On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 01:45:19 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
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>> On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 00:45:17 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
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>>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 00:53:53 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
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>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 02:05:58 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
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>>>>>>> "Pastor Frank" <PF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>>> Like God is the ideal of what is good and life sup****ting,
>>>>>>>>>> so Satan is
>>>>>>>>>> the ideal of what is evil and death sup****ting. Both exist
>>>>>>>>>> therefore and we have seen them in action, for we all know good
>>>>>>>>>> and evil acted out by people.
>>>>>>>>>> God came in the person of Jesus Christ and we killed Him, so
>>>>>>>>>> Satan too is
>>>>>>>>>> coming in many persons leaving a large trail of death and
>>>>>>>>>> destruction. Both are symbolic of absolutes like good and evil,
>>>>>>>>>> right and wrong, truth and lies etc. etc.
>>>>>>>>>> Or are you a literalist who can't see past the material
>>>>>>>>>> representation?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I assumed you were a literalist. But if Satan represents evil in
>>>>>>>>> this world then you are quite right, Satan is as real as evil
>>>>>>>>> and hate. I like that notion a lot better then a flesh and blood
>>>>>>>>> boogieman who hides behind the shadows.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately evil always is perpetrated by humans and
>>>>>>>> therefore Satan is
>>>>>>>> the human representation of evil, the same as Jesus Christ is the
>>>>>>>> flesh and blood representation of good. Those invisible entities
>>>>>>>> atheists keep denying to exist, do indeed not exist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very good Frank. Satan does not exist. god does dot exist. jesus
>>>>>>> does not exist. They never did, never will. Because they never
>>>>>>> existed, The earth was not created by them. The earth is a very
>>>>>>> old place, much older that your bible says it is. The bible is a
>>>>>>> book of fiction. So the only question is why do you enjoy going to
>>>>>>> star trek conventions so much, because that is about all that is
>>>>>>> happening when you go to church.To say that a devil is what is the
>>>>>>> cause of all the evil in the world is the oldest and easiest cop
>>>>>>> out a person can take. I'm sorry the devil made me do it. That is
>>>>>>> elephant turds. The devil has no more influence on the world than
>>>>>>> propane torch has on melting the polar ice cap. See Frank, I do
>>>>>>> live in reality, my feet are firmly on the ground. Yours I'm not
>>>>>>> so sure of. But I do care, and would like to get you off your drug
>>>>>>> habit. See that what religion is, a bad drug trip. There is help
>>>>>>> out there. People really do care. It's not as scary as you think
>>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Satan AS MISUNDERSTOOD BY YOU does not exist. [G]od AS
>>>>>> MISUNDERSTOOD BY YOU does dot exist. [J]esus AS MISUNDERSTOOD BY
>>>>>> YOU does not exist. They AS MISUNDERSTOOD BY YOU never did, never
>>>>>> will AS MISUNDERSTOOD BY YOU.
>>>>>> Because they AS MISUNDERSTOOD BY YOU never existed, The earth was
>>>>>> not created by them AS MISUNDERSTOOD BY YOU. The earth is a very
>>>>>> old place, much older than [the] Bible AS MISUNDERSTOOD BY YOU says
>>>>>> it is. The bible AS MISUNDERSTOOD BY YOU is a book of fiction.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Testy, testy, testy, that's not christian like. You need to go to
>>>>> confession. god is very mad at you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Satan AS PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD BY CHRISTIANS does exist. God AS
>>>> PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD BY CHRISTIANS does exist. Jesus AS PROPERLY
>>>> UNDERSTOOD BY CHRISTIANS does exist. They AS PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD BY
>>>> CHRISTIANS do exist, and always will be AS PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD BY
>>>> CHRISTIANS. Because God AS PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD BY CHRISTIANS exists,
>>>> the earth was created by God AS PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD BY CHRISTIANS.
>>>> The earth is a very old place,
>>>> as the Bible AS PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD BY CHRISTIANS says it is. The
>>>> bible AS PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD BY CHRISTIANS is not a book of fiction.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Try maybe anger management before god strikes you down.
>>
>>
>> I thought you are hard of hearing.
>
> No not at all I have very good hearing, would you like to see the latest
> result of my OSHA required hearing test?
>
>> I'm calmly smiling with gratitude for everything. I even appreciate
>> your taking the time to reply to me.
>>
> Oh really now.
>
>> What does it mean for God to exist?
>>
> It means a lot of things.
Wonderful!
Now we are going somewhere.
The existence of God means
many different things to many different people.
What does it mean for God to exist
to those clueless atheists who intentionally
misread the Bible to make it most unlikely to exist?
Christians have this nice picture of a house
called "Kingdom of God."
When they tried to show it to atheists,
they refused to believe that it can be built.
Of course, it cannot be built for them
if they are not going to believe in it.
It is built with faith and dreams.
That does not mean atheists are not
building their own dream house.
They simply refuse to share it.
I suspect they don't know what they are doing.
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because atheists there consider quoting the Bible proselytizing
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