On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:33:12 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
> "monkfish" <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:17:03 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
>>
>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:52:14 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Pastor Frank" <PF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>
>>>>>>It's the God who lays down His innocent life for me, because He
>>>>>>loves me, ...to the death if need be.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a good thing he would then, I doubt you would.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Who loves YOU to the death if need be, and whom do YOU love to the
>>>>>> death if need be?
>>>>>
>>>>> My wife and children.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Good for you.
>>>>
>>>> What does it mean for you to love them so much? What does it mean for
>>>> your love for them to exist? Can you prove that such love exists?
>>>>
>>> Can you prove a paradoxical question can prove the existence of god?
>>
>>
>> No.
>>
>> God is prior to proof.
>> God is what makes proof possible.
>>
>> If you want something more traditional, you might be interested in God
>> as Logos.
>
> God claims in the bible that proof is in the works of his people.
Sure, but you are not ready for God-talk yet.
You cannot laugh at God and understand Him.
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