written by many Christian authors, all of whom "Bible Bob" Sowle
falsely claims to be cultists and nonChristian. God has made it clear
concerning heretics like "Bible Bob" who have been properly warned of
their
false teachings, abhorrent behavior, and deceitful & wicked ways yet
continue in their evil when He declared "You may be sure that such a man
is
warped and sinful; he is self-condemned." (Titus 3:11)]
"Would not Jesus or the Apostle Paul show me from the rightly divided
scriptures that I was wrong so that I could improve myself? Why doesn't
Carl do what Jesus would do?" [Since "Bible Bob" has been shown from
Scripture where he has erred in many areas, including, but not limited to,
essential Christian doctrine not only by myself but by numerous Christians
yet continues to teach falsely, make false claims against others and
engage
in proven deceitful behavior he has shown himself conclusively to be a
heretic and Jesus as well as the Apostle Paul teaches that we, as
Christians
are to reject false teachers like "Bible Bob" Sowle and their false
teachings. So I am doing what Jesus would do -- rejecting false teachings
and false teachers and having nothing to do with them. Furthermore, I am
doing what Jesus would do in warning Christian brethren as He did to watch
out for the ferocious wolves like "Bible Bob." For Jesus taught:
Matt 7:15-20
"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but
inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize
them.
Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise
every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good
tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every
tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
Many have witnessed the rotten fruit coming from "Bible Bob" Sowle. Much
of
it do***ented in this text file. What happens to those who do not bear
good
fruit? They are "cut down and thrown into the fire." That is what happens
to
all unrepentant deceivers.]
"Because [sic] is petty and hateful and seeks to do harm to a man and his
family solely for
the sake of revenge." [Clearly a blatant attempt at character
assassination
by "Bible Bob" Sowle since I am not nor ever have sought to do harm to him
nor his family. How "Bible Bob" can possibly try to convince others that I
am seeking harm to his family is ludicrous and indicates a desperate act
by
a desperate man. Revenge? What revenge? I am simply answering "Bible
Bob"'s
challenge that I show where he has lied. I am also warning Christian
brethren of the false teachings of a ravenous wolf who attempts to deceive
even the elect. This is something God desires of every Christian -- to
help
other Christians avoid false teachings and false teachers.]
"What if I were to apply for a job or apply for a loan or something where
someone might run a check of my name on the internet." [That's not how
background checks are done on individuals by employers and financial
institutions. Either "Bible Bob" is ignorant on the topic or intentionally
being deceptive. To give him the benefit of the doubt I feel it's more
likely to be the former rather than the latter. I do know quite a bit
concerning background checks.]
"Carl is a pretender. Look how he begins his opening paragraph. He
begins
"My Christian brethren" knowing full well that he is about to sin against
the Lord Jesus Christ and against a brother in Christ." [False teachers
are
not brothers in Christ. Heretics are not brothers in Christ. Warning
Christian brethren against false teachers and heretics is not sinning
against our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ whom "Bible Bob" denies His
deity.]
"Carl then makes numerous false charges which he does not do***ent." [All
the quotes contained herein are directly from "Bible Bob" Sowle and can be
verified via Google Usenet searches. Therefore, I am indeed do***enting
and
have do***ented hundreds of false charges "Bible Bob" Sowle has made
against
me. He has also made numerous false charges against many others as well.
This charge by "Bible Bob" is also, predictably, false as well.]
"Carl McCaskey is a fraud, a hypocrite, an evil doer, and a very naughty
boy." [Let's see, just prior to this, "Bible Bob" claims I made "numerous
false charges" that I did not do***ent yet here he makes several false
charges in one sentence with NOT ONE IOTA OF DO***ENTATION. Quite an
example
of hypocrisy on "Bible Bob"'s part yet once again. Furthermore, this is
yet
another example of how Robert "Bible Bob" Sowle engages in character
assassination and becomes yet another smear merchant. Would Jesus Christ
do
that? Of course not. But "Bible Bob" does. Routinely. And habitually.]
