On 25 Jul 2008 04:41:02 -0500, bob young <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
>Aaron wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:19:03 -0700, DanielSan
>> <danielsan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> >Pastor Frank wrote:
>> >> "Christopher A. Lee" <calee@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> >> news:udr98418miql4b956a2nsr0f4j7pmo32n2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>> On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 12:31:09 -0700 (PDT), SkyEyes
<skyeyes9@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Proselytizing is expressly forbidden by the alt.atheism charter.
>> >>>> Please keep your **** in your own newsgroups; you're not going to
find
>> >>>> any converts here.
>> >>>
>> >>> These drooling imbeciles know their religion is unpopular.
>> >>> Do they seriously imagine rudely wiping it in people's faces,
>> >>> presuming its bull**** is as real to their involuntary audience as
it
>> >>> is to them, is going to make it less unpopular?
>> >>> They're ****ing morons.
>> >>>
>> >> Another atheist screeching in dismay at people exercising their
free
>> >> choice? In the atheist religion
Where the hell did the serial liar get this from?
>> >BZZT! There's no atheist religion. But you knew that.
>>
>> Technically Atheism is a religion with no cultic (rituals of wor****p)
>> activity.
>
>Pure unadulterated CRAP
>
> A religion is a theological belief system. Atheism is very
>> streamlined, but it has one specific belief.
>
>See above - it is the rejection of all gods
You're falling for the theists' use of language:
This presumes that gods are what they think theirs is, and that we
reject it.
So they imagine it means rejecting something real.
Which we're not doing.
In the real world outside their religion they are part of their
religious belief, rituals, legends etc.
As they certainly exist, but they are no more than that except in the
minds of their believers.
That's all.
We should be more careful how we use language when it gets filtered
through their perspective.
Otherwise in their minds it confirms their misunderstanding.
> The word "cult" is
>> usually misused to mean somone else's religion or a supposedly harmful
>> religion
>
>ALL religions are harmful in some way or other.
>They all lie to their young and that is good enough for starters.
They turn off critical thinking and encourage group hysteria.
>
>( but those are the same things in the opinions of the people
>> using the word), Its former usage is: a ritual action based religion
>> (no salvation by belief and usually no fixed code of conduct other
>> than making sacrifices or some other wor****p activity. Based on the
>> older definition of "cult," it would be accurate to say that Atheism
>> is not a cult, however it is still a religion.
>
>CRAP see above
Why do so many idiots imagine that the absence of a particular belief,
is a belief in itself?
And then rudely and stupidly tell us what we do or don't believe
instead of having the common sense and courtesy to accept what we say
our POV actually is?
They're not mind readers.
>> >> only one choice is allowed,
>> >
>> >BZZT! That's not true.
>>
>> Frank was trying to say that the doctrine of the nonexistance of God
>> is an absolute belief and must be chosen for somone to be Atheist.
And he knew he was lying.
>
>ROFL atheist do not chose it, they use their common sense
>and logic
>and come to the right conclusion. We do not wear blinders [blinkers]
Only those who are ex-theists.
The only common factor is that we aren't theist.
For whatever reason.
In countries where theism is declining many parents simply don't teach
their kids to be theist.
Like mine. In fact on one side this goes back several generations.
When there is no reason to believe something then the default is that
one doesn't.
But you try getting any theist to understand this when it comes to
their gods.
>> Of course that is not the insult that he seems to think since all
>> religions have absolute doctrines about the exustance of their god or
>> gods or the nonexistance of any Gods (Budhhism and Atheism, maybe
>> other Atheistic religions).
>>
>> Frank fails to mention that he has denounced the existance of the God
>> described in the Bible in favor of a feeling of love being a god that
>> can be created by human beings. That's right: Frank is a closet
>> Atheist.
He is a certifiable psychopathic lunatic.
>> >
>> >> all others
>> >> being subject to strict censor****p and/or vilification.
>> >
>> >Oh noes! I'm being villified!
>>
>> Frank villifies everyone except for Himself and Muslims who murder
>> Jews. So, you are NOT Frank and have admitting to not being Muslim.
>>
>> >People are calling me on things I say!
>>
>> Actually Frank was calling you on things that HE says.
>> LOL
That's his modus operandi.
You say something, the psychopath twists it out of all recognition and
accuses you of saying his version.
One of his favourite dishonesties is to turn "put up or shut up" into
censor****p.
When he knows perfectly well it is about backing up his presumptions
that he knows aren't mutually granted - which is the basis for dialog.
Without that he is the street-corner loonie screaming his monolog at
passers by.
>> >That must mean that I'm being censored!
>>
>> No just that Frank is raging against his impotence to censor you.
>> BTW: Frank was never a pastor, has been kicked out of the church that
>> he attended because of racism and Atheism, and has been dropped from
>> more than one ISP/News Group Server for his antisocial posts. He has
>> been censored in his community and on the internet.
>>
>> >
>> >C'mon, Frank. You have the perfect right to spew your imbecility to
>> >wherever you want. You do NOT have the right, however, to spew your
>> >imbecility to wherever you want without consequences.
>> >
>> >> No wonder
>> >> peoples leave atheism in droves.
>> >
>> >Cite?
In his mind.
These morons have no idea what an atheist is,how they think etc. And
it would be like suddenly believing in leprechauns.
There's also a lifetime's understanding of the real world to un-learn.
>> As many cases that we hear of Atheists becoming Theists, the
>> percentage of the population that is Atheist is not shrinking, so
>> whatever numbers are leaving Atheism must also be leaving various
>> Theistic religions.
They don't. Apart from having to convert to marry, etc. And these are
usually because of the spouse's family. The spouse is already doing
something against the religion in marrying an outsider.
Would you, as an adult, start believing in Santa Claus again?
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