Re: How do you decide what to do morally?

Thom Madura wrote:

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is the Creator created?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If everything that exists needs to be created, then a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> creator needs to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be created.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you say "circular?"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is reason created?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still searching for something "created," aren't you.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No reason evolved just like everything else.  You can see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dogs do it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Certain things are created through evolution.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Others are created suddenly in toto.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What gives you that idea?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Simply because there are many ways to look at things.
>>>>>>>>>>> Well it is true that there are many ways of looking at things,
>>>>>>>>>>> but some are
>>>>>>>>>>> not to be trusted.  The least trustworthy are the mumblings of
>>>>>>>>>>> religious
>>>>>>>>>>> nutcakes.
>>>>>>>>>> How about jingoistic fanatics?
>>>>>>>>>> It's definitely possible that
>>>>>>>>>> what they believe as their country does not even exist.
>>>>>>>>>> At least not as imagined by the fanatics.
>>>>>>>>>> Does that mean they live a country that does not exist?
>>>>>>>>> Don't make me bring the pony out again.  Tell us what the hell
you
>>>>>>>>> are trying to do and do it in a straight forward manor.
>>>>>>>> Is God more like a nation than money?
>>>>>>> Is my car more like beer than struggle?
>>>>>> Is your love for your children
>>>>>> more like a daydream than a promise?
>>>>> Wow, that is really deep. . .. .
>>>>
>>>> Is God more like the rule of law than an ethical system?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Neither.
>>>
>>> The god of the bible is clearly unethical - was a mass murderer who
also
>>> committed genocide - allowed human sacrifice - and was a two faced
>>> hypocrite who regularly contradicted himself.
>>>
>>> He is also clearly not like a rule of law. Law should apply to all -
but
>>> your god regularly breaks his own laws in the bible - including one
law
>>> against murder - more proof  of a two faced hypocrite.
>>>
>>> Thankfully - gods don't really exist - we don't need people like him
in
>>> charge ever!
>> 
>> 
>> You seem to have some ideas
>> what God should be like.
> 
> No - my statement referred to the gods in your bible
> 
> Your bible also outlines what your religion would LIKE your gods to be -
>   and so does other religious do***ents like the Baltimore Catechism.
> However - clearly - the gods in the bible do not fill that description
> 
>> 
>> What makes you think your ideas
>> are not created by God?
> 
> 
> Gods do not exist - Theists have eliminated every god and every religion
> as being false.


Do you worry about the existence of the rule of law in USA?


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monkfish 
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