Pagans & Wiccans in MPD (yea, right...)
Originally: "Lights and Mirrorrs"
(available on google newsgroup archive) Submitted by: Anonymously (USA)
Warning: This page was written by a person with DDNOS/PT
(dissociative disorder not otherwise specified with possession
trance claims). This person feels very strongly that all
alter-personalities are spirits. For those with MPD, DID, or
related, no insults are intended here, be careful. Please view
this page only if and as curious to that side of the coin, DDNOS/PT.
3-paganwiccanmpd.htm
Note: Several Other Articles Attached Below
MPD: multiple personality disorder
DID: dissociative identity disorder
Integration: MPD therapy, to integrate shattered (split) personality
states.
Alter: alter-personality, alter-ego states, channeling
DSM: Physician's Diagnostic Reference Manual, label of diagnosis
> What does this have to do with DID?
What does water have to do with DID? Tell me, how can a practicing
pagan/wiccan who casts spells and summons demons, and channels (is a
medium), and who is a dope smoking dyke, who still lives with her mom,
logically claim a diagnosis of DID? Also, how can a practicing
wiccan/pagan therapist logically treat this supposed DID? Who is
getting people raped, here. Yea, INTEGRATING What? Who is hurting
who. It all comes down to what? cult.
I was formerly naive, and would believe and trust almost anyone. I
just had never seen that people could act with such immorality, without
shame, with such deceit, and not think twice about it. No conscience,
without natural effection or honor. No shame, not even a blush! Yea,
the curtain is pulled back, Dorothy. You'd better reach for your
gl*****. We are all spirits, and I do mean all! Lights fla****ng, with
mirrors, so you can see who they truly are.
Jesus is the author and the finisher of my faith!
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As you would notice if you bothered to learn to read,
tictock is saying that whoever this person referred to is
CANNOT claim to have DID as an explanation for
her behavior, since it is too comprehensive, too routine, too
lacking in variability to be a case of occasionally "wigging out"
or of an alternate personality taking over. It is normal for that
person, so she is lying in saying she is a helpless robot
doing these things, she does them too much, and knows
enough not to.
Tictock is saying that these practices REFUTE her claim
of having DID. Tictock is not saying they have anything
to do with DID, though in fact there could be MPD cases
where an alter is a ritual practicer, etc.
>>Also, how can a practicing
>>wiccan/pagan therapist logically treat this supposed DID?
>
>It shouldn't matter what religion one's therapist is. What is
>im****tant is that they be a qualified mental health professional.
>
And if their religion is merely a dressed up to look respectable
package of abnormal psychological tendencies, then
how can she, regardless of qualifications in terms of degrees
and licenses, be considered objective?
Look to the DSM yourself - consider such concepts as "magical
thinking," and "delusions of reference," and ritualistic type OCD.
You cannot, with any honesty, deny that they overlap to what
wicca/paganism considers normal.
So how worthwhile is a therapist, who counts abnormal
things among what is normal for her?
Furthermore, if you go locate and read the Temple of Set's
"Law of One," and think about autism, you may notice a
similarity. The autistic has simply gone to the most extreme
form of what "The Law of One" glorifies.
That way lies madness, as the old saying goes.
I noticed a long time ago, that there is a similarity between
what the East calls enlightenment, and what the West calls
mental illness. Maybe that's one of the reasons the East
(meaning India) has been so messed up (poverty, disease,
overpopulation, etc.)?
Also, dissociative conditions are actively promoted by some
categories of occultism, and certainly feature as part of
the effort to create "astral projection" and some other stuff.
So how is someone who advocates and practices dissociative
states as part of her religion, qualified to recognize as abnormal,
and to treat in order to eliminate, dissociative disorders?!
I suggest that the "qualifications" of such therapists are phony,
in that ALTHOUGH THE COLLEGE DEGREES AND
PROFESSIONAL LICENCES ARE LEGITIMATELY GRANTED,
they were obtained by the fraud, of taking the courses, answering
questions in accord with what she knows the examiner expects to
hear from a sane person seeking to promote sanity, or she
answers what she really thinks is true insofar as she can
warp her examiner's opinions around to hers, or find some
who are already warped, ditto whatever it takes to get the
licensing.
For example, lets suppose there is some multiple choice
exam which incl. questions about listing "which of the
following typical thought content is abnormal, and what
category of the DSM does it fall in?"
