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> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:04:37 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
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>> "monkfish" <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:59:54 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
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>>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:47:04 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:25:48 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:45:10 -0400, default wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:03:53 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
>>>>>>>>>> <PF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>y church tithes 15% of their income to missionaries, plus have
>>>>>>>>>>>many other benevolent projects going.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A Whopping 15%? Of their "income?" OK so you contribute 15%
to
>>>>>>>>>> the church and in turn the church contributes 15% of your 15%
to
>>>>>>>>>> missionaries (whose purpose is to make converts to enhance the
>>>>>>>>>> revenue stream) and "benevolent projects?" Like what?
Teaching
>>>>>>>>>> people that condoms are evil and AIDs is god's gift to lovers?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Much better than killing people
>>>>>>>>> for believing in something other than communism.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Communism does not have the corner of that market. What are the
>>>>>>>> "holy wars" all about? It was not over a woman.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot.
>>>>>>> They did the worst so far in history. All atheists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are very comparable to the churches crusades. It is impossible
>>>>>> to know how many people were tortured and murdered all in the name
>>>>>> of christianty. I can tell you that with multiple crusades, the
>>>>>> French religious Wars, the christian muslim wars, the catholic
>>>>>> church backing Hitler, there are more dead due to gods than
atheist.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Numbers tell a different story.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warpcent.htm
>>>>> http://www.inplainsite.org/html/atheism_or_christianity.html
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> monkfish * alt.atheism is removed from the header because
>>>>> atheists there consider quoting the Bible proselytizing and as such
>>>>> it is prohibited by their undebatable policy.
>>>>
>>>> Yup. it really depends on where you get your numbers.
>>>>
>>>> http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstatv.htm#Biblical
>>>> http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm#Huguenot
>>>> http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm#European
>>>> http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstatv.htm#African
>>>> http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstatv.htm#ISlave
>>>> http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm#America
>>>
>>>
>>> Add them up and compare it
>>> with the number of victims murdered by atheists.
>>
>> As I said earlier, it does not matter the number. Both ideologies are
>> guilty of murder. From your point of view a sin is a sin, it does not
>> matter to god, the price is the same. Also the point being made is that
>> if these people, these christians, these religious organizations which
>> claim to be led by a perfect god. Which I will maintain that If this
god
>> is real and leading his church, it would not lead it in the way he has
>> done. The proof is is in the pudding.
>
>
> Don't be ridiculous.
> If God says "Do not murder,"
> and you murder innocent people,
> you definitely are not a Christian.
> If Jesus says "Love your enemies,"
> ad you hate your enemies,
> you definitely are not a Christian.
>
Well the paradox returns. Keep going you are starting to see clearly.
> Why do you blame God
> for what non-Christians do?
> Just because they do so
> "in the name of God"?
>
Your almost there.
> If I taunt you in the name of space,
> would you blame space?
>
Your just about touching it.
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> monkfish * alt.atheism is removed from the header
> because atheists there consider quoting the Bible proselytizing
> and as such it is prohibited by their undebatable policy.
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