On May 22, 11:18 pm, Anlatt the Builder <tirh...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> On May 22, 12:18 pm, s****tbug <MikeNCalifor...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> > >There's a story in Genesis where Ham, the son of Noah, "looks upon
his
> > >father's ****dness" and is cursed and punished for it. But I have
> > >never heard a minister suggest that it's a sin for a father and son
to
> > >use the same locker room. People pick and choose what they want from
> > >the Bible - and then use it to restrict other people's freedoms. It's
> > >a real shame.
>
> > I think Ham did more than just look at his father's ****dness. His
> > father Noah, when he woke up, and saw what was done. What was done?
>
> It says he looked about his father's ****dness. It doesn't say he did
> anything else. "What was done" was the looking. If the Bible has a
> clearer message in this story, it ought to let us know.
>
> Of course, Lot's daughters got him drunk and had *** with him to get
> pregnant, and there's no recorded cursing or punishment there. What
> can we conclude?
21And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered
within his tent.
22And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the ****dness of his father,
and told his two brethren without.
23And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their
shoulders, and went backward, and covered the ****dness of their
father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's
****dness.
24And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had
done unto him.
Please read verse 24. What had his younger son done? Just merely
looking does not mean he done something. I can conclude he did
something to his father other than just merely looking. This is how
I understood the verse.
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