If these include concepts her religion considers okay, she
will be lying in calling them abnormal, but will list them anyway,
knowing what is expected of her, so she will not flunk.
Having passed her tests, she gets her degree and can
now get her license and go out and make money.
>Who is getting people raped,here.
>
>What in the hell are you talking about?
>
Again I think that should be self evident, if you are acquainted
with this overall subject.
wicca/paganism/and other stuff, denies any moral absolutes,
and promotes ***ual looseness. Any meaning regarding *** is
to be reproductive or magic usable energy releasing or to undermine
the pair bond and promote a group bond, or to be something done
between two entities that are possessing (or at least being
represented by) the couple doing the *** acts.
The wiccan rede, "an [so long as] it hurt none, do what thou
wilt," is not protection enough against abuse.
Consider, if one is to have one's will respected, but
for one's own good, only you TRUE will whatever that is,
which you don't know yet and only the higher evolved leaders
can tell you - well, what is to keep them from bulldogging you into
*** allegedly for your own good?
(Like that line from one girl standing in line
for Rasputin in
the movie about him to another, "*** with the holy father
purifies your soul.")
After all, "do what thou wilt" is an obvious grab from Aleister
Crowley's Law of Thelema, "Do what thou wilt shall be the
whole of the law," and I'm not sure he even invented that one.
Some think Crowley taught freedom, and (like Peter
Levenda) are puzzled how fascists could like him. But he
hasn't pursued Crowleyite thought to its logical conclusion.
The fascist position in Nazi Germany, was that the Fueher
embodied the will of the people. Anyone opposing his will,
wasn't reflecting the collective will.
Crowley taught that the true will of anyone was to obey the
will of the Aeon or something like that, and the Magus of the Aeon
(meaning Crowley himself of course) embodied or determined
or something like that the will of the Aeon.
And Crowley was a howling collection of perversions,
lies, bull****, and advice on how to manipulate women
(so much for anything sup****tive of them he had to say, it
was a line nothing more), who wrote that the ideal sacrifice
was a virgin male child of about 6 years or more or less I forget
which.
Therefore, one will in such systems (unless in some
"coven" started by some harmless types who got their
stuff out of books and selected what they wanted and dumped
the rest and pretended the rest, and its obvious implications,
didn't even exist), quite possibly be taken step by step to
"higher" levels in which one will be made to think that the less
one has any sense of personal identity or ability to say no
to evil or to say no to unwanted ***, or to anything else,
the more masochistic the better (till one gets high enough in rank
or finds victims on the street to pull this **** on other people and
therefore be a sadist).
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> Most marriages aren't *nearly* as close or as intimate as Pagan Spirit
Guides!
which is exactly the point...
spoiler religion, may trigger, turn the page if you get heated.
It was something that had always confounded me, the
biblical "angels married to human women". I began to
understand it only once I understood the pagan-wiccan
(unspoken - subconscious) viewpoint as to what constitutes
marriage and devotion in their circles. After all, it was Aliester
Crowley (a satanist) who coined the wiccan phrase:
"Do what thou wilt".
Biblically, the end-time will be "As the days of Noah",
where Angels (spirits) & Humanity shared in marriage,
where God stepped in to destroy, the great flood.
Just goes to show why some of us are
dealing with negs (pestilence), while
others are not, are their bedfellows.
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End of part one, the rest of steelwolf's post I answer in part 2,
so I don't get disconnected before this posts.
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First, a note on something that happened in the original discussion:
A few wiccan/pagan people who saw this discussion were commenting on how
MPD/DID duality, co-consciousness, and switching impairs them. So bad,
that
they can hardly function, some of them are actually on DID/MPD related
disability income. The im****tance here, is to note that the wiccan/pagan
therapist involved here needs some consideration, some allowance, for
error,
misdirection, misdirected, as such.
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Part 2: FWD Follows:
In article <20001108002908.19974.00000219@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
infowolf1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Infowolf1) wrote:
> steelwolf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(The Steel Wolf) wrote:
>
> >tictock
> ><va****trap@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> scripsit:
> >
> >>It all comes down to what? cult.
> >here are many Christian churches which seem far more cultic in nature
> >than any sort of neopagan spirituality. Are you even aware of the
> >criteria for evaluating whether or not a group is a cult, or do you
> >simply ascribe the label to any religion that you don't like?
>
> To the extent a Christian group matches criteria for an ABUSIVE
> cult, they are deviating from the Biblical standards of behvaior.
