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Re: Where Calvinism Leads

by Wings of a Dove <noahdove7@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 29, 2008 at 08:01 PM

God can do what he likes but He cannot violate His own moral
character. The God of the Bible is just and good

But Calvin's view of God is both good and evil it seems.



On Feb 29, 7:42=A0pm, "James" <anonymous> wrote:
> "Wings of a Dove" <noahdo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message:
>
> >This makes
> >God the author of everything evil, and the most wicked sinner of all.
> > Some Calvinists actually admit this, and seek to defend it from
> > Scripture. If ultimately God sovereignly is in control of everything,
> > and if free will of man, angels, or even Satan, is ultimately under
> > the control of God, then the responsibility for all wickedness and
> > evil must be placed at the feet of God Himself.
>
> You seem to have a problem with God doing as He pleases with His
creation?=

>
> Isa. 45:5-7 "I am Jehovah, and there is none else; besides me there is
no
> God. I will gird you, though you have not known me; that they may know
fro=
m
> the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none besides me:
I=

> am Jehovah, and there is none else. I form the light, and create
darkness;=
 I
> make peace, and CREATE EVIL. I am Jehovah, who does all these things"
> (emphasis mine).
>
> Josh 23:15 =A0"But just as every good promise of the LORD your God has
com=
e
> true, so the LORD will bring on you all the evil he has threatened,
until =
he
> has destroyed you from this good land he has given you."
>
> Judg 9:23 =A0"God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the citizens
o=
f
> Shechem, who acted treacherously against Abimelech."
>
> 1 Sam 18:10 =A0"The next day an evil spirit from God came forcefully
upon
> Saul..."
>
> Rom 9:18-20 =A0"Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy,
an=
d he
> hardens whom he wants to harden. One of you will say to me: "Then why
does=

> God still blame us? For who resists his will?" But who are you, O man,
to
> talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, 'Why
did=

> you make me like this?'"
>
> Eph 1:11 =A0"In him we were also chosen, having been predestined
according=
 to
> the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose
of=

> his will..."
>
> Yes, everything, according to His will....NOT yours or mine.
>
> =A0-james
 




 4 Posts in Topic:
Where Calvinism Leads
Wings of a Dove <noahd  2008-02-28 23:31:13 
Re: Where Calvinism Leads
"James" <ano  2008-02-29 22:42:02 
Re: Where Calvinism Leads
"James" <ano  2008-03-01 14:28:25 
Re: Where Calvinism Leads
Wings of a Dove <noahd  2008-02-29 20:01:20 

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