"Also, according to the posts that Carl is posting about heretics; using
his
definitions, it is he that is the heretic. I am not calling him one, only
saying that he fits the description of what he considers
a heretic to be." [Actually the definitions I have cited to avoid
confusion
as to how God defines heretics and heresy are all from well-respected and
accepted theologically sound sources. Furthermore, since I am not one
denying essential Christian doctrine as "Bible Bob" has done and continues
to do in spite of being corrected with rightly divided Scripture on
numerous
occasions over the years by numerous Christians, I do not fit any
legitimate
definition of "heretic." Hence, "Bible Bob" falsely accuses once again. Is
character assassination like "Bible Bob" routinely and habitually engages
in
a Christian act of charity? No. Is being a smear merchant like "Bible Bob"
continues to be something Jesus Christ would do? Of course not. So ask
yourself this: why does "Bible Bob" continue to engage in such unChristian
behaviors?]
[March 31, 2008]
"What changes are you [Carl] going to make in your life so that you won't
continue to abhor the Lord Jesus Christ?" [Another "Bible Bob" lie {tm}
since I am not intentionally abhorring the Lord Jesus Christ. Also note
the
wording of "Bible Bob"'s question. Follows the unethical type of "how long
has it been since you stopped beating your wife?" This type of attack is a
oft-used tactic used by "Bible Bob" called the strawman argument.]
"Humility is what you [Carl] lack. Following in His footsteps and
following
His example is what you [Carl] do not do. What a hypocrite you [Carl]
are.
Jesus always did the Father's will. You [Carl] do your [Carl] will to
advertise your [Carl] websites." [More personal attacks by "Bible Bob."
Typical. Furthermore, "Bible Bob" once again hypocritically complains that
I
include the URL's for my personal website and my blog {both just my
personal
hobbies and neither a commercial site} while "Bible Bob" has a long
history
of including the URL for his personal website in his signature including
March 31st, 2008. This is clearcut hypocrisy that is proven in "Bible
Bob"'s
posts as opposed to "Bible Bob"'s false accusation against me.]
"From the Baptists and Methodists sprouted such groups as the Ku Klux
Klan
(Pulaski, TN which even today boasts at least 10 Baptist churches, 10
Methodist churches, and 1 Catholic church and 0
Synagogues)." [Once again, the proven heretic "Bible Bob" shows his hatred
of Methodist and Baptist denominations of which he considers cults. Now he
intentional misrepresents them. Furthermore, he libels the small town of
of
Pulaski, Tennessee with a population of less than 8,000 people. Although
historically the KKK did indeed originate in Pulaski, the town condemned
the
organization and still does. "Bible Bob" implies that since there are no
synagogues in the tiny town that somehow it makes the town discriminatory.
This shows how dishonest "Bible Bob" is and how hardened his heart is.]
"Anyone with a set of eyeballs can see your [Carl] trolling, your [Carl]
attacks against Christians and Christianity, tendency to mock God, and to
spread false doctrines. [Actually "anyone with a set of eyeballs" and an
ounce of common sense can tell "Bible Bob"'s accusations here are all
completely and utterly false.]
[March 27, 2008]
"People like Carl have mental health issues and should not be used as a
standard by which to stereotype the whole family." [So "Bible Bob" is a
clinical psychologist now? And can make thorough diagnoses via the
Internet
without ever meeting the patient? Actually, this is a new tactic in "Bible
Bob"'s character assassination. Still incredibly deceitful but new.]
"You are right, Carl doesn't know his donkey from a whole [sic] in the
ground when it comes to the bible. [Actually I know a whole lot more than
"Bible Bob" will ever admit. I know that much of what "Bible Bob" teaches,
such as denying the deity of Jesus Christ, is quite unBiblical and
heretical. Furthermore, when "Bible Bob" refers to the Bible as "bible" he
seems to be deliberately using the generic form instead of the proper noun
form which requires capitalization. Whether "Bible Bob" is doing this
intentionally or unintentionally via sheer laziness is unknown. Many times
his spelling and grammar are atrocious but not something of which to make
an
issue.]
"That's only half the problem. He [Carl] don't [sic] even know what the
word of God is or how to read it, yet." [Actually, this is yet another
false
accusation from "Bible Bob" Sowle. Notice once again how he uses the lower
case "word" instead of Word. Anyway, I read the Bible just fine and thanks
to the Holy Spirit, I garner further understanding each and every time.
"Bible Bob" on the other hand attempts to convince others that his
personal
revelation is the only correct one and all the Christian theologians who
came before him were all wrong. However the Bereanic approach proves that
"Bible Bob" teaches false doctrine. Also, legitimate Biblical language
scholars whom I have consulted by sending examples of "Bible Bob"'s
interpretation of Biblical Greek unanimously agree that "Bible Bob" is
very
weak in regards to proper Greek translations and grammatical usages. In
short, "Bible Bob" is no Biblical expert nor authority of the Holy
Scriptures.]