> As I have pointed out in Part one, this is not necessarily the case
> when a pagan or any non-absolutes group is involved: There is
> nothing inherent to their system that forbids this, nothing
> you can point to as an authority against it that has to be twisted
> before it can sup****t evil.
>
> Abusive Christians twist Scripture. But Setians and some
> others are simply obeying the obvious implications of theirs.
>
> The word "cult" is from a Latin word referring to ritual.
> Anything group that practices religious rituals, and makes
> the ritual the near totality, qualifies as a cult.
> The so-called "academic criteria of a cult" you refer to later,
> are actually only the criteria for ABUSIVE cults, and are
> the threadbare elements left after you eliminate objective
> truth in the field of reigion while trying to deal with what
> is done by some of those who have already done just that, and
> are happier with the evil outcomes than you are.
>
> >I just had never seen that people could act with such immorality,
> >>without shame, with such deceit, and not think twice about it.
> >
> >And what deceit is it to imply that one's religion and ***uality
> >disqualify one from having a mental illness?
>
> It is NOT deceit, if the issue is that the person caught
> doing a pagan or satanic ritual, or smoking dope, or doing
> some unnatural *** acts, has tried to explain all this
> as a momentary aberration brought on by a mental illness.
>
> I do not know who this person is or what led up to the
> original post, but it certainly sounds as if something like
> this is the case. It sounds like someone is being described
> who is a current member and regular attender of some
> cult that does these things, plus ongoing personal misbehavior.
> In other words, that there is no vacillation, no swings from one
> extreme to another, no indication of dissociation or of
> multiple personalities, but rather, that this is the main activity
> of a solely existing personality, or of all the personalities, in
> agreement together.
>
> So she ain't no so-sufferer of an illness she can identify with,
> she actively practicing and clinging to all this.
>
> Earlier steelwolf, you argued that tictock's saying>>Tell me, how can a
> practicing
> >>pagan/wiccan who casts spells and summons demons, and channels (is a
> >>medium), and who is a dope smoking dyke, who still lives with her mom,
> >>logically claim a diagnosis of DID?
> >
>
> was wrong, and said>Try taking a look in the DSM-IV sometime. The things
you
> mention have
> >absolutely nothing to do with DID, as you would know if you had even
> >the most rudimentary knowledge of high school psychology.
> >
>
> First, you are saying then that this person's re****ted behavior
> is not DID, which is what tictock is also saying - i.e.,
> that her claims of DID are fraudulent, because her behavior is
> too routine along these lines.
>
> Now, you turn around and say that these behaviors do not
> rule out her having a mental illness - aren't you being a bit
> deceptive or else self-contradictorilly hysterical?
>
> Now, go take a look at the DSM-IV yourself. A high pressure
> small group of perverts who'd weasled into the psychiatric community
> managed to get homo***uality removed from the list of
> mental diseases, which doesn't make it normal just because
> some people caved in and said it is. But some of the rest of what
> characterizes her religion IS listed as abnormal.
>
> "Magical thinking," and "delusions of reference" and
> ritualistic type OCD (particularly the patient's sense
> of this making a barrier against something unspecified looming
> at them), and the dissociative states that the medium cultivates
> in order to channel something and the states cultivated as
> superior entityhood or some such crap, but are close to being a
> psychopath, ARE in the DSM-IV still.
>
> And those ARE features of occultic thought and practice.
>
> >What deceit is it to
> >imply that a group of barely connected, highly individualistic,
> >decentralized spiritualities collectively referred to as "neopaganism"
> >comes anywhere close to meeting the academic criteria of a cult?
> >
>
> Try the concept of "networking" and social circles overlapping.
> The problem is not that they are one cult but many. But they
> share attitudes that naturally lead to all sorts of evil, even if
> held in abeyance by the influence of non-pagan culture
> around them.
>
> If you examine some of the literature on brainwa****ng and
> so forth, you will find (those that look at primitive religous
initiations)
> that there is a heavy duty kind of brainwa****ng process
> involved.
>
> As for "academic criteria" I've already deflated that
> conceit I think. >>Jesus is the author and the finisher of my faith!
> >
> >I'm glad that works for you.
> >
>
> It will work for anyone - IF that person dedicates him/herself
> to Jesus.
>
> Just think a minute: What are those strange looking words,
> some in Hebrew letters, some in English, that are written around a
> circle, in order to trap a demon inside the circle, or to keep one out?
>
> The words that the demons fear?
