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The greatest story never told, the trojan horse of Christianity, the 13th apostle.

by Guardian Snowpheonix <snowpheonix@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sep 27, 2007 at 04:09 AM

Luk 11:17  But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every
kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house
divided against a house falleth.

Those are the words of the Messiah Yeshua and in every bible today is
the trojan horse of the Christian church.

Gal 2:7  But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the
uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the
circumcision was unto Peter;

The 13th apostle, Paul, claimed he had, "the gospel of the
uncircumcision", but what is it?  What are the tenant of this other
gospel hidden inside of your bible?  Today we have dozens of different
denominations of Christian church's and different translations of the
same text of scriptures but why?  All of the differences between
church's that use only the Torah and the Prophets and the New
Testament can be traced to the Trojan horse the false Apostle Paul.

Whether the reader believe in 1, 2, 10 or 613 commandments from our
Creator, the differences are sourced in Paul.  Paul preached only 1
Commandment, the Messiah concluded that you can sum up the entire
Torah (5 books of Moses) in 2 Commandments, our very literal brothers
of Judaism believe 613 commandments and of course we have the 10
commandments given on Mt. Sinai.

Now some believe Paul was for the Law and some believe Paul was
against the law and quote things like:
Rom 10:4  For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every
one that believeth.
Col 2:14  Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against
us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it
to his cross;

Good for them I say.  I will not argue this point at all because where
I'm going is to the real doctrine of the "uncircumcision".  Paul was
definitely against the practice and made some very outlandish quotes
for us such as:
Php 3:2  Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the
concision.
Gal 5:2  Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised,
Christ shall profit you nothing.

Why was he so against the practice?  One of the most interesting and
telling quotes of Paul is:

1Co 6:12  All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not
expedient: all things are lawful for me, but (I will not be brought
under the power of any).
1Co 6:13  Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall
destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for fornication, but for
the Lord; and the Lord for the body.

Now keep that quote in mind as we jump to the Revelation of John:
Rev 2:1  Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; ...
Rev 2:2  I know thy works, and thy labor, and thy patience, and how
thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them
which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

Now we look into Ephesus and here we find the book,
Eph 1:1  Paul, an apostle

O.K. that's not looking to good but it must be another apostle,
right?  What else did the Messiah say?
Mat 16:18  And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon
this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not
prevail against it.

Alright, so Peter is the Rock of our church, did he say anything about
Paul to support him?
2Pe 3:15  ...even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the
wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
2Pe 3:16  ... all his epistles,...some things hard to be understood, which
they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other
Scriptures, unto their own destruction.
2Pe 3:17  ...beware lest ye also, being led away with the error of the
wicked, fall from your own steadfastness.

Error of the wicked? Led away?  Beware?  Wow. But he does call him
brother.  Oh wait,
1Pe 2:17  Honor all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the
king.
He calls everybody brother, does he say any more?  Paul isn't named
again personally but we do find one of Paul's closest allies:

1Pe 5:12  By Silvanus, a faithful brother unto you, as I suppose, I
have written briefly, exhorting, and testifying that this is the true
grace of God wherein ye stand.
1Pe 5:13  The church that is at Babylon, elected together with you,
saluteth you; and so doth Mark my son.

The church that is Babylon?  Isn't that spoken of in Revelations?
Rev 17:5  And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON
THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Wait, am I sure about Silvanus?
2Th 1:1  Paul, and Silvanus, and Timothy, unto the church of the
Thessalonians in God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ:

Wait, what other proof is there, this is the bible and he's an apostle
were talking about.. because your trying to tell me Paul is the church
of Babylon?  O.K. let's go back to Revelations, What church is next?
Smyrna, that was located just north of Ephesus and it's church is not
written about in any other scripture but it says:

