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Re: Atheists have blind faith in their ability

by Andrew <thecroft@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jun 14, 2008 at 03:59 PM

On 2008-06-14 01:21:11 +0100, Thom Madura <Tommadura@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> said:

>> Do they? They may express God's foreknowledge (actually, for God, I 
>> think the 'fore' bit is misleading) and may prepare people for an 
>> understanding of the events to come, but that does not imply planning.
>> 
> 
> The Baltimore Catchism says that god is All-knowing - Past, present, 
> and future. That is a tenet of the religion. Either he knows - or he 
> doesn't.

Agreed

> 
> THe basic Paradox of this is that if he KNOWS the future =- he is 
> powerless to change it - which means he is not almighty.

Depends what you mean by "almighty". It certainly doesn't mean that God 
can do things which are logically incoherent. That's not a limitation 
of power, though.
 




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"Pastor Frank"   2008-05-13 23:39:41 
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What does the Bible say about conscience?
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