>
> They are the names of God!
>
> Adonai = Lord in Hebrew, the Hebrew form is always used in The
> Bible to refer to the true God, not Baal which is Phoenician/Canaanite
> for lord since it refers to a false god who was called "lord."
>
> El Shaddai = The Almighty
>
> YHWH = Yahweh, Anglicized into Jehovah. This translates roughtly as The
> Self-Existent One.
>
> I recently stumbled on the fact, that in Zoroastrianism, Ahura
> Mazda the Ahura part at least also means the Self Existent One.
>
> Interesting, these morality and absolutes and no idols monotheistic
> religions seem to track back to revelations from the same Being.
>
> (Don't bother me with specious arguments about trinitarianism being
> polytheism. Just think of non-separatable Siamese twins,
> then picture a Siamese TRIPLET, and you have three totally
> distinct PERSONS in one being, NOT alternate personalities
> fluctuating in a cosmic case of MPD, but distinct personal entities,
> inseparably joing from before forever, with no beginning, and no end.)
>
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I know this old lady in this town who is a psychic. She (Francis)
always speaks of having one alter that drives her car, one that smokes,
one that is her memory bank, and one that remembers names, addresses,
people, situations, and of coarse, one that deals with the bad or
stressful. Yea, house full of alters alright, only she calls them
her "Spirit Guides". She's a medium. When reading the mpd
dissociation group's (pagan/wiccan) postings, it sounds
just like Francis. Just do a web-search on Spirit Guides. Of coarse,
most christians would call them all demons, or familiar spirits, or
guardian angels, or holy spirit. Most mpd'ers that I've ran across are
not Christian. As I said earlier, they are Pagan and Wiccan, and know
fully how to summon and entertain "spirits" and spirit guides. They
know full well what they're dealing with. It's "unspoken",
and "understandably unspoken". It's witchcraft and idolry, and so they
have to hide it. They have to twist it. Some of these, in particular,
are collecting welfare and disability social security SSI benefits,
medical
benefits,
welfare therapy, housing, food assistance, children health assistance,
child paycheck AFDC... Yea, free ride! Don't be naive. Put it all
together. The truth will set you free. Ole Francis is probably doing
the same thing. The government pays the house note, on some such
programs. I did a web search in the dissociation group, some of these
pagan/wiccan guys have made a career hitting-up the welfare system, not
only
health care
and disability, but further education, housing assistance and even houses,
home improvement grants, other grants, and more. Search at google.com
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Steel,
This is why I always enjoy responding to your feedback. My mind
tells me the same things, that I should question all of this, that all
paths lead to same, that unorthodoxy would be more appropriate due to
the clear conflict and discrepency with the word and what we see.
Steel, I recognise such thoughts as foriegn, as meant to deceive and
mislead. Some might call this brainwa****ng, or SRA, but I clearly
recognise such inner voices/imaginations as foriegn. With such
discernment which I claim here, I choose to stick with my particular
faith no matter what. No matter what, the word is my foundation. I
start here, to the right, and here I will remain. As you've seen, the
faith speaks back to many of us, comforting us and explaining things.
Them misleading us, it's all a game, but not exactly what you
think/discern. Yea, that's the game.
vt
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Great followup, and I do appreciate the clarity.
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Though you may not agree, I have maintained that DID, MPD, in most
cases, appears to be a spiritual possession, of sorts. This is why I
wrote the statement, "integrating what?". When pagan/wiccans summon
spirits, when they begin to channel spirits and become mediums of
spirits, when these spirit guides are invited to live and operate
within them; then a situation develops where such a therapist/patient
would sometimes insist to any newbie (possibly possessed of demons)that
these SPLIT-PERSONALITIES, are of God, sent to heal, sent to protect,
sent to guide; when in fact their true motive could/would be for
***ual/physical indulgence, or even to harm. Of coarse, the
wiccan/pagan would be doing great harm, would be/IS NOW, misleading the
newbie, would beJ/IS NOW encouraging spirit possession, and could be
considered to be fulfilling a covenent with the devil to fill and
integrate innocent naive gullable newbie bystanders. Again, Who is
raping who?