Rev 2:8  And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These
things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
Rev 2:9  I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art
rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and
are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Well Paul was a Jew, right.  Let's see what Paul says:
1Co 9:20  And unto the Jews (I became as a Jew), that I might gain the
Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might
gain them that are under the law;
Act 21:37  And as Paul was to be led into the castle, he said unto the
chief captain, May I speak unto thee? Who said, Canst thou speak
Greek?
Act 21:38  Art not thou that (Egyptian), which before these days
madest an uproar, and leddest out into the wilderness four thousand
men that were murderers?
Act 22:27 And having come, the commander said to him, "Say to me, are
you a Roman?" And he said, "Yes."
 Gal 2:15  We who are (Jews by nature)
2Co 11:22  Are they Hebrews? so am I. Are they Israelites? so am I.
Are they the seed of Abraham? so am I.
Php 3:5  Circumcised the eighth day, of the (stock of Israel), of the
tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a
Pharisee;
Act 21:39  But Paul said, I am a man which am a (Jew of Tarsus), a
city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean city:

Now wait, how can he be "of the stock of Israel" and also a Roman
Pharisee from Tarsus that spoke Greek?
Act 15:23  And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The
apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which
are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia.

So they are Gentiles in Cilicia.
Act 6:9  Then there arose certain of the synagogue, which is called
the synagogue of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and
of them of Cilicia and of Asia, disputing with Stephen.

The synagogue of the Libertines? Now that's the only mention of them
in the entire scripture. Now this must have been the synagogue that
Paul was trained at.  What happened to Stephen?
Act 6:13  And set up false witnesses, which said, This man ceaseth not
to speak blasphemous words against this holy place, and the law:
Act 7:59  And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord
Jesus, receive my spirit.
Act 22:20  And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also
was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment
of them that slew him.

And here is the birth of Paul from the gentile synagogue of the
Libertines.  So he wasn't a Jew at all except, "by nature".  O.K. so
what happened next?  We all know that Saul admitted he was a murderer.
What next?

Act 8:2  And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great
lamentation over him.
Act 9:1  And Saul, yet breathing out threatenings and slaughter
against the disciples of the Lord, went unto the high priest,
Act 9:2  And desired of him letters to Damascus to the synagogues,
that if he found any of this way, whether they were men or women, he
might bring them bound unto Jerusalem.
Act 8:3  As for Saul, he made havoc of the church, entering into every
house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.

So we see that they returned Stephen to Jerusalem, to the high priest
and Paul was hired by the very same high Priest that just murdered the
Messiah, Caiaphas.
Mat 26:57  And they that had laid hold on Jesus led him away to
Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were
assembled.
Act 4:6  And Annas the high priest, and Caiaphas, and John, and
Alexander, and as many as were of the kindred of the high priest, were
gathered together at Jerusalem.

He got a commission to go kill the church of the Messiah and went out
for that infamous trip to Damascus synagogues.  What happened?

Recorded three times in the book of Acts are 3 accounts of the same
journey to Damascus.
Act 9:6  And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou
have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise, and go into the
city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.
Act 9:7  And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless,
hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
Act 9:8  And Saul arose from the earth;

Notice the men heard the voice but On the other occasion they didn't...
Act 22:9  And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were
afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.
Act 22:10  And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto
me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of
all things which are appointed for thee to do.
Act 22:11  And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being
led by the hand of them that were with me,
Instead of being told to go to "the city" he is now told go to
Damascus.

And the third time is completely different, No longer being told to
"go" somewhere" he's told on the spot.  Now I think if Jesus came to
me and stopped me on the road in a "blinding" light,  I'd remember
what he said.  But since he's at the end of his rope on lies here he
tells King Agripa that he's to be "delivered from the people and from
gentiles".  I thought he was the apostle of the gentiles.

Act 26:16  But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto
thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of
these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I
will appear unto thee;
Act 26:17  Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles,
unto whom now I send thee,
Act 26:18  To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to
light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive
forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified
by faith that is in me.

And now we have the birth of the Apostle, or is he?  What did the
Messiah say about apostles?
Luk 6:13  And when it was day, he called unto him his disciples: and
of them he chose twelve, whom also he named apostles;
Rev 21:14  And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and in
them the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

O.K. there are twelve, Judas is dead? Who's the twelfth apostle?
 Act 1:24  And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the
hearts of all men, show whether of these two thou hast chosen,
Act 1:25  That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from
which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.
Act 1:26  And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon
Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles.

