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>> >> >> >> >> >> DUMASSO
>> >> >> >> >> > There are seven millennial "days" from the fall to
>> >> >> >> >> >> the judgment. "Day" one is the day Adam fell and died
(Gen
>> >> >> >> >> >> 2:17).
>> >> >> >> >> >> The
>> >> >> >> >> >> day
>> >> >> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> >> >> the Lord, is the seventh "day," and what began at His
>> >> >> >> >> >> first
>> >> >> >> >> >> coming
>> >> >> >> >> >> was
>> >> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> >> last "days" (Is 2:2, Hos 6:2, Acts 2:17, Heb 1:2).
>>
>> >> >> >> >> > JERRY
>> >> >> >> >> > Ok, let's look at that.
>> >> >> >> >> > Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and
evil,
>> >> >> >> >> > thou
>> >> >> >> >> > shalt
>> >> >> >> >> > not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof
thou
>> >> >> >> >> > shalt
>> >> >> >> >> > surely die.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> > A verse from an allegorical story about how good and evil
>> >> >> >> >> > came
>> >> >> >> >> > into
>> >> >> >> >> > the world, not unlike Pandora's box. Interesting story,
no
>> >> >> >> >> > truth
>> >> >> >> >> > to
>> >> >> >> >> > it and a verse that just tells the authority figure
telling
>> >> >> >> >> > his
>> >> >> >> >> > creation that he doesn't want them to eat from the tree
and
>> >> >> >> >> > know
>> >> >> >> >> > what
>> >> >> >> >> > is right from wrong.
>>
>> >> >> >> >> ROTFL!!!!!!!
>>
>> >> >> >> >> Your 3rd grade reading level again? "Allegorical" means
you
>> >> >> >> >> don't
>> >> >> >> >> have
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> slightest idea of what the Author is saying, so you have to
>> >> >> >> >> cobble
>> >> >> >> >> up
>> >> >> >> >> your
>> >> >> >> >> own explanation.
>>
>> >> >> >> > JERRY
>> >> >> >> > Nooooo. Invest in a dictionary, dumasso. Allegorical, as
in
>> >> >> >> > "allegory," means a made up fable with the intent of making
a
>> >> >> >> > lesson.
>> >> >> >> > Cause, that's all the creation story of Genesis really is.
>> >> >> >> > (Quick:
>> >> >> >> > outside of a Harry Potter movie, when did you ever see a
>> >> >> >> > talking
>> >> >> >> > s****?) Perhaps if you invest in an education as well, you
>> >> >> >> > might
>> >> >> >> > see
>> >> >> >> > the point that is currently floating above your pinhead.
>>
>> >> >> >> I've got a dictionary, Dumasso. And your alleged allegorical
>> >> >> >> interpretation
>> >> >> >> which ignores what is plainly said, conjures up a fable, and
>> >> >> >> renders
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> into
>> >> >> >> babble, is what I addressed, not the word "allegory." Your
>> >> >> >> reading
>> >> >> >> inability shows, Dumasso.
>>
>> >> >> >> In addition to your worldly in ability, you are spiritually
>> >> >> >> disabled:
>> >> >> >> 1
>> >> >> >> Cor.
>> >> >> >> 2:14
>> >> >> >> But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit
>> >> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> God:
>> >> >> >> for
>> >> >> >> they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them,
because
>> >> >> >> they
>> >> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> spiritually discerned.
>>
>> >> >> >> Even if you advanced from your 3rd grade reading level to a
4th
>> >> >> >> grade
>> >> >> >> level,
>> >> >> >> you still could see what is in scripture.
>>
>> >> >> >> <snip>
>> >> >> > JERRY
>> >> >> > I can see that you can throw insults but so far you're pretty
>> >> >> > weak
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > making an argument, Fred-O. Whatsamatter? Brain stuck in
stall?
>>
>> >> >> I'm sorry you are insulted, but it is a fact that you are reading
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> 3rd
>> >> >> grade level (its not that uncommon), attending only to the words
>> >> >> one
>> >> >> sentence at a time. It is in the 4th grade that attending to the
>> >> >> whole
>> >> >> writing and what the author is saying with the words. You've been
>> >> >> shown
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> you still do not see.
>>
>> >> > JERRY
>> >> > Yeah, Fred-O, you can't tell the third grade level from the 5th
>> >> > grade
>> >> > level, you are just making your insults as you go along.
>>
>> >> Duh....I showed you what can be found in the book when you look at
the
>> >> Author's concepts and look for references to them throughout the
>> >> Author's
>> >> works. Instead of seeing the limitations of your reading, which is
3rd
>> >> grade
>> >> level reading, a fact, not name-calling and increasing your reading
>> >> ability,
>> >> you
>> >> refuse because you don't want to see it. It is rational that there
is
>> >> a
>> >> first millennial "day" (Gen 2:17), but it is there. It isn't a
matter
>> >> of
>> >> rationalizing it into the text. It is in the text. It is a matter of
>> >> finding
>> >> it.
>>
>> > JERRY
>> > And I showed multiple verses, in context, to sup****t my argument.
>> > Meanwhile you started pulling verses out of your ass to rationalize
>> > all kinds of claims that you refuse to back up.
>>
>> Your multiple verses were not contextually consistent, the context
being
>> the
>> whole of scripture.
>
> JERRY
> In other words, what you have deduced the book is about, though it's
> not agreed to by any other biblical scholars.
>
>>FRED-O
>> And the verses I cited were taken from scripture, not
>> pulled out of my ass.
>
> JERRY
> Taken from different books about different subjects and used to twist
> into a viewpoint that is not specified in the text.
>
>> FRED-O
>> Again, you exemplify your practice of reading at the
>> 3rd grade reading level attending merely to the words in front of you
and
>> what they say instead of all the words from beginning to end and what
the
>> Author is saying with the words.
>
> JERRY
> Fred, we aren't dealing with a book intended for the New York Times
> Bestseller list crowd here. We are dealing with an audience of very
> simple, literal people. That's the reason Jesus said he spoke in
> parables so that others wouldn't understand. (Mark 4:9-12) Given
> that Jesus believed that his simple fables would fly over his
> audience's head, why would you assume that what you are choosing to
> read into the text is really what is meant?
Another example of what else you missed. It was the blinded who would not
understand: "the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of
God:
for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they
are spiritually discerned" (1 Cor. 2:14).
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shall not receive the kingdom of God
as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
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