"He [Carl] is an idolator who wor****ps men in lieu of God. Everybody but
Carl sees that." [And as predictable as always, "Bible Bob" trots.er.drags
out the dead horse false accusation that I wor****p men in lieu of God.
Only
"Bible Bob" makes this false accusation so that fact alone makes his claim
that "Everybody but Carl sees that" to be patently false as well since no
one else agrees with him on that point. In fact in the past, several
individuals on Usenet have directly addressed this false accusation by
pointing out that there is no evidence whatsoever that I have ever
wor****pped men. The reason there is no evidence is that I do not nor ever
have wor****pped men nor will I ever wor****p men. I wor****p God the Father,
God the Son & God the Holy Spirit. My actions show "Bible Bob"s dead horse
of an accusation to be completely and utterly false. Everybody but "Bible
Bob" Sowle sees that. Well, I contend that "Bible Bob" sees that and
recognizes it but he has become so vile and twisted that he intentionally
engages in such attempts at character assassination. He has been so
thoroughly refuted by myself, the Christian sermons, articles and lessons
as
well by other Christians that all he can do is lash out at those who have
exposed his heresies. No Christian that I am aware of gives him any
credibility whatsoever.]
"Some of us 'real' children of God do try to learn the word of God and are
not the robots of men that you make us all out to be." [Heretics like
"Bible
Bob" are not children of God.]
"True, there are many who like Carl are cult followers who wor****p men and
the doctrines of men in lieu of God. [There's that dead horse false
accusation again from "Bible Bob" Sowle.]
"I think that if you do a little research you will find that the
fundamentalists and evangelics [sic] (who are not really evangelists) are
becoming a smaller percentage of so called Christianity. I think you will
find that they are loosing [sic] members to the Pentecostals and
Unitarians
and to home based fellow****ps where hyperreligiosity [sic] don't [sic]
float
well. [Wishful thinking from "Bible Bob" with no basis in fact.]
"All English Bibles are versions of versions and contain many errors.
Anyone who has read more than one; knows there are contradictions and
thousands of errors. I'll give you 1,800 free of charge. There is no
indefinite article in the Greek. Therefore there can be no "a" or "an"
used
in the English version New Testaments unless the words are in italics to
show they have been added. They aren't. How many thousand more would you
like me to point out for you?" ["Bible Bob" has made this false claim
before
and it has thoroughly debunked numerous times before. Furthermore, "Bible
Bob" exhibits many errors in his interpretation of Biblical languages and
many errors in the grammatical aspects of Biblical languages. You'd think
someone who claims to be such an expert on Biblical languages
{specifically
in this case, "Bible Bob" Sowle} would have a better grasp of the English
language in regards to spelling and grammar than he shows in his writings.
Granted, there are many men of God who rightly divided the Word of God and
rightly preached the Word of God who also butchered the English language
so
I can normally set such errors aside. However in "Bible Bob" Sowle's case,
he makes such a big issue out of how his translations and intepretations
are
superior that all others that in return he should be held to a higher
standard in his grammar, spelling and punctuation. In those parameters,
"Bible Bob" is sorely deficient.]
[March 19, 2008]
"You [Carl] have a long history of calling others 'fool'." [Actually, no.
This is a false accusation from "Bible Bob" Sowle that is unsubstantiated.
As usual he makes an accusation with no evidence. What I _have_ done is
shown from the Bible whom God considers fools. This includes all those who
claim there is no God. This is substantiated in Psalm 14:1 but "Bible Bob"
Sowle claims that the passage, and I quote, was "written to Israel; not
unbelievers outside the jurisdiction of King David's realm." Unfortunately
for "Bible Bob" the passage applies to EVERYONE who claims there is no God
and furthermore it applies today just as it applied in King David's time.
This also shows how "Bible Bob" wrongly divides scripture.
"Here's the real deal, buddy - you don't get to pick and chose who your
brothers and sisters in Christ are. You are stuck with them just like we
are stuck with you because God made the choices." [Is "Bible Bob"
attempting
to imply that all those who claim there is no God are brothers and sisters
in Christ? Is "Bible Bob", a proven heretic, trying to convince others
that
he is a "brother in Christ" even though he denies Christ's deity? More
"Bible Bob" deception.]
"You do not know who is saved and who is not saved." [Never claimed I did.