O.K. that explains the book of Matthew.  He was hand picked by the
"Rock" of the Messiah's church.  The question begs does anybody except
Paul and his scribe Luke call him an apostle?

Act 15:22  Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole
church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul
and Barnabas: namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men
among the brethren:

With Paul.. not the Apostle Paul? Does that happen more? I remember
Peter said he was brother Paul but come on most of the New testament
is written by him.
1Co 9:1  Am I not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen Jesus
Christ our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord?

You mean he was questioned to be an apostle?
1Co 9:2  If I be (not an apostle unto others), yet doubtless I am to
you: for (the seal of mine apostleship are ye) in the Lord.

O.K. so YOU are the seal of his apostleship and not Peter, the rock of
the Messiah's church.
1Co 15:7  After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
All the apostles... Not Paul?
1Co 15:8  And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out
of due time.
1Co 15:9  For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be
called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

But wait, if he can meet the Son of God and not remember the story,
telling 3 different versions of the same instance, why should I
believe him?  Well, now that he is an apostle of Jesus let's see what
he says,

Rom 15:20  Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, (not where
Christ was named), lest I should build upon another man's foundation:

Wait, did he just call the Son of God, "another man".  That can't be
right, what else does he preach?

2Co 11:3  But I fear, lest by any means, (as the serpent beguiled Eve
through his subtlety), so your minds *should be corrupted (from the
simplicity that is in Christ).

>From Christ?

2Co 11:4  For if he that cometh preacheth "another Jesus", (whom we
have not preached), or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not
received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well
bear with him.

Another Jesus, you mean there is more then one?
2Co 11:5  For I suppose I was NOT a whit behind the very chiefest
apostles.
2Co 11:7  Have I committed an offense in abasing myself that ye might
be exalted, because I have preached to you the gospel of God freely?
An apostle for who then? You preached freely? You mean from the
doctrine of the synagogue of Libertines, got it.

1Co 6:11  And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but (ye are
sanctified, but ye are justified) in the name of the Lord Jesus, and
by the Spirit of (our God).
1Co 6:12  (All things are lawful unto me), but all things are not
expedient: (all things are lawful for me), but (I will not be brought
under the power of any).
1Co 6:13  Meats for the belly, and the belly for meats: but God shall
destroy both it and them. Now the body is not for (fornication, but
for the Lord); and the Lord for the body.

So your God says that all things are lawful and you are liberated but
that certainly doesn't sound like anything the Messiah preached.  O.K.
so you've come with me this far what further proof do you have of what
your saying because this all sounds to unbelievable.   Wait, what did
Revelation say ...?

Rev 2:14  But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast
there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast
a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things
sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.

O.K. well what about fornication?
1Co 5:1  (It is reported commonly) that there is fornication among
you, (and such fornication as is not so much as named among the
Gentiles), that one should have his father's wife.
1Co 5:2  (And ye are puffed up), and have not rather mourned, that he
that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.  Note:
Fornication isn't so much but reporting it...
1Co 5:3  For I verily, as absent in body, but (present in spirit),
have judged already, as though (I were present), concerning him that
hath so done this deed.
1Co 5:4  In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered
together, (and my spirit), with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
--- Now what's this about gathering together in Paul's spirit?
1Co 5:5  To deliver such a one unto Satan for the (destruction of the
flesh), that the spirit may be saved (in the day) of the Lord Jesus.

Saved in the day but not by "the Lord Jesus".. wow.. What apostle
calls for men to be delivered to Satan?

O.K. So what happened when he preached all this stuff?  First they
sent him back to Jerusalem for a trail under Jewish Laws.

Act 9:27  But (Barnabas took him, and brought him to the apostles),
and declared unto them how he had seen the Lord in the way, and that
he had spoken to him, and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in
the name of Jesus.
Act 13:50  But the Jews stirred up the devout and honorable women, and
the chief men of the city, and raised persecution against Paul and
Barnabas, and expelled them out of their coasts.
Act 15:2  When therefore (Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension
and disputation) with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas,
and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles
and elders about this question.

