On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 21:04:37 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
> "monkfish" <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 17:59:54 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
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>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:47:04 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
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>>>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> On Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:25:48 -0400, Fred Jones wrote:
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>>>>>>> "monkfish" <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:45:10 -0400, default wrote:
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>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:03:53 -0400, "Pastor Frank"
>>>>>>>>> <PF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>y church tithes 15% of their income to missionaries, plus have
>>>>>>>>>>many other benevolent projects going.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A Whopping 15%? Of their "income?" OK so you contribute 15% to
>>>>>>>>> the church and in turn the church contributes 15% of your 15% to
>>>>>>>>> missionaries (whose purpose is to make converts to enhance the
>>>>>>>>> revenue stream) and "benevolent projects?" Like what? Teaching
>>>>>>>>> people that condoms are evil and AIDs is god's gift to lovers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Much better than killing people
>>>>>>>> for believing in something other than communism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Communism does not have the corner of that market. What are the
>>>>>>> "holy wars" all about? It was not over a woman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot.
>>>>>> They did the worst so far in history. All atheists.
>>>>>
>>>>> They are very comparable to the churches crusades. It is impossible
>>>>> to know how many people were tortured and murdered all in the name
>>>>> of christianty. I can tell you that with multiple crusades, the
>>>>> French religious Wars, the christian muslim wars, the catholic
>>>>> church backing Hitler, there are more dead due to gods than atheist.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Numbers tell a different story.
>>>>
>>>> http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warpcent.htm
>>>> http://www.inplainsite.org/html/atheism_or_christianity.html
>>>>
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>>>> monkfish * alt.atheism is removed from the header because
>>>> atheists there consider quoting the Bible proselytizing and as such
>>>> it is prohibited by their undebatable policy.
>>>
>>> Yup. it really depends on where you get your numbers.
>>>
>>> http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstatv.htm#Biblical
>>> http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm#Huguenot
>>> http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm#European
>>> http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstatv.htm#African
>>> http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstatv.htm#ISlave
>>> http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat0.htm#America
>>
>>
>> Add them up and compare it
>> with the number of victims murdered by atheists.
>
> As I said earlier, it does not matter the number. Both ideologies are
> guilty of murder. From your point of view a sin is a sin, it does not
> matter to god, the price is the same. Also the point being made is that
> if these people, these christians, these religious organizations which
> claim to be led by a perfect god. Which I will maintain that If this god
> is real and leading his church, it would not lead it in the way he has
> done. The proof is is in the pudding.
Don't be ridiculous.
If God says "Do not murder,"
and you murder innocent people,
you definitely are not a Christian.
If Jesus says "Love your enemies,"
ad you hate your enemies,
you definitely are not a Christian.
Why do you blame God
for what non-Christians do?
Just because they do so
"in the name of God"?
If I taunt you in the name of space,
would you blame space?
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