On May 17, 8:46 am, monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> rogue wrote:
> > On May 16, 5:17 pm, monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> rogue wrote:
> >> > On May 15, 11:58 pm, monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >> rogue wrote:
> >> >> > On May 14, 10:12 pm, monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >> >> rogue wrote:
> >> >> >> > On May 10, 12:32 pm, "Carl" <sai...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> The title of P.G. Mathew's sermon makes the topic quite
clear
> >> >> >> >> concerning Jesus' second coming sometime in the future and
how
> >> >> >> >> glorious it shall be.
>
> >> >> >> > JERRY
> >> >> >> > Unfortunately, Carl, the text of the bible, and particularly
> >> >> >> > Jesus himself, was quite clear that this event was supposed
to
> >> >> >> > happen during
> >> >> >> > the lifetimes of the disciples. I point you especially to
> >> >> >> > Matthew chapter 24.
>
> >> >> >> How do you know that the event didn't happen to anyone?
>
> >> >> > JERRY
> >> >> > Check it out.
>
> >> >> > Matt 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples
> >> >> > came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these
things
> >> >> > be? AND WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN OF THY COMING, AND OF THE END OF
THE
> >> >> > WORLD?
>
> >> >> > Jesus tells them of all the signs to come and then tells them:
>
> >> >> > Matt 24:34 Verily I say unto you, THIS GENERATION SHALL NOT
PASS,
> >> >> > TILL ALL THESE THINGS BE FULFILLED.
>
> >> >> > So, Jesus is asked when he is coming back AND THE END OF THE
WORLD.
> >> >> > He tells them it will happen before the current generation has
> >> >> > passed, in other words, before the disciples have all died.
>
> >> >> > Now, look around and look V-e-e-r-r-y-y closely.
>
> >> >> > Did the world end?
>
> >> >> > Check out Matthew chapter 16.
>
> >> >> > 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father
with
> >> >> > his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his
> >> >> > works. 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here,
> >> >> > which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man
coming
> >> >> > in his kingdom.
>
> >> >> > Verse 27 tells that Jesus will return and come in the Glory of
his
> >> >> > Father WITH HIS ANGELS and then he shall REWARD EVERY MAN
ACCORDING
> >> >> > TO
> >> >> > HIS WORKS. (sounds like Judgment Day to me)
> >> >> > Verse 28 tells us "there be some standing here, WHICH SHALL NOT
> >> >> > TASTE OF DEATH, TILL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING IN HIS
KINGDOM.
>
> >> >> > Those are just some of the verses. The failed parousia is one
of
> >> >> > the best do***ented failings of the bible to be true.
>
> >> >> > Did that happen to anyone? Was EVERY MAN rewarded according to
his
> >> >> > works? It was predicted duirng the lifetimes of the disciples.
>
> >> >> If you learn to be gratful for everything,
> >> >> the world would not be evil anymore.
>
> >> >> If you find the Kingdom of God in you,
> >> >> that would be the End of the World as we know it.
>
> >> >> Hard to believe, isn't it?
>
> >> > JERRY
> >> > What's hard to believe is that you are trying to pass off that
lame-
> >> > ass statement as a rebuttal. Are you saying that there will be no
> >> > Second Coming, no Judgment Day, that the book of Revelation is just
> >> > clown-ravings of some superstitious moron? If you are, I won't
> >> > disagree with you. If, on the other hand, you agree that
Christians
> >> > are waiting for the return of Jesus for the comeuppance of the
sinners
> >> > and the "Return of the King," then I point you to the verses I
show,
> >> > that indicate he was supposed to return nearly 2000 years ago.
>
> >> God works in mysterious ways.
> >> For some, Jesus Christ has come again alreay.
>
> > There is that famed theist reading comprehension problem again.
> > Please go back and re-read Matthew 24-3 and tell me what you missed.
>
> >> The Kingdom of God is within you.
> >> For others He is coming again
> >> and again here and now.
>
> > Sounds messy. He should use a Kleenex.
>
> >> He will also come very soon.
>
> > Or a plastic cup.
>
> >> God is prior to time and space.
> >> Nothing is impossible with God.
>
> > Then why couldn't he have his agent, King Nebs, take the island city
> > of Tyre as he had his prophet foretell in Ezekiel chapter 26?
>
> >> God might exist in five or more dimensions.
>
> > Or only in your mind.
>
> >> Do you love your enemies yet?
>
> > I have no enemies. That's for the theists who want to see their
> > enemies/detractors burn in hell.
>
> > And, as I hate dealing with your headers, I won't be responding to any
> > more of your posts. You are more trouble than you are worth.
>
> You really should pick the main newsgroup
> and set the followup-to header to it.
>
> --
> monkfish
> * Kindly note that the followup-to header is
> set to alt.christnet.theology.
JERRY
Not acceptable. I read one newsgroup but the person to whom I'm
responding my be posting from a different newsgroup. Doing what you
are doing makes it difficult for me to ensure that my posts are read
by the people I want them read.
Therefore, this is my last post to you until you change your headers.
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