Pastor Frank wrote:
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> > "bob young" <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> Pastor Frank wrote:
> >>> "bob young" <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>> > Pastor Frank wrote:
> >>> >> "bob young" <alaspectrum@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >>> >> news:4832387E.FF051DEF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> >> > Thom Madura wrote:
> >>> >> >> Pastor Frank wrote:
> >>> >> >> >
> >>> >> >> > Those rescue workers represent our God, in that they do
good
> >>> >> >> > works.
> >>> >> >> > You still labour under the illusion, that the word "god"
means
> >>> >> >> > some
> >>> >> >> > invisible ogre in the sky, behind them thar clouds, much
like
> >>> >> >> > your
> >>> >> >> > grand-pappy believed. Talk about "primitive" Bob, you take
the
> >>> >> >> > prize.
> >>> >> >>
> >>> >> >> I am sorry but you are misled.
> >>> >> >> People are capable of doing good works even when they don't
> >>> >> >> believe in
> >>> >> >> a
> >>> >> >> god. People did good things before religion invented their
gods -
> >>> >> >> the
> >>> >> >> greeks did good works - even though you do not believe their
> >>> >> >> mythology.
> >>> >> >> The romans did good works - even before they recognized
> >>> >> >> Catholicism.
> >>> >> >> The only US president that never belonged to a religion in his
> >>> >> >> lifetime
> >>> >> >> freed the slaves =- and was considered a very moral man -
Lincoln.
> >>> >> >> The reason for doing good is that it is the right thing to do
-
> >>> >> >> and it
> >>> >> >> should not be because of fear of eternal punishment. We do not
> >>> >> >> need
> >>> >> >> religion to determine what the right thing to do is. Nor the
wrong
> >>> >> >> thing
> >>> >> >> - although they are a good example for that.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Frank's religion is 'power'. 'Power for Frank' and he's not
> >>> >> > alone by any stretch of the imagination !
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> Who would determines what is the right thing to do? The right
> >>> >> thing to
> >>> >> do for some is to kill people, for others the right thing is to
is to
> >>> >> save
> >>> >> people from being killed. With Jesus the right thing to do, is
to
> >>> >> never harm anyone.
> >>> >
> >>> > Yes and the Inquisition again springs to mind
> >>> >
> >>> That remark is about as "primitive" and simple-minded as you can
> >>> get.
> >>> Show where Christ commands anything like an "inquisition". Even to
the
> >>> most
> >>> simple-minded it's obvious that those who called themselves
Christians,
> >>> yet
> >>> did the opposite from what Christ commanded, were not Christians at
all,
> >>> but
> >>> evil liars, impostors and criminals, yet you believe them. See below
the
> >>> commandments of Christ.
> >>
> >> Look it up. All of Europe, France, Spain, Italy, Germany.
> >> It was a mental disease born of fear,
> >> the place your love comes from.
> >>>
> >>> Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye
love
> >>> one
> >>> another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.
> >>> Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my
> >>> disciples, if ye have love one to another.
> >>> Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye love one
> >>> another,
> >>> as I have loved you. Greater love hath no man than this, that a man
lay
> >>> down his life for his friends.
> >
> > No evidence is sufficient for fundamentalists, and no evidence is
> > sufficient for fundamentalists.
> >
> A master at iteration. How droll!!!
Aye but lookie around here and note just how true it is.
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