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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Christ" <christianlife@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 12:42 AM
> Subject: Why doeth thee fighteth for nothing?
>
>
>> When I look at all these Christian newsgroups one can only agree with
the
>> fact that modern Christianity is an abomination.
>>
>> Surely the newsgroups are the epitome of the modern church.
>>
>> Only in the local church you can't be as candid with one another as you
> can
>> behind a computer screen. Nevertheless, yes, its just the same in the
> local
>> so called in the name of Jesus gathering as it is in these Christian
>> newsgroups.
>>
>> There is no real love underneath in all the Churches I have attended in
> the
>> last 24 years. But that is okay, the Lord will eventually raise up the
>> standard against these 'Many will say they come in My name and I will
say
>> that I never knew them' yuppies of power and wealth.
>>
>> Leer jets, suits, mansions, cars, buildings, prestige, power,
>> title...unbelievable.
>>
>> And tithe buddy, tithe to save your soul, when it is of the
>> law...unbelievable.
>>
>> As they say, hook, line and sinker. What a sad sad thing it is to see
so
>> many lost and aching people being used and abused by these charlatans
of
>> Jesus name. Maybe one day the Lord will grant me the favour to be used
>> to
>> help these people escape; well, some of them at least.
>>
>>
>> Mike
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> My Sons are born of Me
>> They are My Spirit.
>> In them is no darkness at all.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> I went through an interesting experience these past few years God kind
of
> leading me through the wilderness.
>
> When it began I remember being so bitterly angry at preachers because it
> sounded like they were telling us 'do this' and ' do that'
> and they sounded like they were all so perfect and every mistake was
> wayyyy
> in the past.
>
> I perceived their wor****p and prayers to be wooden, their knowledge of
God
> some antique they kept on a shelf collecting dust.
>
> Now I hear differently, there are different spirits ya? Now I hear them
> being used as broken bread and really they are speaking
> from what is going on contem****arily. When they talk about success and
> victory ,of disappointment and failure,or stress, for example they are
> reaching from the manna they have been given. I hear it in the truth
> ringing in the voice as they speak. Now I realize that God works on
them
> even as He works on me---the marvel is that we truly do seem to be one
> body
> where you find that Christ is being raised up. It is amazing how
relevant
> and personal the weekly sermons seem to be, and that is just as it
should
> be.
>
> It is just different spirits that pass through that changes what I will
> literally call the hearing of it not only selective hearing but the
spirit
> of it. This is more than a mood this is God working on your heart,
burning
> away the dark side and bringing you into light.
>
> It is folly to regard your opinion as just 'your problem', however in
some
> ****tion it is your responsibility. It is dreadfully easy to put down
> modern
> Christianity and Christians as not living up to your standard---but what
> if
> God is working through them what He wants to work out in you?
>
> I went to a church close by when I just came out of the wilderness,
didn't
> go back to my old one right away. It was an Anglican church. When they
> said the responsive part 'Christ is risen He has risen indeed!' it
> sounded
> like a lie. The people were
> nice enough but they really didn't read the Bible, it wasn't really a
> Bible
> reading church , they have been here for I dunno how long and have never
> had
> Bible studies. I left and wrote a note on how disappointed I was in the
> experience---they had nothing, nothing at all to welcome newcomers and
it
> was pretty much up to you to make introductions.
>
> Why do I emphasize the Bible and think it is im****tant to be a Bible
based
> church? Because God uses the Bible to speak directly to us and let us
> know
> what He is pleased with and not so pleased with and what we should do in
> our
> lives to follow the will of God. It is much more precarious---- indeed
it
> can be downright dangerous to just get those impressions from the world
> about us--better to at least confirm it with the Word of God.
>
> Well..
>
> So God led me away from there and back to my old church, and they do
have
> fellow****p. Here is the caveat, the big catch as it were
> you have to join and participate.In a fellow****p group in the church we
> can
> share in the everyday experiences we have and that I find is a real
> sup****t
> and boon. Also I have met some truly precious people there, precious
> enough
> to say I love them.
>
> I realized that I went to that other church, the Anglican church because
I
> was in a certain frame of mind. At that time I really wanted people to
> keep
> their distance---and I selected the appropriate place for it.
>
> As I wrote the letter to the pastor expressing my disappointment , I
felt
> God was guiding my hand to tell me how He was disappointed in me. It
was
> that whole judge not lest ye be judged thing for what measure I was
> judging
> them God was letting me know He was judging me.
>
> So, in summary, a couple of things to consider ----(1) see if you can
> hear
> that the pastor is being used as bread broken out to feed the
> multitude---he's not just issuing dictums, in some measure he takes a
risk
> by baring his soul.
>
> As for the prosperity of preachers, for every example of wealth I could
> probably find 100 examples, maybe more, where pastors are living on the
> provision of God and it is day to day. Not wealthy, not even
comfortable,
> not knowing what tomorrow will bring, and a whole congregation depending
> on
> them to give THEM words of encouragement and sup****t.
>
> (2) The second thing is to consider God may be talking to you through
your
> own hand, the things you say to others about others may be something you
> yourself need to hear.
>
> After 24 years, to be saying the same things and to not have had a
change
> within yourself that is, in part, marked by your speech ---well perhaps
it
> is time to think about what you have been saying in the light of asking
> the
> following question---am I growing and maturing in Christ?
>
> Its in your sig file --'in them is no darkness'---but the eye is the
lamp
> to
> the body and that eye is perceiving darkness in that body.
>
> You cannot say, without being I guess ironic, or maybe even hypocritical
> in
> you is 'no darkness' when your eyes see so much darkness.
>
> ( and yes I did just read that to see if I needed to heed it myself)
That's pretty good Swishy. You obviously took the time.
However, my friend, trust me, there is no compromise.
And that is what bothers me about your good intended and interesting
reply.
If you are as sincere as you make out, then look for compromise in your
letter. I promise you, you will find it...if you really look.
Mike
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My Sons are born of Me
They are My Spirit.
In them is no darkness at all.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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