On May 18, 9:42 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredstov...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "rogue" <rogue...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On May 17, 11:38 pm, "Fred A Stover" <fredstov...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > "rogue" <rogue...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> You're hanging in the wrong place. The fulness of the gentiles has
> > >> already enterred and you couldn't come into the church if you
wanted.
> > >> You need to
> > >> hang in a Jewish group where you could still be saved.
>
> > >> There are two comings, and both were future when He spoke.
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> > > JERRY
> > > In a thread where the original poster said that the Second Coming
was
> > > still to come, my position is valid. If you want to argue that the
> > > coming spoken of in Matthew chapter 24 isn't the end of the world
and
> > > hasn't come yet, then by all means make your case. The text of the
> > > bible says that it was supposed to happen during the lifetimes of
the
> > > disciples.
>
> > Duh...
>
> > The point was made. The point was that there wer two comings and both
were
> > future when He spoke of some seeing Him come. Some of them saw His
first
> > coming. What is obvious is that you cannot read, and rely upon the
satanic
> > twits to tell you what scripture says.
>
> > And when He said this generation will not pass until the end, He said
the
> > genea, the nation generated by Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will not
pass.
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> JERRY
> Actually, the timing of reading this post was perfect. I just
> responded to Linda in the Adam Clarke thread, so
> copying and pasting that answer to you is easy.
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> > > Mat 24:33-34 - So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these
> > > things, know that it is near, even at the doors. This
> > > generation shall not pass - houtos genea, this race; -
> > > i.e. the Jews shall not cease from being a distinct people,
> > > till all the counsels of God relative to them and the
> > > Gentiles be fulfilled. Some translate houtos genea as
> > > this generation, meaning the persons who were then living,
> > > that they should not die before these signs, etc., took
> > > place: ...this was true, as to the calamities that fell upon
> > > the Jews, and the destruction of their government, temple,
> > > etc...
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> ^^ JERRY
> ^^ It's an interesting rationalization, Linda, and one I've seen before.
> ^^ So, why haven't the translators translated
> ^^ this verse as "race" rather than "generation?"
>
> ?????????? DUH.......They mean the same thing Dumasso. Generation is
what is
> generated, and race is the people generated.
>
> --
JERRY
No, dumbass, a "generation" is the group of people you grew up with.
Your peers.
You are living proof of what I have been saying for the past 2 years.
The quality of intelligence of theists has declined appreciably in the
past two years. I used to be able to have some really good debates
and discussions on the bible in Usenet. Now I get people like you. ;-)
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