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Re: Atheists have blind faith in their ability

by EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED] May 30, 2008 at 08:08 PM

In alt.religion.christian monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > 
> > Why do you jump all over the word "exist"?  Are you trying to prove
that
> > the sky is sad, because it is "blue"?


> Simply because atheists are obssessed with the existence of God
> when God is actually prior to existence.

> Is logic prior to mathematics?

I don't know what you mean by "prior", which can be used in different 
senses.  If you are asking whether the field of mathematics depends on 
there being logic, then yes, logic is prior to mathematics.

If you say that existence is dependent upon God, then you have something 
to prove, rather than a conclusion.

And even if you can prove your contention, that too is a far cry from 
proving that there is anything real about the Christian/Muslim version of 
such a deity.  

-- 
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so 
certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
	-- Bertrand Russel
 




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Re: Atheists have blind faith in their ability
"Pastor Frank"   2008-05-13 23:39:41 
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Andrew <thecroft@[EMAI  2008-05-22 23:44:36 
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monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-22 19:50:07 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-02 11:15:38 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-03 00:35:50 
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monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-06-02 22:09:23 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-03 16:19:38 
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monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-06-03 22:13:48 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-04 12:38:38 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-01 14:25:35 
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monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-06-01 22:27:14 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-02 11:16:33 
What does the Bible say about conscience?
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-06-02 13:14:47 
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"Pastor Frank"   2008-06-04 23:59:36 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-05 12:05:24 
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"Pastor Frank"   2008-06-08 23:24:44 
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EskWIRED@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-06-09 19:50:20 
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Frank@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-06-12 00:24:44 
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"Adonis" <ao  2008-06-13 19:36:40 
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"Pastor Frank"   2008-06-17 20:15:53 
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"Pastor Frank"   2008-05-23 13:22:47 
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