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> On Sat, 10 May 2008 10:17:00 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
> <PF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>> Why would you be looking for answers from us, when Christ, our God
>>incarnate, explained the concept in detail to Philip, who btw also asked
>>Christ to produce His God via "objective verifiable evidence and
>> proof"? Do you REALLY think any of us can do better than Christ
Himself?
>>See below
>
> Hi Pasture Frank,
>
> You can't just delve into the holy mantra of the Christian dogma to
> try to prove a point.
>
Are you preaching atheism now? To call the word of Jesus a mantra
shows
you are unwilling to read and think, but prefer to reiterate atheist
dogma.
I emailed you quotes of Jesus to read, comment on and discuss, not to
ignore. I will give it one last try. If you would rather discuss atheism,
I
would suggest you post to atheist groups.
Pastor Frank
"GOD" THE CHRISTIAN MEANING OF THE WORD ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE:
The word "God" is not a proper name but a title of a position of
whatever is your standard of virtue and ideal of perfection against
which you measure all behaviour. (Jesus in Matthew. 5:48)
I.e. In 2 Corinthians 4:4, Paul says that Satan is: "...the god (theos)
of this world", i.e. reality, to which Atheists reference. And again in a
Philippians 3:19, Paul says there are people: "...whose God (theos) is
their
belly", i.e. gratification, pleasure, to which Hedonists reference. Also,
Jesus speaks of mammon being a god or devil, representing the greed for
possessions, money and power, to which most people reference. (Mt:6:24:)
Jesus tells us in Jn:4:24 that His "GOD IS A SPIRIT", (i.e. akin to a
quality of attitude, like love and care [1Jn 4:8,16] which imbues a person
and animates the flesh), and "they that wor****p him must wor****p him in
spirit and in truth."
Jesus explains further in John 14:6-10: Jesus saith unto him: "I am
the
way, the truth, and the life; no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. If
ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also, and from henceforth
YE
KNOW HIM AND HAVE SEEN HIM." Philip saith unto him: "Lord, show us the
Father, and it sufficeth us." Jesus saith unto him: "Have I been so long
time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? HE THAT HAS SEEN ME
HATH SEEN THE FATHER; and how sayest thou then: Show us the Father?
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? The
words
that I speak unto you I speak not of myself, but the FATHER THAT DWELLETH
IN
ME, HE DOETH THE WORKS."
Jesus in Jn:10:30: I and my Father are one.
Jesus in John 12:44-46`Then Jesus cried out and said, "He who believes
in me, believes not in me but in Him who sent me. And he who sees me sees
Him who sent Me. I have come as a light into the world, that whoever
believes in me should not abide in darkness."
Jesus in Lk 17:20-21: And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when
the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said: "The kingdom
of God cometh not with observation. Neither shall they say, Lo here! or,
lo
there! For, behold, the kingdom of GOD IS WITHIN YOU."
1Jn:4:8: He that LOVETH not, knoweth not God; for GOD IS LOVE.
1Jn:4:16: And we have known and believed the LOVE that God hath to us.
GOD IS LOVE; and he that dwelleth in LOVE dwelleth in God, and God in him.
Jesus in Jn:13:34: A new commandment I give unto you, That ye LOVE one
another; as I have LOVED you, that ye also LOVE one another.
Jesus in Jn:13:35: By this shall all men know that ye are my
disciples,
if ye have LOVE one to another.
Jesus in Jn:15:12-13: This is my commandment: That ye LOVE one
another,
as I have LOVED you. Greater LOVE hath no man than this, that a man lay
down
his life for his friends.
Acts:17:28: For in Him we live, and move, and have our being; as
certain
also of your own poets have said, For we are also His offspring.
Proverbs 10:22 God is nearer than our own soul, closer than our most
secret thoughts.
Heb:1:8: But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and
ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
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