What happened with Barnabas?
Gal 2:13  And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch
that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.

The results of the trial?
Act 15:18  Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the
world.
Act 15:19  Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which
from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
Act 15:20  But that we write unto them, that they abstain from
pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled,
and from blood.
Act 15:21  For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach
him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Act 15:22  Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole
church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul
and Barnabas: namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men
among the brethren:
Act 15:23  And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The
apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which
are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia.

They sent escorts with them to the church's they went to and put
letters in the hands to start by teaching 4 specific teachings
included on the Sabbath.  Paul left with these escorts and they took
over the church's so Paul left them behind and continued on past
Galatia where he wrote his book.  He's angry because of what happened
at the trial and it comes out clearly in this writing. He goes where
they don't know about him and writes back to his old church:

Gal 1:18  Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter,
and abode with him fifteen days.
Gal 1:19  But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's
brother.
Gal 1:20  Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I
lie not.
Gal 1:21  Afterwards I came into the regions of Syria and Cilicia;
Gal 1:22  And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judea which
were in Christ:
Gal 1:23  But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in
times past now preacheth (the faith which once he destroyed).

Now who says that Christ destroyed the faith? But what does he say
happened at the trail?
Gal 2:11  But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the
face, because he was to be blamed.
Gal 2:13  And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch
that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
Gal 2:21  I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness
come by the law, then (Christ is dead) in vain.

Now read closely, He says, Christ is DEAD!
Gal 2:9  And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars,
perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and
Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we should go unto the
heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

Didn't he just say in chapter one he say none of the Apostles? Notice
the slam, "who seemed to be pillars".

Gal 2:10  Only they would that we should remember the poor; the same
which I also was forward to do.

Now we all know that is not what happened at that trial.  His sidekick
Luke recorded a totally different event. But he rails against the
apostles ever further:
Gal 1:6  I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you
into the grace of Christ unto (another gospel):
Gal 1:7  Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and
would pervert the gospel of Christ.

That was the Men Peter sent to take over his old churches.  Those
darn, "Jews". But here's the real teller,

Gal 1:8  But though we, or an (angel from heaven), preach (any other
gospel) unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be
accursed.
Gal 1:9  As we said before, so say I now again, (if any man preach any
other gospel) unto you than that ye have received, let him be
accursed.

So he places a curse on Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men
among the brethren: Then he goes on later and preaches against the
Messiah.


Gal 5:1  Stand fast therefore in the  (liberty wherewith Christ hath
made us free), and be not entangled again with the (yoke of bondage).

What did the Messiah preach?
Mat 11:29  Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and
lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.
Mat 11:30  For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Well, that couldn't be all he said, right?  Well according to the
scribe Luke, Peter made this statement,
Act 15:10  Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck
of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
Act 15:11  But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus
Christ we shall be saved, even as they.

When speaking of burdens, it again leads us back to Revelations 2
Rev 2:24  But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many
as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of
Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.
Rev 2:25  But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.

Which again is only mentioned.. You guessed it,
Act 16:14  And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the
city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord
opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.

So yet another place that Paul influenced with a reference to Satan.
What was Paul position on Satan? In the red letter KJV we find that
certain words were added to give context but let's take those added
words out and restore it.

Act 26:17  Delivering thee from the people, and the Gentiles, unto
whom now I send thee,
Act 26:18  To open their eyes, to turn from darkness to light, and the
(power of Satan unto God), that they may receive forgiveness of sins,
and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in
me.

457 and2532 from the3588 power1849 of Satan4567 unto1909 God,2316

So we see "Christian" apologist trying to rectify Satanic teachings.
But if this is true then this can't be the only reference right?
Let's look at all his references to Satan:

Rom 16:20  And the (God of peace) shall bruise Satan under (your feet)
shortly. The (grace of our Lord) Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.

Our Lord?  The God of Peace?  What did the Messiah teach?

