Re: theology for atheists

monkfish wrote:
> Thom Madura wrote:
> 
>> monkfish wrote:
>>> Thom Madura wrote:
>>>
>>>> Adions wrote:
>>>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>>>>> bob young wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have yet to see you discuss theology in an intelligent way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Posting silly obtuse questions is not a discussion.
>>>>>> [theology]
>>>>>> My working hypothesis is that
>>>>>> God is the ultimate point of reference.
>>>>>> That means God is even prior to proofs of all kinds.
>>>>>> So, at best, we can hope that God somehow makes sense to us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> God understood in the traditional Christian way
>>>>>> makes sense to over a billion of people.
>>>>>> But I want God to make sense even to atheists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is my position that
>>>>>> we need God to make sense of anything.
>>>>>> How do you make sense of anything?
>>>>>> [/theology]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Discussing theology is one thing, to try to use endless questions to
>>>>> create an endless paradox is something else.
>>>>> It would seem by your statements, that you do not partake of the
>>>>> typical flavor that the usual believer makes god out to be. It also
>>>>> appears that you discount if not reject the bible.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Noting that with the exception of a few apostolic letters - which can
be
>>>> dated but not authenticated as to author - the bible is an
unsup****ted
>>>> piece of recognized fiction (Called Parables ) - fictional stories
that
>>>> have a moral argument to make. As the years pass - more and more of
the
>>>> bible is proven to fall into that category.
>>>>
>>>> So - rejecting the bible as the inspired word of god is pretty much a
>>>> no-brainer.
>>>
>>> Most love letters written to someone else are uninteresting.
>>> But the worst love poem addressed to you will make your heart flutter.
>>> You have to fall in love with God, to understand Him.
>>>
>>>
>> But we have already said it is not possible to fall in love with
>> soemthing that does not exist - or exists on another dimension and is
>> incomprehensible to humans.
> 
> 
> You are lying to yourself.
> I'm sure you do have some idealistic dreams.
> Or at least have had.

No - falling in love and otherwise conversing with things that do not 
exist are a sign of mental illness. I may have had dreams - but I can 
recognize the difference between imaginary and real.


> 
> The Kingdom of God is near at hand.


Really - where?


> But it has to be you who brings it in.



If you are depending on me to do it - you may as well give it up now.
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