Re: Atheists have blind faith in their ability

EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

> In alt.religion.christian monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
>> > You have some kind of weird fixation with the word "exist".
> 
> 
>> Not me.
>> It's atheists who have problem with the existence of God.
> 
> There you go.  You mix up concepts, melding them together.  The "word
> 'exist'" and "the existence of God" are two distinct concepts.
> 
> I point out your fixation with one, and you respond with the other.
> 
> Would it satisfy you if every atheist admitted that God Exists (as a
> figment of the imagination of believers)?
> 
> You repeatedly ask questions using the word "exist" in ways distinct
from
> the maner in which Believers use it. And then you try to shoehorn the
> answers into an acceptance that your deity "exists".
> 
> But because the word is used in distinct ways, you prove nothing.
> 
> Hey - Unicorns Exist.  They exist in teh imagination.  They exit in
> legend.  They exist in childrens' stories.  Unicorns exist.  But that
says
> nothing about the physical world of animals.
> 
> Why do you try to get nonbelievers to say God Exists in this manner? 
Yes,
> Virginia, there is a God.  He exists in the minds of all who believe.
Just
> like Tinker Bell.  Just like the Tooth Fairy.  And jsut like Santa
Clause.
> 
> You prove nothing to nobody by playing with words.


You misunderstood me.
I have no interest in proving the existence of God.
God is prior to existence.
You need God to comprehend existence.

As for the existence God as expected by most people,
I would say the following.

I think God is mostly misunderstood.
What we see is not God, 
but fuzzy pictures of something
alleged by people to be God.

Let's put it this way.
We don't know God's true mode of existence.
I would rather say that God is prior to existence
but as most people here insist that
God has to exist to be believed,
I am willing to say that God can appear to us
and in that case God exists for us.
But God reveals Himself to us
in whatever way He pleases.

God can appear as a dove.
As love, as a spirit, and even as a whisper.
Are you going to say now that
God has to exist in the mode prescribed by you?


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monkfish 
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