Again, since the DSM refers to DID/MPD as split-personality
disscociative disorder, the wiccan/pagan who is now inflamed with
demons, encouraging same, and lying about it by sticking to the DSM
split-personality descriptions to her patient or newbie friends, is now
hiding the truth of the matter. Is this the will of her spirit
guides? Was this all, the entire DID diagnosis, in such instances,
channeled? I will bet my ass that it was, and will bet my ass that
channeling is what put it in the DSM, with exactly such intent, to
begin with.
tictoc
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You are not G*d, and you have no right whatsoever to speak judgement over
people's lives. The word of G*d says, that you will be judged, by the
measure you judge others, be careful my friend, you might be walking on
thin
ice ....
What joy do you find in trying to proof yourself right and others wrong,
should a tree not be known the fruit it bears? I rest my case ...
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anno Domini Wed, 08 Nov 2000 08:08:53 GMT, tictock
<va****trap@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> scripsit:
>When pagan/wiccans summon
>spirits, when they begin to channel spirits and become mediums of
>spirits, when these spirit guides are invited to live and operate
>within them;
This is why it's common practice to perform a bani****ng ritual before
and after any kind of working, including the assumption of godforms.
>then a situation develops where such a therapist/patient
>would sometimes insist to any newbie (possibly possessed of demons)that
>these SPLIT-PERSONALITIES, are of God, sent to heal, sent to protect,
>sent to guide; when in fact their true motive could/would be for
>***ual/physical indulgence, or even to harm.
It's equally likely that a Christian therapist would insist to a
newbie that they are possessed by demons. In neither case is there
any concrete evidence to sup****t their positions due to the serious
epistemological problems that go along with spiritual matters. In
both cases (the Wiccan saying that the split personalities are all
good as well as the Christian saying that they are all pure evil), the
therapist is committing a very grave violation of the
doctor/therapist-patient relation****p. You simply *do not* push
religious beliefs on your patients.
>Of coarse, the
>wiccan/pagan would be doing great harm, would be/IS NOW, misleading the
>newbie, would beJ/IS NOW encouraging spirit possession,
And the Christian could just as easily be seen as doing great harm,
misleading the newbie, encouraging them to believe that they are
possessed and that their psychological help should come purely from
God.
>and could be
>considered to be fulfilling a covenent with the devil to fill and
>integrate innocent naive gullable newbie bystanders.
To which any neopagan would argue that the devil is a Christian
concept, and is thus irrelevant to their beliefs.
>Again, Who is raping who?
Exactly how does any of what you've described above, even assuming
that it *is* true, resemble rape in any way, shape or form? Am I
being raped when the Jehovah's Witnesses come knocking on my door to
preach to me?
>Again, since the DSM refers to DID/MPD as split-personality
>disscociative disorder, the wiccan/pagan who is now inflamed with
>demons, encouraging same, and lying about it by sticking to the DSM
>split-personality descriptions to her patient or newbie friends, is now
>hiding the truth of the matter.
And exactly how do you know that the demonic possession theory is the
truth? What is the epistemology here?
>Was this all, the entire DID diagnosis, in such instances, channeled?
>I will bet my ass that it was, and will bet my ass that channeling is
>what put it in the DSM, with exactly such intent, to begin with.
And I could just as easily argue that DID is due to Russian mind
control satellites beaming thought signals into people's heads. You
can speculate all you like, but the fact of the matter is that it is
an untested hypothesis based on pure conjecture, without any
sup****ting evidence whatsoever.
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SteelWolf,
You recently admitted to me, publically, it's archived at deja.com,
that bani****ng never ever works. Once they're in, their in, according
to their will, not ours. Is this intentional, or are you "switching"
or something, which might explain the contrary doublemindedness?
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> There are things that can be kept secret--at least from other cor****eal
> people. There are even birds (alters), as you say, who are blind to some
aspects
> of life or forcefully blind their host humans to those aspects. Like a
> person who has a demon (or is a sociopath <alter> whatever term you
prefer)
> may completely ignore another person's thoughts and feelings and only
> be able to interpret the other's actions.
Co-consciousness murders the first. Who now lives? If people could
see the crime, the injustice, the harm, the perps, herein. The
bondage, the captivation, the chains of darkness herein. Their intent
is to indulge herein, not much else.
> Actions and overt statements
> are often all the bad little bird will let people see.
The good bird slips in to enlighten, but the bad will do anything
necessary to continue the craft, to protect his stolen property. We
question, can the bad even see the damage he has done? No sense of
morality, shame, sin, blush, or respectability. No natural effections.
The whole situation is false, for Olives The whole situation is
criminal, for who is supposed to be living, who thinks he is actually
living, but is not? I mean, first hand, I suppose, but decades pass,
and I still haven't gotten the irony through to my head. It's bad bad
bad ****.