I
have only shown what the Bible has said about those who die without ever
accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior.]
"You do not know whether anyone will burn in hell." [Is "Bible Bob"
implying
that NO ONE will be sent to hell?]
"In fact, based on your posting history you have demonstrated that you
know
very little about anything." [Nice insult. Another lie, but an interesting
insult nonetheless. Shows that hypocrisy within "Bible Bob" is still
prevalent.]
"What you have proved that you know is a list of names of men - men that
you
wor****p in lieu of God and the Lord Jesus Christ." [And as predicted,
"Bible
Bob" falsely accuses me of wor****pping men again. Patently absurd and
absolutely false since I wor****p Jesus Christ - always have and always
will.
But "Bible Bob" can't stand that and not only denies the deity of Jesus
Christ as taught in the Bible but habitually engages in this attempt at
character assassination that no one is buying. It's a dead horse lie to
which "Bible Bob" desperately clings.]
"Now it may be that because you are ignorant of Satan's devices; you post
the false doctrines of your men gods thinking that you are doing God
service." [Actually I am familiar with what the Bible teaches concerning
Satan's devices, one of which are the false teachers like "Bible Bob"
Sowle
who attempt to deceive even the elect. Furthermore, the sermons, lessons
and
articles I do post are from Christians and are Biblically sound. Since
"Bible Bob" cannot refute them with his false teachings, he would rather
engage in the logical fallacy of ad hominem.]
"You [Carl] profit from getting web site hits but that is all the profit
you
[Carl] get from your posts." [ROFL! I don't get any profit from web site
hits. It's funny and hypocritical how "Bible Bob" attacks me for putting
the
URL of my blog and personal web site {neither of which contain any ads nor
garner any revenue - both are merely an enjoyable hobby} but has posted
the
URL for his website numerous times in his posts. The reason I post the
Christian sermons, lessons and articles is to help spread the Gospel as
instructed by God. But "Bible Bob" would rather silence me and post his
heresies, false teaching, extremely bad exegesis, very amateurish
Hebrew/Greek translations, etc. unabated and unchallenged. However he's
been
proven to be a heretic by many Christians on Usenet in the past and is not
fooling Christian now.]
"How often do you say "thou fool" to others, Carl?" [Answer: None. I have,
instead, shown from the Bible the people God calls fools and the
cir***stances and behaviors that God calls foolish. Again, "Bible Bob"
Sowle
makes a false accusation with no evidence. Typical for the heretic. Also,
if
one does a Usenet Google search, one will find that "Bible Bob" has, in
fact, called someone else a "fool." Ironic how "Bible Bob" posts the
following scripture:
Mat 5:22 KJV But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother
without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall
say
to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever
shall
say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
Claiming I've called people "fool" when I haven't but a Google search
shows
"Bible Bob" has. "Bible Bob" Sowle - proven hypocrite.]
"How often do you say that others are worthless, Carl?" [Answer: None. I
have, instead, shown from the Bible what God considers worthless. Again,
"Bible Bob" Sowle makes a false accusation with no evidence. Typical for
the
heretic. Also, if one does a Usenet Google search, one will find that
"Bible
Bob" has accused others on several occasions of being "worthless."]
"What is your hangup with Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses and people of
other
religious groups? If they are good enough for God; why aren't they good
enough for you?" [Answer: I have no "hangup." Instead, as God commands, I
have shown their false teachings, their false prophecies, etc. with
do***entation. Frankly I don't believe I've posted anything in a couple of
years at least concerning Mormonism. Furthermore, cults are never "good
enough for God" - God rejects false teachings and tells us to reject them
as
well. Keep in mind that "Bible Bob" considers the Watchtower Bible And
Tract
Society a Christian denomination but has called both the Methodist and
Baptist denominations cults. More "Bible Bob" deception. This gives
further
evidence that "Bible Bob" is intentionally attempting to deceive people.
All
the more to pray for "Bible Bob" Sowle in hopes he is delivered from his
evil and wicked ways.]
"You know, Carl, we don't get saved because we are good. We get saved
because we are bad. Good people don't need to be rescued; bad people do."
[Actually "Bible Bob" even gets salvation wrong. We cannot earn salvation
even though "Bible Bob" implies otherwise. Salvation is a gift of God by
His
grace through our faith in Jesus Christ. That's the way it's taught in the
Bible. We don't get saved "because we are bad" we get saved because of
GOD'S
GRACE.]
