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>> "Willy" <willyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>
>>>>> For the record, I am an active/exclusive hetero***ual. I believe
that
>>>>> (a) God intended marriage between a male and a female to be the norm
>>>>> for humans, but (b) the vast majority of homo***uals - if not all of
>>>>> them - did not choose their orientation, and (c) they have a right
to
>>>>> be treated as precious human beings created in the image of God like
>>>>> the rest of us.
>>>>>
>>>> That's is living with obesity because hunger is natural. If we
>>>> thought like that of ANY aberrant behaviour, then no cure would ever
be
>>>> found for anything. The question should be: Why does homo***uality
>>>> occur, and is there a prevention possible and/or desirable? Perhaps
we
>>>> should encourage homo***uality to prevent overpopulation? Then what
>>>> produces the maximum results?
>>>> Considering, that homo***uality is rare among the poor and
>>>> primitive, it is obviously a cultural phenomena. When we ask
ourselves
>>>> what cultural phenomena that might be, then it must be one, that is
>>>> uncommon among the poor and primitive, such children sleeping alone.
>>>> Look at the normal sleeping arrangement among mammals, and you see
the
>>>> young sleeping touching each other, if not their parents also, and so
>>>> do the children of the poor and primitive. The very young sleeping in
>>>> separate beds, if not also in separate rooms is quite unnatural and
>>>> apparently prevents them from assuming gender appropriate roles at an
>>>> optimal age, which is probably before the child can talk.
>>>
>>> Wow P Frank: I've NEVER heard of this theory, and I thought I'd heard
>>> them all.
>>> Is this your speculation alone, or have you seen research to sup****t
>>> this concept?
>>> If so, I'd be very interested in the source as I'd like to research
the
>>> thought process further.
>>> Willy
>>>
>> It's logical deduction, Willy, but could be worth a research grant
to
>> some scientist. There is another fact for you, that might have a
>> connection. Zoologists re****t, that Simians (our closest animal
>> relatives) who grew up in isolation, and never witnessed (were taught)
>> reproduction by their species in infancy, are unable to reproduce as
>> adults.
>> We witness a similar situation in mental institutions, where inmates
>> able to masturbate are most often unable to copulate.
>> Apparently for normal ***ual function later in life, infants must be
>> wired correctly at an optimal age.
>
> You and I may not agree on this matter, but here's a thought for you.
> While I do believe there is a SMALL number of homo***uals that are born
> from the womb as such, I tend to believe that 99% of the gay community
are
> developed by life and social events at a prebuescent (spelling?) age.
> While I feel this is something that cannot be changed, in that we are
what
> we are, but unlike the gay community at large, I do not believe we are
> born (least not commonly) with a predisposal to ***ual tendency in
> general.
> Here's something for you to think about. I am a firm believer that most
> homo***uality is a result of a disconnect with the male "father figure"
in
> the life of the inidividual, and I believe that holds true for both gays
> as well as lesbians.
I know, that's a popular notion, but if that were true, than
homo***uals
should abound after a war when a large percentage of males are no longer
living. And I don't think this is a fact. There is much speculation, but
little research sup****ted facts.
Having said that, we often hear today that there seems to
> be more "gayness" than ever, and it leads us to wonder why, when
examining
> history of as little as 50 years ago, we don't see evidence of a similar
> phenomenom.
> I believe the answer is simple. The divorce rate, as well as the number
> of single mothers (no father figure in the home) raising children the
last
> 30 years as multiplied more times than any period in history.
>
We are getting richer and every child has his/her own room. That
physical closeness that once was so common is no longer there, preventing
infants ***-tying themselves at the optimum age. Most manage without it,
but
there are always some who wire themselves the wrong way.
> And the result, more individuals that are socially and permanently
> conditioned (without any effort on their part) to being gay. It's
suurely
> a little more complex than one written sentence, but I have done
> considerable research over many years and am solidly convinced this is
> true.
> Honestly I don't agree with the maturbation theory, as I truly feel any
> and every male on this planet, particularly during puberty and 20's most
> likely participates in this acitivity on a very frequent, perhaps daily
> basis. In females it seems to be a little less in frequency, but none
the
> less a normal function. I don't believe that masturbation is in any way
> an act of self love, as most all of us have a somewhat vivid
imagination,
> and the fact that we're doing the deed has little to do with what is
going
> on in our imagination at the time.
>
You are not following what I wrote. I said, that mentally disabled
people may be ***ually able, as evidenced by their ability to masturbate,
but they often do not associate this act with the opposite *** in any way.
This makes them in effect unable to reproduce.
I remember us boys in class comparing girls we thought of when
masturbating. There was this one, weird boy who thought of his mom's fur
coat, instead of a girl. I am quite sure such a one will be unable /
unwilling to perform coitus.
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