Mat 10:34  Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not
to send peace, but a sword.
Mat 10:35  For I am come to set a man at variance against his father,
and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against
her mother-in-law.
Mat 10:36  And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

That's certainly doesn't sound like a "God of Peace".  So who is this
God of Peace?
Rev 6:2  And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him
had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth
conquering, and to conquer.
Rev 19:11  And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he
that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness
he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:14  And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white
horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

O.K. so that's Jesus and he makes war and he conquers.

Dan 8:25  And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper
in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace
shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of
princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

By Peace shall destroy many?  Could this be the God of Peace?  O.K.
what's next?
1Co 5:5  To deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of the
flesh, that (the spirit) may be (saved in the day) of the Lord Jesus.

Is this the "apostle" of Christ asking for men to be delivered to
Satan?  Saved in the day... wait, wouldn't an apostle want somebody
saved By Jesus Christ?  The Spirit, not His spirit.  Strange but what
else...

1Co 7:5  Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a
time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come
together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

O.K. My English teacher would rip this apart for the double negatives.
Defraud, is defined to cheat. So don't cheat except it be with consent
for a time, that Satan doesn't tempt you for free or illegal
indulgence of lust. I guess he can't tempt you if your already
practicing it huh.  That just doesn't sound like an apostle of Jesus
Christ.  Must be something better than this, what's next:

2Co 2:10  To whom ye forgive any thing, (I forgive) also: for if (I
forgave) any thing, to whom (I forgave it), for your sakes (forgave I
it) in the person of Christ;
2Co 2:11  Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not
ignorant of his devices.

Wait, In the person of Christ?  Did he just say over and over again
that he had power to forgive sins?  Well, he is an apostle but what
does the Messiah say?

Mar 2:10  But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth
to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)

What's next?
2Co 11:14  And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an
angel of light.
2Co 11:15  Therefore it is no great thing if (his ministers also be
transformed as the ministers of righteousness); whose end shall be
(according to their works).

Well from what I've seen so far, I'd have to agree with you Paul, I
thought you were a minister of righteousness too.

2Co 12:7  And lest (I should be exalted above measure) through the
abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a bellow in the
flesh,( the messenger of Satan) to buffet me, lest (I should be
exalted above measure).
2Co 12:8  For this thing (I besought the Lord) thrice, that it might
depart (from me).  Note: Not Jesus Christ
2Co 12:9  And (he said) unto me, (My grace is sufficient for thee):
for (my strength is made perfect) in weakness. Most gladly therefore
will (I rather glory) in my infirmities, that (the power of Christ may
rest upon me).  So again the power of Christ is not for Christ but for
"me".
2Co 12:10  Therefore (I take pleasure in infirmities), in reproaches,
in necessities, in persecutions, (in distresses for Christ's sake):
for when (I am) weak, then (am I strong).
2Co 12:11  (I am) become a fool in glorying; (ye have compelled me):
for (I ought to have been commended of you): (for in nothing am I
behind the very chiefest apostles), though I be nothing.

So here we see Paul claiming authority over Peter, humbly of course.
Why?
2Co 12:16  But be it so, I did not burden you: nevertheless, being
crafty, I caught you with guile.

That's stuff sounds just like a prophesy, let's see:
Isa 14:12  How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the
morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the
nations!
Isa 14:13  For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into
heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also
upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isa 14:14  I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be
like the most High.
Isa 14:15  Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the
pit.
Isa 14:16  They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and
consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble,
that did shake kingdoms;
Isa 14:17  That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the
cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

Lucifer is a man?  The only time this name is mentioned in the bible.
Now many have confused this name with Satan.
Rev 20:2  And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is
the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

That doesn't sound like a man, so what else does it say about this man
in Isaiah 14?
Isa 14:22  For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts,
and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew,
saith the LORD.

Now there goes that Babylon thing again.. what else?
Isa 14:25  That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my
mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off
them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.

Assyrian?  Wait,
Act 21:39  But Paul said, I am a man which am a (Jew of Tarsus), a
city in Cilicia

Cilicia was in Assyria back in the day.  What's this about his yoke
depart from off them?  Prisoners. Could it be just like in Exodus 20?
Exo 20:2  I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the
land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

What next?
Isa 14:26  This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth:
and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations.