"Too many of those who say they are Christians argue that the Bible is the
scriptures (not true to fact)." [There you go, folks - "Bible Bob" Sowle
claims the Bible is not the scriptures. If "Bible Bob"'s claim that the
Bible is not the scriptures - God's scripture - doesn't convince you that
"Bible Bob" teaches falsely then nothing will.]
[March 10, 2008]
"Carl and Kelly are at odds with God because they are both idolaters."
[More
"Bible Bob" lies {tm}.]
"Carl wor****ps men" [Another "Bible Bob" lie {tm}.]
"Bob's a nice guy and the other two are ole meanies. Bob tries to love
people and Carl and Kelly manifest hatred for people." [Once again we see
"Bible Bob" Sowle calling evil good {e.g. - "Bible Bob" and good evil
{e.g. - myself}. This is the norm for heretics like "Bible Bob" Sowle.]
[March 8, 2008]
"More proof that you [Carl] are a brainwashed cultist who wor****ps men and
hates God and the Lord Jesus Christ. [More "Bible Bob" lies {tm}. A
heretic
like "Bible Bob" Sowle keeps calling good evil and evil good. He continues
to preach a different Jesus than the one of the Bible. "Bible Bob"'s Jesus
is not divine. Sowle denies the deity of Christ. He also preaches other
false, unbiblical teachings as shown by his own words. So he is incapable
of
responding honestly and with the fruit of the Spirit. As evidenced by his
own words, do***ented in this text file as well as Google Groups, his
fruit
is rotten and is not of God.]
"Once again you [Carl] get things backwards. Ity [sic] is your lying lips
that the Lord detests (same figure - Anthropatheia) and it is truthful men
like me in which He delights. [Again, as evidenced by "Bible Bob" Sowle's
own words as do***ented here and in Usenet Newsgroups, "Bible Bob" Sowle
is
a proven habitual liar who routinely calls good evil and evil good. God
abhors his lies but his arrogance and his wickedness is further evidenced
by
his claim that God delights in "Bible Bob"'s deception. Once again, "Bible
Bob" Sowle shows he is not of God and lacks the Holy Spirit in his heart.
By
their fruit you shall know them, and the fruit from "Bible Bob" is
regularly
rotten and is to be thrown away.]
[March 2, 2008]
"Once again you [Carl] are unable to sup****t the false doctrines you
[Carl]
promote from the scriptures." [Actually what I promote comes directly from
the scriptures such as the deity of Jesus Christ, the deity of the Holy
Spirit, salvation by faith in Jesus Christ by God's grace, all of which
are
Biblical doctrines that "Bible Bob", the heretic denies.]
"When challenged with truth, you [Carl] resort to deception and blame of
others just like Adam and Eve." [More "Bible Bob" Sowle's character
assassination attempts. Thus far, the only thing "Bible Bob" has
"challenged" me with are his heresies, his lies and his abuse. None of
which deserve response.]
"You [Carl] serve to [sic] masters; your men gods and your own belly that
lusts for recognition and wor****p." [More deception from "Bible Bob." I
only
serve the God of the Bible. Furthermore I lust for no recognition. That
seems to be "Bible Bob"'s forte. Nor have I ever desired to be wor****pped.
Again "Bible Bob" throws out these patently libelous accusations with no
basis in fact. Typical "Bible Bob" dishonesty {tm}. And predictably he
trots.er.drags out the dead horse false accusation that I wor****p men
which
has never been true.]
"You [Carl] use deception to lure people to your wor****p center so that
they
might wor****p you [Carl] and tickle your ego." [What I have actually
presented and is do***ented by Google Newsgroups are Biblically sound
sermons, lessons and articles from Christians. At no time have I used
deception nor have I demanded, ask for or implied people wor****p me.
Again,
"Bible Bob" Sowle desperately attempts character assassination for his
heresies and wicked nature has been exposed time and time again. He serves
not God, but only himself.]
"Despite what you [Carl] think I am not attacking you [Carl]; only the
wrong
behavior
that you [Carl] claim is right behavior." [Again here's "Bible Bob" Sowle
being dishonest and calling evil good and good evil as God warned us false
teachers like Bob would do. Let's see, do I think "Bible Bob" is attacking
me? Yes. For example, he's called me a "nazi", a "cultist", a wor****pper
of
men, and a whole host of other false accusations. This is what is called
"ad
hominem" which is an attack upon the person. So therefore, "Bible Bob" is
caught lying once again.]