> This can be great fun if you are acquainted with someone who has a
> demon or another personality or is blinded by their own self- absorption
> to the inner feelings of other people. Annoy them in subtle ways. Mock
> them with nuances that they are not capable of perceiving. The mean
> bird can see the nuances, all right, but it won't let its victim do so.
> And since the only way such a birdie can get at you is through its
> victim, it will get more and mroe frustrated with its own
helplessness.
I'm counting on the good birdies to persist, to bind, to enlighten
the entire house. The laws of nature, morality, and of the most high
command it, loose it. For where there is no law, there can be no
justice, and no judgement.
The average victim may harbor from 1 to 5, or even more of
these invading personalities. One personality may have perfect
vision and hearing, while another may be nearly blind or deaf.
Our own identity may be very mature and refined. Upon
"switching", the other (incoming thief) may be extremely
primitive, violent, vulgar, and\or uncouth. It is also common to
find both right and left-handed entities inside of a victim.
After "switching", even the voice and handwriting becomes
different. Even the memories can be different. The dominant
personality can exercise influence over the others, and can even
call on the others for assistance; and even to assign certain
unwanted tasks. William Milligan was the first person in the
United States to be acquitted of a major crime by reason of
multiple identity: Four counts of rape! JFK, if you've heard
of his ways, had 18 different known handwritings.
In certain abuse cases, could it be that such was the cause/case,
that such perps are/were under such influence, operating in such a sub-
conscious or zombied state of duality, switched? One certainly has
to wonder, to take into account, such phenomenon. After all, William
Milligan was acquitted by reason of Multiple Identity; which may
actually have been indwelling foul misleading spirits of twisted,
sick, and criminal tendency/indulgence. William could not be held
accountable for these crimes.
In Revelation 12:4, Satan stood before a pregnant woman who
was in labor, to devour (get into and incarnate in) her child, as
soon as it was born. In Deuteronomy 28:45; The stranger that is
within us is high over us; and we are very low. He lends unto
us. We do not lend unto him: He is the head, and we are the
tail. In 2nd Timothy 2:26; that we are taken captive by the
devil at his will. You too, may unknowingly be harboring one or
more of these invading spirits (1st Peter 5:8-11).
This "devouring" impairs the development, abilities, and
judgement of the victim; when the invading spirit takes over.
This spiritual wickedness is responsible for most sickness,
crime, deceit, greed, poverty, and despicable ***ual perversion
seen today.
They also that seek after my life (my body) lay snares for me:
and they that seek my hurt speak mischievous things, and imagine
deceits
(puppeteering lusts, jokes, and traps) all the day long. (Psalms
38:12)
For the dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked
have enclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. (Psalms
22:16)
Hide me from the secret counsel of the wicked. from the
insurrection (open rebellion) of the workers of iniquity: Who
whet their tongue like a sword, and bend their bows to shoot
their arrows, even bitter words: That they may shoot in secret at
the perfect: suddenly do they shoot at him, and fear not. They
encourage themselves in an evil matter: they commune (plan
together) of laying snares privily (secretly); they say, Who
shall see them? (Psalm 64:2-5)
Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not
ignorant of his devices. (2nd Corinthians 2:11)
The angel of the Lord encampeth round about them that fear
him, and delivereth them. (Psalms 34:7)
Thou will keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on
thee.(Isaiah 26:3)
Sit thou at my right hand, until I (God) make thine enemies
my footstool. (Psalms 110:1)
Likewise the Spirit (Holy Spirit) also helpeth our
infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought
to: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession (prays) for us with
groanings which cannot be uttered... vs. 31 For if God be for us,
who can be against us? ...vs. 36. As it is written, For thy sake
we are killed all the day long; we are counted as sheep for the
slaughter. We are more than conquerors through God. For I am
persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor
principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to
come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be
able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ
Jesus our Lord. (Romans 8:26-39)
He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from
their destructions. (Psalm 107:20)
And I will bring the blind (oppressed) by a way they knew
not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will
make darkness light before them, and not forsake them. (Isaiah
42:16)
"Thou hast enlarged my steps under me, that my feet did not
slip". (Psalms 18:36)
I have put much of this work online, that those who may need it can find
it
by doing a google search for the keyword: djsaintly. You may use any of
this
material to minister to others freely.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/voice-hearers/
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