steveo wrote:
> "Willy" <willyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Pastor Frank" <PF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> "Willy" <willyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >> news:85F5j.3007$Vq.2099@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> "**Rowland Croucher**" <rccroucher@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >>> wrote in message
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> >>>> Willy wrote:
> >>>>> "**Rowland Croucher**"
<rccroucher@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >>>>> wrote in message
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> >>>>>> A friend wrote:
> >>>> <>
> >>>>> I'm not sure of your interpretation of universalsim,
> >>>>
> >>>> 'All humans will be saved; there is no eternal torture for God's
> >>>> precious creatures in a cosmic rubbish dump called hell'.
> >>>>
> >>>>> but I tend to agree with you on this point.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Many would argue that universal atonement violates a person who
> >>>>> chooses not to believe in God's will, but in reality it does not.
> >>>>> Just because you don't believe is an invalid argument as believing
is
> >>>>> not part of the essential formula for a universal system. And
perhaps
> >>>>> only those that willfully and wantonly refuse God and shake their
fist
> >>>>> in his face defiantly and intentionally will be denied atonement
for
> >>>>> their sins.
> >>>>
> >>>> My God is big and gracious enough to cope with this sort of
senseless,
> >>>> stupid and ignorant defiance...
> >>>
> >>> Actually you and I agree, although I do believe it is possible to
> >>> willfully reject God. However, I, like yourself, do not believe in
> >>> Hell. Or rather I should say, Hell is simply seperation from God.
> >>>
> >> Actually it is not possible. For the god that is "willfully
> >> rejectable" is not God. Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16)
> >> become fully manifested in Jesus Christ giving His life for us
sinners on
> >> the cross of Calvary. We therefore know our God and have seen Him.
(Jesus
> >> in John 14:6-10)
> >> Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot see Him, (Jesus
in
> >> John 3:3)
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
> >
> > pastor Frank:
> >
> > I make those comments about it being "possible" to reject God based
solely
> > on the scriptural suggestion that the ONLY sin that cannot be forgiven
is
> > blasphemy, and to me, blasphemy would be the act of willfully and
> > intentionally rejecting God and spitting in His face.
> >
> > However, I do make those comments with a tremendous degree of
reservation,
> > for I, like yourself, tend to believe that all will be saved.
> >
> > Willy
>
> I agree with your interpretation, Willy. Question: with free will being
> part of humanity's design,
Humanity WAS NOT designed it developed over time, from early humans
without
spoken or written language to modern humans today
> if a human chose to actively not wor****p God and
> Jesus even after believing that they do exist, how would taking them
with
> the believers be in alignment with the purposeful design of God for
humanity
> (i.e. giving us free will)? This is not meant to necessarily be a
leading
> question.
I gave up wor****pping because as i gained in intelligence and by using
logic I
saw throght the whole scam.
Traveling to Africa and Asia only confirmed things.
>
>
> steveo
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