"You are known by your fruit Carl and your fruit is not of love." [Quite
ironic that this false accusation is coming from a known, proven heretic
like "Bible Bob" whom God considers an abomination. But He warned us
Christians that there would be those like "Bible Bob" who exhibit rotten
fruit and come as a ravenous wolf. All one has to do is read the lies,
heresies and deceptions as do***ented in this text file to see the extent
of
"Bible Bob"'s evilness. And if the quotes I provide aren't believable,
then
do a Google search in the Newsgroups for "Bible Bob" and you'll see them
for
yourselves. However every Christian who has encountered "Bible Bob" Sowle
has quickly concluded from "Bible Bob"'s own words and actions that he is
indeed a heretic according to Biblical standards. God abhors a lying
tongue
and "Bible Bob" has one.]
"You Carl] and the men gods you [Carl] wor****p are of no authority;
powerless, cowardly, and very unloving." [Again "Bible Bob" false accuses
me
of wor****pping men which has never been true and no one believes "Bible
Bob"'s
accusation concerning it. However the people of whom I have quoted are of
authority unlike "Bible Bob" Sowle, the heretic. Christians will take the
people I have quoted {Charles Spurgeon, John Wesley, Walter Martin, John
Ankerberg, James White, Charles Wesley, D.L. Moody, Billy Graham, John
MacArthur, Jerry Falwell, David Jeremiah, James Dobson, Woodrow Kroll, Ron
Rhodes, J. Vernon McGee, R.C. Sproul, E.M. Bounds, Josh McDowell, Billy
Sunday, Norman Geisler, Oswald Chambers, John Piper, R.A. Torrey, J.C.
Ryle,
Jonathan Edwards, A.W. Pink, John Stedman, John Gill, George Whitefield,
John Calvin, and a plethora of other men of God} as authoritative rather
than "Bible Bob" Sowle, a proven, do***ented heretic and "Bible Bob" can't
stand it. Since he has been unable to refute those men of God, whom I
respect and admire, not wor****p, he chooses the wicked tact of attempting
to
lie about these men and other Christians who oppose "Bible Bob" Sowle.
Typical for the desperate heretic.]
"I come at you [Carl] head on with the word of God; not to prove myself
smarter than you, but to get you [Carl] to see the error of your ways so
that you might repent and become profitable to God." [Actually he only
claims to come at me "head on" but all he ends up doing is more lying,
libel
and false teachings which only prove "Bible Bob" to be a false teacher and
a
heretic. There is no error in exposing false teachers, their false
teachings
and warning others of those false teachers and heretics. That's a
scriptural
fact that "Bible Bob" avoids acknowledging. In warning others of "Bible
Bob"s
heresies, false teachings and lying, wicked ways, I am being profitable to
God.]
"You on the other hand use words of your men gods and silly false
assertions
and verses
quoted compeltely [sic] out of context and all sorts of other abominations
to accomplish your evil schemes. [More "Bible Bob" dishonesty {tm} that
has
been long refuted.]
"You aren't even man enough to speak directly to me." [Now "Bible Bob"
appeals to my manhood to attempt to lure me into disobedience to God's
Word.
To whit:
"Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After that,
have nothing to do with him. [Titus 3:10; NIV]
"Bible Bob" has been duly and properly warned by myself and countless
other
Christians over the years {see Google Newsgroups}. Since he refuses
Biblical
correction and continues his wicked ways, God demands I nor any Christian
have anything to do with him. That is why I no longer respond to his posts
nor his childish demands. But "Bible Bob" habitually tempts Christians
into
disobedience. What does God say about divisive heretics like "Bible Bob"?
"You may be sure that such a man is warped and sinful; he is
self-condemned." [Titus 3:11; NIV]
There you have it. God tells me that I may be sure that "Bible Bob" is
warped, sinful and self-condemned. So why should I waste my time and
energy
allowing myself to be lured in to Godless chatter by a warped, sinful and
self-condemned man like "Bible Bob" Sowle? There is no reason to allow for
that.]
"Not one like Jesus Christ who spoke boldy face to face with those who
spoke
against him." [Now "Bible Bob" misrepresents Jesus Christ who more often
than not regularly IGNORED those who spoke out against him. He FORGAVE
those
mocking him at His crucifixion. What did Jesus Christ say about false
teachers like "Bible Bob"?
