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Re: Verses on women in church

by monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 5, 2008 at 07:16 PM

J A wrote:

> This is particularly humorous since various churchs have been caving in
to
> modern marketing pressures to allow women shamen (who often turn out to
be
> lesbians).
> 
> Remember, these bible verses are supposed to be the word of "god", or at
> least inspired by "god"...
> 
> On women in church:
> 
> 1 Corinthians 14:34 (New International Version)
> New International Version (NIV)
> Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984 by International Bible Society
> 
> 34 women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to
> speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says.
> 
> 1 Timothy 2 (New International Version)
> 11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not
> permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be
> silent. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not
> the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a
> sinner. 15 But women[a] will be saved[b] through childbearing-if they
> continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety.
> 
> 1 Corinthians 14:33-35 (New International Version)
> New International Version (NIV)
> 
> 33 For God is not a God of disorder but of peace.
> As in all the congregations of the saints, 34 women should
> remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must
> be in submission, as the Law says. 35 If they want to inquire about
> something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is
> disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church
> ===
> 
> Apparently, the "truth" changes over time according to manmade social
> pressures..
> 
> Yes Andrew, you're wor****pping a large pile of horse****....   ;-))


You don't seem to understand the nature of God's will that well.
Even though they didn't have the proper expression,
they knew even two thousands years ago that
all the apparent rules are not to be interpreted literally.
Most of them are too archaic to be applied to the modern society.
But they are quite good examples for a certain policy
if we manage to overcome our anachronistic tendencies.

God's will needs to be understood as a policy.
That would become clear if you looks at the words of Jesus Christ. 
"Love God with all your heart."
"Love your neighbor."
"Love even your enemies."
In modern parlance, they are policies.
If you are familiar with legal reasoning, you would know that
reasoning with policies is quite different from applying rules.

What would be the modern interpretation of the policy
exemplified in the above archaic passages?


-- 
monkfish   * alt.atheism is removed from the header because trying to
prove
the existence of God is prohibited by their undebatable policy.
** Atheists have blind faith in their ability to know of all actual or
possible modes of existence. Such hubris cannot be good for science.
 




 11 Posts in Topic:
Daily Spirit-guided thought for 05/05/08.
"Andrew B. Chung, MD  2008-05-05 03:29:56 
Verses on women in church
"J A" <ae@[E  2008-05-05 16:02:05 
Re: Verses on women in church
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-05 19:16:01 
Re: Verses on women in church
"Mark T" <sn  2008-05-06 09:55:28 
Re: Verses on women in church
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-05 21:09:15 
Re: Verses on women in church
Linda Lee <lindagirl44  2008-05-05 16:46:15 
Whoosh Alert Re: Verses on women in church
Phobos <phobos.iam@[EM  2008-05-05 19:21:11 
God's will needs to be understood as policies.
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-05 21:16:07 
Most of whoosh's post could be called whooshy-whaashy.
J666 <j666@[EMAIL PROT  2008-05-05 20:40:04 
Re: Verses on women in church
monkfish <monkfish@[EM  2008-05-05 21:02:53 
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD  2008-05-06 01:45:25 

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