Now how did this hand stretch out upon ALL the nations of the earth?
Could it be that his work is in the number 1 selling book of all time?

But we read that clearly he's a man.
This is getting weird but come on, what else?
1Ti 1:20  Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered
unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.
2Ti 2:17  And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is
Hymenaeus and Philetus;

Now this is the apostle of Jesus Christ delivering people to Satan,
weird.
2Th 2:9  Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all
power and signs and lying wonders,
1Th 2:18  Wherefore we would have come unto you, even I Paul, once and
again; but Satan hindered us.

1Co 8:5  For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven
or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

Many gods?  Aren't apostles suppose to teach One God.
Eph 2:2  Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of
this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, (the
spirit that now worketh) in the children of disobedience:

..  O.K.  That's just strange, back to Paul's adventures.

What happened after he went to the next cities when his first church's
were taken over?
First the churches we find this report..

Act 19:26  Moreover ye see and hear, that not alone at Ephesus, but
almost throughout all Asia, this Paul hath persuaded and turned away
much people, saying that they be no gods, which are made with hands:

Turned away?...
2Ti 1:15  This thou knowest, that all they which are in Asia be turned
away from me; of whom are Phygellus and Hermogenes.

Really? So what do you think of them Paul?
2Ti 3:1  This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall
come.
2Ti 3:2  For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous,
boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful,
unholy,
2Ti 3:3  Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers,
incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
2Ti 3:4  Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than
lovers of God;
2Ti 3:5  Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof:
from such turn away.
2Ti 3:6  For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead
captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

Yeah, nasty ole Gentiles.. So what next Paul?

2Co 11:8  I robbed other churches, taking wages of them, to do you
service.

That sound innocent but.. wait,

Joh 10:1  Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the
door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a
thief and a robber.

Did he really rob churches? That's what the men of Ephesus said.  Is
that why they rejected his doctrine?
Act 19:37  For ye have brought hither these men, which are neither
robbers of churches, nor yet blasphemers of your goddess.

But wait, they worshiped Diana, didn't they?
Act 21:27  And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which
were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the
people, and laid hands on him,
Act 21:28  Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that
teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this
place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath
polluted this holy place.

Jews of Asia?  These couldn't be the same ones..
Act 21:29  (For they had seen before with him in the city Trophimus an
Ephesian, whom they supposed that Paul had brought into the temple.)

O.K. then who were they men of Ephesian?  What were there names?
Act 19:24  For a certain man named Demetrius, a silversmith, which
made silver shrines for Diana, brought no small gain unto the
craftsmen;
Act 19:26  Moreover ye see and hear, that not alone at Ephesus, but
almost throughout all Asia, this Paul hath persuaded and turned away
much people, saying that they be no gods, which are made with hands:

Demetrius, a silversmith.
Act 19:38  Wherefore if Demetrius, and the craftsmen which are with
him, have a matter against any man, the law is open, and there are
deputies: let them implead one another.

But still, he was a bad guy because he made statues of Diana.. right?
It was a lie that he brought charges of church robbing against Paul.
Right?
3Jn 1:11  Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is
good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not
seen God.
3Jn 1:12  Demetrius hath good report of all men, and of the truth
itself: yea, and we also bear record; and ye know that our record is
true.

Wow, here we see the real Apostle in his shortest letter naming a man
named Demetrius but this can't be the same one,  Right?
Well, who was the letter written to that they needed to attest to the
good standing of Demetrius?
3Jn 1:1  The elder unto the well-beloved Gaius, whom I love in the
truth.

O.K. then who was Gaius?
Act 19:28  And when they heard these sayings, they were full of wrath,
and cried out, saying, Great is Diana of the Ephesians.
Act 19:29  And the whole city was filled with confusion: and having
caught Gaius and Aristarchus, men of Macedonia, Paul's companions in
travel, they rushed with one accord into the theater.
Act 19:35  And when the town clerk had appeased the people, he said,
Ye men of Ephesus, what man is there that knoweth not how that the
city of the Ephesians is a worshiper of the great goddess Diana, and
of the image which fell down from Jupiter?

