Re: The Second Coming Of Jesus Christ

On May 17, 9:04 am, monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> rogue wrote:
> > On May 17, 8:46 am, monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> rogue wrote:
> >> > On May 16, 5:17 pm, monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >> rogue wrote:
> >> >> > On May 15, 11:58 pm, monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >> >> rogue wrote:
> >> >> >> > On May 14, 10:12 pm, monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> rogue wrote:
> >> >> >> >> > On May 10, 12:32 pm, "Carl" <sai...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> The title of P.G. Mathew's sermon makes the topic quite
clear
> >> >> >> >> >> concerning Jesus' second coming sometime in the future
and
> >> >> >> >> >> how glorious it shall be.
>
> >> >> >> >> > JERRY
> >> >> >> >> > Unfortunately, Carl, the text of the bible, and
particularly
> >> >> >> >> > Jesus himself, was quite clear that this event was
supposed to
> >> >> >> >> > happen during
> >> >> >> >> > the lifetimes of the disciples.  I point you especially to
> >> >> >> >> > Matthew chapter 24.
>
> >> >> >> >> How do you know that the event didn't happen to anyone?
>
> >> >> >> > JERRY
> >> >> >> > Check it out.
>
> >> >> >> > Matt 24:3  And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the
disciples
> >> >> >> > came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these
things
> >> >> >> > be? AND WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN OF THY COMING, AND OF THE END
OF
> >> >> >> > THE WORLD?
>
> >> >> >> > Jesus tells them of all the signs to come and then tells
them:
>
> >> >> >> > Matt 24:34  Verily I say unto you, THIS GENERATION SHALL NOT
> >> >> >> > PASS, TILL ALL THESE THINGS BE FULFILLED.
>
> >> >> >> > So, Jesus is asked when he is coming back AND THE END OF THE
> >> >> >> > WORLD. He tells them it will happen before the current
generation
> >> >> >> > has passed, in other words, before the disciples have all
died.
>
> >> >> >> > Now, look around and look V-e-e-r-r-y-y closely.
>
> >> >> >> > Did the world end?
>
> >> >> >> > Check out Matthew chapter 16.
>
> >> >> >> > 16:27  For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his
Father
> >> >> >> > with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according
to
> >> >> >> > his works. 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some
standing
> >> >> >> > here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son
of
> >> >> >> > man coming in his kingdom.
>
> >> >> >> > Verse 27 tells that Jesus will return and come in the Glory
of
> >> >> >> > his Father WITH HIS ANGELS and then he shall REWARD EVERY MAN
> >> >> >> > ACCORDING TO
> >> >> >> > HIS WORKS.  (sounds like Judgment Day to me)
> >> >> >> > Verse 28 tells us "there be some standing here, WHICH SHALL
NOT
> >> >> >> > TASTE OF DEATH, TILL THEY SEE THE SON OF MAN COMING IN HIS
> >> >> >> > KINGDOM.
>
> >> >> >> > Those are just some of the verses.  The failed parousia is
one of
> >> >> >> > the best do***ented failings of the bible to be true.
>
> >> >> >> > Did that happen to anyone?  Was EVERY MAN rewarded according
to
> >> >> >> > his
> >> >> >> > works?  It was predicted duirng the lifetimes of the
disciples.
>
> >> >> >> If you learn to be gratful for everything,
> >> >> >> the world would not be evil anymore.
>
> >> >> >> If you find the Kingdom of God in you,
> >> >> >> that would be the End of the World as we know it.
>
> >> >> >> Hard to believe, isn't it?
>
> >> >> > JERRY
> >> >> > What's hard to believe is that you are trying to pass off that
lame-
> >> >> > ass statement as a rebuttal.  Are you saying that there will be
no
> >> >> > Second Coming, no Judgment Day, that the book of Revelation is
just
> >> >> > clown-ravings of some superstitious moron?  If you are, I won't
> >> >> > disagree with you.  If, on the other hand, you agree that
Christians
> >> >> > are waiting for the return of Jesus for the comeuppance of the
> >> >> > sinners and the "Return of the King," then I point you to the
verses
> >> >> > I show, that indicate he was supposed to return nearly 2000
years
> >> >> > ago.
>
> >> >> God works in mysterious ways.
> >> >> For some, Jesus Christ has come again alreay.
>
> >> > There is that famed theist reading comprehension problem again.
> >> > Please go back and re-read Matthew 24-3 and tell me what you
missed.
>
> >> >> The Kingdom of God is within you.
> >> >> For others He is coming again
> >> >> and again here and now.
>
> >> > Sounds messy.  He should use a Kleenex.
>
> >> >> He will also come very soon.
>
> >> > Or a plastic cup.
>
> >> >> God is prior to time and space.
> >> >> Nothing is impossible with God.
>
> >> > Then why couldn't he have his agent, King Nebs, take the island
city
> >> > of Tyre as he had his prophet foretell in Ezekiel chapter 26?
>
> >> >> God might exist in five or more dimensions.
>
> >> > Or only in your mind.
>
> >> >> Do you love your enemies yet?
>
> >> > I have no enemies.  That's for the theists who want to see their
> >> > enemies/detractors burn in hell.
>
> >> > And, as I hate dealing with your headers, I won't be responding to
any
> >> > more of your posts.  You are more trouble than you are worth.
>
> >> You really should pick the main newsgroup
> >> and set the followup-to header to it.
>
> >> --
> >> monkfish
> >> * Kindly note that the followup-to header is
> >> set to alt.christnet.theology.
>
> > JERRY
> > Not acceptable.  I read one newsgroup but the person to whom I'm
> > responding my be posting from a different newsgroup.  Doing what you
> > are doing makes it difficult for me to ensure that my posts are read
> > by the people I want them read.
>
> > Therefore, this is my last post to you until you change your headers.
>
> Is there any way you can pick just three newsgroups?
>
> --
> monkfish
> * Kindly note that the followup-to header is not set.

If I wanted to only read/respond to three newsgroups, that might work,
but I read and sometimes respond to several others (though lately I
just read and post in 2-3).  I like the "fire and forget" method.