On May 16, 6:25 pm, monkfish <monkfish@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> rogue wrote:
> > On May 15, 3:24 pm, Pastor Dave <ananias917_@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 15 May 2008 10:56:04 +0100, Therion Ware
> >> <autodel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> spake thusly:
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> >> >On Thu, 15 May 2008 02:33:45 -0700 (PDT), rogue
<rogue...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> >> >wrote:
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> >> >>On May 15, 1:24 pm, Therion Ware <autodel...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:
> >> >>> On Wed, 14 May 2008 23:22:14 -0700 (PDT), rogue
> >> >>> <rogue...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> >> >>> >On May 15, 9:57 am, "Carl" <sai...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >>> >> Noted evangelist Billy Sunday preached this encouraging and
> >> >>> >> uplifting sermon on the second coming of Jesus Christ. A
> >> >>> >> triumphant return that the Bible foretells will come in the
future
> >> >>> >> at a time no one knows.
>
> >> >>> >JERRY
> >> >>> >Actually, Carl, that's a claim made by Christians that you can't
> >> >>> >sup****t in the text. Jesus tells you a deadline by which he
will
> >> >>> >return. You find it in Matthew chapter 24 after the disciples
ask
> >> >>> >for the signs of the Second Coming.
>
> >> >>> >24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came
> >> >>> >unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be?
and
> >> >>> >what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the
world?
>
> >> >>> >Jesus gives them all kinds of signs to watch for and then tells
them
> >> >>> >this:
>
> >> >>> >24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till
> >> >>> >all these things be fulfilled.
>
> >> >>> >Jesus was clearly saying to his disciples: I'm coming back
while
> >> >>> >you
> >> >>> >guys are still alive. Look for it and expect it.
>
> >> >>> >And then he didn't show. Given that he didn't show it's a
pretty
> >> >>> >safe bet that the story isn't true and that he's not coming
back.
>
> >> >>> Actually, I was discussing this with the wandering jew and
Longinus
> >> >>> over dinner last week....
>
> >> >>> That asise, I wonder if he'll make a substantive reply to your
> >> >>> question.
>
> >> >>JERRY
> >> >>Not unless he can find a sermon someone else wrote that he can copy
> >> >>and paste.
>
> >> >Indeed.
>
> >> He showed. Within the same generation.
>
> >> --
> > JERRY
> > Fraid not, Dave. The question asked was when Jesus would return and
> > the end of the world.
>
> > Check it out. I'm just looked around and the world is still here.
>
> Do you think the world will end eventually?
JERRY
Not biblically. In several billion years the earth may fall into the
sun, or we may be hit by a passing comet or huge asteroid that
destroys all life, but the events of the book of Revelation are just
the rants of fevered theist minds, like the fevered theists that post
in Usenet. I consider Revelation to be written by the same kind of
cranks as Glenn, who posts his End Times nonsense all the time, or
OBVES (who may also be Glenn but I've done no check of headers or IPs)
But the verses tell us that the END was supposed to happen during the
lifetimes of the disciples. It didn't happen, so the bible isn't true.
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