So we see that Gaius was a leader in Ephesus that appeased the town.
What happened next? The second trial.
Why was he brought to trial?
Act 21:21  And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the
Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they
ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the
customs.

While in the trial he tells a lie and causes an uproar.

Act 23:6 Now Sha'ul, perceiving that one part were Sadducees and the
other Pharisees, cried out in the council, "Men, brothers, I am a
Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee, I am being judged concerning the
expectation and resurrection of the dead!"

The result was Romans dragging him out.
Act 23:10 And a great dissension having come, the commander, fearing
lest Sha'ul would be pulled to pieces by them, commanded the body of
soldiers to go down and seize him from their midst, and bring him into
the barracks.

Why, just before the trial
Act 22:29 Then at once those who were about to examine him withdrew
from him. And the commander was also afraid after he found out that he
was a Roman, and because he had bound him.

So now the fact that he's working for the high priest comes out and
the Roman's protect him.  He goes out on his third missionary journey
where he preaches this,

1Co 6:1  Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law
before the unjust, and not before the saints?
1Co 6:7  Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye
go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye
not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?

In the book of Acts He is asked if he will go before Jerusalem to be
judged in the temple.  Did he practice what he preached?  Note: At the
time, Nero was Caesar.

Act 25:9  But Festus, willing to do the Jews a pleasure, answered
Paul, and said, Wilt thou go up to Jerusalem, and there be judged of
these things before me?
Act 25:10  Then said Paul, I stand at Caesar's judgment seat, where I
ought to be judged: to the Jews have I done no wrong, as thou very
well knowest.

What happened to his earlier account?  He said,
Act 21:13  Then Paul answered, What mean ye to weep and to break mine
heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at
Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.

Some might say this was a smart move but by his own actions we find he
pays the price for telling lies.
Act 26:32  Then said Agrippa unto Festus, This man might have been set
at liberty, if he had not appealed unto Caesar.



2Co 7:8  For though I made you sorry with a letter, I do not repent,
 though I did repent: for I perceive that the same epistle hath made
you sorry, though it were but for a season.

We find out that Gaius is now hosting Paul and Tertius in Corinth,
near Sparta, who goes on to right the book of Romans.

1Co 1:14  I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and
Gaius;

Rom 16:22  I Tertius, who wrote this epistle, salute you in the Lord.
Rom 16:23  Gaius mine host, and of the whole church, saluteth you.
Erastus the chamberlain of the city saluteth you, and Quartus a
brother.
2Ti 4:20  Erastus abode at Corinth: but Trophimus have I left at
Miletum sick.

Who was Trophimus?
Act 21:29  (For they had seen before with him in the city Trophimus an
Ephesian, whom they supposed that Paul had brought into the temple.)

You suppose?
1Ti 1:15  This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation,
that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am
chief.

In Summery.  I think Paul was a intelligent man and I think he
believed a lot of the things he preached from that synagogue of the
Libertines.  He used that theology to inject his own into Christianity
but the bottom line is that what he taught and what the Messiah
HaMashiach Yeshua taught were completely different.  Did Paul do a
good work?  Yes but not intentionally.  At times Paul was channeling
Satan himself and it becomes obvious but then other rare times he
seemed to be truly inspired.  (Eph 6, 1 Cor 13) He believed what he
was teaching and because of his Romanized Christianity, the bible
survived and lives were changed.  Men came to the truth and found
Elohim the Rock of all, creator of all things in heaven and on earth.
The job of modern scholars and pastor is to reject the false teachings
of Paul altogether.  As the very insightful Rock of the Church Peter
taught,

Act 15:19  Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which
from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
Act 15:20  But that we write unto them, that they abstain from
pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled,
and from blood.
Act 15:21  For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach
him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
Act 15:22  Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole
church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul
and Barnabas: namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men
among the brethren:
Act 15:23  And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The
apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which
are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia.




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The greatest story never told, the trojan horse of Christianity,
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