"Willy" <willyk@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> "**Rowland Croucher**" <rccroucher@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote
> in message news:474f97d2$0$3101$afc38c87@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Willy wrote:
>>> "**Rowland Croucher**" <rccroucher@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>> wrote in message
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>>>> A friend wrote:
>> <>
>>> I'm not sure of your interpretation of universalsim,
>>
>> 'All humans will be saved; there is no eternal torture for God's
precious
>> creatures in a cosmic rubbish dump called hell'.
>>
>>> but I tend to agree with you on this point.
>>>
>>> Many would argue that universal atonement violates a person who
chooses
>>> not to believe in God's will, but in reality it does not. Just
because
>>> you don't believe is an invalid argument as believing is not part of
the
>>> essential formula for a universal system. And perhaps only those that
>>> willfully and wantonly refuse God and shake their fist in his face
>>> defiantly and intentionally will be denied atonement for their sins.
>>
>> My God is big and gracious enough to cope with this sort of senseless,
>> stupid and ignorant defiance...
>
> Actually you and I agree, although I do believe it is possible to
> willfully reject God. However, I, like yourself, do not believe in
Hell.
> Or rather I should say, Hell is simply seperation from God.
>
Actually it is not possible. For the god that is "willfully
rejectable"
is not God. Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully
manifested in Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of
Calvary. We therefore know our God and have seen Him. (Jesus in John
14:6-10)
Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot see Him, (Jesus in
John 3:3)
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