15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing,
but
inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize
them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17
Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good
fruit.
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into
the
fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them." [Matt 7:15-20;
NIV]
10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and
hate
each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many
people.
[Matthew 24:10, 11; NIV]
Matt 24:24-25
24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great
signs
and miracles to deceive even the elect - if that were possible. 25 See, I
have told you ahead of time. [Matthew 24:24,25; NIV]
Jesus spoke out AGAINST those false teachers like "Bible Bob"! "Bible Bob"
Sowle, a heretic that denies Christ's deity, is known for misrepresenting
Jesus Christ in an attempt to deceive.]
"You [Carl] run like a coward because you [Carl] have no substance; not
[sic] knowledge and no experience in spiritual matters so that you cannot
engage in spiritual contents [sic]." [I haven't run from "Bible Bob." God
tells me in Titus 3:10 to have nothing to do with "Bible Bob" yet "Bible
Bob" cannot stand being ignored. He also cannot stand for those obedient
to
God when it doesn't go the way "Bible Bob" wants. I've already effectively
refuted much of "Bible Bob"'s false teachings {a Google Group search will
verify that} and have presented Biblically sound sermons, articles and
lessons that also refuted "Bible Bob"'s heresies. In response, "Bible Bob"
habitually lies about events of the past, presents more lies and regularly
engages in ad hominem. This is indicative of a darkened heart devoid of
the
Holy Spirit. It shows the fruit "Bible Bob" produces is rotten and an
abomination in God's eyes.]
"Your Pharisee behavior is noted and proven many times." [Actually this is
another "Bible Bob" lie {tm} since I have not engaged in Pharasitical
behavior at any time.]
"Your antichrist behavior has been noted and proven many times." [Actually
this is another "Bible Bob" lie {tm} since I have not engaged in
antichrist
behavior at any time. On the other hand, since "Bible Bob" denies the
deity
of Christ and presents a false christ, it is actually "Bible Bob" who has
been proven to engage in antichrist behaviors.]
"You have run from every challenge." [This false accusation is quite
laughable since this very text file is in response to a challenge a long
time ago from "Bible Bob" where he challenged me to show "just one" of his
lies. Well, I've do***ented several hundred thus far. Furthermore, I have
effectively refuted many of his heresies with scripture and the Bible in
totality. I have proven that his claim of being an expert in Biblical
language to be a sham after submitting several of his posts concerning
Koine
Greek interpretations to several legitimate experts in Biblical languages
and the experts that were kind enough to respond all agree that "Bible
Bob"s
knowledge of Koine Greek is greatly flawed and furthermore, "Bible Bob" is
unreliable, unknowledgeable and dishonest in his personal interpretations.
But "Bible Bob" considers his interpretations to be "superior." I, and
numerous other Christians have warned him of his evil and wicked ways in a
loving, Christian manner as God warrants, yet he still teaches falsely,
makes libelous statements and habitually attempts to deceive. Therefore,
God
tells us to have nothing to do with "Bible Bob" Sowle which includes
responding to his desperate and insipid "challenges." I've "run from every
challenge"? Hardly. I've answered many of his early challenges to me and
when it became apparent that he would rather willfully continue in his
antichrist words and deeds, I've taken God's instruction to heart and no
longer have anything to do with "Bible Bob" Sowle. "Bible Bob"'s
challenges
now are all challenges to commit sin and I refuse to do so.]
"Make everybody happy and answer Jerry's one simple question. Where does
it
say in the word of God that one must believe in the trinity to be saved.
That is what started this whole mess of posts. It was you, Carl, that
started the whole mess by asserting without proof that one must believe in
a
trinity to be saved." [It is not my job nor does God command me to "make
everybody happy." Furthermore, "Jerry" {a.k.a. - rogue} make the bogus
claim
that he SAW me make a statement I never made. I have stated as such
directly
to him and asked him to produce this quote he claims to have seen. He is
unable to do so because I never made any such claim. So it is no wonder
that
"Bible Bob" would perpetuate a statement that neither Jerry nor "Bible
Bob"
can produce. Just another "Bible Bob" lie {tm}.]
"Why do you [Carl] promote so much hatred between believers; the children
of
God?" [This shows "Bible Bob"'s dishonesty quite well. This question is
along the lines of "How long have you stopped beating your wife?" It is a
question based upon a false premise and worded in a way so that any answer
can be twisted negatively. It is just another false accusation by "Bible
Bob" Sowle since I don't promote hatred between believers. But such false
accusations are commonplace from heretics like "Bible Bob".]
