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Re: Universalism

by "Willy" <willyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 6, 2007 at 11:19 PM

"Pastor Frank" <PF@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> "Willy" <willyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:85F5j.3007$Vq.2099@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "**Rowland Croucher**" <rccroucher@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote 
>> in message news:474f97d2$0$3101$afc38c87@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Willy wrote:
>>>> "**Rowland Croucher**" <rccroucher@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>>>> wrote in message
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>>>>> A friend wrote:
>>> <>
>>>> I'm not sure of your interpretation of universalsim,
>>>
>>> 'All humans will be saved; there is no eternal torture for God's 
>>> precious creatures in a cosmic rubbish dump called hell'.
>>>
>>>> but I tend to agree with you on this point.
>>>>
>>>> Many would argue that universal atonement violates a person who
chooses 
>>>> not to believe in God's will, but in reality it does not.  Just
because 
>>>> you don't believe is an invalid argument as believing is not part of 
>>>> the essential formula for a universal system.  And perhaps only those

>>>> that willfully and wantonly refuse God and shake their fist in his
face 
>>>> defiantly and intentionally will be denied atonement for their sins.
>>>
>>> My God is big and gracious enough to cope with this sort of senseless,

>>> stupid and ignorant defiance...
>>
>> Actually you and I agree, although I do believe it is possible to 
>> willfully reject God.  However, I, like yourself, do not believe in
Hell. 
>> Or rather I should say, Hell is simply seperation from God.
>>
>    Actually it is not possible. For the god that is "willfully
rejectable" 
> is not God. Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully 
> manifested in Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross
of 
> Calvary. We therefore know our God and have seen Him. (Jesus in John 
> 14:6-10)
>    Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot see Him, (Jesus in
> John 3:3)
>
>
> -- 
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>

pastor Frank:

I make those comments about it being "possible" to reject God based solely

on the scriptural suggestion that the ONLY sin that cannot be forgiven is 
blasphemy, and to me, blasphemy would be the act of willfully and 
intentionally rejecting God and spitting in His face.

However, I do make those comments with a tremendous degree of reservation,

for I, like yourself, tend to believe that all will be saved.

Willy
 




 40 Posts in Topic:
Re: Universalism
"Willy" <wil  2007-11-29 11:52:44 
Re: Universalism
**Rowland Croucher** <  2007-11-30 15:54:31 
Re: Universalism
"Pastor Frank"   2007-11-30 10:51:37 
Re: Universalism
Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2007-12-01 17:55:21 
Re: Universalism
**Rowland Croucher** <  2007-12-02 11:16:44 
Re: Universalism
Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2007-12-02 15:25:14 
Re: Universalism
**Rowland Croucher** <  2007-12-03 16:09:07 
Re: Universalism
Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2007-12-03 13:16:06 
Re: Universalism
**Rowland Croucher** <  2007-12-05 22:07:03 
Re: Universalism
Dubh Ghall <puck@[EMAI  2007-12-05 13:18:59 
Re: Universalism
"Pastor Frank"   2007-12-02 04:14:38 
Re: Universalism
"Willy" <wil  2007-12-05 16:53:06 
Re: Universalism
"Pastor Frank"   2007-12-05 19:51:40 
Re: Universalism
"Willy" <wil  2007-12-06 23:19:27 
Re: Universalism
"steveo" <gn  2007-12-08 21:00:07 
Re: Universalism
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-12-08 23:53:04 
Re: Universalism
"Pastor Frank"   2007-12-09 06:09:11 
Re: Universalism
"Willy" <wil  2007-12-11 01:03:39 
Re: Universalism
"Pastor Frank"   2007-12-10 22:28:10 
Re: Universalism
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-12-11 03:51:01 
Re: Universalism
"Willy" <wil  2007-12-11 14:15:09 
Re: Universalism
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-12-11 23:14:01 
Re: Universalism
"Willy" <wil  2007-12-12 08:39:19 
Re: Universalism
"Pastor Frank"   2007-12-13 04:38:55 
Re: Universalism
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-12-14 23:56:02 
Re: Universalism
"Willy" <wil  2007-12-11 14:24:40 
Re: Universalism
"Pastor Frank"   2007-12-11 15:31:26 
Re: Universalism
"Pastor Frank"   2007-12-11 18:51:15 
Re: Universalism
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-12-11 03:48:02 
Re: Universalism
"Willy" <wil  2007-12-11 14:16:05 
Re: Universalism
"Pastor Frank"   2007-12-09 06:06:43 
Re: Universalism
"steveo" <gn  2007-12-10 01:10:22 
Re: Universalism
"Willy" <wil  2007-12-10 13:33:21 
Re: Universalism
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-12-11 03:52:01 
Re: Universalism
"Willy" <wil  2007-12-11 14:21:27 
Re: Universalism
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-12-11 23:22:01 
Re: Universalism
"Willy" <wil  2007-12-12 08:35:44 
Re: Universalism
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-12-13 00:11:01 
Re: Universalism
"Willy" <wil  2007-12-14 21:48:43 
Re: Universalism
bob young <alaspectrum  2007-12-15 00:14:02 

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