"Why are so you [Carl] against the people who belong to other cults?"
["other cults"? Lovely. Once again, "Bible Bob" implies that I am a
cultist
since I am a member of the Methodist denomination. Here's an earlier quote
from "Bible Bob" showing this:
Bible Bob: "Why is it that members of the Baptist cult and the Methodist
cult attack the Jewhovah's [sic] Witness cult?"
Just further shows "Bible Bob" Sowle's wickedness and hardened heart.
However the point is, I am against the false teachings held by various
cults
as God demands.]
"Why are you [Carl] so against atheists, skeptics, and agnostics? Christ
wasn't against any; they were against Him (ever heard of antichrist?)."
[Let's
look at what Jesus Christ said about false teachings and false teachers:
15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing,
but
inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize
them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17
Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good
fruit.
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into
the
fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them." [Matt 7:15-20;
NIV]
10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and
hate
each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many
people.
[Matthew 24:10, 11; NIV]
Matt 24:24-25
24 For false Christs and false prophets will appear and perform great
signs
and miracles to deceive even the elect - if that were possible. 25 See, I
have told you ahead of time. [Matthew 24:24,25; NIV]
From Jesus Christ's own words shows that He was indeed against false
teachers and those who turn away from the faith. This includes atheists,
agnostics, skeptics, cults and cultists, and also heretics like "Bible
Bob"
Sowle. Also in the Bible, God instructs the following concerning heretics:
10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn him a second time. After
that,
have nothing to do with him. 11 You may be sure that such a man is warped
and sinful; he is self-condemned. [Titus 3:10,11; NIV]
"Bible Bob" has indeed been warned properly and has been shown to be quite
the divisive heretic. Therefore no Christian should have anything to do
with
him and not respond to his lies and heresies.]
"To use your [Carl] form of religious logic; how do you [Carl] know that
Pastor Dave is not being "used by God" to confuse people so that they will
fall from grace, repent, and get back on the right path. The real God
don't
do that; but one of yours [Carl] might." [I don't know how "Bible Bob" can
draw such an analogy re "religious logic" for I have only shown scriptural
truth not "religious logic." More "Bible Bob" dishonesty. And once again,
"Bible Bob" attempts to accuse me of wor****pping false gods which I do not
do nor ever have done. "Bible Bob"'s desperation takes the form of
character
assassination in this instance. Quite common for "Bible Bob" to commit ad
hominem. BTW, the "Pastor Dave" of which "Bible Bob" refers is Dave
Raymond,
a self-proclaimed "Pastor" who by his own words, deeds and false teachings
has shown conclusively that he is a fraud. It's not surprising that evil
sides with evil.]
"Why do you [Carl] preach so much hate?" [I haven't nor can "Bible Bob"
provide do***entable, specific examples. Instead he levels baseless
libel.]
"Why not speak the truth in love like I do towards you [Carl]?" [Seeing
how
I have do***ented hundreds of lies, misrepresentations, false accusations,
etc. against me and others from "Bible Bob" Sowle, it becomes patently
obvious that this is another "Bible Bob" lie {tm}. God warns dishonest
people like "Bible Bob" Sowle:
"Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light
and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.
[Isaiah 5:20; NIV]
As shown by "Bible Bob"'s own words, he attempts to confuse by calling
evil
good and good evil. Fortuntely Christians on Usenet who have read his
posts
know "Bible Bob" Sowle is an evil and wicked deceiver who serves a master
that is not Jehovah God.]
"I can understand how easily you [Carl] are hoodwinked by the false
teachers and false prophets you wor****p and quote so that you can spam the
newsgroups for your advertisements about your web site." [According to
past
posts by "Bible Bob" the only true teacher in existence today is "Bible
Bob"
Sowle. Secondly he falsely accuses me of wor****pping men when I have never
done so. More "Bible Bob" lies {tm}. Furthermore, this claim of
"advertisements about [my] website" {actually my blog and my personal
website} are just the URL's for them that I include with my signature. Not
advertisements nor spam. This is a hypocritical accusation since what does
"Bible Bob" Sowle include with his signature? The URL for HIS website.
"Bible Bob" is not only a proven heretic, false teacher and habitual liar
but a major hypocrite as well. Double standards are commonplace with
"Bible
Bob" Sowle.]
{cont'd in Part 2}
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